Why bitcoiners are not friendly physical?

[famososMuertos]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

lol! sorry...

Seriously, very seriously, don't take the laughs badly, in fact they were those social laughs, which maybe as it's our first time you might not like them.
Anyway!  I find their context somewhat childish and in fact strange in the very experience of what it demands.

Again we are all 18+, so do we have to teach the basic patterns of sociability, safety and teaching how to meet a stranger?,  etc?, etc.? or the icing on the cake, why don't I have friends in real life from the forum?

I mean, it's not that meeting is bad, in fact it happens, around there, there are several meetings a year, in fact the conference at Miami is coming, and many bitcoiners around the world meet, in the case of the forum, itself it is known that some users They have had the opportunity to meet, due to different circumstances, for purely bitcoin issues and others for the simple fact that the friendship/sympathy created in the forum transcended.

On the other hand, for the common ideas that bring us to the bitcointalk forum, which is bitcoin, I believe that a virtual plan is totally efficient, in fact more efficient than meeting in the flesh.

[mendace]

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Most introvert person doesn't like to talk anything especially if they don't know the person so maybe others think that they are not friendly because they are not talking and people have misconceptions about it. But for sure if you know those people they can talk once they trust you that you don't want to do any harm to them. But even if not an introvert for sure they also aware about the risk talking crypto things in public so I guess many people remain silent about it and make all of this discussion done privately especially on online because we know many people know already about crypto and if they know the people has a lot of holdings especially if they use their phone as their wallets then maybe they will be in danger with that scene.

So understand each other is the key so that you will not create any problem to other bitcoin user since investments is confidential matter.

Yes, I understand your point. It's true that introverted individuals may be less likely to engage in conversation, especially with strangers, and this can sometimes lead to misconceptions about their personality. When it comes to discussing cryptocurrency, it's understandable that people may be cautious, as the value of these assets can be substantial and the topic is still relatively new and complex. There is also the concern about privacy and security, as many individuals use their phones to store their cryptocurrencies, which could make them vulnerable to theft or hacking.

It's important to respect each person's comfort level and decision to share information about their investments, whether it's related to cryptocurrency or any other asset. Encouraging trust and understanding between individuals, as you mentioned, can help facilitate open and honest conversations about these topics, while also ensuring the privacy and security of each person's investments. Ultimately, clear communication and mutual respect are key to fostering a positive and productive discussion about cryptocurrency or any other topic.

[qwertyup23]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I think it is not about being afraid on seeing each other physically, but it is mostly on the part of privacy. Remember that some members here in this forum have tons of BTC at their disposal to the point that it might actually threatened their own personal safety. In a way, they are concerning and focusing on their self-preservation which is why some prefer to discuss matters online.

Though this may be the case, I do think that majority of the members also are willing to discuss and meet people physically. But you have to choose the right crowd and look for these people in the process.

[Vaskiy]

Being a bitcoiner is a pride, but people never want the same to be exposed for different reasons. Just my personal experience, I'm from a country where cryptocurrency isn't regulated and the government haven't revealed any official announcement on usage. Just the taxation on cryptocurrency have made people to consider it as legal and use it. In such situation exposing myself as a cryptocurrency user could direct me towards issues if someone is with vengeance with me.

[Mr.right85]

I think it is not about being afraid on seeing each other physically, but it is mostly on the part of privacy. Remember that some members here in this forum have tons of BTC at their disposal to the point that it might actually threatened their own personal safety. In a way, they are concerning and focusing on their self-preservation which is why some prefer to discuss matters online.

The fact that, bitcoin transactions are traceable raises some concerns. Once a wallet is tied to a person, just as we have it on the address that is linked to our accounts as used in our signatures, it becomes a signature make for you and one can easily assign what is contained in the address and where ever the coin is transfered to to be yours. They might not care if the receiver address is actually that of a buyer but, would be looked at to be yours and that could give someone the wrong idea to do you harm should you seem to have done much.

Meeting physically has never been a must and shouldn't be. In fact, it's one of the many privileges bitcoin enthusiast enjoy and should be respected. A lot has been archived from this work space and a lot more could be archived.

Do well yo use what you have now first before wanting to see someone that isn't sure they want to see you.

[Oilacris]

Being a bitcoiner is a pride, but people never want the same to be exposed for different reasons. Just my personal experience, I'm from a country where cryptocurrency isn't regulated and the government haven't revealed any official announcement on usage. Just the taxation on cryptocurrency have made people to consider it as legal and use it. In such situation exposing myself as a cryptocurrency user could direct me towards issues if someone is with vengeance with me.

We love and became a supporter of bitcoin not only into its earning opportunity but also it does possess that anonymity and decentralized feature on which we do really see this as one of the reasons

on why we are involving with this thing but it doesnt always mean that every believer would really be have that confidence on showing up themselves face to face considering that we do know on what are
the impose or possible risk that might lie ahead and waiting considering that when it comes to money then you are sure no safety.

This is why we a re really that paranoid on trying to make yourself that known as a bitcoiner on physical appearances or what but here on online then
we wont really be having doubts.

[Qiubell5]

not everyone is like that. Maybe there really are people who like to have discussions online, and there are also those who have discussions physically with each other. all human nature is diverse. so naturally, there are people like that.

[prithibiahmed]

It's a generalization to say that all bitcoiners are not friendly in person, as people's personalities and behavior can vary greatly regardless of their beliefs or interests. However, some individuals within the bitcoin community may have a strong belief in privacy and decentralization, which can sometimes translate into a reluctance to engage in face-to-face interactions. Additionally, the online community surrounding bitcoin can be quite vibrant, which may lead some individuals to feel more comfortable expressing themselves in a digital environment rather than in person.

That being said, it's important to remember that these are just general trends and there are many individuals within the bitcoin community who are friendly and approachable in person. Additionally, the community is diverse and encompasses a wide range of beliefs, so it's not accurate to make sweeping generalizations about all bitcoiners.

[Picaflor]

In a world where not everyone owns bitcoin yet, you don't want others to know that you do.

When 90% of the world owns BTC, it will be safer to come out. But it's probably better never to let people know how early you got in, because that's correlated to the size of your bag. It's also not a good idea to show people the level of your understanding of Bitcoin, because a similar correlation exists there too (although the short-term volatility means risk tolerance is also a major factor).

When I was trying to withdraw a large amount of cash from a bank, the cashier asked me what it was for and wanted to call the police, because she thought I was being extorted from. (As an aside, I had to make up a story, because I'm not the kind of person that truthfully answers questions of that sort).

Bitcoin is permissionless, so if someone kidnaps you and announces they're going to cut your fingers one by one until you give up your coins, there is no cashier to be alerted by coins leaving your wallet.
That's why you don't want anyone other than yourself to know how much BTC you own, and practice good hygiene, e.g. use passphrases, which can give you plausible deniability as long as your UTXO's remain undoxxed.

[Bitstar_coin]

I think this is very correct, although I have not come across many bitcoiners except from close pals which I know very closely. They are always friendly and we usually share ideas with each concerning the crypto space.
So, I don't know how many bitcoiners you have the privilege to meet, I doubt what you have said is the case.

[siniminomorocomunisakito]

Like you and me, it's hard for strangers to strike up a casual conversation about their business. If you're meeting someone for the first time, you may not want to reveal your work until the conversation is over, especially if it's a contentious business. Some people may think it is immoral or illegal. For this reason, Bitcoiners are more comfortable discussing business matters online, where they can remain anonymous.

If this is the case as you said above, then that's a little concerning. For something that thrives on peer-to-peer interactions, it sounds like human contact should be pretty high on the priority list. But it all depends on your definition of "success". As we said before: Bitcoin is complicated, and success looks different for everyone involved.

[jokers10]

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Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

They are not, but they don't want to be cross identified. It is okay if you'll talk to me about bitcoin somewhere else, but I prefer you not to know that I have an account here. The idea of anonymity implemented in bitcoin is important: it is about safety, it is about security. I don't want others to know if I have a couple of satoshis until we know that about each and every. And many in here respect that right on anonymity: some can visit offline meetings but not asking to say your online nicknames.

[ilovealtcoins]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

This is what I think, I also don't want to talk about investing bitcoin in public, not because of shame but because I like privacy, I invest in bitcoin out of profit then privacy is my concern. I don't want people to know what property I have, what job I do, I don't like to be the subject of other people's gossip. And one more thing, I don't like bragging.

[sad-error]

I don't think it's true that bitcoiners don't like meeting face to face. There are weekly meetups (of ~10-20 people) in the city I live in - however from my personal experience with these, it's just a giant circlejerk, there's no added value from those conversations. Every meaningful discussion happens online, imho.

[KennyR]

I think this is very correct, although I have not come across many bitcoiners except from close pals which I know very closely. They are always friendly and we usually share ideas with each concerning the crypto space.
So, I don't know how many bitcoiners you have the privilege to meet, I doubt what you have said is the case.

Most of the people limit within their circle. There are people who have fear in mind, as more scams are run in the name of bitcoin. People around might think bad of him when they don't have the proper understanding and knowledge about bitcoin. I personally never mind and once making P2P trade came to know the trader was from my locality and we had a meet-up to discuss. So, when we introduce ourselves with a person who have known well about bitcoin it is good.

[Mauser]

Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

No there is nothing wrong with bitcoins. All my friends and family know that I invest in bitcoins and other crypto currencies for a while now. I am not trying to hide it and enjoy talking about it with anybody who is interested in cryptos as well. The number of people thinking that bitcoins is a scam has dropped considerably over the years. The more popular crypto currencies became in the last year the more people started to learn about it and lost their fear of being scammed. I don't think that people are afraid to meet other bitcoin users, in my country there are quite a few gettogethers for crypto users. The fear comes more from dealing large sums of money, people would be similar afraid when they have to make large transactions in cash with people they have never met before. When going into a store there is a lot more protection, because the business is usually regulated and has a longer track record.

[pixie85]

OP, you should check out videos from bitcoin conferences. There's so many of them like Swan Bitcoin. Pomp is organizing a conference right now and it's free, you just have to sign yourself up.
There's a lot of people coming to these events. You probably would like it to work like a magnet that you wear a bitcoin t-shirt and random people come to say hi.

If you asked me in a public place if I hold bitcoin I would think it's some kind of a survey and be cautious. I'm friendly but there's so many scammers that you can never be sure of people's intentions.

[jokers10]

I don't think it's true that bitcoiners don't like meeting face to face. There are weekly meetups (of ~10-20 people) in the city I live in - however from my personal experience with these, it's just a giant circlejerk, there's no added value from those conversations. Every meaningful discussion happens online, imho.

Well we all have fun different ways and to meet to discuss an interesting topic has no less sense than lots of other forms of entertainment. But in offline meetings most would hardly say something exact because it can be unsafe, so I guess main topics would be abstract. And anyway IMO it is good to meet, to know that bitcoin becomes more popular, etc.

[coolcoinz]

I'll ask you a question OP. Imagine a situation when someone asks you where you work, how much you make a month, how many savings you have and in which bank. Would you be fine answering this?
Asking people if they are bitcoiners is very similar to asking all these questions in one go because most of us self custody, so if we own bitcoin, we have it at home. It's rare for people to hold a million dollars at home, but not for bitcoiners, many of us hold large amounts of money, therefore we don't like to talk about it in public. I don't want people to get the wrong idea that I'm some money launderer with a lot of untraceable electronic currency.

When I was a kid there was a physical currency exchange near my home and one day, in the evening, the owner was closing down and leaving with a suitcase of bills. Some guys knew he was armed so they didn't bother reasoning with him, they shot him on the spot and took the money. It was much less than I have on my desktop wallet and probably 100 times less than the coins on my hardware wallet is worth.

[BADecker]

^^^ But that's the point. You can't easily steal someone else's bitcoins, even if you shoot the guy dead.

In Bitcoin meetings, nobody has to tell anybody about the intricate details of how many bitcoins they have. In fact, nobody expects anybody to tell this stuff. All they would be doing is one-on-one discussing about bitcoin strategies, and general strategies for financial planning.

Church meetings do similar things, without people always being forced to divulge the intricacies of their family life (their bitcoin passwords).