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February 05, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
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I also don't say Royse did good or bad. I think that the measure of all this should be the quality of posts in his campaign(s). If a spammer is allowed to spam, then yes, the complaints are more legitimate. But until then, all this is hypothetical at best.

I also do not see anything particularly positive or negative here. It is certainly unusual. I trust that Royse meant well, but I am not so sure about his methods. It is my belief that the management of a bounty campaign should have discretion in their decisions, unless it impacts the larger community. Sure, the manager can choose whoever they want for the campaign, that is not the main issue here.

I have to agree that what he is doing by accepting members and then asking them to have neutral removed doesn't make much sense to me
That part does not make much sense to anybody. The only thing I can think of is it being something related to Royse777 using it in future to have another attempt at having their own feedback revised.

The common sense approach would be to simply ask applicants that were on the verge of being selected for campaigns but refused because of negative or neutral tags to simply try to have the them removed then re-apply to join campaigns.

Apart from having ulterior motives for selecting participants then asking/forcing them to ask members to remove tags as a prerequisite to stay within the campaign, nothing else comes to mind and this is yet another error of judgement in a long line of errors by Royse777.

I have no idea what ulterior motives you suspect him of having. Do we know what kind of neutral tags he asked to be removed? I cannot find such information, and unfortunately, trust feedback is not archived anywhere.

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February 05, 2023, 05:20:53 PM
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February 06, 2023, 07:30:44 AM
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So what's the controvery here, exactly?  Is it that Royse777 isn't accepting people into his campaign based on neutral feedbacks from DT members?  I just want to make sure I'm following correctly. 

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If this is about something different and I'm reading things wrong (always possible), somebody please school me on what the problem is here.

I believe it went something like this: Royse777 decided to accept members for the campaign even though they had neutral tags on their profiles. Later, he had an issue with selecting participants who had a neutral trust, so he informs the members that they had to clear certain neutral tags from their trust page if they wanted to remain in the campaign.

The way the italicised words sound, and even the statement made by other users, it looks as if a user has the power to remove the tags on their pages themselves.
Tbh, I know how difficult it used to be for people to convince someone like JG to remove a tag.
Besides, I don't think it's even necessary to remove a neutral tag. When a neg tag is harsh, the victim begs or makes a case and such a neg tag would be removed or revised to neutral tag. In my opinion, I think neutral tag is something that will likely remain their because it doesn't pose much threat.

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February 06, 2023, 10:56:54 AM
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I was remember with joker_josue's case get neutral tag. Even he's already ask the DT user which give the neutral tag and the community, the tag is revised but it doesn't removed.

The topic he opened in reputation saved his ass.


When in December 2022 I received this neutral label, I found it super strange because it doesn't correspond to reality at all. Initially I thought of questioning the author of that tag, but then I chose not to. Although I never agree.

It is true, that after a few weeks, and having been asked about this situation (which explained the logical reasons to me) I decided to contact the author of the tag, and later expose the situation to the community. After these contacts, the author of the label decided to withdraw it and inform me about it. After a few days, he put the tag back on without saying anything to me.

He continued to find that label totally disproportionate and that nothing corresponds to reality, taking into account that I am the top5 of users who post the most in this forum. I don't need to post to count for campaigns.

Give my share, my work here speaks for me. If people still think that I post just to count in campaigns, it's to be regretted, but friends as before. If you're a campaign manager, like I am, great. If you don't want to, patience and friends as before.

Despite everything, I still think it's highly unfair to have a tag (even though I'm neutral) raising the suspicion that I'm making low-quality posts, just to meet campaign objectives. This doesn't make any sense, when I make more than 70 posts a week. Give my share, I did everything I could. Each draw their own conclusions.

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February 06, 2023, 12:54:33 PM
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I don't think the issue with getting neutral tags should be a concern must than expected except for the negative tags, there's a way to make it simple, which has to be from the campaign manager to engage his organizations on the relevant meanings to each of the tags present, it's also a thing to consider that much of the bounties campaign participants where believed to be spammers which is wrong, at least a campaign has criterias for selection and i believe they wouldn't want to employ a participant who is a spammer, in the same view, any signature campaign does not go against neutral tags except for the negative one, so to me tags should not be much considered than what the user's profile represent itself.

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February 06, 2023, 01:29:05 PM
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Despite everything, I still think it's highly unfair to have a tag (even though I'm neutral) raising the suspicion that I'm making low-quality posts, just to meet campaign objectives. This doesn't make any sense, when I make more than 70 posts a week. Give my share, I did everything I could. Each draw their own conclusions.

Well, I can see where the "incoherent" part of the neutral tag on your profile is coming from.  Cool

I understand that not everyone is proficient in English. However, it's fair to say that some members may find it challenging to read your posts and may have trouble deciphering your messages. This can be a common issue when using translation tools like Google Translate (I don't know if that's actually the case here, but that's what it looks like).

Keep in mind, while you may be a top-notch poster in your local community, that same level of recognition may not extend to the English section of the forum. If I were you, I'd definitely brush up on my English skills or check out some resources that can help me with better syntax and grammar in my posts.

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February 06, 2023, 03:30:16 PM
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I understand that not everyone is proficient in English. However, it's fair to say that some members may find it challenging to read your posts and may have trouble deciphering your messages. This can be a common issue when using translation tools like Google Translate (I don't know if that's actually the case here, but that's what it looks like).

Yes, it is true that I use these types of resources. But one thing has nothing to do with the other.

Thankfully these tools exist to help us communicate with each other. This has never been an impediment to understanding. Interact with dozens of users and never had any problems.

Really, I apologize for my English. I've always made that clear to everyone and I have no problem saying it. Could it improve? Yes, it's a personal project that I haven't been able to move forward with yet.

So I don't see that as a justification for that kind of tag. But like I said, that's not a problem for me.
People draw whatever conclusions they want from my contributions.
I will continue as best I can, as I have done so far.

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