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Author Topic: A steady source of income is a man's bottom line to support his family  (Read 1238 times)
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February 09, 2023, 06:15:34 AM
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If your friend desperately needs a job and she refuses the path that has been set or the fortune that has been arranged and she refuses, that is very stupid. Many people need a job and don't care if their salary is small or not because a wise family head will think that the most important thing is to be able to provide for his wife and children.
and if there are other needs for his wife's operational costs due to illness, he must think about the most important things such as earning a living to eat and for other needs he can plan other needs and still accept work so that the family can still eat and also at least he can buy medicine affordable for his wife.
this is a test he has to go through, and for a small salary if you are active and passionate about doing it, there will definitely be a bigger expense or he can also look for other income, and he can also find a better job and quit when he gets it and that's the process.

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February 09, 2023, 06:38:01 AM
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When the income is fixed and does not increase then we are in a bad position, the trend of commodity prices will continue to rise due to inflation or production costs, if we only rely on fixed income then we can be sure that we will not be able to make ends meet, the presence of the internet and smart phones provides we have an opportunity to increase our income, and it's time for us to force ourselves to invest.


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February 09, 2023, 07:10:12 AM
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Or better yet, have multiple income streams. Just so you have a backup if you get fired from your job or your main income goes bust.
Main thing that you should have in mind on which you shouldnt really be that confident on what you do currently have because your main job could possibly be in problem on unexpected times.
Therefore, it would be wise that you already made out some back up plans on what you should gonna do and this is where you do find out another sources which you could assure yourself
that you wont really be having problems when it comes to finances on the time where emergencies and investment opportunities do come along the way.
You cant really just make yourself that confident with these scenarios or probabilities.

That is why others are finding jobs that are stable, meaning they will last a long time, like in government. A lot of people in my country want to have a position in government, as they know that if they get one, they have already secured their future as no matter what, government won't collapse (unless there is an economic catastrophe in the country). But the problem is that the salary is way too low if you are just starting in government, and an increase in salary takes a year, but still it is stable,  that is the time you will have another source of income as it can give you extra money to spend.
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February 09, 2023, 07:26:50 AM
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The interviewers would just say the job is not entitled to any insurance or benefits, what they can offer is a very low base salary and the commission part would be subject to how many sales the employee can bring to their company. My friend was not willing to take any of them because he has a family to feed and his wife's condition is unstable which could need a lot of money for surgery at any time.
It is even because of that bolded part that your friend should take the job. I am talking from a personal experience here, my wife did not need any surgery but I too turned down job offers because I mostly thought they were not willing to pay me what is desirable based on my previous jobs and experience and it was a difficult time caring for the family. I believe you should advise him like someone also mentioned earlier, it is better to take small than not to have at all.
I agree, it is important to take the smaller but guaranteed one for now, but it is also important to make sure that you have a place to grow. I think that is why I love my job, I could make this much money, but I could make more as well, depending on how life turns out.

Sometimes I feel like there is ALWAYS something going on in my life, sometimes it's not just me but like disasters and pandemic, sometimes it's just me like sickness and all, but there is always something. So if you could make sure that you could make some sort of money no matter where you are, then you will be doing fine and that is the important part, find something but also keep on looking for something bigger.

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February 09, 2023, 07:32:34 AM
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This is why I really don't like patriarchy society, because everyone always put men who's dominate on his family and men must work in order to earn money. Women is view as an useless job because she will grow her children and taking care of household, actually women can work too, in case her husband already put all of his energy and time in order to get a job. Women is more easily to get job nowadays, so people need to be open minded in the current society.

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It is really awful to know that your buddy is going through a difficult time due to unemployment and the illness of his wife. It is reasonable that he is reluctant to accept a position that does not provide his family with enough perks and security. It is wonderful to see you care about your friend

Have you explored contacting local groups or government agencies that provide aid to jobless people? They may be able to link your acquaintance with more suitable resources and employment options. In addition, networking with family, friends, and past coworkers may be a useful tool throughout the job search process. As a result of letting others know he is seeking employment, he may get leads or suggestions.

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February 09, 2023, 09:54:10 AM
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The economic conditions in my country are currently difficult due to many factors, the inflation that continues to occur makes it difficult for many people to buy basic necessities, the country also owes a lot so many subsidies are removed, schools used to be free, but now schools and health are very expensive, I just can hope that this year's economy can improve, I also only work part time because the company's condition continues to lose money.


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February 09, 2023, 10:41:20 AM
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I mentioned somewhere that my closest friend has been unemployed for over a year due to the devastating collapse of his line of business and and his wife's sickness. Last time we met was a month ago and he was depressed in certain ways which worried me a lot. I called him to see if he was fine last Sunday and he told me he was looking for jobs and the next day he would go to several interviews. I was glad to hear that. Last night I called to follow up and he said the interviews were not going well. I aksed why. He told me that nowadays most companies are not doing well, barely making even actually. The interviewers would just say the job is not entitled to any insurance or benefits, what they can offer is a very low base salary and the commission part would be subject to how many sales the employee can bring to their company. My friend was not willing to take any of them because he has a family to feed and his wife's condition is unstable which could need a lot of money for surgery at any time. I understand him and am trying my best to help him find a high-pay job.

My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities. Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.
It’s hard to find jobs that will instantly offer you a high salary especially if you are a still a newbie. You can only expect for it maybe after years of being employed once you get the promotion. So my advice for your friend is he should never decline those jobs because it’s much better to have a low paying job so you can feed your family than to never have a source of income at all. If your friend really desire to have a higher source of income, a good investment can make it possible but for an 8-hour day job, I guess all it can offer are minimum wages unless if you are working in an executive department.
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I mentioned somewhere that my closest friend has been unemployed for over a year due to the devastating collapse of his line of business and and his wife's sickness. Last time we met was a month ago and he was depressed in certain ways which worried me a lot. I called him to see if he was fine last Sunday and he told me he was looking for jobs and the next day he would go to several interviews. I was glad to hear that. Last night I called to follow up and he said the interviews were not going well. I aksed why. He told me that nowadays most companies are not doing well, barely making even actually. The interviewers would just say the job is not entitled to any insurance or benefits, what they can offer is a very low base salary and the commission part would be subject to how many sales the employee can bring to their company. My friend was not willing to take any of them because he has a family to feed and his wife's condition is unstable which could need a lot of money for surgery at any time. I understand him and am trying my best to help him find a high-pay job.

My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities. Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.
It’s hard to find jobs that will instantly offer you a high salary especially if you are a still a newbie. You can only expect for it maybe after years of being employed once you get the promotion. So my advice for your friend is he should never decline those jobs because it’s much better to have a low paying job so you can feed your family than to never have a source of income at all. If your friend really desire to have a higher source of income, a good investment can make it possible but for an 8-hour day job, I guess all it can offer are minimum wages unless if you are working in an executive department.

Unless he has skills which let's say is way higher than others though you'll start at low salary. That is why others are spending a lot of time honing their skills last pandemic so that they can get into competitions towards getting the positions. Also, the other solution to this is having multiple sources of income like side jobs, I noticed after the pandemic a lot of people are doing side jobs and working as hard as they can since the prices of foods right now are higher. OP you have no choice but to accept it and find another source of income even if the salary is low but still you have 2 sources of income.
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February 09, 2023, 02:51:07 PM
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When a company wants to hire someone, they should be able to take the job, even if the salary is low and doesn't meet their expectations. If he works on sales commissions, he can try it first and see how much chance he has of getting a large commission. He may do a good job and earn a big commission. Meeting lots of people might open up business opportunities for him because an idea usually emerges if we meet other people.

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I mentioned somewhere that my closest friend has been unemployed for over a year due to the devastating collapse of his line of business and and his wife's sickness. Last time we met was a month ago and he was depressed in certain ways which worried me a lot. I called him to see if he was fine last Sunday and he told me he was looking for jobs and the next day he would go to several interviews. I was glad to hear that. Last night I called to follow up and he said the interviews were not going well. I aksed why. He told me that nowadays most companies are not doing well, barely making even actually. The interviewers would just say the job is not entitled to any insurance or benefits, what they can offer is a very low base salary and the commission part would be subject to how many sales the employee can bring to their company. My friend was not willing to take any of them because he has a family to feed and his wife's condition is unstable which could need a lot of money for surgery at any time. I understand him and am trying my best to help him find a high-pay job.

My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities. Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.
It's a pity, but I think this friend should temporarily accept the challenge of a job that he thinks is low salary and commission based on the revenue generated for the company / business to continue to earn money cover the cost of his wife's treatment. then it's better to choose and find a better job.  Obviously, after the covid19 epidemic, finding a stable job with a good income is extremely difficult.  I myself have a family and children, this story also reminds me to always plan and build income ranges # to create a backup fund, a passbook or insurance… that's also my responsibility.

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February 09, 2023, 03:08:02 PM
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I would vote plus one to the multiple income sources because that is the bottom need of today’s lifestyle. Our employers are giving x salaries based on let’s say skills, minimum wager criteria and also the industry we work in. The problem is we are not able tackle the inflation with that money. Apart from the inflation, we are not even able to fulfil the daily needs properly since stuff is getting way way costly in day to days life. I’m sure to overcome this we need or have only multiple income solution and nothing else. Hope so we keep up with the pace of modern era. Smiley
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... If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.

Having a steady source of income is something we all want, and no one wants to be unemployed or lose a job that helps us feed our families. But like you said, in life, there are often unexpected things that happen, so having a stable income is not enough, but it is necessary to have one or more savings for those emergencies. That's also why I disagree with some people using their entire wealth to invest in bitcoin without any savings. They think it's smart to do so, but if the unexpected happens and the investment gets stuck, they're stuck.

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February 09, 2023, 04:59:21 PM
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My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities. Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.
Since your friend already has a kind of job he has in mind, that is a job with benefits,  he has two options in front of him;
- Don't take any of the job without benefits, stay Jobless and searching for another better and more befitting opportunity.
- Take this jobs he doesn't like, but stay searching for better opportunity.

The first choice may not be an easy road, because the decision to stay jobless and searching can be a very difficult position to maintain especially since the bills are mounting up.

The second choice will provide him with some money to hold his side with while he searches for better opportunity, but the danger is that he may become comfortable and unmotivated to keep searching for another opportunity.

Your friend can evaluate this two choices and option before him to find out the one and situation that he can best handle.

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February 09, 2023, 05:32:57 PM
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Really understand what your partner is going through. But I think it's better to take a job that doesn't live up to expectations in terms of pay and benefits than to continue being unemployed. Doesn't he also need money for his daily needs? So if you don't have income, how can you fulfill it. I mean it's better to try existing jobs while looking for the desired job. If we force ourselves to get a job that we really want, it will be very difficult, especially if we don't have an income, even if it's small. It is better to get rid of our "selfishness".

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February 09, 2023, 05:52:26 PM
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1. I would immediately discard the gender division.
Why, for example, a woman cannot provide for her family, or, for example, both (husband and wife) supported the family on an equal footing? There are no standards, there are all sorts of situations. And the "thesis" - "a man earns and a woman nurses children, cleans the apartment and cooks food" - smells strongly of the Middle Ages Smiley

2. The task of ANY family member is to create and bring to the family those assets and values that he can. Someone is money, someone is comfort, someone is high-quality and reasonable management of the family budget, someone is investment, someone is EDUCATION of children (this is very important).

3. What is "permanent income" for you? Working as an employee with a monthly income? Own business ? Investment activities ? Self-employment (folk craft, outsourcing, ....) ?
I would phrase it a little differently. This is if we talk about material wealth and financial independence. The goal of each family member is to generate income, preferably from an active and passive part, and preferably with more than 1 source of income. Everyone - according to their capabilities, and with an understanding of their responsibility.

And the wording "the main goal of a man is to support his family" - as if hints that all the rest are kept women in relation to a man. It is not right

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Or better yet, have multiple income streams. Just so you have a backup if you get fired from your job or your main income goes bust.
If possible, every working individual should not just rely on a single job because once the company impose lay off, you will find it hard to live jobless. That’s when we have to adopt side hustles because it’s the safest thing we should do so we won’t be affected if we happen to lose our main job.

As for your friend OP, I cannot blame him if that is his mindset because he’s really living a hard life right now. But if he chose to be picky at all times, how can he land a good job that will give him an income? If you can spare him some extra money for business, I guess that would be better but still getting a main job should be the priority.

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... If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.

Having a steady source of income is something we all want, and no one wants to be unemployed or lose a job that helps us feed our families. But like you said, in life, there are often unexpected things that happen, so having a stable income is not enough, but it is necessary to have one or more savings for those emergencies. That's also why I disagree with some people using their entire wealth to invest in bitcoin without any savings. They think it's smart to do so, but if the unexpected happens and the investment gets stuck, they're stuck.
In case of OP’s friend, he should consider first getting a stable job regardless if it’s low paid as long as it can provide their needs. But getting a job alone is not enough, he should have other side jobs that can give him additional income and so he can save too for their emergency funds. So that in case his wife will need a surgery later on, he can use the funds intended for emergency funds, or any other unforeseen events that are beyond their control.
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Men who are responsible, are those who always meet the needs of their families, this is just a reflection of a good man and full of responsibility.

My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities. Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.
Maintaining a more stable income is far better than investing the large amount of money you have in investments, you can combine investment with meeting daily needs, many patterns can be adapted for such work, so you don't neglect family needs.

The simple pattern that I do is to make a percentage of three, the total of the income I earn from various jobs. 50% to meet family needs, 20% savings and 30% investment, it is proven that I am still able to maintain maximum cash flow. The benefits of these three patterns are enormous, when something happens we can use the savings to use, for example the needs of school children, health costs when families go to the hospital and urgent needs such as being outside the home to relax while traveling. So that investment is not disturbed and daily needs are not reduced. I have been implementing this concept for almost three years and managed to manage my finances stably even during conditions of inflation, recession and even when Covid-19 hit.

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February 10, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
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If you're thinking that something might unforeseen to come and happen to you then you have to secure your family through availing an insurance.

It doesn't really look important at all when you're not in a tough situation. But availing a policy of insurance will make you feel secured for your family.

When you're the bread winner and there's no other people that you can rely on then, you have to protect yourself through it.


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