New HW wallet announced: COLDCARD Q1

[n0nce]

I believe Nokia's are still being manufactured too, right?

I cannot find clear information about this from Nokia directly, but just a few years ago they released a new product with this battery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_105_(2019)

Since I've seen it in other brands' phones, too, and Foundation sells a 'Foundation Devices' branded one with their hardware wallet, I suspect that you can get them as a business customer either from Nokia directly, or from clone manufacturers, easily.

There are newer variants like the thinner BL-4C, but I don't think the 5C is going to be discontinued / unavailable any time soon.

I'm not sure if they've made more sophisticated batteries these days, but it's probably the most common battery after double A's, and triple A's.

I didn't catch on that the Foundation passport used Nokia batteries, that's pretty neat. I'm glad to see hardware wallets looking to alternatives to the traditional batteries used.

It's definitely good enough for a hardware wallet - much better than the triple-A's (at least with the power circuitry in Passport, that is).

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[DaveF]

And a year after they started taking pre-orders
https://twitter.com/nvk/status/1755617609905566090

So still no ship date but at least it looks like they are producing something.

Still too little to late with no updates.

Also, makes you wonder if you did order one, and they are claiming they don't retain customer data for that long, how & where did they keep all the info from the orders?

-Dave

[SFR10]

Also, makes you wonder if you did order one, and they are claiming they don't retain customer data for that long, how & where did they keep all the info from the orders?

They mentioned in one of their replies "they have to keep it till it ships", but on an older post, they pointed to the automated data blanking happening "120 days after the shipping process has taken place"!

[Synchronice]

Also, makes you wonder if you did order one, and they are claiming they don't retain customer data for that long, how & where did they keep all the info from the orders?

They mentioned in one of their replies "they have to keep it till it ships", but on an older post, they pointed to the automated data blanking happening "120 days after the shipping process has taken place"!

While I like the Coldcard and their products, I would still say that it's better to use PO box or freight forwarder company if you want to protect your identity. They claim they'll delete stored data but who knows? Does anyone check? No. It's not only about Coldcard but about every company and service. They are doing regular backups, store those backups, save databases and so on. It's also a huge marketing info for them to analyze the info of their customers, including their location, who buys what, their emails, behaviors and so on. I don't say they do this but for safety reasons, it's better to assume that they do!

[DaveF]

Also, makes you wonder if you did order one, and they are claiming they don't retain customer data for that long, how & where did they keep all the info from the orders?

They mentioned in one of their replies "they have to keep it till it ships", but on an older post, they pointed to the automated data blanking happening "120 days after the shipping process has taken place"!

Which was kind of the point I was making when I was too tired to put it properly.
They now have your info for over a year if you were one of the people who ordered early.

Add in another amount of time till it ships and then 120 days it's probably over a year and a 1/2 they are sitting on your info.

Using the 'ship to a PO box' or other location means that you have now had to keep that address for a while instead of going to another shipping location.

-Dave

[dkbit98]

And a year after they started taking pre-orders

Don't worry, it's guaranteed to happen for next year also  

So still no ship date but at least it looks like they are producing something.

He also released a short video presentation for new Coldcard Q1 if you didn't see it already, but it's so big and ugly for a hardware wallet.
https://twitter.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/1755639690357510485

Also, makes you wonder if you did order one, and they are claiming they don't retain customer data for that long, how & where did they keep all the info from the orders?

Very good point  
This is probably just email address for start, but did they really publicly say they don't retain any customer data?

They mentioned in one of their replies "they have to keep it till it ships", but on an older post, they pointed to the automated data blanking happening "120 days after the shipping process has taken place"!

Nothing is fixed in stone for coldcard.
One day they can be open source, than not anymore. 

[satscraper]

He also released a short video presentation for new Coldcard Q1 if you didn't see it already, but it's so big and ugly for a hardware wallet.
https://twitter.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/1755639690357510485

Watching this presentation I have noticed the laser-based QR scanner  implemented by  Coldcard Q1. It seems to be the innovative feature never employed by any known HW if I'm not mistaken. Laser scanner should increase reader's resolution and as a result improve device performance when pairing and signing transaction via QR code.

Probably, I will buy Q1 when available.

[Pmalek]

They mentioned in one of their replies "they have to keep it till it ships", but on an older post, they pointed to the automated data blanking happening "120 days after the shipping process has taken place"!

The last paragraph on that image is the most important one. Although Coinkite might be deleting the data just like they say they do, their partners and 3rd-parties do things differently and probably don't take such actions. It's also worth asking how much of their work and processes is Coinkite outsourcing to 3rd-parties? Remember the Trezor hack from not that long ago. It was caused by Trezor outsourcing their customer support platform to an outside party, which then got hacked, leaking the data that it kept.

[Pmalek]

Ben from BTCSessions has created a video review for the upcoming Coldcard Q hardware wallet. The video shows how to set up the wallet when you first get it, how to backup and recover a wallet, how to pair it to the Nunchuk mobile wallet via NFC, the process of exporting the public keys, how to receive and send transactions, etc.

You can watch the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNjJ0AuxgHs

[dkbit98]

Ben from BTCSessions has created a video review for the upcoming Coldcard Q hardware wallet. The video shows how to set up the wallet when you first get it, how to backup and recover a wallet, how to pair it to the Nunchuk mobile wallet via NFC, the process of exporting the public keys, how to receive and send transactions, etc.

I like BTCSession and he is making very good videos, but colcard and nvk are one of his sponsors 
After watching this video I can confidently say that this is one of the worst looking hardware wallets I ever saw... it's huge and wider than his smartphone 
Coldcard added BBQR code format that is not supported in any software wallets... and they say it was done right 
Paying $199 for this device without batteries and USB cable included is a waste of money.

[Pmalek]

I like BTCSession and he is making very good videos, but colcard and nvk are one of his sponsors 

The dude has a lot of them, I wouldn't be surprised if Coldcard is on that list. I never pay attention to the first minute or two of his videos and jump forward when the real content begins.

After watching this video I can confidently say that this is one of the worst looking hardware wallets I ever saw... it's huge and wider than his smartphone 

The size is too big, but I don't care about the shape of it. That is, if I wanted to buy one, its wide calculator body and the many buttons wouldn't be the thing that would stop me. Unless it's a dildo-form, I don't care.

Coldcard added BBQR code format that is not supported in any software wallets... and they say it was done right 

Those are animated QRs, right? What do you mean not supported? Does that mean there is currently no popular software wallet capable of reading the QRs that the Q1 generates? Can I ask the source for this information?

[satscraper]

After watching this video I can confidently say that this is one of the worst looking hardware wallets I ever saw... it's huge and wider than his smartphone  

They wanted a qwerty keyboard to be accessible at  the wallet's routine but I think, they could make it to be attachable to the wallet with the small form factor and kill two birds with one stone. Besides , users could attach to such device their own portable keyboard. What do you think about this?

[Pmalek]

They wanted qwerty keyboard to be accessible at  the wallet's routine but I think, they could make it to be attachable to the wallet with the small form factor and kill two birds with one stone. Besides , used could attach to such device his own portable keyboard. What do you think about this?

That would put in jeopardy the airgapped nature of the hardware wallet. A keyboard like that could, in theory, have malware. It could log your keystrokes, save them internally, and wait for an opportunity to broadcast that data if it ever gets connected to an online device. Nowadays, it could even be equipped with its own network and either upload or download data from a connected device. Being too worried about these things isn't healthy, but neither is not caring at all.

[satscraper]

They wanted qwerty keyboard to be accessible at  the wallet's routine but I think, they could make it to be attachable to the wallet with the small form factor and kill two birds with one stone. Besides , used could attach to such device his own portable keyboard. What do you think about this?

That would put in jeopardy the airgapped nature of the hardware wallet. A keyboard like that could, in theory, have malware. It could log your keystrokes, save them internally, and wait for an opportunity to broadcast that data if it ever gets connected to an online device. Nowadays, it could even be equipped with its own network and either upload or download data from a connected device. Being too worried about these things isn't healthy, but neither is not caring at all.

Oh, yeah, you are correct,  The 3^rd party portable keyboard could potentially threaten the wallet. But they could design their own attachable keyboard and sell it    bundled with wallet itself. Besides, such attachable keyboard could be sold as a spare part of the wallet because buttons have a tendency to fail passively.

[SFR10]

After watching this video I can confidently say that this is one of the worst looking hardware wallets I ever saw... it's huge and wider than his smartphone 

Coldcard added BBQR code format that is not supported in any software wallets... and they say it was done right 

I couldn't find the culprit behind its incompatibility with wallets that can scan animated QR codes ^{[e.g. AFAICR, Bluewallet was one of them]}... Did any of the influencers who received their Q1 ^{[or rather Q]} devices, report having issues with them?

Paying $199 for this device without batteries and USB cable included is a waste of money.

I agree, but considering that they have a history of selling overpriced products ^{[e.g. blockclock series]}, we shouldn't expect more from them.

[dkbit98]

Those are animated QRs, right? What do you mean not supported? Does that mean there is currently no popular software wallet capable of reading the QRs that the Q1 generates? Can I ask the source for this information?

Done ''right'' but in reality unusable.
Everyone else is using BC-UR standard, but nvk had to invent wheel again just so he could brag in social media... ™

QR Code scanner done right™

https://coldcard.com/docs/coldcard-q/
https://github.com/coinkite/BBQr

They wanted a qwerty keyboard to be accessible at  the wallet's routine but I think, they could make it to be attachable to the wallet with the small form factor and kill two birds with one stone. Besides , users could attach to such device their own portable keyboard. What do you think about this?

I don't think we need full size keyboards for any hardware wallets, they could compromise security, and think it would not work correctly.
If I wanted to bring a something like that I would just bring my laptop, it's probably easier (to use) than c0ldcard Q  

I agree, but considering that they have a history of selling overpriced products ^{[e.g. blockclock series]}, we shouldn't expect more from them.

I dont expect anything from nvk, especially after very long presale period, but I guess he is living from this business.

[Pmalek]

Done ''right'' but in reality unusable.
Everyone else is using BC-UR standard, but nvk had to invent wheel again just so he could brag in social media.

I have only found two reviews of the new Q1 on YouTube. Both are by BTC Sessions. The first one is the video I already shared, where he connected his Coldcard to Nunchuk via NFC. The second one is with the Sparrow wallet, where he imports his public keys via USB. It's kind of weird to do that if it's supposed to be an airgapped signing device. I haven't seen any videos so far where anyone is using QR codes. Are you absolutely sure that no software wallets can read the QR standard that the Q1 is using? Have you seen complaints by people that would suggest that?

[zherbert]

https://x.com/zachherbert/status/1728077006745542860?s=20

[satscraper]

https://x.com/zachherbert/status/1728077006745542860?s=20

Thanks for sharing this.

I need a second HW cosigner for my multisig wallet based on Sparrow coordinator. My Passport 2 is the first cosigner  and I  considered COLDCARD Q1 as one of a number of potential second cosigner but after reading your info took this device off the list candidates. Probably will turn my look to Jade or something else.

[Pmalek]

Coldcard has announced that they will start shipping the Q1 preorders from next week. In their own words, they have a huge backlog of orders to go through. They have also announced that it might take several months to ship everything. So, if you ordered a Coldcard Q1, check the email connected to the purchase regularly because they will email customers when their orders are ready to be sent.

https://twitter.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/1766864339527413819