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February 13, 2023, 03:53:15 AM
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What happened::

  • Doing some work for saxydev and earned $90 in XMR (he also confirmed that i earned $90).
  • Payment was promised will be send on 25th January.
  • On 24th January he reached me to re-confirmed if my address are correct or not, he will going on vacation and his financial department will send the money on 25th January.
  • But never received it till now.
  • Saxydev claimed he already sent the payment on 3rd February and the issue is on my wallet. 1
  • I asking for TxID and transaction key, He says he will install the wallet and send it to me after 5-10 hours of syncing.
  • By the time i wrote this its already 32 hours and i haven't received the TxID and Transaction Keys. 
  • He claimed that he already checked his wallet and again he claimed that he already sent the money and its already on my wallet. 2
  • He said he willing to share the TxID and Transaction Keys to some trusted member to check it but he never send me the TxID and Transaction Keys. 3



(presumably)Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3410716

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436425

Amount (presumably)Scammed:
$90

Payment Method:
XMR

Proof of Payment:
I'm the recipient 

PM/Chat Logs:
Discord Chat Logs: https://pastebin.com/yPuXVmcR
Screenshots:
https://imgur.com/GgXt22n
https://imgur.com/gMLAspU
https://imgur.com/XiUOaSE
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https://imgur.com/1NJnPwJ
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https://imgur.com/CEgfB68
https://imgur.com/C8ENvFt
https://imgur.com/gBnPifR
https://imgur.com/FnacrZf

Link to all 23 screenshoots in one album: https://imgur.com/a/kKSWwVJ


Additional Notes:
1https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436291.msg61747448#msg61747448
2https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436291.msg61750857#msg61750857
3https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436291.msg61750857#msg61750857 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436291.msg61751340#msg61751340
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February 13, 2023, 03:55:45 AM
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Dude, you have been paid. And I said in the other thread that I will send to others to check only in private, not in public. Resync your wallet whatever, it is not my problem
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February 13, 2023, 04:01:32 AM
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Dude, you have been paid. And I said in the other thread that I will send to others to check only in private, not in public. Resync your wallet whatever, it is not my problem

My discord chat are open 24 hours, thats not in public.
still you never send TxID and Tx Key to me.
I've proof it that my balance are 0, now proof it if you really have sent it.
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February 13, 2023, 04:32:05 AM
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Dude, you have been paid. And I said in the other thread that I will send to others to check only in private, not in public. Resync your wallet whatever, it is not my problem

My discord chat are open 24 hours, thats not in public.
still you never send TxID and Tx Key to me.
I've proof it that my balance are 0, now proof it if you really have sent it.

https://ibb.co/GRQ2jbp

take it. you know the resources I pulled to get the key? neah, resync your wallet, it's there

block: 2813799
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February 13, 2023, 05:17:31 AM
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Dude, you have been paid. And I said in the other thread that I will send to others to check only in private, not in public. Resync your wallet whatever, it is not my problem

My discord chat are open 24 hours, thats not in public.
still you never send TxID and Tx Key to me.
I've proof it that my balance are 0, now proof it if you really have sent it.

https://ibb.co/GRQ2jbp

take it. you know the resources I pulled to get the key? neah, resync your wallet, it's there

block: 2813799

i got your deleted screenshot that you sent on discord,
the transaction id was censored, but the one that in the url not.
Transaction ID:  6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95
https://blockchair.com/monero/transaction/6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95
when i tried to search it, it belong to other block https://www.exploremonero.com/block/2820718 from 3 days ago
not from https://www.exploremonero.com/block/2813799
since've 0 knowledge on monero i might need some assistance from @FatFork and the other to validating this.
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February 13, 2023, 06:00:11 AM
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since've 0 knowledge on monero i might need some assistance
You may try to check on https://xmr.llcoins.net/checktx.html (github link) to verify if the transaction contains a output with your public address. You need a tx hash, priv. viewkey, and your (recepient's) monero address.


However by checking @saxydev's trust feedbacks, I think you got caught up with the wrong person.
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February 13, 2023, 06:09:44 AM
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since've 0 knowledge on monero i might need some assistance
You may try to check on https://xmr.llcoins.net/checktx.html (github link) to verify if the transaction contains a output with your public address. You need a tx hash, priv. viewkey, and your (recepient's) monero address.


However by checking @saxydev's trust feedbacks, I think you got caught up with the wrong person.
got this result: Failed to get transaction data! Perhaps LocalMonero is down?  Huh
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February 13, 2023, 06:19:26 AM
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since've 0 knowledge on monero i might need some assistance
You may try to check on https://xmr.llcoins.net/checktx.html (github link) to verify if the transaction contains a output with your public address. You need a tx hash, priv. viewkey, and your (recepient's) monero address.


However by checking @saxydev's trust feedbacks, I think you got caught up with the wrong person.
got this result: Failed to get transaction data! Perhaps LocalMonero is down?  Huh


Kid. Fking hell dont be an idiot.

First thats not the txd.
Second don't put your private key in the browser just like that..

Going to sleep, brb 48-72 hrs
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February 13, 2023, 06:34:18 AM
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Second don't put your private key in the browser just like that..
His funds wont get stolen even if someone knows his private viewkey. Worst case scenario is someone can view his balance.
@OP, get the correct txid from saxydev and try this alternatively in monero client: How to prove a payment was made
In monero-wallet-cli:
Code:
check_tx_key TXID TXKEY ADDRESS
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February 13, 2023, 06:43:46 AM
Last edit: February 13, 2023, 07:53:47 AM by c0ldbrewz
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Kid. Fking hell dont be an idiot.

First thats not the txd.
Second don't put your private key in the browser just like that..

Going to sleep, brb 48-72 hrs

that's the info i got from you, from the deleted screenshot that you sent.




an this is the newest screenshot you sent.



its block 2820718 not block 2813799

How can the 1st screenshot TxID: 6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95  says 7001 confirmation and have my address in it and you said in block 2813799
But on 2nd Screenshot TxID: 6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95 says 107 confirmation and block 2820718

 Huh Huh


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February 13, 2023, 08:19:21 AM
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https://ibb.co/GRQ2jbp

take it. you know the resources I pulled to get the key? neah, resync your wallet, it's there

block: 2813799

@saxydev, I already answered this in another thread, but just in case you missed it, here's a reminder: to prove a payment on the Monero network, you'll need to show two things:

1. The correct TX ID
2. The secret transaction key (tx key) from your wallet


These details do not reveal your identity or the source of the payment in any way. It just proves that recipient received money. So, let's put the privacy concerns to rest and focus on getting the payment proven. Screenshots or any other forms of evidence that can be easily manipulated or altered are irrelevant in this case.

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February 13, 2023, 04:30:46 PM
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Quoting what saxydev said on the other thread so anyone can catch up and get the relevance with my post below,

I will share it to a trusted person outside the gang of ShitBaboonNewsletterBitcoin aka GazetaBitcoin to verify the transaction, my personal specification is that it is a private matter and I do not make public any of my own addresses or information related to any of transactions public. Working in my domain you may understand that sharing an address is the same as doxing yourself.

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You have a point sending straight to him would be easy and the best way. But I don't want to please others. He is not capable of keeping his own wallet safe, it is not my problem.

If someone is really interested and doing their role as part of the community, can text me and I will share it in private.

Yet nobody did it, why? Well, not even clue. Perhaps, nobody cares. They just complain in other's threads.

I have zero knowledge of monero, so guide and correct me if I'm wrong, but basically if we want to prove this payment and get to the end of this case, we can do it from https://localmonero.co/blocks with txID 6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95, so the complete web address would be,

Code:
https://localmonero.co/blocks/search/6cb0178cd40e70339bf83d80a71936d14721954958679ea4a910349562900e95

which would bring us to this page,



Where the "Recipient's Monero address" is what's given by the OP, 4B5P6RUPjedUu6xMavFrEthePYfgaEmnMHsoRKQf4jC1b2JYShUZdKS1FtDg7Y5phbQnhRY4MoLKZi6 KgR2emFeg9DC3HCG and the TX private key is what saxydev would provide, he wrote and I quote, "to a trusted person outside the gang of [...] GazetaBitcoin"

Am I correct?

If I am, then I'll ask saxydev, do I fall under that criteria? You asked if anyone would do their role as part of the community, and here I am, volunteering purely to get this case closed. I don't think I'm on any gang on this forum, and I would like to call myself --well, self proclaimed as it is-- trustworthy enough. Would you PM me that TX private key which will allows all of us to see the truth behind this case?

And to any other members, as I am aware that screenshot can be edited, but suppose saxydev kept his words and provide me with the TX private key so that I can confirm that the payment is indeed sent --or didn't sent-- would the screenshot provided by me enough as an evidence? I can assure you all that I won't bother editing the screenshots --aside from cropping and obscuring anything that can be used to identify me-- as whatever shown wouldn't benefits or detrimental to me.

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February 13, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
Last edit: February 13, 2023, 05:01:04 PM by dkbit98
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Payment was promised will be send on 25th January.
If he didn't send the payment like promised until 25th January than he broke a deal again, and he is known for doing that before  Tongue

his financial department will send the money on 25th January.
Oh common please, this guy is lying that he owns some kind of company and people who work for him.
His ''financial department'' couldn't send $90 without their master and commander, so they had to wait for him to return from Davos WEF meeting Cheesy

Saxydev claimed he already sent the payment on 3rd February
Even if with some miracle you receive this money in the end, it's a fact that he broke a deal and he was later with his payment.
Nobody should trust this liar anything because it's obvious he can't keep his word.
Oh yes, I almost forgot to say that I am still waiting to receive 0.1 BTC payment from him.

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February 13, 2023, 06:50:04 PM
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Congrats for opening this thread, OP! You should have done this for a while now, but better later than never.

Now let's see... As dkbiy98 already emphasized,

If he didn't send the payment like promised until 25th January than he broke a deal again

Next step now is to open another flag against the scammer and use this topic as reference link. Perhaps you are afraid that he won't pay you anymore if you open the flag, but you were already in this situation since you made the deal with the scammer. Perhaps you still hoped for a while, but it was useless. If you are really afraid that he won't send you the money anymore if you open a flag then better think that he was not going to pay anything since you pointed the finger at him in the other thread. In any case, the truth is that he was not going to pay you since Jan 23rd, when you provided him the materials.

his financial department will send the money on 25th January.

Do you actually believe this? What financial department? And what financial department would not have 90$? Even the financial department of a Mom & Pop's store would have this kind of money. In any case, if you actually believed there is a real financial department, of a real company, how was this department going to pay you XMR, huh? Companies work with fiat, not with Monero. I really hope you never bit the scheme with the "financial department". Let's think even more far: suppose that department would work with XMR. How can a company take money out of its treasury without an invoice? I believe you haven't issued him any invoice, have you? Lol. I said that since the beginning: this scammer is eating the dirt from under his fingernails and is here for pilfering. If you sell your shoes you have enough money to buy him together with his entire family consisting in 15 brothers and sisters, all Gypsies, his parents, his four grandparents, all living in a 20 square meters one room dirty apartment from a hood full with paupers and unemployed. Like pajeets, as TMAN used to say. Do you know what a pajeet is? A smelly dirty curry drinking hairy Indian that poos in the Loo. Except that this scammer is Gypsy and poos in the Danube.

Saxydev claimed he already sent the payment on 3rd February

In the other topic you first said he promised you the payment on Jan 25th, right? Then he delayed to Feb 3rd. Now is Feb 13th. Do you think he'll take you out tomorrow, on Valentine's Day, buy you a meal and pay you the 90$? I believe not, so we get back to this:

For now the best option for me is just waiting [...]
it should be no more than 30-60mins
lets wait and see.

5-10 hours then, okay

He insist [...]
he will send me [...]
let's wait and see.

Do you see the pattern here?

And now he says

Going to sleep, brb 48-72 hrs

"Brb 48-72 hours"?!? What kind of "brb" is that? In what part of the world "be right back" means 48-72 hours? So it's not a "bbl" (be back later), but a "brb"! I wonder what "bbl" means for him, if "brb" means 72 hours. And who sleeps "28-72 hours"? This guy should be an example for all women from around the world, with a new definition of "I'll be ready in 5 minutes". When a woman says this it usually takes from 10 to 60 minutes, lol. But he is going to "be right back" in 72 hours. I short nap of 28-72 hours. All good.

Are all these enough reason for you, OP, to open a flag? Furthermore: even if he would pay you right now, the flag should still stand, for violating the contract you had! The payment does not make him clean, as a burglar is not exempted from jail if he pays back the victims what he stole from their house. The payment is only a form of accepting the guilt.



take it. you know the resources I pulled to get the key?

Ooooooooooooooo tell us! What resources did you have to pull? Did you have to carry mill stones? Did you have to run 50 km? Did you have to climb up to 100th floor of a building without elevator? Or what resources are we talking about here? I act like you made a herculean effort.

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Last edit: February 13, 2023, 08:56:53 PM by pixie85
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On 24th January he reached me to re-confirmed if my address are correct or not, he will going on vacation and his financial department will send the money on 25th January.
Saxydev claimed he already sent the payment on 3rd February and the issue is on my wallet.
I asking for TxID and transaction key, He says he will install the wallet and send it to me after 5-10 hours of syncing.

What happened to the financial department. The boss has to install the wallet himself now?  
These fake business people crack me up every time.

Wait a second I will let my customer service agent contact you
<logs into another account>
Hello this is Saxydev's customer service, how can I help you?
Ok, we will send the request to our financial department, please hold.
<switches account>
Hi, this is financial department, we're going to send a request to the wallet operator...



Here's a picture of the CEO, CTO, CFO, and the whole customer service department.
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Last edit: May 26, 2023, 09:47:11 AM by GazetaBitcoin
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Here's a picture of the CEO, CTO, CFO, and the whole customer service department.

Here's another picture of the CEO, CTO, CFO, the whole customer service department, financial department being also included Smiley


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Am I correct?

Yes, you are basically right. Except, that TX mentioned earlier is probably not related to this case since the information in screenshots, particularly the block number and timestamp, doesn't match up. "saxydev" claims that the transaction was confirmed in block 2813799 (mined about 10 days ago), and the mentioned TX is part of block 2820718 from a few days ago.

If I am, then I'll ask saxydev, do I fall under that criteria? You asked if anyone would do their role as part of the community, and here I am, volunteering purely to get this case closed. I don't think I'm on any gang on this forum, and I would like to call myself --well, self proclaimed as it is-- trustworthy enough. Would you PM me that TX private key which will allows all of us to see the truth behind this case?

Given that saxydev is already caught in a web of his own lies, I highly doubt he will send you any proof. Nonetheless, remain wary of his words, as he may try to weasel his way out once more.

And to any other members, as I am aware that screenshot can be edited, but suppose saxydev kept his words and provide me with the TX private key so that I can confirm that the payment is indeed sent --or didn't sent-- would the screenshot provided by me enough as an evidence? I can assure you all that I won't bother editing the screenshots --aside from cropping and obscuring anything that can be used to identify me-- as whatever shown wouldn't benefits or detrimental to me.

Sure, we can do that. If he gives you the transaction details and you confirm that it's legit, I'll adjust my trust rating based on your word (no need for a screenshot). However, as I have repeatedly pointed out, the transaction details don't reveal any information about the sender, but only the address of the recipient and the amount sent, so there is absolutely no reason not to share this information publicly in terms of privacy. So, there is no material difference between sharing a screenshot of a transaction receipt and a link to a transaction receipt, except that the latter provides verifiable evidence while the former does not.

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February 14, 2023, 11:35:58 AM
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How desperate do you have to be to steal $90 from someone?

A person wasn't happy with my work, asked for their $50 refund, I sent it back to them no problem. Case was closed.

People have been doing exit scams for much larger amounts recently, but $90 is a very pathetic value to ruin your reputation over. Why not just be frank and settle the transaction?

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February 14, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
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Am I correct?

Yes, you are basically right. Except, that TX mentioned earlier is probably not related to this case since the information in screenshots, particularly the block number and timestamp, doesn't match up. "saxydev" claims that the transaction was confirmed in block 2813799 (mined about 10 days ago), and the mentioned TX is part of block 2820718 from a few days ago.


I see. But let's suppose we insist on using that TxID as it's what admitted by saxydev to be the valid TxID, and thus, the complete web address as I wrote above, will entering both entries --the address and the TX private key-- brings us a "false positive", i.e. it will says xxx amount of XMR --equals to 90$-- was indeed sent to OP's address while saxydev actually never send it? Or will it says something like, "invalid data, transaction not found"?

If what'll happen is the latter, then the result itself is conclusive enough that saxydev has never send the payment and brings us to the end of this case.

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February 14, 2023, 01:27:23 PM
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Am I correct?

Yes, you are basically right. Except, that TX mentioned earlier is probably not related to this case since the information in screenshots, particularly the block number and timestamp, doesn't match up. "saxydev" claims that the transaction was confirmed in block 2813799 (mined about 10 days ago), and the mentioned TX is part of block 2820718 from a few days ago.


I see. But let's suppose we insist on using that TxID as it's what admitted by saxydev to be the valid TxID, and thus, the complete web address as I wrote above, will entering both entries --the address and the TX private key-- brings us a "false positive", i.e. it will says xxx amount of XMR --equals to 90$-- was indeed sent to OP's address while saxydev actually never send it? Or will it says something like, "invalid data, transaction not found"?

If what'll happen is the latter, then the result itself is conclusive enough that saxydev has never send the payment and brings us to the end of this case.

For the record, saxydev never confirmed that TxID. We inferred this from the screenshots provided by c0ldbrewz. (Which are most likely fabricated to mislead the recipient.)

You can never get a "false positive" result. Either he will give a valid TX ID and TX secret key that will validate the transaction, or you will get an error message such as "the transaction cannot be decrypted," depending on the tool used.

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