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February 28, 2023, 10:09:54 PM
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Knowing myself, I would have started a military resistance to stop the advance of the invader, much like the president of Ukraine is doing right now, however I would also try to negotiate and see if there is some diplomatic way out from the conflict.

I do not like war, and since I have used some of my time investigating about its cruelty, I would try to save as many lives as possible.

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February 28, 2023, 10:23:53 PM
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Knowing myself, I would have started a military resistance to stop the advance of the invader, much like the president of Ukraine is doing right now, however I would also try to negotiate and see if there is some diplomatic way out from the conflict.

I do not like war, and since I have used some of my time investigating about its cruelty, I would try to save as many lives as possible.

That's exactly what the Russian government did when the Ukraine military inappropriately attacked the Donbas.

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February 28, 2023, 11:52:40 PM
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It would be literally my job to protect my country. So of course. Why an earth they would surrender?

What's the alternative? Let the enemy walk all over you and rape and kill your women and chidren and rob you blind? And after they walked over you they would just keep on going all over europe.

As far as I know, Ukraine did not "declare war", simply had to defend the country in order for such country to continue existing as an individual entity with its own government. If your question is if it was a wise decision to fight such a defence, I think that given the situation and knowing what we now know, it was a reasonable decision.

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February 28, 2023, 11:58:38 PM
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Another question with Russian narrative. From your question it Ukraine and Zelensky started war and Russia isn't responsible at all. You're literally Russia in victims position. If your question would be neutral, maybe then it would be worth to discuss.
What Ukraine gained from it. It's difficult to get something positive from war. One of aspects probably that country become united like never before.

President Zelensky made a big mistake by engaging in war with Putin, knowning too well that he can't stand Putin, I think this dispute can only be resolved through peace talk. I'm appealing to Putin and Zelensky to end the dispute for humanity sake.
Here we go again - Ukraine started war against Russia. Please come back from alternative reality.

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March 01, 2023, 09:43:36 AM
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Knowing myself, I would have started a military resistance to stop the advance of the invader, much like the president of Ukraine is doing right now, however I would also try to negotiate and see if there is some diplomatic way out from the conflict.

I do not like war, and since I have used some of my time investigating about its cruelty, I would try to save as many lives as possible.

That's exactly what the Russian government did when the Ukraine military inappropriately attacked the Donbas.

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In BADecker world, Ukraine attacked the Donbas. But in the real world the Donbas was (and still is) Ukraine, so you are accusing Ukraine of "inappropriately" attacking Ukraine.

The fact is that Putin has been waging a war in the Donbas for several years, that is, after "inappropriately" annexing Crimea by force. Generals, advisors and even tanks of the RF army have been in the Donbas in a (what a coincidence!) undeclared war.

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March 01, 2023, 10:09:04 AM
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2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?
If I were the president of Ukraine, I may go to war and I may also not go to war and many things will determined my decision. These factors that determine my decision are;

What will be the consequences of not involving in the world?
If the consequences will be continuous intimidation and slavery to the other country, I will fight till the last citizen of my country is wipeout.

But if the consequences is not related to suffering and slavery, but just political alignment. I will just back off and maintain peace in my country.
It also depends on the kind of advice the president get. Many people must have promised him ammunition and man power

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March 01, 2023, 12:01:15 PM
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Back in the past, leaders are always joining the war with their soldiers to give them morals, and also, speeches from leaders is the most important of all especially when you heard them on the front line. Nowadays, if they can manage to do a proxy war where they don't even need to sacrifice their soldiers just some ammo support to give their allies, they would do so and you won't find such a scenario where they even join and go to the frontline to join their men. That's why if you die for a country like Ukraine or Russia, it's not worth it anymore.
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March 04, 2023, 01:43:18 PM
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After reading through some articles online I realized that despite the negative effects of war, there are still positive outcomes that can be achieved through war.
This brought my attention to the Russian Ukraine war that lasted about 1 year now.

Some positive effects that result from war include "the correction of injustices, the defeat of a problematic government, advancement in technology and medicine, and a reduction of unemployment".

1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?
War is a conflict between a region, a country, because it has a specific goal, for example, wanting to break free from the shackles of colonialism, because, injustice, the leadership is arbitrary, which results in riots, damage, between one another. many victims fell, on both sides, so many were harmed, the impact of the war.
1. many victims, especially, women, children
2. the occurrence of famine, due to lack of food
3. Paralyzed road access, economic collapse.
4. delays in supply, export and import, from various countries, due to the conflict. steps to reach an agreement, there must be awareness or stop it, war, between the two sides, must negotiate, with each other, make peace, end the war.
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March 04, 2023, 04:55:41 PM
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1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?
I do not know completely, but from what I see, Ukraine has become completely dependent on the United States and Western countries. Whether because of the destruction of a large part of the infrastructure and the other reason that the Ukrainian government receives material and military support from Western countries, it is forced to be subject to it in the end.

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?
The decision of peace or war should not be in the hands of the president alone, but there must be a consensus on this decision because it is related to the fate of the entire nation.

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March 04, 2023, 06:24:25 PM
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It would be literally my job to protect my country. So of course. Why an earth they would surrender?
As far as I know, Ukraine did not "declare war", simply had to defend the country in order for such country to continue existing as an individual entity with its own government. If your question is if it was a wise decision to fight such a defence, I think that given the situation and knowing what we now know, it was a reasonable decision.
Me I don't like war, but one can't say the same thing about others, they are some people who loves fighting, they just want to show their power, like what the Russia president is doing now, if it was to be me, I would have tried to talk peace, just to avoid my citizens losing their lives and properties. To my own understanding Ukraine didn't start the war, they just wanted to NATO and the Russia president knows the disadvantages of Ukraine NATO, the impact it will have in their economics, that's the reason for this war. that's just my own point of view.
 
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