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February 17, 2023, 05:19:23 PM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
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I am not sure I am understanding you correctly. Are you saying that it may be possible that Satoshi can change how bitcoin works? If so, you should know that bitcoin is an open-source project and there is nothing hidden from the people. Satoshi has no control over bitcoin network.
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February 17, 2023, 05:34:34 PM |
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If I can understand your question well, you are asking if Satoshi can change the work of Bitcoin or change the network. The answer is simply "no" because Satoshi developed the Bitcoin protocol and launched the network. The protocol does not allow Satoshi or anyone else to change or control the network, and this is the essence of the idea that no one would be able to control the network or any other central authority, otherwise he would not have had all this reliability. On the other hand, the protocol is open source, and anyone can change it as they wish and launch a new project. There are actually several projects developed using the same protocol.
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February 17, 2023, 05:39:21 PM |
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I am not sure I am understanding you correctly. Are you saying that it may be possible that Satoshi can change how bitcoin works? If so, you should know that bitcoin is an open-source project and there is nothing hidden from the people. Satoshi has no control over bitcoin network.
This. Developers publish source code for projects in order for independent researchers to check for things like back doors or possible malicious code. This in addition to wanting the best talent on earth to be able to improve code without restrictions. It is these reasons that led to satoshi making Bitcoin open source so that it could be trusted and improved by all those willing to do so.
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February 17, 2023, 06:33:24 PM |
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Unless, hundreds of users have missed it, then nope he hasn't put a backdoor in it. As has been mentioned above by some users, open source means it's ready to view by anyone. However, that doesn't mean it's automatically safe which I believe some users might be confusing. Just because something is open source, doesn't mean it has backdoors, and when it comes to thousands of lines of code, it could potentially be missed. Do, I think that's the case for Bitcoin? Nah. There's been too many peer reviews of it, however do consider in the future that just because something is popular, and open source doesn't necessarily mean it's safe. Ideally, anything you use you'd verify the code yourself, but I understand not everyone has that technical ability, so you go to next best thing, and loko for someone who you trust that has reviewed it. That is why Satoshi Nakamoto still remain the founder of BTC because, he still have the ability to appear and change things that will attract different countries to adopt BTC or to be part of the benefits of BTC by making BTC teams more active in spreading the positive news about Bitcoin to the world. I guess, Satoshi Nakamoto still know what is happening with Bitcoin in the world Because, the main reason he or they created Bitcoin is to go round the world to eliminate delay in transaction.
That entirely depends on the hypothetical changes. If Satoshi has a different vision to the vast majority of the community, we don't have to follow his deviation. That's the beauty of Bitcoin, and one of the key fundamentals that Satoshi created. The freedom to choose.
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February 17, 2023, 07:04:56 PM |
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Back door? How do you mean, there is not back door available in Bitcoin . Satoshi is also an unknown identity this person could be a group, but what we know is that bitcoin is very much transparent.
Bitcoin is a simple ideology and it’s transparency has gotten it the high level of adoption it has, it’s over 10 years now and if there was any back door as you think someone probably the high numbers of critics Bitcoin has would have brought it up.
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February 17, 2023, 09:32:07 PM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that?
Here is the code for Bitcoin Core: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin. Thousands of people have gone though every single line of this code. If there is some kind of back door, it would not be a secret.
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February 17, 2023, 09:57:13 PM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that?
Impossible for a multitude of reasons - the code is open source, if Satoshi would have planted that he would have taken the risk of somebody discovering it and taking advantage before him - the code has changed a lot and he had no way to know that the part which allowed him to come back and the attack would be kept and not modified - there is a bit of consensus on the idea that Satoshi wasn't a full or expert programmer, so again it would have been near impossible for him to hide from a lot of people who were probably at least the same if not more experienced than him So, leaving a backdoor for 13 years in an open-source code wouldn't have been the brightest idea, not to mention the blowback when that would have been discovered. Imagine this would have happened in the first month, everyone would have just dropped the project and never touched it again. I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening.
One, the code is there for everyone to look at it, and with that much $ involved there will be thousands analyzing it, but also you can't do anything other than this.
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Bitcoin is an open-source project, and it's hard to put a backdoor into an open-source project with thousands of contributors, thousands of interested people, so this is highly unlikely. Backdoors usually happen with some shitcoins that no one cares to audit, or closed-source projects where the owner can do it without anyone knowing.
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February 17, 2023, 10:21:12 PM |
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So, leaving a backdoor for 13 years in an open-source code wouldn't have been the brightest idea, not to mention the blowback when that would have been discovered. Imagine this would have happened in the first month, everyone would have just dropped the project and never touched it again.
Bitcoin will be a trash project when it does with 1 hole satoshi inserted as a secret entrance. But in fact that didn't happen, with many contributors starting to develop bitcoin with open source code making bitcoin very well developed which was created by satoshi and managed by the community and used by the wider community. Bitcoin is decentralized, no one controls it even the creators of bitcoin.
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February 17, 2023, 10:34:12 PM |
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I am not sure I am understanding you correctly. Are you saying that it may be possible that Satoshi can change how bitcoin works? If so, you should know that bitcoin is an open-source project and there is nothing hidden from the people. Satoshi has no control over bitcoin network.
Thats what he meant on which he do assume out that if Satoshi do know something that he could make out some changes if he wanted to and would really be tending to do something like possible reverse transactions or even trying out to access a particular wallet or everything that do really connects out about security.Its true that Bitcoin is an open source and if there's something like this about possible exploits then it had been long time been detected and been fixed out but much sure once this one do pop out then confidence and trust would really be no longer the same before it was been known if ever this one happens. Its better not to make these kind of doubts and assumptions to have no stress. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 17, 2023, 11:10:13 PM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
There is no chance of this being true since this will require that every single person reviewing the code missed the backdoor or they were somehow coerced to ignore it, now if this is not enough for you then the solution is also easy, you can learn how to code and then check the code yourself, this way you can be completely sure this is the case and there is nothing like this on the code, now if you do not want to do this you will have no option but to trust on the judgment and skill of those which actually went through the problem of doing this.
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February 17, 2023, 11:12:08 PM |
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If there is a backdoor, it would have been discovered already. What could be a backdoor is if one day a government just gets thier hands on Satoshi's private key and claim it while the world sees BTC as the reserve just as some influencers are saying that BTC will be the currency reserve. It would be crazy if they knew the PK all along since the beginning of BTC. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It was all planned. The existence of BTC was planned right after the 2008 crisis.
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February 18, 2023, 10:45:40 AM |
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It is rather absurd instead appalling. How many years has Satoshi's code been committed to the codebase? It has been a long time, and back then, when bitcoin was still small, many people, especially those interested in the cryptographic community, were looking at it. They Scrutinized it. Until today, there are many people who already take a look at the code that simply there is no backdoor, in a sense single or multiple entities have direct exposure to alter the bitcoin protocol or network.
In another hand, there is a reason that bitcoin still leads to this date, and has the biggest market capitalization.
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February 18, 2023, 10:59:51 AM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
You're trying to bring a suggestion on weather the inventor of bitcoin which is Satoshi has a way he can manipulate things a d change the program to work to his taste since he created bitcoin, but maybe you're yet to understand what it means when it been said that bitcoin nodes where interconnected to each other, which means what you have here is what others will have as well all over the world, which means bitcoin transactions can not be altered, because blockchain is immutable, there's a program set in place that him (Satoshi) can not alter because that have a well structured program and protocol consensus they follows and validate same data with everyone connected to the nodes.
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February 18, 2023, 11:50:31 AM |
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It seems that some people think that Satoshi is such a genius that he might have managed to hide a backdoor in a project that is of course open source and has been public since 2009 and no one has managed to notice it until now ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) OP, do you have fears that one day Satoshi will appear, dump his 1 million BTC and ride off into the sunset with a few hundred billion $ or maybe even a trillion?
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February 18, 2023, 12:30:58 PM |
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Maybe it's just content that can be set up in such a way. But the point is that without any knowledge of Bitcoin if I were in that position I would take the same choice of $100. The reason is quite simple we can use $100 immediately, have physical possession and even at school we have been taught about the value and use of this money. So I won't blame him for not choosing Bitcoin it's just that when a content creator comes to someone who knows the value of Bitcoin and $100 it's clear he will choose Bitcoin.
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It's not as if Bitcoin is closed source. It is not as if Bitcoin is partially open source. Everything with Bitcoin is an open book. Anybody who doubts or wishes to review and check the codes line by line to make sure nothing suspicious is added may do so. And the codes have certainly been put under careful scrutiny by many developers.
Even if Satoshi added certain shady codes at the start, they wouldn't have survived. Anybody could have removed it right away.
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I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Even if Satoshi has to return to the network today he cannot effectively change anything on his own in the Bitcoin network. I do not understand your question too well but it seems you are asking if Satoshi left some bugs through which he can exploit Bitcoin. I don't think this is possible. Bitcoin is an open source protocol, and if such a bug existed, it would have been discovered and fixed by other developers working in the Bitcoin network.
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Bitcoin is an open-source project, you can read the project too. Satoshi can't change anything in the bitcoin blockchain, can't manipulate a transaction nor can he control the network in any way at present because we all know how decentralized the Bitcoin blockchain is.
Maybe he can have an impact on the Bitcoin price as he is supposed to be holding more than 1 million Bitcoin. If he starts moving fund, the world is going to see the most chaos I think lol.
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