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February 18, 2023, 12:40:21 PM
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Current bugs are trivial compared to what I had to deal with at the beginning. I'm not asking anyone to do a pen test or spend 10 hours clicking random buttons just to replicate a visual bug.
I'm simply asking for a favor - It's not with intent to raise the price once the bugs are fixed. Base price will stay $200 forever. Only when I'm done with new frontend will I charge more for that version - Again, basic version will always be $200.
This is not for myself as I am not going to hunt a bugs in your site but someone might doing it and I am asking this question on behalf of them. Since the title is buh hunt then my question is, do you paid those who find bugs in your site?. As I mention in my previous post that casinos before started a bug bounty where they let people in this forum to find or hunt bugs and then they will get paid for it and the payment depends on the bug difficulty if I put it like that. Are you going to pay them?. If yes, then this is most likely a bug bounty +  feature ideas and don't worry mate because there's nothing wrong doing it. Just asking if you are going to pay them if they found bugs. You haven't answered this so let me ask again.

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February 18, 2023, 01:03:37 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2023, 01:14:27 PM by phoenix-gambling
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 #22

Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.

It is important to recognize that you have no rights to resell this software without proper authorization. The official sales website (https://phoenix-gambling.com/) should be the only source for purchasing the script, and any reselling without authorization is illegal.

While you may have the right to sell your derivative work based on the script, such as bug fixes or new features, you must have written permission or a license from the original author allowing you to do so. Without proper authorization, reselling the script is illegal and can lead to serious consequences.
Moreover, scripts that are resold on the web often contain backdoors, which can cause harm to users and their websites. It is important to ensure that the script is legitimate and free of any malicious code before attempting to use it.

You can continue to use the win5x-1.5 script for your personal needs and as a learning material, but you have no right to resell it or use our name for your personal gain. The script is available on our GitHub repository free-of-charge for anyone, in its current form, as-is: https://github.com/Win5X-Team/win5x-1.5

Our development team has released an official statement regarding this matter. Please find it below.

Quote
Warning

Seems like this repository caused some confusion over the past year. This is NOT RELATED to https://new.playin.team in any way.

This version was never intended for public use or selling. We used it for our own project, that's it. After the leak on russian forums multiple scammers are trying to use our name, selling this version "way cheaper than we propose".

Even through source code is there, we don't recommend using it. It's not polished, made for Russian audience, and you will have to guess what our developer was thinking when he coded this outdated thing. Latest versions are completely rewritten using modern technologies.

If you need a casino website, feel free to contact us: https://new.playin.team. We have released sport betting update recently!

--


In conclusion, I urge you to reconsider your actions and seek proper authorization before attempting to modify or resell any of our scripts. Let us all work together to maintain the integrity and legality of software reselling practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Phoenix Gambling
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February 18, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.



Thank you for coming down here and clarifying and verifying that you are the real owner of the script, I call this abuse, once we bought or subscribe from one software or script seller we should read the terms and abide by the terms set up by the seller @swaga should adhere to the advice of the seller of the script.
You are calling someone for abuse but you yourself abuse your limited use of the script you bought, you need to address this issue.


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February 18, 2023, 01:25:44 PM
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.

It is important to recognize that you have no rights to resell this software without proper authorization. The official sales website (https://phoenix-gambling.com/) should be the only source for purchasing the script, and any reselling without authorization is illegal.

While you may have the right to sell your derivative work based on the script, such as bug fixes or new features, you must have written permission or a license from the original author allowing you to do so. Without proper authorization, reselling the script is illegal and can lead to serious consequences.
Moreover, scripts that are resold on the web often contain backdoors, which can cause harm to users and their websites. It is important to ensure that the script is legitimate and free of any malicious code before attempting to use it.

You can continue to use the win5x-1.5 script for your personal needs and as a learning material, but you have no right to resell it or use our name for your personal gain. The script is available on our GitHub repository free-of-charge for anyone, in its current form, as-is: https://github.com/Win5X-Team/win5x-1.5

Our development team has released an official statement regarding this matter. Please find it below.

Quote
Warning

Seems like this repository caused some confusion over the past year. This is NOT RELATED to https://new.playin.team in any way.

This version was never intended for public use or selling. We used it for our own project, that's it. After the leak on russian forums multiple scammers are trying to use our name, selling this version "way cheaper than we propose".

Even through source code is there, we don't recommend using it. It's not polished, made for Russian audience, and you will have to guess what our developer was thinking when he coded this outdated thing. Latest versions are completely rewritten using modern technologies.

If you need a casino website, feel free to contact us: https://new.playin.team. We have released sport betting update recently!

--


In conclusion, I urge you to reconsider your actions and seek proper authorization before attempting to modify or resell any of our scripts. Let us all work together to maintain the integrity and legality of software reselling practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Phoenix Gambling


Dear phoenix gambling.

Thank you for a reply.
I do not use your name in attempts to boost sales. Actually, I strongly believe using your name would, in fact, decrease my sales.

My product only merely resembles yours, frontend wise, and Im assuring you once that matter is dealt with there wont be any room left for putting two of our scripts in the same box.
For example, your product doesnt feature crash. What it does feature is several serious bugs - a product that retails at $2000 should not have those.
I would let you audit my work to make sure it differs from yours but Im certain you would simply take it and use it as your own.

That being said, please do not waste your money on trying to take legal action as you have no grounds for it.
Cheers.
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February 18, 2023, 01:27:00 PM
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It is important to recognize that you have no rights to resell this software without proper authorization. The official sales website (https://phoenix-gambling.com/) should be the only source for purchasing the script, and any reselling without authorization is illegal.
Can you confirm you are who you say you are by posting your Bitcointalk username in https://phoenix-gambling.com/Bitcointalk.txt ?

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February 18, 2023, 01:31:05 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2023, 12:01:39 PM by swaga
 #26

Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.



Thank you for coming down here and clarifying and verifying that you are the real owner of the script, I call this abuse, once we bought or subscribe from one software or script seller we should read the terms and abide by the terms set up by the seller @swaga should adhere to the advice of the seller of the script.
You are calling someone for abuse but you yourself abuse your limited use of the script you bought, you need to address this issue.

As I said before, I never purchased anything from phoenix gambling. Work similar to theirs served as a base for my script and if you compared those two you simply wouldnt be able to call them the same.
I recognize their right to sell it exclusively so I'm taking proper action by changing the frontend of my script since its the only indicator I'm selling their product - Im confident to say, code wise, mine is better.
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February 18, 2023, 02:02:35 PM
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention and clarifying the ownership of the demo script. Online. This will help many of us protect ourselves from getting scammed by this scammer. As for bugs and features, it's always beneficial to get feedback from users to improve the overall experience.


 

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February 18, 2023, 03:08:11 PM
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.



Thank you for coming down here and clarifying and verifying that you are the real owner of the script, I call this abuse, once we bought or subscribe from one software or script seller we should read the terms and abide by the terms set up by the seller @swaga should adhere to the advice of the seller of the script.
You are calling someone for abuse but you yourself abuse your limited use of the script you bought, you need to address this issue.

As I said before, I never purchased anything from phoenix gambling. Their work served as a base for my script and if you compared those two you simply wouldnt be able to call them the same.
I recognize their right to sell it exclusively so I'm taking proper action by changing the frontend of my script since its the only indicator I'm selling their product - Im confident to say, code wise, mine is better.



With this, I apologize but its good that you come down here to settle this concern right now the burden of proof is on phoenix-gambling to prove that the script you are using comes from their platform and you are reselling it but I guess account phoenix-gambling must prove first that he is the representative of Phoenix gambling, there are so many issues coming up I guess its time for all parties concern to show all proofs that the said script is their property and they own the rights.


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February 18, 2023, 05:09:29 PM
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.



Thank you for coming down here and clarifying and verifying that you are the real owner of the script, I call this abuse, once we bought or subscribe from one software or script seller we should read the terms and abide by the terms set up by the seller @swaga should adhere to the advice of the seller of the script.
You are calling someone for abuse but you yourself abuse your limited use of the script you bought, you need to address this issue.

As I said before, I never purchased anything from phoenix gambling. Their work served as a base for my script and if you compared those two you simply wouldnt be able to call them the same.
I recognize their right to sell it exclusively so I'm taking proper action by changing the frontend of my script since its the only indicator I'm selling their product - Im confident to say, code wise, mine is better.

You are such a fraud! How can you say that their product contains "serious bugs" if you have never bought or used their script? As far as I can see, the version of the script in question was never intended for public use or selling, as clearly stated in their Github repo.

Let's face it - You've taken someone else's product, made a few tweaks (supposedly), and tried to resell it. And now plan to market it as your own with a new frontend. But the thing is, you have no legitimate right to do so. On top of that, it seems like you have no problem slinging mud at the original developer.

It's pretty low to attack the original creator of the product you're essentially copying without any legal right to it. Instead of resorting to such underhanded tactics, why not invest your time and resources in developing your unique product that doesn't rely on copying someone else's hard work?
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February 18, 2023, 06:03:45 PM
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

Firstly, as you may already know, even if you purchased a license for our script, you are only allowed to use it for one domain name. Using the script for multiple domains without proper authorization is a violation of the license agreement. Any domain found to be using our scripts illegally will be reported to the relevant authorities and face legal sanctions.



Thank you for coming down here and clarifying and verifying that you are the real owner of the script, I call this abuse, once we bought or subscribe from one software or script seller we should read the terms and abide by the terms set up by the seller @swaga should adhere to the advice of the seller of the script.
You are calling someone for abuse but you yourself abuse your limited use of the script you bought, you need to address this issue.

As I said before, I never purchased anything from phoenix gambling. Their work served as a base for my script and if you compared those two you simply wouldnt be able to call them the same.
I recognize their right to sell it exclusively so I'm taking proper action by changing the frontend of my script since its the only indicator I'm selling their product - Im confident to say, code wise, mine is better.

You are such a fraud! How can you say that their product contains "serious bugs" if you have never bought or used their script? As far as I can see, the version of the script in question was never intended for public use or selling, as clearly stated in their Github repo.

Let's face it - You've taken someone else's product, made a few tweaks (supposedly), and tried to resell it. And now plan to market it as your own with a new frontend. But the thing is, you have no legitimate right to do so. On top of that, it seems like you have no problem slinging mud at the original developer.

It's pretty low to attack the original creator of the product you're essentially copying without any legal right to it. Instead of resorting to such underhanded tactics, why not invest your time and resources in developing your unique product that doesn't rely on copying someone else's hard work?


I don't know if you're capable of reading and understanding english so I'll say it again but much slower.

Firstly.
I claimed the version I used as a base had bugs. That is true and if you're tech savy you can check that for yourself. The link to free version is in ph-gambling's first response.
Also, I just happen to know a few guys who bought a legit version of win5x and they themselves said "it's bugged as hell!"
Also also, if you go to original win5x demo site you can find those bugs yourself.

Secondly.
If fixing 70+ bugs and adding 60% custom code is "making a few tweaks" then sure I made a few tweaks.
I plan to market it as my own since it is my own. Given enough code is changed Im allowed to call it my own. If you don't like it i suggest you to click the X in the upper right corner of your browser.

Lastly.

Original creators or not, people who sell win5x sell garbage and they're mad because I took their garbage and fixed it.
I don't sell their work - not even they're able to make a living selling it  Grin Grin

So my suggestion is to calm down and go do something productive instead of writing a load of chatgpt assisted replies on here.
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February 18, 2023, 06:29:51 PM
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This thread is turning into something.

I think it is ethical to give a credit to the original code creator if you somehow "tweaked" the original version of it even if it's full of bug. I'm not disregarding the 60% of the custom code you added but it will be unfair to the original creator that you have improved it with or without the intention of selling it in the future.

I even started selling it for dirt cheap to motivate myself to keep going and to be able to pay others to help me a bit.
It's just phoenix-gambling had commented on this thread and turn things upside down. I think it would be nice to create a original code with the custom code you have added with their code and getting rid the code and the resemblance of phoenix-gambling, Front-end and back-end wise. This way, The phoenix-gambling can't claim anything that it's from them and your future buyers will have a confidence on what they are buying. Actually this issue will also be an issue to your future buyers given that phoenix-gambling is claiming something and the worst can be a law suit if the casino somehow succeed.

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February 18, 2023, 06:41:45 PM
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This thread is turning into something.

I think it is ethical to give a credit to the original code creator if you somehow "tweaked" the original version of it even if it's full of bug. I'm not disregarding the 60% of the custom code you added but it will be unfair to the original creator that you have improved it with or without the intention of selling it in the future.

I even started selling it for dirt cheap to motivate myself to keep going and to be able to pay others to help me a bit.
It's just phoenix-gambling had commented on this thread and turn things upside down. I think it would be nice to create a original code with the custom code you have added with their code and getting rid the code and the resemblance of phoenix-gambling, Front-end and back-end wise. This way, The phoenix-gambling can't claim anything that it's from them and your future buyers will have a confidence on what they are buying. Actually this issue will also be an issue to your future buyers given that phoenix-gambling is claiming something and the worst can be a law suit if the casino somehow succeed.

My original idea was to start with a base and gradually turn it into 100% my own thing. It's much easier to start when you have a base, no matter what it is.
The problem is people in this forum would rather argue. That's fine by me as I know what my final goal is
Their fixation on the fact I managed to sell a couple of these is making it impossible to talk to them about the bigger picture and the point I wanted to make.

People need and deserve better casino software - at least better than what is currently being sold for $2k by you-know-who.
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February 18, 2023, 07:45:36 PM
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This thread is turning into something.

I think it is ethical to give a credit to the original code creator if you somehow "tweaked" the original version of it even if it's full of bug. I'm not disregarding the 60% of the custom code you added but it will be unfair to the original creator that you have improved it with or without the intention of selling it in the future.

I even started selling it for dirt cheap to motivate myself to keep going and to be able to pay others to help me a bit.
It's just phoenix-gambling had commented on this thread and turn things upside down. I think it would be nice to create a original code with the custom code you have added with their code and getting rid the code and the resemblance of phoenix-gambling, Front-end and back-end wise. This way, The phoenix-gambling can't claim anything that it's from them and your future buyers will have a confidence on what they are buying. Actually this issue will also be an issue to your future buyers given that phoenix-gambling is claiming something and the worst can be a law suit if the casino somehow succeed.

My original idea was to start with a base and gradually turn it into 100% my own thing. It's much easier to start when you have a base, no matter what it is.
The problem is people in this forum would rather argue. That's fine by me as I know what my final goal is
Their fixation on the fact I managed to sell a couple of these is making it impossible to talk to them about the bigger picture and the point I wanted to make.

People need and deserve better casino software - at least better than what is currently being sold for $2k by you-know-who.
I agree, that it is much more easier that you have something on hand to start with like a base code or something but selling it with the hint of the original coder is the one I'm pertaining to. If I'm a buyer and I found my casino that is somehow similar to other casino's and worst than that similar for multiple casino, The gamblers of my casino would certainly notice it given the fact that they might be in trouble for playing on a possible clone or scam casino. This would certainly reflect on me negatively as a buyer of the casino code that you are selling.

People always deserve better especially if they are paying the right price for it but this doesn't mean you can sell the original code with improvements and on a lower prices. A wise buyer do always care for the quality,  originality and the future of the code they are buying. They won't buying something that would bring them trouble such as having a suit case for plagiarism or something about legal right. This is why I suggest to create a new code intended for selling with the custom codes that you have created.

I just feel sorry for the ones who bought the code from phoenix-gambling if you are telling the truth about so many bugs in it.

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February 18, 2023, 07:49:32 PM
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    -   I don't think you are wrong to ask about things like that OP because there are many communities here who have been on the forum for a long time and can help with the answer you are looking for.

I also think that you can improve your website platform even more to get more community gamblers in this forum for sure in the future.
In addition to this is that many gambling sites like casinos and sportsbook have forum account which is another way for their gamblers to contact them if there's an issue or problem that a gambler is experiencing on the their site. I won't disagree with you no matter what that Bitcointalk forum is where many people gather sharing experiences, ideas, suggestions and many more. This one is already an example of it where OP planning to start a gambling site and wants us to share some ideas and also hug hunting on OP's website to fix or remove.

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February 18, 2023, 07:59:25 PM
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This thread is turning into something.

I think it is ethical to give a credit to the original code creator if you somehow "tweaked" the original version of it even if it's full of bug. I'm not disregarding the 60% of the custom code you added but it will be unfair to the original creator that you have improved it with or without the intention of selling it in the future.

I even started selling it for dirt cheap to motivate myself to keep going and to be able to pay others to help me a bit.
It's just phoenix-gambling had commented on this thread and turn things upside down. I think it would be nice to create a original code with the custom code you have added with their code and getting rid the code and the resemblance of phoenix-gambling, Front-end and back-end wise. This way, The phoenix-gambling can't claim anything that it's from them and your future buyers will have a confidence on what they are buying. Actually this issue will also be an issue to your future buyers given that phoenix-gambling is claiming something and the worst can be a law suit if the casino somehow succeed.

My original idea was to start with a base and gradually turn it into 100% my own thing. It's much easier to start when you have a base, no matter what it is.
The problem is people in this forum would rather argue. That's fine by me as I know what my final goal is
Their fixation on the fact I managed to sell a couple of these is making it impossible to talk to them about the bigger picture and the point I wanted to make.

People need and deserve better casino software - at least better than what is currently being sold for $2k by you-know-who.
I agree, that it is much more easier that you have something on hand to start with like a base code or something but selling it with the hint of the original coder is the one I'm pertaining to. If I'm a buyer and I found my casino that is somehow similar to other casino's and worst than that similar for multiple casino, The gamblers of my casino would certainly notice it given the fact that they might be in trouble for playing on a possible clone or scam casino. This would certainly reflect on me negatively as a buyer of the casino code that you are selling.

People always deserve better especially if they are paying the right price for it but this doesn't mean you can sell the original code with improvements and on a lower prices. A wise buyer do always care for the quality,  originality and the future of the code they are buying. They won't buying something that would bring them trouble such as having a suit case for plagiarism or something about legal right. This is why I suggest to create a new code intended for selling with the custom codes that you have created.

I just feel sorry for the ones who bought the code from phoenix-gambling if you are telling the truth about so many bugs in it.

That's exactly what's going to happen eventually. I will change the code over time. In the last 4-5 months I've changed 60% of it so I don't see what the big deal is.
Everyone whos ever bought any code from me knew in advance what they were buying. No one sent me a message, paid me money and expected to get 100% custom made casino.

I will, if need be, contact the people who bought real win5x from phoenix gambling and ask them to write their reviews here. I stand behind what I said - Their code is a buggy mess that's not worth $2000 pricetag.
However this is free market and they're free to do so - just like I'm free to use their free version to make my own casino.
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February 18, 2023, 09:19:12 PM
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That's exactly what's going to happen eventually. I will change the code over time. In the last 4-5 months I've changed 60% of it so I don't see what the big deal is.
Everyone whos ever bought any code from me knew in advance what they were buying. No one sent me a message, paid me money and expected to get 100% custom made casino.

I will, if need be, contact the people who bought real win5x from phoenix gambling and ask them to write their reviews here. I stand behind what I said - Their code is a buggy mess that's not worth $2000 pricetag.
However this is free market and they're free to do so - just like I'm free to use their free version to make my own casino.
I believe that you can do create your own original code by yourself given that you have debugged a messy original code. Debugging is kinda annoying and It surely proves that you have skills in coding. I hope that your buyers knows what kind of products they got or hope that they understand what they are buying.

There could be a potential damage to phoenix-gambling if ever there are buyers who showed up here and post their feedbacks. Let's just hope that this situation won't backfire on your end.

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I believe that you can do create your own original code by yourself given that you have debugged a messy original code. Debugging is kinda annoying and It surely proves that you have skills in coding. I hope that your buyers knows what kind of products they got or hope that they understand what they are buying.

There could be a potential damage to phoenix-gambling if ever there are buyers who showed up here and post their feedbacks. Let's just hope that this situation won't backfire on your end.

But first phoenix gambling should prove first that he is part of the phoenix-gambling platform https://phoenix-gambling.com/ by doing what LoyceV is asking of him like what @swaga did to his website, this conversation or discussion is useless if he cannot first establish that he is part of the team since he has an accusation against OP.

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February 18, 2023, 11:14:40 PM
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My original idea was to start with a base and gradually turn it into 100% my own thing. It's much easier to start when you have a base, no matter what it is.

Well, there is nothing inherently problematic about that approach, as it is a common practice among developers. However, I do have some reservations about your ethical stance.

The problem is people in this forum would rather argue. That's fine by me as I know what my final goal is
Their fixation on the fact I managed to sell a couple of these is making it impossible to talk to them about the bigger picture and the point I wanted to make.

The problem is that you seem unwilling to acknowledge and attribute credit to those who rightfully deserve it, while simultaneously attempting to take ownership of something that is not yours. Essentially, this behavior could be considered a form of theft.

People need and deserve better casino software - at least better than what is currently being sold for $2k by you-know-who.

While it may indeed be true, but do you not believe that it is equally important to acknowledge and give some credit to the original developers for their work? After all, you are still utilizing their code, correct? Besides, if you believe that people deserve better software, why not adhere to the principles of Open Source and publicly release the source code along with your modifications and bug fixes, just like others do? That is how Open Source should work.

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February 18, 2023, 11:38:57 PM
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My original idea was to start with a base and gradually turn it into 100% my own thing. It's much easier to start when you have a base, no matter what it is.

Well, there is nothing inherently problematic about that approach, as it is a common practice among developers. However, I do have some reservations about your ethical stance.

The problem is people in this forum would rather argue. That's fine by me as I know what my final goal is
Their fixation on the fact I managed to sell a couple of these is making it impossible to talk to them about the bigger picture and the point I wanted to make.

The problem is that you seem unwilling to acknowledge and attribute credit to those who rightfully deserve it, while simultaneously attempting to take ownership of something that is not yours. Essentially, this behavior could be considered a form of theft.

People need and deserve better casino software - at least better than what is currently being sold for $2k by you-know-who.

While it may indeed be true, but do you not believe that it is equally important to acknowledge and give some credit to the original developers for their work? After all, you are still utilizing their code, correct? Besides, if you believe that people deserve better software, why not adhere to the principles of Open Source and publicly release the source code along with your modifications and bug fixes, just like others do? That is how Open Source should work.


I'll say two things and two things only and after that you may be the judge on whether or not I "acknowledged and attributed" to original devs.

First thing being: Whoever bought any code from me knew, in advance - before making a purchase, about original devs and their prices.
Second thing being: I have forwarded two paying customers (and about 40 non paying) to our dear phoenix-gambling instead of selling them my code. Those two people alone raked them more than $4000 in profit.

If that's not enough "acknowledgement" then so be it.
If you want those two people to come here and confirm what I'm saying sure, that's possible too.
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Dear swaga,

It has come to our attention that you are attempting to sell a script online without the proper license or permission from us, the original author. This is a serious offense and can have legal consequences.

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Sincerely,
Phoenix Gambling

Thank you for making your message about this not beautiful situation, too, yesterday I looked at github comments from the script developers Adam and Klaus and thought that it was a big mistake to use the script for commercial purposes without having permission from the developers, besides with a possible backdoor. But I would like to make sure that you really are a developer, there are too many layers around a freely distributed script.

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