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October 11, 2023, 11:36:02 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2023, 01:38:25 AM by degika
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here also real coder , there too much more
You are like golddigger. - he never told you about price, never asked you some money exchange of selling your work / just try to help you until we finds out you are real reseller
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This guy just shortened the delay timer in plinko code - guess who says that ?
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October 12, 2023, 09:37:19 PM
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You're very fast to accuse someone of lying, a true sign of an intellectual.

Thanks for the compliment. Yes, I've successfully demonstrated that you don't seem to have any issues with lying, twisting facts, and not being entirely straightforward. Or do you wish to deny these statements?

Let me paint you a picture here since you maybe don't understand the written word:

If i find a broken car in the middle of the road, all rusty and dusty and I take it home and fix it and then try to sell it -> IS THAT CAR MINE OR SOMEONE ELSES?

If you find a broken car in the middle of the road, it doesn't automatically become yours. It's still someone else's property. I'm not sure where you live, but this analogy gives off major "dodgy neighborhood in a big city" vibes. You know, the kind where you can't even leave your car unattended for a hot minute without risking losing it, or at least the wheels!  Cheesy

But this actually explains a lot. If you hold property rights in such low regard, it's not surprising that intellectual property doesn't get much of your attention either.

If i find an abandoned dog in a cardboard box and I take it home and it grows old with me -> IS THAT MY DOG OR SOMEONE ELSES?

Basically, it's the same situation as with a car. You're assuming the dog is abandoned, but that doesn't grant you the right of ownership. What if the dog is just lost, and the real owner is still looking for it?

/Once more, I'll skip a chunk of your text, which, imho, seems quite irrelevant or just a rehash of those wrong assumptions I've already explained for you./

So, let's make it clear once and for all.
The source code that I used as a base - WAS PUBLISHED ONLINE FOR ALL TO SEE WITHOUT ANY "LICENCES" - I took the source code and fixed it (made it useable).
Unless the REAL OWNER can come here and prove their ownership + forbid me from selling it I will not stop selling it.

And I'll explain to you once again, that's not how software licenses work. I don't know what you still don't understand. Even if you stumble upon the source code floating around on the internet, it doesn't automatically grant you the right to use it as you please. Without a license, it defaults to "all rights reserved."

You can read more about it here: Is my code FLOSS just because it is published it on GitHub?, or simply read the GitHub help pages: Licensing a repository

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You're under no obligation to choose a license. However, without a license, the default copyright laws apply, meaning that you retain all rights to your source code and no one may reproduce, distribute, or create derivative works from your work.


If the source code in question WAS in fact owned by "phoenix gambling" it would not be able to stand still on github for over 3 years - phoenix would be able to take it down.
WHY DON'T THEY TAKE IT DOWN THEN???

Why on earth would they take down their own repository? Phoenix gambling (win5x) has made it abundantly clear why they made their source code public. But, you should understand that making source code public doesn't equate to giving up their copyright.

And if all this is not enough - here's a little trick we'll do.
I will NOT sell the base source code - I will give it out for free.
I will only sell updates for the free source code.

Does that work or am I not even allowed to sell 100% my own code, your Honor?

It's actually not a bad idea at all! I'm glad you're finally starting to understand. But there's a bit more to it. It depends on the specifics of your software's licensing. If the original code has certain open-source or free-to-use components, giving it out for free is typically fine, but selling updates or derivative works might be a grey area. It's not about not being allowed to sell your own code, it's about whether you can use the original code in that way. There are different kinds of software licenses, and I'm sure you're aware of that, which tell you what you can and can't do with the code. It all boils down to what the original author says and whether they're okay with it.

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October 12, 2023, 11:01:44 PM
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It all boils down to what the original author says and whether they're okay with it.

In that case we shall wait for the original author to show up, I'm completely fine with that outcome.

Now have you planned to comment on the OP's scummy ways or is that outside your jurisdiction, your honor?
If not, I'd suggest we end the discussion until the original author shows up.
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October 12, 2023, 11:39:28 PM
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It all boils down to what the original author says and whether they're okay with it.

In that case we shall wait for the original author to show up, I'm completely fine with that outcome.

So I take it that you will stop illegally selling a script you don't own the copyright to until you get the green light from the original author?

Why wait for authors to show up here? They have their contact information right there on their official website, and you can also reach out to them via their GitHub profile. This would definitely be a quicker and more straightforward means of communication.

Now have you planned to comment on the OP's scummy ways or is that outside your jurisdiction, your honor?
If not, I'd suggest we end the discussion until the original author shows up.

One thing at a time...

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October 13, 2023, 09:21:18 AM
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Why wait for authors to show up here? They have their contact information right there on their official website, and you can also reach out to them via their GitHub profile. This would definitely be a quicker and more straightforward means of communication.


One thing I still don't understand is why do you think they're original authors?

I'm genuinely curious would the real authors have over 10 scam reports on them (just the ones I know of)?
If you don't believe me about the scam reports I'll gladly contact those people to testify here, or ill just post screenshots.

Bbout the "illegal" selling of the code: I will continue to sell updates to the code. You can see it as form of DLC. You know for example "The crash that actually works - DLC"
or if you don't like the word DLC, how about mods?

And if all that is not enough, I won't sell anything, I will simply take donations and maybe give out some of my own DLCs for free.
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Hi the download link is not working
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October 22, 2023, 11:24:12 AM
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What a complicated web we weave ..... Roll Eyes

Who is the original developer of the code and did he give consent that his work could be sold? We cannot just take someone else's original code and then do some updates and start selling it, without their consent.

A buyer of the code can also not re-sell the code or even give it out for FREE, if he or she is not the owner of that code. So, both of you are in the wrong with this one....

My advice will be to get the inputs from the original owner of the code and to find out if it is public domain or proprietary ownership.  Wink

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We decide to share to public, including installation document.
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Then why are you exposing others to this wallet drainer? This is a textbook example of how a wallet drainer scammers operate. I am not sure how gullible you think people in here are, but no one in their right mind would ever download or open any zip files from you. So you are targeting gullible greedy people. Which are probably broke already so i don't even get how this tactic works.

I won't touch either the zip file, i won't visit the site, nor i would touch this weird drama op is having with himself with his second account.

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October 22, 2023, 05:12:14 PM
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We decide to share to public, including installation document.
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Then why are you exposing others to this wallet drainer? This is a textbook example of how a wallet drainer scammers operate. I am not sure how gullible you think people in here are, but no one in their right mind would ever download or open any zip files from you. So you are targeting gullible greedy people. Which are probably broke already so i don't even get how this tactic works.

I won't touch either the zip file, i won't visit the site, nor i would touch this weird drama op is having with himself with his second account.
Some member thinks that this forum is so full of members who doesn't know any thing as regards to security,  mean while our main concern here in the forum is sharing knowledge most especially knowledge on how best to secure ourselves and what we should look out for at all time and in as much as I know,  is very rear to see any member of this forum paying any attention on external link shared,  most especially links that require you to download any file.

Because we are well aware of the risk associated with such things as link,  since hackers and scamers use that methods to penetrate into someone account.
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As we bought from one guy, he toke money and never install that script/service.
We decide to share to public, including installation document.
Demo : https://demoscript.online/
Note - do not buy from them, when they get money , they never answer or asking more money...
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Hello again everyone. Once again we accidentally came across a similar topic. I want to say that you are all scammers and want to get easy money for our free version. If you want to get the same thing - what these people are selling, download our free version in Github without backdoors and scam. @LoyceV asked us to confirm that this account is official, no problem. Please assign our account the status of the rightful owner so that we can expose such sellers. https://phoenix-gambling.com/Bitcointalk.txt

And yet, when you already understand that you will never buy a high-quality script for $100, and even more so if you are planning to open sites with such a budget, you are fools.
You can always contact the official developers. Let me tell you that 99 percent of what is sold on this forum is our free version.
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February 15, 2024, 07:40:00 PM
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SCAM ALERT

This guy has scammed me, first he blocked me after I paid with Bitcoin and then he unblocked me to request more money, I have lost more than $500. STAY ALERT WITH THIS SELLER, TELEGRAM SCAM.

In the end he gave me a Casino Script that sucks and is not developed by him, it is from another developer, that is, he has delivered an old non-functional version. COMFIRMED SCAM.

He is also using this profile to scam people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819139

And this is the sales thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416980.0
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February 15, 2024, 08:09:56 PM
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SCAM ALERT

This guy has scammed me, first he blocked me after I paid with Bitcoin and then he unblocked me to request more money, I have lost more than $500. STAY ALERT WITH THIS SELLER, TELEGRAM SCAM.

In the end he gave me a Casino Script that sucks and is not developed by him, it is from another developer, that is, he has delivered an old non-functional version. COMFIRMED SCAM.

He is also using this profile to scam people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819139

And this is the sales thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416980.0

Thanks for the warning erickbtc.

Feel free to use the trust system on the forum and leave negative feedback on the user profile if you get scammed, that way users will be careful while making deals with him again.

Sorry for the loss, but remember, this kind of software isn't cheap at all, no one will sell you a crypto casino for $500. That's just too good to be real.

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February 17, 2024, 10:23:51 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2024, 12:35:38 AM by swaga
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SCAM ALERT

This guy has scammed me, first he blocked me after I paid with Bitcoin and then he unblocked me to request more money, I have lost more than $500. STAY ALERT WITH THIS SELLER, TELEGRAM SCAM.

In the end he gave me a Casino Script that sucks and is not developed by him, it is from another developer, that is, he has delivered an old non-functional version. COMFIRMED SCAM.

He is also using this profile to scam people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819139

And this is the sales thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416980.0

Thanks for the warning erickbtc.

Feel free to use the trust system on the forum and leave negative feedback on the user profile if you get scammed, that way users will be careful while making deals with him again.

Sorry for the loss, but remember, this kind of software isn't cheap at all, no one will sell you a crypto casino for $500. That's just too good to be real.

User is an alt of Softhodl. Check my scam report on those two for proof.
Also make sure to check their webshop - it's full of nonsense and is clearly a scam.

Quite sad to see such a seasoned member agree with a scam accusation without seeing ANY proof.
If I scammed anyone - send me chat logs + txid of transaction and I'll look into it.
Funny how his accusations started the same day I exposed Softhodl as a scamming webshop.

Ive left you a neutral feedback. Will delete after you look into this. Agreeing with someone accusing other person of scamming with 0 proof is ridiculous.
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