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February 22, 2023, 02:59:40 PM
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Personal Note: I found this article and after reading, i found it very interesting so i decided to share it with the gambling community here.
Before we dive into the main business of this thread, Please Take Note of the following:

1. The Subject of this topic [5 Ways to Make Big Money at the Casino — Without Gambling] is just for fun, Don't try any of the acts on the list below, on any casino, as if you do and you are caught Grin, it is a serious crime that could land you in serious trouble.
2. This thread was copied word for word from the source, if you wish to see the original source of this thread, do so by clicking HERE.
3. Now, Relax, Read and Enjoy Wink


5 Ways to Make a Fortune at the Casino — Without Gambling

If you go to the casino and gamble, you will lose. Don’t tell us about how you used to count cards before they installed automatic shufflers or how you beat several other gamblers at poker — we’re talking about gambling against the house, using house rules, and if you do this, you will lose. Even if you stumbled into a hot streak or hit a jackpot and got rich, that doesn’t prove us wrong. You didn’t win money because you gambled. You won money because you stopped gambling. If you stuck around long enough afterward, you would have lost it all.

However, that doesn’t mean you can’t get any money out of a casino. After all, the place is absolutely bursting with money. People have tried a few alternative methods, with varying degrees of success, for getting their hands on that cash, such as the idea to...


5. Bring in a Bomb


On August 26, 1980, three men dressed as deliverymen arrived at Harvey’s, a casino by Lake Tahoe in Nevada. They rolled with them some huge machine, covered in a cloth labeled “IBM.” They were dropping off a new photocopier to one of the offices in the adjoining hotel, they said. Though the men were secretly criminals infiltrating the place, the box did not contain one member of the gang who sought to slip into the vault. It contained a thousand pounds of dynamite.

A note beside the bomb warned that if anyone tried moving it after the men set it in place, it would explode. If anyone tried opening it, it would explode. If anyone tried drilling into it, it would explode. These claims appeared to be true, concluded the bomb squad when they showed up and X-rayed the device. The thing had a complex network of wires and eight different firing systems. The only way to avoid the bomb exploding, claimed the note, was to deliver $3 million to a drop-off point. If they did that, the hotel would receive instructions on how to safely separate the bomb from its base, so they could truck it out and dispose of it elsewhere.

The FBI went to the drop-off, which is their usual method of catching extortionists. The guy didn’t show. It would later turn out that the bomber (John Birges, a man bitter after having lost $750,000 gambling at Harvey’s) had screwed up the directions. The bomb technicians therefore decided they had to try to defuse the bomb on their own, no matter how hard it seemed. They evacuated the building just in case their efforts failed, and then they remotely fired a charge at the box in hopes of neatly splitting its modules apart. The bomb detonated.


It blasted through five floors of the hotel. Outside, people cheered because no one died and explosions are cool. Harvey’s might have been a little dissatisfied, since the explosion did some $18 million worth of damage to the property, rather more than the ransom would have cost. It also blew through a wall of the attached casino, but as investigators crawled over this wreckage, Harvey’s kept the remainder of the casino open. They had to make that $18 million back somehow.

The FBI caught Birges thanks to a tip from his son’s girlfriend. He received a life sentence, and the two other guys who’d wheeled the bomb in — who, it turned out, really were deliverymen — received sentences, too. You’ll notice that as flawless as the bomb plot might have sounded, it did not in fact end with the perp walking away with a fortune. Still, if you’ve ever talked about wanting to “do a little damage at the casino,” you can’t do much better than John Birges.



4. Sue The Casino


This next story does begin with someone gambling. It even begins with a win. Choo Hong Eng, a 58-year-old manager of a vegetarian chain of restaurants, went to play the slots at Singapore’s Marina Bay Sands resort in 2011. The building is a famous and very weird part of the city’s skyline. It has three towers, topped with a skyway that looks like a cruise ship, and the whole thing is also supposed to look like decks of cards, though we admit we don’t see it.

Eng hit the jackpot. She won $416,000. Then, when she went over to management to find out exactly how they hand over a payout that big, they told her that there had been an error. The slot machine was faulty, so her win was invalid. They could give her a smaller cash payout, maybe. Or they could give her a car. She could even sell the car back to them afterward, in exchange for some other smaller cash payout. That last option sounds downright suspicious, and we’d need a team of accountants to explain why the casino offered it.

As promised, this story began with someone gambling, and we suppose that the next step was also a gamble. Eng had a choice between accepting the (still quite valuable) consolation gift or fighting for the full win. If this were some morally instructive tale, you’d be yelling at her to choose the bird in the hand. The universe has a way of punishing anyone who holds out due to greed.

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On the other hand, we aren’t huge fans of the “don’t be greedy” maxim. We prefer a different one, which says, “Take from them what they owe you.” And so, Eng lawyered up. The matter reached the Gambling Regulatory Authority, which reviewed a bunch of surveillance footage and concluded that she was indeed owed every penny of the original win. No word on whether they also fined Marina Bay for trying to cheat their way out of the payment, but we’ll take what victories we can get.

After getting her win, it turned out that Eng did subscribe to the “don’t be greedy” idea after all. She pledged to give half the winnings to charity. Then she went and gave away the whole thing, to groups like the Singapore Buddhist Federation and the National Kidney Foundation. The restaurant biz pays well, it seems, so she didn’t need the money. This legal fight was all about the principle (and $440,000 adds up to a lot of principal).



3. Kidnap the Owner’s Daughter


Ocean’s Eleven contains a line referencing a real-life casino crime. Andy Garcia tells Brad Pitt, “If you should be picked up buying a $100,000 sports car in Newport Beach, I'm going to be extremely disappointed.” In 1994, an ex-circus performer named Ray Cuddy was arrested paying cash for a sports car, after successfully nabbing over $1 million from a casino. The crime that got him his money, though, wasn’t quite Ocean levels of cool.

One July night, Cuddy and his accomplices broke into the home of Kevyn Wynn, daughter of Vegas casino mogul Steve Wynn. The plan was to ransom her for $2.5 million. Just in case Steve didn’t buy classic kidnapper threats (e.g., “Pay up, or we start cutting off fingers”), they tried something else to ensure that he followed their rules. They had Kevyn strip to her underpants, taped her eyes shut and took photos of her, so they could threaten to release those publicly if Steve called the police.

Steve Wynn did not call the police — not at first, anyway. He already had his own private security team, led by the former head of the Las Vegas FBI. He also had a vault full of money, so he could put together some cash stacks without any time-consuming trips to the bank. He did negotiate with the kidnappers about just how much money he could assemble on short notice. He talked them down to $1.45 million, dropped the money off at a parking lot that Cuddy specified, then went to another lot to collect a bound Kevyn from her car.


At this point, the Wynns did bring the authorities in. They looked at call records from pay phones near the drop-off point, and they cross-referenced the people who those numbers called against license plates sighted in the area. This drew them to Cuddy, who was also doing a pretty good job drawing attention to himself by bringing cash stacks to an auto dealership to buy a Ferrari in installments. The next time he showed up there, 14 agents awaited him.

So, Cuddy didn’t get to enjoy his haul for that long. He was sentenced to 24 years for extortion, conspiracy, using a weapon in commission of a crime and money laundering. We’d think that forcing someone to strip and photographing them would merit an additional charge, but maybe legislators had neglected to ink that specific offense into law.



2. Hack a Fish Tank


If you’re thinking about pulling off a casino heist, you’re probably hoping to walk out with cash. Cash isn’t the only sort of valuable stuff that the place stocks, however. A big casino will also store a more modern type of currency: customer data.

Data broking is an industry worth hundreds of billions of dollars. While your own personal data may be worth just a modest amount, advertisers are a lot more interested in the identities of casino high rollers. These are people who spend big and have poor impulse control. A list of every single such person in a casino’s records could be worth a fair bit to the right buyer.

A casino should secure its electronics just as tightly as it secures its vault. But one hacker found a strange backdoor. A cybersecurity firm who spoke at a Wall Street Journal conference revealed that they once investigated how a casino got breached, and they discovered that the culprit was the lobby aquarium.

This tank’s temperature was controlled by a smart device that had internet access. It logged on to the same network as the place’s computers but didn’t have its own network safeguards. By hacking the fish tank, someone got into the network and uploaded the customer database via the thermometer.

The hacking community has a name for this specific type of attack: It’s called phishing.



1. Just Rob the Place  Grin.


In 2010, Tony Carleo lost just about all he had gambling. Much like John Birges (the bomb guy we talked about earlier), he decided to take it all back and more, by force. On December 14th, he headed into the Bellagio in Las Vegas and pulled out a gun when he reached the high-limit craps table. Then he shoved all the chips on the table in his backpack, dashed out of the building and zoomed away on a motorbike. In the days to come, people would call the masked man the Biker Bandit.


Video clip of robbery suspect fleeing the Bellagio

Carleo had gotten away with $1.5 million in chips. He’d be a rich man, if he could convert the chips to cash. About $1 million of the haul was in $25,000 chips, and converting these would be especially tricky. Hardly anyone ever won those chips, so walking up to a Bellagio counter and asking to cash those out would raise eyebrows, even if the casino hadn’t just been robbed. The remaining chips, however, he figured he could successfully exchange for regular U.S. legal tender, so long as he spaced it out.

So, Carleo returned to the very casino he’d robbed. He played poker, cashed out considerably more chips than he’d won and attracted no suspicion in the process. He moved on to craps, to that same high-limit table he’d visited before while armed, and he played for hours. Then casino staff took him aside. Not to arrest him, no. They wanted to comp him a dinner and a suite.


Bellagio

He now had a sort of base of operations so he could conveniently keep going back to the casino floor every day. This is, of course, the reason casinos give winners meals and rooms — to keep them around longer so they can lose whatever they won. In Carleo’s case, he wasn’t actually trying to win when gambling; he was just putting in his hours so he could head to the cashier later and turn in the chips he’d brought to the floor in his pocket. Still, playing for so long, and so recklessly since it didn’t feel like he was using real money, drained his chips away.

What money he did cash out, he spent. He spent it on drugs and on paid companionship (he said he paid one woman for a four-hour hand job, which doesn’t sound like much fun for anyone involved). It’s possible that these dealers and sex workers also accepted payment in chips. By New Year’s, he had run through just about all of the small denomination chips. This still left him with $1 million, if he could figure out how to cash out those big $25,000 chips.



Like all who are truly lost, Carleo turned to the internet. He went to a poker forum and dropped some hints that he had chips he wanted to trade. He met a willing confederate, who claimed to be connected to the mob, and he did manage to exchange a few chips for cash through him. Only after the first few exchanges did he realize the mafia dude was really an undercover cop, which explained why a dozen officers were at the next meetup and Carleo was now in cuffs.

He received a three-year sentence for the robbery — and then an additional six-to-16-year sentence, since this robbery let authorities link him to an earlier robbery of his. This makes Carleo yet another story of someone who got himself some casino winnings but didn’t manage to hold on to them. In fact, he’d never stood a real chance of cashing those $25,000 chips out. The Bellagio discontinued them right after he’d stolen them. He should have just dumped those. Either that or offered the entire lot of them in exchange for a five-hour hand job.

THE END

Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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February 22, 2023, 04:50:20 PM
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^ Carleo could have just sold the $25k chip online and then ship it. Why he didn't think someone is actually tracking those chips I'm sure I don't know. FBI is even tracking guns or chainsaws used in crimes where serial numbers are altered. It also happened in 2010, and BTC already exists.

It would have been funnier if he sold the chips to someone inside the casino and then get away with it. Still not a happen ending for Carleo.

4th. Sue The Casino. There is a similar situation with Mrs. Choo Hong Eng where a woman won from slot also and the casino just told her the machine is faulty. The casino is just lucky because that woman has nothing to go lawyering against the casino. All these ways can bite you back with great consequences since it's not a victimless crime


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5. Bring in a Bomb

all that planning just to screw up on giving directions hahaha. kudos to the son's girlfriend for giving the police a tip on his whereabouts and I'm glad he got life imprisonment, he could have killed a lot of people for what he did. I wonder if Harvey got a lien on John Birge's property/s(if he ever had one) after doing all that damage on his casino.

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February 22, 2023, 05:17:54 PM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.

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February 22, 2023, 05:48:35 PM
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This is an interesting read. I think it should be titled 5 Ways to Make a Fortune at a land-based casino Casino — Without Gambling. Why because the stories here can only happen in a brick-and-mortar casino. The the fourth Way to make a fortune at a casino which is suing a casino caught my attention the most.

Some time ago I reported on this forum the story of a woman named Katrina Bookman who won $42,949,672 at a casino in Jamaica but won $43million but was offered a steak dinner instead of her winnings. This woman would later Sue the casino however she lost the case because the casino or really hard a law that said faulty machine voids winnings. That is the casino claimed that the machine was faulty for her to have one that huge amount of money. I read the story with so much pain in my heart and hurt knowing that this woman had been cheated. However I am glad that's the woman in the OP's story won the case.

I would like to chip in some ways which I think people can make money from an online casino without gambling.

  • be a provider of a game
  • develop a software that can be used in an online casino
  • be the contracted to build n an online casino website
  • Write articles for the online casino.

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February 22, 2023, 05:51:04 PM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..

I'm amazed at hos much luck this guy had.

He pulled out a robbery, wasn't caught, shot, recognized by anyone. They didn't have a drawing of his mug hanging at the doorway.

Then he came back, gambled there and nobody seemed to remember him

He was cashing out chips for days and still nothing, they were blind. Nobody seemed to notice that the guy wasn't buying the chips at the casino but coming with them already in his pocket.

He had a lot of fun, free meals, ladies, and it still wasn't enough, he had to keep trying his luck until it run out.

Those guys who kidnapped the girl were also really stupid. The first rule of every robbery is you stay low after.
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February 22, 2023, 05:57:53 PM
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There a things called "Investment"

If you have money and want to earn in "CASINO" business, then you investing on bankroll is the best option. I remember from "Top G Podcast" - Andrew Tate, he have experience opening a casino and partnership with some mafia.

He provided the money, casino to partnership with the mafia. He make a big money from that. ~XD

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The "Sue the Casino" story remembered me another story which was shared on the forum weeks or a month ago about a woman who also had won big on the jackpot of a land based casino, but had the prize denied, due to it being considered a glitch or bug from the machine. In compensation, the casino had offered only a dinner as consolation prize. And even after suing the casino, the woman still had her jackpot denied by the justice system.

At least on this case shared by OP the woman has received her full prize after suing the house. When gamblers face this kind of issue they have to be lucky in double: first to win the prize on the machine, and second to have their lawsuit on the hands of a judge who will grant them the reward after all.

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5. Bring in a Bomb

all that planning just to screw up on giving directions hahaha. kudos to the son's girlfriend for giving the police a tip on his whereabouts and I'm glad he got life imprisonment, he could have killed a lot of people for what he did. I wonder if Harvey got a lien on John Birge's property/s(if he ever had one) after doing all that damage on his casino.

there was no google waze yet during that time. 
if the casino knew the damage to the blast is $18M. the casino will rather give the $3M money to him.
the casino was still grateful to have reduced the cost to $15M, FBI gave back the $3M that is supposed to be for the bomber.









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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

Personally, I find the case "2. Hack a Fish Tank" to be the most intriguing.

While in today's era of growing digitization and internet of things (IoT) devices, the idea of hacking a fish tank may not appear significant, it was quite a revelation for many when this case was documented several years ago. This case demonstrates how even seemingly harmless devices, such as a fish tank, can be used as an entry point for cyber-attacks, and I consider this case to be the most entertaining and a remarkable demonstration of clever thinking by hackers.

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Both ways involve someone doing some illegal act and some with heavily bad consequences which can end up in a pretty tragic way.The only way to make money in the casino as they say is to not play in the casino and as such you don't risk your money so is the same as making money because you are keeping your money.What is being described in these 5 ways is some people who were crazy enough and had a lot of courage to take heavy risks to their life and that of their family,nothing fancy and never recommended to do in my opinion.I don't think some people in the forum are crazy enough to organize a kidnapping but maybe there are some who knows  Grin.

I only liked the 5th story as it had some intense adrenaline I assume for this guy,Corleo.

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4. Sue The Casino


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On the other hand, we aren’t huge fans of the “don’t be greedy” maxim. We prefer a different one, which says, “Take from them what they owe you.” And so, Eng lawyered up. The matter reached the Gambling Regulatory Authority, which reviewed a bunch of surveillance footage and concluded that she was indeed owed every penny of the original win. No word on whether they also fined Marina Bay for trying to cheat their way out of the payment, but we’ll take what victories we can get.

After getting her win, it turned out that Eng did subscribe to the “don’t be greedy” idea after all. She pledged to give half the winnings to charity. Then she went and gave away the whole thing, to groups like the Singapore Buddhist Federation and the National Kidney Foundation. The restaurant biz pays well, it seems, so she didn’t need the money. This legal fight was all about the principle (and $440,000 adds up to a lot of principal).
It's quite unfortunate that this is what most casino does, by trying to bypass paying gamblers their respective huge winnings, which is unfair, as I have happened to come across many complaints of people suing casinos simply because of refusal to pay their huge funds, of which the only excuse has always been as a result it's machine error, that is never supposed to be gamblers fault, because for the fact that that same casino allowed gamblers used that machine and lost funds, they should also be willing to pay users when they win too without any complaint.

But moreover, I'm happy this woman could manage get justice for her full payout of $440,000, and went about touching the lives of the less privileged and people in need.

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4. Sue The Casino


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On the other hand, we aren’t huge fans of the “don’t be greedy” maxim. We prefer a different one, which says, “Take from them what they owe you.” And so, Eng lawyered up. The matter reached the Gambling Regulatory Authority, which reviewed a bunch of surveillance footage and concluded that she was indeed owed every penny of the original win. No word on whether they also fined Marina Bay for trying to cheat their way out of the payment, but we’ll take what victories we can get.

After getting her win, it turned out that Eng did subscribe to the “don’t be greedy” idea after all. She pledged to give half the winnings to charity. Then she went and gave away the whole thing, to groups like the Singapore Buddhist Federation and the National Kidney Foundation. The restaurant biz pays well, it seems, so she didn’t need the money. This legal fight was all about the principle (and $440,000 adds up to a lot of principal).
It's quite unfortunate that this is what most casino does, by trying to bypass paying gamblers their respective huge winnings, which is unfair, as I have happened to come across many complaints of people suing casinos simply because of refusal to pay their huge funds, of which the only excuse has always been as a result it's machine error, that is never supposed to be gamblers fault, because for the fact that that same casino allowed gamblers used that machine and lost funds, they should also be willing to pay users when they win too without any complaint.

But moreover, I'm happy this woman could manage get justice for her full payout of $440,000, and went about touching the lives of the less privileged and people in need.

She is rich though and she only won $440,000.  But this woman who won almost $43M from a slot in resorts world was denied of her winnings after the casino claimed the machine malfunctions. I think they find it too much to give the $42M.

Fighting legally I think is the only way that works to make money at the casino without gambling but basically, Mrs. Choo Hong Eng gambles first until she encounters injustice. But it did worked for her than the rest who basically are just robbing from the casino.


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February 22, 2023, 07:20:17 PM
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There a things called "Investment"

If you have money and want to earn in "CASINO" business, then you investing on bankroll is the best option. I remember from "Top G Podcast" - Andrew Tate, he have experience opening a casino and partnership with some mafia.

He provided the money, casino to partnership with the mafia. He make a big money from that. ~XD
You are absolutely right, investing in a casinos bankroll is indeed a goldmine, but this is if the casino does well as a business.
And another big issue here is, finding the right casino to invest in, for this type of investment, it is preferable to find a casino that is just starting up, and since the future is so unpredictable, it is difficult funding a casino that one is sure would do well in the future, I believe this is one of the reasons why investing in casino bankrolls isnt a popular niche in the gambling industry.

How ever, this thread isnt really focused on legitimate ways through which gamblers can make money from casinos without gambling, but rather, it tells some story of some people that have device different ways they could extort money from casino, both legal ways and illegal way.

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February 22, 2023, 07:30:52 PM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?
Robbing, Hacking, Kidnapping, Suing and Bombing, the five ideas of earning money without gambling are all criminal acts, all of them are dealing with the law, I'm not sure after getting money in that way, whether the money can be enjoyed or vice versa we can enjoy life in prison or die.

Honestly, if you ask me and if i had the expertise of course i would choose number two (2), hacking, maybe it's something with a long process to catch us, at least we can enjoy the money without gambling, rich for a moment.

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February 22, 2023, 08:00:08 PM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?
Robbing, Hacking, Kidnapping, Suing and Bombing, the five ideas of earning money without gambling are all criminal acts, all of them are dealing with the law, I'm not sure after getting money in that way, whether the money can be enjoyed or vice versa we can enjoy life in prison or die.

Honestly, if you ask me and if i had the expertise of course i would choose number two (2), hacking, maybe it's something with a long process to catch us, at least we can enjoy the money without gambling, rich for a moment.

hacking is indeed a safer one in my opinion if you know how to secure your anonymity in the long run. other stories presented, you are exposing yourself to prison sentence. but of course, in real life, you won't do any of that act. much better to live at peace rather than being hunted by the authorities. so yeah, just look at this post in a funny way not a serious one.

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February 22, 2023, 08:07:11 PM
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Personal Note: I found this article and after reading, i found it very interesting so i decided to share it with the gambling community here.
Before we dive into the main business of this thread, Please Take Note of the following:

1. The Subject of this topic [5 Ways to Make Big Money at the Casino — Without Gambling] is just for fun, Don't try any of the acts on the list below, on any casino, as if you do and you are caught Grin, it is a serious crime that could land you in serious trouble.
2. This thread was copied word for word from the source, if you wish to see the original source of this thread, do so by clicking HERE.
3. Now, Relax, Read and Enjoy Wink



Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..

Some rather interesting insights there and good job for putting together an interesting article, although these days I wonder if it was written by an AI bot Wink What's most apparent to me and telling by the old photos in use, is that most of these were done back in the 80's and 90's when casino security was still blind in many ways compared to today. You're probably profiled and captured on at least a dozen different cameras before you even step foot in a casino car park these days and they will have all sorts of motion tracking to analyze your movements. Not to mention smart or serialized playing chips which would quickly shut down the situation in example number one. Definitely cool to see what people used to be able to do

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Definitely Carleo's is the most rollercoaster-y (if that's even a word) and funny as hell too. Just these people getting taken over by greed when they're supposed to have it all. He literally had the casino by the neck and would've gotten away with it too if not for his stupidity and greed taking over his mental. Still, he got it coming, no good comes from easy money as they say.

I'd say the most underwhelming has to be Birges. Imagine building a plot like that so thick a telephone book would be embarassed. Only to be cucked from your freedom by your son's girlfriend. Like I know that is damaging (and he probably got it coming for him as well) but to just be snitched out by someone you could've known so well is just something. Although I believe this snitching is in retaliation for idk abuse either on the son or to the girlfriend. Whatever mans, they deserve the time for their crimes.

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February 22, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..
Number #2

Hack a Fish-Tank.

Honestly, i didnt see one this coming and among the lists this had been the other way around which we cant see on these cases and the rest are those common probable situations that someone could
commit out like kidnapping casino owner daughter or bring some bomb or robbing the place. Speaking about #2 then it is really that the casino had been careless about it but whom had
thought that it would be targeted out or having the exploit for the hacker to access into the network? They had just let it slipped but a very unique way on accessing
out without being caught.

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I thought that I'd be getting a list like including, "be an affiliate and take referrals as much as you can".

But honestly, I was surprised to see that it's about those crimes that one may take and it's not just in the movies that's happening this. I think the most decent one is the suing portion.

Although the gambler had gambled there but with the situation, she has to sue the casino. If there are dishonest gamblers, there are for sure dishonest casinos too.

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I thought that I'd be getting a list like including, "be an affiliate and take referrals as much as you can".



Yeah this one also cross my mind and you can actually do that but what OP posted is something that anyone or gambler who is in their right mind will do, some of those that are on his list can land you in jail and you are desperate when you're going to do this.
I also don't recommend it if you still want to gamble all your life due to some of these things, I prefer a safe and legal one which is affiliate marketing.

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there was no google waze yet during that time.
it's not that hard giving out directions especially if you know the area.

if the casino knew the damage to the blast is $18M. the casino will rather give the $3M money to him.
they tried, but as it says in the article that the culprit messed up giving out directions, so they never met and were unable to "give" him the money and arrest him in the prosses.

the casino was still grateful to have reduced the cost to $15M, FBI gave back the $3M that is supposed to be for the bomber.
how was it reduced to $15M? the money that was supposed to be for the bomber came from the owner of the casino, right?

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I agree that these are interesting ways to make a fortune out of a casino without gambling. I still want to think that this ways can be classified or categorised into smart and dumb ways period for instance showing the casino is a smart way there is no repercussion on the individual however on the other hand robbing a casino is a dumb way to make a
fortune out of a casino without gambling the repercussions and the consequences would just be too much to bear. By the way who would ever think of robbing a casino?

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I agree that these are interesting ways to make a fortune out of a casino without gambling. I still want to think that this ways can be classified or categorised into smart and dumb ways period for instance showing the casino is a smart way there is no repercussion on the individual however on the other hand robbing a casino is a dumb way to make a fortune out of a casino without gambling the repercussions and the consequences would just be too much to bear. By the way who would ever think of robbing a casino?

Yeah, dumb ways to make money out of casino without playing you'll do this out of desperation just like point number one where the perpetrator loses a huge amount of money, so instead of chasing his losses or quitting he takes it to a different level and this is by taking the casino hostage, he almost gets away with the crime but without the money.

The lesson here is there is no illegal way to make money from casinos that will not succeed, the casino has huge money and they will go after you except for point number two where the winner sued the casino and recover his winnings.

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They are all very risky moves to get money from a casino because if you get caught,you might wrath in jail. I will prefer option number four that of Choo Yung Eng, Since I loved what she  did, she made the casino made pay for her wins,no matter all the other less offers that was given to her by the casino,she ignored and followed a legal process. What I love her for is that she let people know that she doesn't care about the money but wants justice to be done. She gave out the money to charity organization which is something I admire in her. The rest are James Bond films.
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I agree that these are interesting ways to make a fortune out of a casino without gambling. I still want to think that this ways can be classified or categorised into smart and dumb ways period for instance showing the casino is a smart way there is no repercussion on the individual however on the other hand robbing a casino is a dumb way to make a fortune out of a casino without gambling the repercussions and the consequences would just be too much to bear. By the way who would ever think of robbing a casino?

Yeah, dumb ways to make money out of casino without playing you'll do this out of desperation just like point number one where the perpetrator loses a huge amount of money, so instead of chasing his losses or quitting he takes it to a different level and this is by taking the casino hostage, he almost gets away with the crime but without the money.

The lesson here is there is no illegal way to make money from casinos that will not succeed, the casino has huge money and they will go after you except for point number two where the winner sued the casino and recover his winnings.
Yes, these are desperate moves on which it would be ending up for you on getting jailed or would be imprisoned and these are indeed things which those insane mind would really be doing because no person would be on their right minds on committing such act because these are just criminality and its not something a normal person would do.You dont need to go into desperate measures on earning money because you could really
earn it on a legal way and not just like this. IT is really just the same whether you do steal on a small grocery store or into a casino which they might be differ on the amount that possibly be stole
but in general sense it is really that stealing,abducting,destruction involved.

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I love the "Just Rob the Place" idea, hehehe, and indeed the guy was almost successful, and I guess that's what happen to those who think that they can simply go and rob a casino.

The next big problem is how to encash those chips without attracting anyone. And in his case he was under the radar for sometime until he only had those big chips. And I know that casinos are going to chance it once they know that they have been robbed by this big chips.

I think another way is when you can bring huge whales in the casinos, or become a "junket"

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A junket operator forms special relationships with casinos. They promise to recruit and send VIP gamblers to the casino. Meanwhile, the gambling establishment works with the junket on tailoring specific comps to each player’s liking.

In exchange for their services, a junket operator receives commissions from the casino. The commissions are usually worthy investments, especially in the case of high rollers.

https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/what-is-a-casino-junket/

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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.
It can be possible in movies but never in real life. Who would want to marry a kidnapper? Although they are just forced to do so because of some personal reasons, but still kidnapping is a crime and definitely not the best option to that. The father might have killed the kidnapper first before his daughter will fall in love with the kidnapper.
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.
It can be possible in movies but never in real life. Who would want to marry a kidnapper? Although they are just forced to do so because of some personal reasons, but still kidnapping is a crime and definitely not the best option to that. The father might have killed the kidnapper first before his daughter will fall in love with the kidnapper.
If you're confident of your looks, being a suitor to the casino owner's daughter would be s better option, like shooting your shot to every rich woman you know; not to limit to individuals related to a casino owner, 'coz for sure there are many rich people outside gambling industry. For me, best way with satirical options mentioned is robbing a casino, just be sure not to get caught 'coz it may take your life with it. Actually I like this thread even if it is not focused in gambling like usual. But atleast it shows the 'crazy' side of a player being frustrated to be rich in gambling industry and without actually playing. Question is, would you really be down to do such things?

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Number one is the dumbest for sure, but the best way to make money out of the ones you gave is to sue them, as long as you have something to really sue about, like getting food poisoning, getting a spiked drink, being beaten by security, kicked out for "cheating" and denied win, when they have no proof... There's a number of options and you aren't  really taking a big risk because most likely the casino will try to settle with you. Lawsuits are bad for business. That's of course unless you're making shit up. In such case you'll lose money and time.

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Question about the Carleo's case.
I thought casinos included electronic or chip identifiers in their high-value chips? So in case of a heist of this nature the Casino would not actually get losses?

Also, If I was a casino I would certainly offer some NFC application for Android and IOS mobile phone to easily identify stolen chips.

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I thought that I'd be getting a list like including, "be an affiliate and take referrals as much as you can".

Lol,. i know right. By just looking at the title, you'll automatically think about what you have mentioned, but it's the other way around, I mean it's the illegal way of making money lol.
But these list are actually hilarious, especially that #1 guy. He could've enjoyed playing at the casino with those stolen chips and cash out gradually, but that funny guy's patience ran out and that what compromised him lol.

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February 22, 2023, 10:23:29 PM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.
It can be possible in movies but never in real life. Who would want to marry a kidnapper? Although they are just forced to do so because of some personal reasons, but still kidnapping is a crime and definitely not the best option to that. The father might have killed the kidnapper first before his daughter will fall in love with the kidnapper.
Could really still that possible in real life but chances are really that slim because owners wont really be that dumb enough on letting one of their families to be that too exposed into public considering abotu their financial
status and assets then it would be understandable that security wouldnt be taken so lightly.This is why it is really that almost impossible to happen.When you are a person who doesnt have plans in life
and commit out this kind of acts then you would really be ending up yourself in prison and wont really be possibly able to bail out depending on the case.
So dont go into this extreme resort just because you do want some big money.

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February 22, 2023, 10:27:36 PM
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#1
As if it's easy to just rob the entire casino and get away easily from the securities and authorities that will surely come to the place in a quick glance.

Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.
LOL!  Grin
This is like a kidnap-romance idea that only happens in movies.

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I thought that I'd be getting a list like including, "be an affiliate and take referrals as much as you can".

Yeah this one also cross my mind and you can actually do that but what OP posted is something that anyone or gambler who is in their right mind will do, some of those that are on his list can land you in jail and you are desperate when you're going to do this.
I also don't recommend it if you still want to gamble all your life due to some of these things, I prefer a safe and legal one which is affiliate marketing.
Well, those are illegal ways unless for the other one which is suing the casino. We all want to have a safe gambling experience and this is just a list that's really odd ways in winning against the house.  Cheesy

I thought that I'd be getting a list like including, "be an affiliate and take referrals as much as you can".

Lol,. i know right. By just looking at the title, you'll automatically think about what you have mentioned, but it's the other way around, I mean it's the illegal way of making money lol.
But these list are actually hilarious, especially that #1 guy. He could've enjoyed playing at the casino with those stolen chips and cash out gradually, but that funny guy's patience ran out and that what compromised him lol.
It's truly funny that he was never caught by the casino but by an undercover. Well, that's good riddance for him but at least he's given special treatment by the casino where he stole those chips.

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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

I had never thought about these possibilities, in fact, although risky, some seem to be much easier to win money than with the traditional method of betting.

I only disagree with the fourth method, unfortunately what we see most is casinos getting away with the lawsuits that are filed against them, it is rare to see a person win the lawsuit against a casino.

I haven't found the source, but a long time ago I read a news article about another "ingenious" way to earn money....
A slot machine manufacturer once used his unique knowledge to follow a certain betting pattern and almost always win the machine, the method even involved "non-communication" with the casino system that something was "out of the ordinary". .
I just have no idea what he did afterwards to exchange the chips he won.

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February 23, 2023, 12:58:39 AM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.

I'll no longer call it kidnapping anymore I'll rename it to, love-napping LoL.

But for me I think the no 1 was the funniest robbing the whole casino it's like after losing all my funds to betting I just decide f*ck it let's get back our money but this time we're ain't doing the normal shit let's just take everything for ourselves. After all the money I have lost to the casino has just been an investment ever since now is the time to take the profit.  Grin

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February 23, 2023, 01:16:40 AM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..
Those are some really extreme methods to beat the casino but they are interesting nonetheless, but without a doubt the best is number 4, how many times we have heard of some casinos doing what they can to not pay their customers and trying to get away with it? And many times gamblers accept it as they have no recourse to fight this decision, but this woman fought and won, not because she needed the money but simply because she was not going to allow the casino to scam her.
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I hope you are joking because You can get killed while trying to pull any if these stunts. The best way to make money from a casino without playing, is investing in a casino. Just be a partner so you can have your share of the profits. There used to be so many of those user bankrolled crypto casinos but I don’t see them anymore sadly. The casino owners are so greedy nowadays.

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February 23, 2023, 02:22:01 AM
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I hope you are joking because You can get killed while trying to pull any if these stunts. The best way to make money from a casino without playing, is investing in a casino. Just be a partner so you can have your share of the profits. There used to be so many of those user bankrolled crypto casinos but I don’t see them anymore sadly. The casino owners are so greedy nowadays.

Of course he is joking as he said it clearly that this thread is just for fun so why do you take it seriously lol?

@OP is there any case where someone try to get an affair with the owner of the casino then overtaking all the asset because the owner do not realize that it is just a trap? Anyway all the listed way sounds like a good scenario to be made into a film Smiley 

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4. Sue The Casino
Number 4 Sue The Casino, this is a lesson if we as players don't cheat then fighting for what is rightfully ours is not wrong thing, and this woman has the courage to file a lawsuit not because she is tempted by the money she will get, it is proven that she donated her winnings because usually what we hear is that players will return to playing with the winning money and end up losing it all

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February 23, 2023, 03:04:20 AM
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Actually it is understatement about the word "Without Gambling" because they  are gambling their lives, dignity and family in such doing , because if being caught ? surely all of those are being wasted .

though literal gambling is not involved , but gambling of life is much more than to use as bet than money.


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February 23, 2023, 03:28:47 AM
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some of the ways written in my opinion are not funny but look a little toxic just to get money from the casino.
when in fact there are many other better ways than doing things that are detrimental to yourself and the casino. If we pay attention, many of us here have gambling experience and we know that the opportunity to earn a lot of money from the casino is in ways that we know for sure, such as:

* becomes an admin slot
* become a casino representative
* become a casino owner
* work in a casino as an employee

of the several ways that I mentioned for me is a more positive way to get more money from the casino. and we're not doing ourselves or the casinos we frequent a disservice either.

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February 23, 2023, 04:18:45 AM
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There a things called "Investment"

If you have money and want to earn in "CASINO" business, then you investing on bankroll is the best option.

Yes, in general it will be more profitable in the long run to invest in a casino in one way or another than to be a customer. I think it's more feasible than the other options in the OP. But let's not forget that all that glitters is not gold. The casino you invest in could lose customers and even go bankrupt if it is not managed well, and you could lose your money. Like all investments there are risks.

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* becomes an admin slot
* become a casino representative
* become a casino owner
* work in a casino as an employee
Yeah, it doesn't have a lot risk compared what the ways were been explained from the @OP, the highest risk is become a casino owner, but it's mostly about financial risk and not your live. Actually the 5 ways explained by @OP isn't can be used in the casino, but any centralized business in online or offline. The another way is become a casino owner through bankroll investment, if the casino is success you will make a lot money.

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Many have suggested tactics here but are still confused if this is gambling or criminality as any similar business could be pretended while a means like this is replicated. It's so distant from my expectation as separation to make money is the sole reason and might boomerang in most cases.  Some also suggested investments pretence, but using the investment to cover up for gambling in a criminal disguise is a step taken too far.

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February 23, 2023, 07:24:25 AM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.

Son-in-law? Really?
The better plan is:
1.Kidnapp the owner's daughter.
2.Use your flirting skills and make her fall in love with you.(Stockholm syndrome, anyone). Grin
3.Make her pregnant.
4.Congratulations. Your son/daughter will inherit a successful gambling business. Grin

The last story is the most interesting, because the casino robber returns to the casino and spends the ships there(in order to get the money), but the casino guys bribe him with free meals and luxury stuff. This is hilarious and kinda ironic. The casino always wins, even after you rob it.

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February 23, 2023, 08:56:08 AM
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I love the choices, I may try one of it.  Cheesy

Kidnapping the daughter seems like a good choice. Hire some known kidnappers and just milk money from the owner.
I don't the bring a bomb technique, there's a chance I will pull the trigger while I am still in the vicinity. Stupid mistake.
Sue the casino seems to be another one of the good choices but it requires a big capital as paying the lawyer who will handle it and will also agree with all the lies that you will say. Must practice for acting skills to make it more believable.
Robbing the place is a bad idea, too many surveillance cameras on this era.

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February 23, 2023, 09:03:20 AM
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5. Bring in a Bomb

all that planning just to screw up on giving directions hahaha. kudos to the son's girlfriend for giving the police a tip on his whereabouts and I'm glad he got life imprisonment, he could have killed a lot of people for what he did. I wonder if Harvey got a lien on John Birge's property/s(if he ever had one) after doing all that damage on his casino.

there was no google waze yet during that time. 
if the casino knew the damage to the blast is $18M. the casino will rather give the $3M money to him.
Negotiating with criminals just because you don't want to lose much money as disagreeing with them may cost you more money than they requested  is another way of encouraging more future crimes. Anyway, the perpetrator and accessories to the bomb blast were eventually apprehended and served their term that's just the beautiful part of the whole event.

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February 23, 2023, 09:05:54 AM
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Son-in-law? Really?
The better plan is:
1.Kidnapp the owner's daughter.
2.Use your flirting skills and make her fall in love with you.(Stockholm syndrome, anyone). Grin
3.Make her pregnant.
4.Congratulations. Your son/daughter will inherit a successful gambling business. Grin

To make this a feasible choice within a reasonable timeframe, you must take at least one more step:

Step 5: Remove your father-in-law / the current owner of the casino (this doesn't have to be anything extreme, just enough to render him incapable of managing the casino).

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February 23, 2023, 10:06:39 AM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?
Robbing, Hacking, Kidnapping, Suing and Bombing, the five ideas of earning money without gambling are all criminal acts, all of them are dealing with the law, I'm not sure after getting money in that way, whether the money can be enjoyed or vice versa we can enjoy life in prison or die.

Honestly, if you ask me and if i had the expertise of course i would choose number two (2), hacking, maybe it's something with a long process to catch us, at least we can enjoy the money without gambling, rich for a moment.
It’s just funny why we have to deal with all these criminal jobs when all we know, it won’t give us a sure fortune as we might end up being jailed. So for me, it’s still not worth the risk. I’d rather be a high roller gambler so that if by chance I won the jackpot prize, it will be life-changing for me. Btw, I don’t think those uncaught hackers or kidnappers live in peace after they have benefited the money.

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February 23, 2023, 10:44:49 AM
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Well I would not call it big money but the following way to make money from a casino without gambling also exists: You could work for the casino.

Depending on your job you could potentially make big money although I would not call it "heist money". Unless you are the CEO or some very important figure, I very much doubt you would become a multimillionaire. Perhaps a millionaire if you worked there long enough.

Perhaps you could even sell third party services to a casino with your own company or even form your own casino. That would definitely bring in the big money without all the big legal problems.

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February 23, 2023, 11:16:11 AM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..
I think kidnapping the owner's daughter is funniest and interesting but the thing is, if it has lot of chaperone around them that will be a different story. You need a full proof plan to do it. These are totally not for the faint hearted and I don't think this is a good thing to do unless you are on your worst to get that money.
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4. Sue The Casino
Number 4 Sue The Casino, this is a lesson if we as players don't cheat then fighting for what is rightfully ours is not wrong thing, and this woman has the courage to file a lawsuit not because she is tempted by the money she will get, it is proven that she donated her winnings because usually what we hear is that players will return to playing with the winning money and end up losing it all
Yep.
The big lesson is don't cheat the casino and if you think that you've been cheated on by them and you're eligible for any amount that you've won.
There's only way to take it and that's through suing them. That's going to dig a lot of things from them and there's a lot to lose from them if you've been too persevere on what you deserve.
It might really take a lot of money as well from you but aside from that, there's no other thing that you have to lose aside from spending through the case and the court.
While them, even if they've got a lot of money, they will resort to a reconciliation that might end up by just negotiations and agreement on your potential winning.


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February 23, 2023, 11:32:43 AM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.

Son-in-law? Really?
The better plan is:
1.Kidnapp the owner's daughter.
2.Use your flirting skills and make her fall in love with you.(Stockholm syndrome, anyone). Grin
3.Make her pregnant.
4.Congratulations. Your son/daughter will inherit a successful gambling business. Grin

The last story is the most interesting, because the casino robber returns to the casino and spends the ships there(in order to get the money), but the casino guys bribe him with free meals and luxury stuff. This is hilarious and kinda ironic. The casino always wins, even after you rob it.
Hahaha, that's what I thought quickly because kidnapping the casino owner's daughter can give us wealth or the people of the casino owner can also kill us. But there may be many more funny stories about casino robberies that we don't know, and what @OP said is a small part of these funny stories.

Indeed, casinos always win because they own the business and can attract more gamblers to gamble in their place. And it is the gamblers who experience a lot of losses that will go into the casino's account.

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Lol when I read the title of this thread I thought that the words I can read is damn serious and can earn in legitimate ways but smiling while reading those crazy methods.


I think kidnapping the owner's daughter is funniest and interesting but the thing is, if it has lot of chaperone around them that will be a different story. You need a full proof plan to do it. These are totally not for the faint hearted and I don't think this is a good thing to do unless you are on your worst to get that money.

Hard to do this especially if you don't have a team since this need proper team work and excellent plan before you can make this plan to succeed. For sure those people are well guarded and random people cannot easily penetrate with them especially if they are newbie criminals.

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February 23, 2023, 11:57:13 AM
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The 5th and the 1st are what made me laugh while reading this whole article.

TBH, the title is a bit "clickbait-y" because as a gambler, you will be more curious as to how you can win on a casino. At the time you will read the whole article, you will find yourself smiling and laughing at the same time because the ways that OP just shared are just hilarious. I just can't believe that there are people who have the guts to do these especially the 5th and 1st.

While reading number one, I'm thinking it is like the famous series "Money Heist" where both just robbed the place. The only difference is that the perpetrator on that article has no plans at all, and he just pulled the gun.

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February 23, 2023, 12:09:55 PM
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I hope you are joking because You can get killed while trying to pull any if these stunts. The best way to make money from a casino without playing, is investing in a casino. Just be a partner so you can have your share of the profits. There used to be so many of those user bankrolled crypto casinos but I don’t see them anymore sadly. The casino owners are so greedy nowadays.

The title of the thread really caught my attention because I really wanted to make more money from casinos. But I just realized that the OP was just highlighting some stories where some persons made money through the hook or the crook from casinos. Apart from sueing the owner of the casino others are risky and illegal. But I think OP was just joking because he never encourages anyone to engage in such criminal activities. One can make genuine money by renting an office space to a casino company or offer services like advertisement for them. For now, my gambling returns is just okay for me.

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February 23, 2023, 12:13:41 PM
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Many have suggested tactics here but are still confused if this is gambling or criminality as any similar business could be pretended while a means like this is replicated. It's so distant from my expectation as separation to make money is the sole reason and might boomerang in most cases.  Some also suggested investments pretence, but using the investment to cover up for gambling in a criminal disguise is a step taken too far.

Obviously those are criminals acts, like stealing and kidnapping. On the other hard, filing a lawsuit is obviously legal, but it's going to be very difficult to go against big casinos and If I'm not mistaken, only few are very successful in winning a case against them and getting the money the plaintiff deserves.

But sometimes it's really funny to see how far this individuals will do to make money out of this casinos. I mean this is the biggest money machine known to man, so why not try to be inventive and steal money from them, illegally?  Grin
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I thought this will be a list of strategy and non-sense superstitions on how to get lucky but my mind was blown away by reading literal way on getting money in the casino by force or by law.  Cheesy

Actually there’s thing like this on online casino but it involves a little bit of gambling. Join a gambling syndicate, bet their fixed match in exchange for a commission payment. This is sure win and the only a user will lose is when the casino bust them which they will use their trump card Bitcointalk to get sympathy and force casino to pay them through extortion.

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I have just been reading up on the bomb story in the Harvey's Resort Hotel. What impresses me is how the guy constructed this bomb. He must have paid some professionals. If you read about it, as the author in your excerpt describes, there was no way for the bomb disposal squad to shut it down safely. We all know so many movies where there is at least this one cable you have to cut and then you are fine.

Everyone who saw the series "Bodyguard" on Netflix or "The Hurt Locker" with Jeremy Renner. Every time they defused a bomb I asked myself why those bombs are not just build in a way that they simply can't be defused.

Now I read about this story and this guy made it! Cheesy But when an FBI professional team can't defuse it, I doubt that John Birges himself could have done it.

The best about the story is that nobody was harmed physically. As a hotel owner it must feel bad. I wonder if an insurance pays for a bomb attack like that?

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Lol...... So hilarious no 1 was the most interesting I really enjoyed it. The man was frustrated after he lost to the casino, it's the bomb for me lol. Anything you do it will blow off unless they paid him the money lol. But I think I will try hacking the pig bank. Or maybe robbing the casino. Anyways i will still go to jail.

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February 23, 2023, 02:09:01 PM
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Lol when I read the title of this thread I thought that the words I can read is damn serious and can earn in legitimate ways but smiling while reading those crazy methods.

I think kidnapping the owner's daughter is funniest and interesting but the thing is, if it has lot of chaperone around them that will be a different story. You need a full proof plan to do it. These are totally not for the faint hearted and I don't think this is a good thing to do unless you are on your worst to get that money.
Hard to do this especially if you don't have a team since this need proper team work and excellent plan before you can make this plan to succeed. For sure those people are well guarded and random people cannot easily penetrate with them especially if they are newbie criminals.
The title was a total clickbait, I thought it was a legitimate way of making money on a casino. Not totally agreeing on this method but all of them are pretty difficult tbh. If they are guarded it's totally a different story in real life than what we see on action movies, it's totally hard to penetrate but with careful planning I think it's possible.
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February 23, 2023, 02:27:43 PM
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I didn't know what to expect but I certainly did not expect the number 5 and 2. The rest are rather normal-ish in terms of having an idea of doing something to get the money in a bad way, but those two? Didn't expect it. 5 had the surprise factor since I didn't know what the post was, and 2 were just straight new to me (but hacking through the local access via wireless connections is understandable).

A rather new type of post I must say, I expected the dumb strategy post once again which, to no surprise, includes martingale again. Glad it wasn't.

The title was a total clickbait, I thought it was a legitimate way of making money on a casino. Not totally agreeing on this method but all of them are pretty difficult tbh. If they are guarded it's totally a different story in real life than what we see on action movies, it's totally hard to penetrate but with careful planning I think it's possible.
Most cases like these just take advantage of some sort of loophole or gap, after all no system, both manpower and tech, aren't perfect. It's just a matter of difficulty in terms of how long it would take to crack.

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Casino robbery is very common then, when it has not been established with the online version whereby gamblers go to the casino houses for gambling and their the theives came and rob them, but it has also advanced to this day with the corperate online robbery that casino operators experience through hacking of their website, hackers have now developed many means they could use to launch in such attack on the casinos once they've got clue to their vulnerability, but all these were illegal means of forcefully getting money from the casinos.

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Casino robbery is very common then, when it has not been established with the online version whereby gamblers go to the casino houses for gambling and their the theives came and rob them, but it has also advanced to this day with the corperate online robbery that casino operators experience through hacking of their website, hackers have now developed many means they could use to launch in such attack on the casinos once they've got clue to their vulnerability, but all these were illegal means of forcefully getting money from the casinos.

It actually became easier for robbers to steal money these days. They don't be needing to risk their lives and they only havento acquire skills in hacking. That's what most casino hackers do these days. As security measures become more strict , they are also finding ways to hack casinos the better way. They also focus on targeting new gamblers that can fall for their trap easily.
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Question about the Carleo's case.
I thought casinos included electronic or chip identifiers in their high-value chips? So in case of a heist of this nature the Casino would not actually get losses?

Also, If I was a casino I would certainly offer some NFC application for Android and IOS mobile phone to easily identify stolen chips.
This happened a long time ago and as you can see, the image looks very blurry so I am sure that there is no such thing as as that back in time but those things are now not surprising, knowing how things have evolved. Out of the 5 stories, it looks like everyone in the room agrees that the number one is the most funniest of them all.

There are truly some robbers who are dumb and don't planned their moves properly, which is why they could get caught easily. If only that guy just continue what he was doing, which is selling the chips inside the casino than the online forums, then I think he will surely cashed out all of it in no time but he got greedy and wants to make a bigger deal.

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February 23, 2023, 06:34:15 PM
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Question about the Carleo's case.
I thought casinos included electronic or chip identifiers in their high-value chips? So in case of a heist of this nature the Casino would not actually get losses?

Also, If I was a casino I would certainly offer some NFC application for Android and IOS mobile phone to easily identify stolen chips.
This happened a long time ago and as you can see, the image looks very blurry so I am sure that there is no such thing as as that back in time but those things are now not surprising, knowing how things have evolved. Out of the 5 stories, it looks like everyone in the room agrees that the number one is the most funniest of them all.

There are truly some robbers who are dumb and don't planned their moves properly, which is why they could get caught easily. If only that guy just continue what he was doing, which is selling the chips inside the casino than the online forums, then I think he will surely cashed out all of it in no time but he got greedy and wants to make a bigger deal.

Number 1 is the funniest because it is so damn sophisticated and consequent, hell man it is consequent! Cheesy

You go and play there, lose the money, then say fuck it I am going to blow this whole thing up!

And eventually, you don't just think that way, but you execute the plan in a way that even the FBI can't stopping you from pulling it off. I would still like to know how he managed to build this unstoppable bomb. I did a bit of googling but couldn't find anything about that. The dedication is funny in some way. If I wanted to build a bomb because I am mad, first I wouldn't know where to start and then I couldn't execute it even if I find plans on the Internet, but then to even build one that can't be defused, that is impressive...
It also need big balls to build a 1,000 pounds bomb in your basement or wherever and then drive it to the hotel. He probably played at the casino tables with the same confidence and lost it all! Cheesy

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February 23, 2023, 06:50:51 PM
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This happened a long time ago and as you can see, the image looks very blurry so I am sure that there is no such thing as as that back in time but those things are now not surprising, knowing how things have evolved. Out of the 5 stories, it looks like everyone in the room agrees that the number one is the most funniest of them all.

There are truly some robbers who are dumb and don't planned their moves properly, which is why they could get caught easily. If only that guy just continue what he was doing, which is selling the chips inside the casino than the online forums, then I think he will surely cashed out all of it in no time but he got greedy and wants to make a bigger deal.

You may be right, I simply assumed that casinos implemented those security measures as soon as the electronics were available, for example, cameras and phones.
But I assume they did not expect someone to be as daring enough to steal that much from them.

Also, It seems that people in general tend to get greedy when comes to casino chips, whether those were gotten in a legitimate way or not.  Tongue

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February 23, 2023, 07:04:37 PM
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Kidnapping the owner's daughter is something that I can immediately think about because when we kidnap the owner's daughter and can take her heart to love us, there is a possibility that we will be the son-in-law of the casino owner hahaha.

But it will be strange because it is impossible. Moreover, his parents will hire a secret agent to look for where is his daughter. And they can also kill us because we have kidnapped the casino owner's daughter.
Or maybe just kidnap the owner’s daughter and demand a ransom, that will still give you an instant fortune but I’m not sure if you will really end up being fortunate, otherwise you will only end up being imprisoned for couple of years. So whatever crime you committed, you will always pay for that so never start one. If you want to be wealthy, work for it, it could be gambling I guess hitting the jackpot, but never resort into criminal acts.

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4. Sue The Casino
Number 4 Sue The Casino, this is a lesson if we as players don't cheat then fighting for what is rightfully ours is not wrong thing, and this woman has the courage to file a lawsuit not because she is tempted by the money she will get, it is proven that she donated her winnings because usually what we hear is that players will return to playing with the winning money and end up losing it all
Kudos to this woman as she stick to what she believe is right, and so she end up getting the money she deserves. But for some regular gamblers, it’s better to just accept the offer of the casino than to pursue the case since they won’t still get the justice in the end especially if the casino is protected by big officials in the government. Luckily, this woman still favored by the law, as any government law can still be bought with huge amount of money.

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For real? these are the ways?

5. Bring in a Bomb
3. Kidnap the Owner’s Daughter
1. Just Rob the Place  Grin.

You should change the title to 5 ILLEGAL ways to Make big money at the Casino.

You forget the bring your knife to the casino and attack the customers' way...  These are some terrible options to try to take the casinos' money, as you mention, some people already try them, but all of the examples had a terrible end.

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Casino robbery is very common then, when it has not been established with the online version whereby gamblers go to the casino houses for gambling and their the theives came and rob them, but it has also advanced to this day with the corperate online robbery that casino operators experience through hacking of their website, hackers have now developed many means they could use to launch in such attack on the casinos once they've got clue to their vulnerability, but all these were illegal means of forcefully getting money from the casinos.
Yo, its messed up how casinos are gettin hit, not just the old-skool heist, but also thru hackin! I mean, thatz straight-up illegal and not cool for all the hard-workin peeps in the gamblin industry. In my humble opinion, the reason these robberies are happenin is cuz of the weak-ass security measurs and protocals that aint doin the job of protectin both the casinos and their customers. Thats why I think the gamblin industry should step up and invest in some next-level technologee to beef up their cyberscurity and avoid gettin jacked. You know its a big deal cuz the Las Vegas Sands Corporation got hit back in 2014 and had to cough up over $40 mil! So, its time for these casinos to prioritize the safety of their business and their customers and prevent future mishaps.
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Lol...... So hilarious no 1 was the most interesting I enjoyed it. The man was frustrated after he lost to the casino, it's the bomb for me lol. Anything you do it will blow off unless they paid him the money lol. But I think I will try hacking the piggy bank. Or maybe robbing the casino. Anyways I will still go to jail.
The roof must be on fire, both the casino and the man including the money, unless the man gets justice in his way everyone is going down even though he may end I'm jail.

-I won't try this at home unless I want to end up in trouble that may go beyond you and even limit my freedom, I won't do any of that I will rather go the legal way to reclaim whatever I think I have lost to the casino.
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February 23, 2023, 08:21:48 PM
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There a things called "Investment"

If you have money and want to earn in "CASINO" business, then you investing on bankroll is the best option. I remember from "Top G Podcast" - Andrew Tate, he have experience opening a casino and partnership with some mafia.

He provided the money, casino to partnership with the mafia. He make a big money from that. ~XD
It’s obvious that casino will certainly make a huge amount of income as long as it’s well managed. Otherwise, if those mafia will only focus on their personal intentions, the casino will never become profitable. But if you can partner with some reputable casino owners, I guess that will also be profitable later on. But it’s a sure thing that they will demand bigger capital, and it will never be an issue as long as you can highly afford it.

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Making money in a casino without gambling. It almost sounds too good to be true. But I also know a good method to make money in a casino without risking money. Try if you can get started in a casino to work there, bet that they will pay well and you will also have a nice evening. When I think about it, you do have a great profession. And there is always a relaxed atmosphere, we all want that. Many people live in a uoption when they think there is money to be made from gambling, sooner or later things go wrong so this topic is actually a very useful topic, good job OP.

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February 23, 2023, 09:06:24 PM
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Lol...... So hilarious no 1 was the most interesting I really enjoyed it. The man was frustrated after he lost to the casino, it's the bomb for me lol. Anything you do it will blow off unless they paid him the money lol. But I think I will try hacking the pig bank. Or maybe robbing the casino. Anyways i will still go to jail.
Or you better not.

These are just situations of "what if" if you can't win against the casino and you still want to win against them without doing the traditional way of gambling.

Making money in a casino without gambling. It almost sounds too good to be true. But I also know a good method to make money in a casino without risking money. Try if you can get started in a casino to work there, bet that they will pay well and you will also have a nice evening. When I think about it, you do have a great profession. And there is always a relaxed atmosphere, we all want that. Many people live in a uoption when they think there is money to be made from gambling, sooner or later things go wrong so this topic is actually a very useful topic, good job OP.
Working there is really one of the ways that you're not required to gamble and get paid from casino's profit. That's actually a profession that's on the seats now and making a decent living for those that have been there.

Like those people working as the dealers, I don't know how much they earn but it seems enjoyable for them to do the job with all interactions they do.

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Making money in a casino without gambling. It almost sounds too good to be true. But I also know a good method to make money in a casino without risking money. Try if you can get started in a casino to work there, bet that they will pay well and you will also have a nice evening. When I think about it, you do have a great profession. And there is always a relaxed atmosphere, we all want that. Many people live in a uoption when they think there is money to be made from gambling, sooner or later things go wrong so this topic is actually a very useful topic, good job OP.
Aside on doing the legal or ethical stuff then it would be particularly talking about playing literally but if you do go into the other side of things on which you do find yourself on doing criminal acts then it could
possible but does it really worth it on the risk on putting yourself or life in danger or getting imprisoned for the rest of your life? The key on here is that you shouldn't really that make yourself that being
mindful on how you would make yourself rich on the fastest way around because of desperation you might really be ending up on going on the wrong path which would lead into a huge problem.
It is really just that depending on how you would be handling out yourself.

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all that planning just to screw up on giving directions hahaha. kudos to the son's girlfriend for giving the police a tip on his whereabouts and I'm glad he got life imprisonment, he could have killed a lot of people for what he did. I wonder if Harvey got a lien on John Birge's property/s(if he ever had one) after doing all that damage on his casino.
In the 5th story, the guy who planned everything is both smart and an idiot at the same time. He did everything so well and then messed up the drop location. Or, I also feel that maybe he did it because he knew he'd be having a visit from the FBI before the money. However, he still couldn't manage to save himself from the punishment.

I find story #4 a bit inspiring, and just like Eng, I believe that we should always fight for our rights. Marina Bay is a pretty big name in the restaurant and casino industries. It's quite unbelievable that they did something like that.

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February 23, 2023, 09:24:30 PM
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There’s also an incidents like this in my country before, but many died because of the incidents and robbery, this might look like an easy money but its not fun to me, this is illegal and a big crimes which I believe you can’t easily escape since the casinos always have the connection and they will do anything to avoid this as much as possible.

The only way to make money in casino without gambling is to work with them and be part of that casino, I guess this is more safe and practical, you don’t have to commit crimes just to make money.  Smiley
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Thanks for sharing info, now I know how to get rich on casino without playing 🙂
 Tbh, house edge is main factor why we gamblers lose in the long term. The main issue is to beat house edge, if you can all good, otherwise, think one of the methods listed on the thread lol

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February 23, 2023, 09:53:56 PM
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Thanks for sharing info, now I know how to get rich on casino without playing 🙂
Tbh, house edge is main factor why we gamblers lose in the long term. The main issue is to beat house edge, if you can all good, otherwise, think one of the methods listed on the thread lol
Agreed, to be honest in today's world these tricks won't work. To get rich out of casino without gambling is simply impossible. Maybe with these incidents we can know how people made use of casinos in the past for gambling and other purpose. Nowadays security system is quite high as it have turned to be the place of VIPs.

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The only way to make money in casino without gambling is to work with them and be part of that casino, I guess this is more safe and practical, you don’t have to commit crimes just to make money.  Smiley
Yeah, I think I made this declaration in the OP that the title of the subject of this thread is just for fun, like as you can see in the quote post below..

1. The Subject of this topic [5 Ways to Make Big Money at the Casino — Without Gambling] is just for fun, Don't try any of the acts on the list below, on any casino, as if you do and you are caught Grin, it is a serious crime that could land you in serious trouble.
The acts are all fun to read but not fun to try on any casino, any gambler in his or her right sense should know that those act are heavy crimes, and like those who committed it and were caught landed in jail, so also will anyone who tries to do the same on any casino would land in jail, so i shared this thread here for the fun part of it, not as an advise to gamblers, as the title of the subject seem.

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February 23, 2023, 09:58:08 PM
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Thanks for sharing info, now I know how to get rich on casino without playing 🙂
Tbh, house edge is main factor why we gamblers lose in the long term. The main issue is to beat house edge, if you can all good, otherwise, think one of the methods listed on the thread lol
Agreed, to be honest in today's world these tricks won't work. To get rich out of casino without gambling is simply impossible. Maybe with these incidents we can know how people made use of casinos in the past for gambling and other purpose. Nowadays security system is quite high as it have turned to be the place of VIPs.
The security system are high with the casinos since they are protecting big money and the people, so its very rare to read a news like this which can turn into a big problem if you get involve or if you are within the vicinity if that problem occurs. There’s no way to make profit in casino without gambling, not unless you do commissioning and you gamble using the money of someone who ask for your service, I’m sure someone are still doing this.

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February 23, 2023, 10:13:11 PM
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The only way to make money in casino without gambling is to work with them and be part of that casino, I guess this is more safe and practical, you don’t have to commit crimes just to make money.  Smiley
Yeah, I think I made this declaration in the OP that the title of the subject of this thread is just for fun, like as you can see in the quote post below..

1. The Subject of this topic [5 Ways to Make Big Money at the Casino — Without Gambling] is just for fun, Don't try any of the acts on the list below, on any casino, as if you do and you are caught Grin, it is a serious crime that could land you in serious trouble.
The acts are all fun to read but not fun to try on any casino, any gambler in his or her right sense should know that those act are heavy crimes, and like those who committed it and were caught landed in jail, so also will anyone who tries to do the same on any casino would land in jail, so i shared this thread here for the fun part of it, not as an advice to gamblers, as the title of the subject seems.

Others don't focus on the fun part but rather take it as a serious note. Anyway, there are still ways to earn in gambling without gambling. It's either through affiliating, promoting, staking on them, and yes, working for them.
Some casinos offer lots of opportunity these days.
We only have to look for legit and trusted casinos with good reputations so we'll have an assurance of getting paid.
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Glad that you clarify that it's just for fun, but it's not recommended and I would not even think of using any of the methods that are mentioned, some of them are too risky only the bold can do this because you are up against a casino and the authorities you cannot get away.
I prefer to do affiliate marketing you only need a few whales to join under your referral link and you're going to make money while you sleep, just pick the right casino to promote and you are good to go.

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Glad that you clarify that it's just for fun, but it's not recommended and I would not even think of using any of the methods that are mentioned, some of them are too risky only the bold can do this because you are up against a casino and the authorities you cannot get away.
I prefer to do affiliate marketing you only need a few whales to join under your referral link and you're going to make money while you sleep, just pick the right casino to promote and you are good to go.
Well said, all that mentioned were like risking our life. Maybe we'll get good money, but we don't know how long we can hide ourselves from the police and the outer world. Nowadays the security system is to the advancement, everywhere we're under the surveillance. The best choice is mentioned, affiliate marketing. If you get to be lucky to have a Whale gambler down to you, surely this gonna bring you good profit. Maybe this won't be the amount same as stealing with a bomb in hand  Shocked Roll Eyes

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What the f*ck did I just read lol. Cheesy

Interesting topic and kind of funny but yes, seriously if I will consider doing one of those, maybe the best one for me is to just rob the place.

Well then, good luck on our group though in an attempt to rob those casinos as that would be hard knowing casinos are using chips and not actual money.

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Glad that you clarify that it's just for fun, but it's not recommended and I would not even think of using any of the methods that are mentioned, some of them are too risky only the bold can do this because you are up against a casino and the authorities you cannot get away.
I prefer to do affiliate marketing you only need a few whales to join under your referral link and you're going to make money while you sleep, just pick the right casino to promote and you are good to go.
Well said, all that mentioned were like risking our life. Maybe we'll get good money, but we don't know how long we can hide ourselves from the police and the outer world. Nowadays the security system is to the advancement, everywhere we're under the surveillance. The best choice is mentioned, affiliate marketing. If you get to be lucky to have a Whale gambler down to you, surely this gonna bring you good profit. Maybe this won't be the amount same as stealing with a bomb in hand  Shocked Roll Eyes
There's always a risk because nothing on this life comes easy, if you do make money but on something which is illegal then getting caught is really the main risks that you would really be needing to avoid.

We do have our own will and could identify on whats good and whats bad on which it would really be depending into you on which road you would be taking in.

Gambling is for fun but on the time that you are already trying to do criminal acts then it would be an another story.Just like the rest been saying that other situations
is something similar on the movies but heck these had already happened in real life.

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Glad that you clarify that it's just for fun, but it's not recommended and I would not even think of using any of the methods that are mentioned, some of them are too risky only the bold can do this because you are up against a casino and the authorities you cannot get away.
I prefer to do affiliate marketing you only need a few whales to join under your referral link and you're going to make money while you sleep, just pick the right casino to promote and you are good to go.
yes, because if this thread is encouragement ? then it will not only against good will but also against the law and will bring bad result to others that may take it seriously or to reality.

but this is still a good post to remind everyone that gambling may turn us to become a bad people if we don't put the FUN inside and only seek for winning.

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4. Sue The Casino


Choo Hong Eng

On the other hand, we aren’t huge fans of the “don’t be greedy” maxim. We prefer a different one, which says, “Take from them what they owe you.” And so, Eng lawyered up. The matter reached the Gambling Regulatory Authority, which reviewed a bunch of surveillance footage and concluded that she was indeed owed every penny of the original win. No word on whether they also fined Marina Bay for trying to cheat their way out of the payment, but we’ll take what victories we can get.

After getting her win, it turned out that Eng did subscribe to the “don’t be greedy” idea after all. She pledged to give half the winnings to charity. Then she went and gave away the whole thing, to groups like the Singapore Buddhist Federation and the National Kidney Foundation. The restaurant biz pays well, it seems, so she didn’t need the money. This legal fight was all about the principle (and $440,000 adds up to a lot of principal).
It's quite unfortunate that this is what most casino does, by trying to bypass paying gamblers their respective huge winnings, which is unfair, as I have happened to come across many complaints of people suing casinos simply because of refusal to pay their huge funds, of which the only excuse has always been as a result it's machine error, that is never supposed to be gamblers fault, because for the fact that that same casino allowed gamblers used that machine and lost funds, they should also be willing to pay users when they win too without any complaint.

But moreover, I'm happy this woman could manage get justice for her full payout of $440,000, and went about touching the lives of the less privileged and people in need.
But this is possible only when someone gamble and managed to win but the casino is refusing to pay the rewards with silly excuses.

Instead of robbing the casino or kidnapping the owner's daughter the possibility of attaining the goal is high when we target the owner. Tongue

Well the honest answer is how to make money from casino without gambling there is to invest in their bankroll and we all know house has better chance of winning which means the returns is almost assured but we can't compare it with the rewards from winning a bet.









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February 24, 2023, 04:03:27 AM
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Well the honest answer is how to make money from casino without gambling there is to invest in their bankroll and we all know house has better chance of winning which means the returns is almost assured but we can't compare it with the rewards from winning a bet.
This was the best alternative to earn money with casinos without gambling, but unfortunatelly there aren't profitable bankrolls to invest anymore, because the casino has to be highly popular and move large chunks of money to make this investment profitable for investors. There isn't any casino fulfilling these requirements right now, while also offering the bankroll investment feature. The bankrolls you can invest are from smaller casinos which may suffer a big loss due to a lucky whale gambler winning the jackpot on short run, what will inevitably lead investors to a massive loss which will take a long time to be recovered.

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But this is possible only when someone gamble and managed to win but the casino is refusing to pay the rewards with silly excuses.

Instead of robbing the casino or kidnapping the owner's daughter the possibility of attaining the goal is high when we target the owner. Tongue

Well the honest answer is how to make money from casino without gambling there is to invest in their bankroll and we all know house has better chance of winning which means the returns is almost assured but we can't compare it with the rewards from winning a bet.

Agree. But to be able to invest in bankroll casinos, we have to look for truly safe casinos that can provide investment returns that we have submitted to the casino. And to find it, we must really look for the casino so as not to experience problems. Investing in bankroll casinos will prevent losses and lose money if we instead use it to gamble.

But robbing a casino or kidnapping the casino owner's daughter will only put us in danger because the casino owner will not remain silent seeing his daughter kidnapped.

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February 24, 2023, 09:37:14 AM
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snip~
Agree. But to be able to invest in bankroll casinos, we have to look for truly safe casinos that can provide investment returns that we have submitted to the casino. And to find it, we must really look for the casino so as not to experience problems. Investing in bankroll casinos will prevent losses and lose money if we instead use it to gamble.



I can name still handful of reputed casinos which is having bankroll investment but the only thing is the returns we can expect is 8% per annum which is high from an investor's point of view whereas for a gambler what only 8% for a year? He will say I can double my money in few hours itself that is the difference between an investor and gambler.

But we all know who is making money at the end of the day!









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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..

Very interesting article to read, unfortunately most of the stories are illegal and will probably end with us being in jail if we would attempt it. Was a funny read, just not really realistic in today's world. For a Hollywood movie it's a great story, but to do it now in real life I would advice against it. Even if we manage to get our hands on a lot of money like that, we won't be able to enjoy the money. What brings us all the money in the world if we are sitting in jail? I like story number 4 a lot, she won the jackpot but didn't get the money straight away. It always seems so weird that the first reply from the casino is it's was an error an the win is not legit. But why would they then offer her a lower payout? They are trying to cheat her out of the winnings and she fought for her right and got all the money in end. I also like the ending that she donated all the money to charity. At this point it's all about principals, she didn't need the money herself but wanted to make sure her rights are respected.
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Agree. But to be able to invest in bankroll casinos, we have to look for truly safe casinos that can provide investment returns that we have submitted to the casino. And to find it, we must really look for the casino so as not to experience problems. Investing in bankroll casinos will prevent losses and lose money if we instead use it to gamble.



I can name still handful of reputed casinos which is having bankroll investment but the only thing is the returns we can expect is 8% per annum which is high from an investor's point of view whereas for a gambler what only 8% for a year? He will say I can double my money in few hours itself that is the difference between an investor and gambler.

But we all know who is making money at the end of the day!
For small investors, 8% for a year is still their interest. At least, they can still expect a decent return from investing in the casino rather than just playing gambling which will eventually make them lose their money. But for big investors, maybe it will still give them a decent return, but they will look for other ways to get bigger returns.

But if he thinks he can double his money by playing gambling, that's also okay because that's his decision and it's up to him. We can probably only recommend it and the rest is for him to decide.

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February 24, 2023, 02:12:39 PM
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this is possible only when someone gamble and managed to win but the casino is refusing to pay the rewards with silly excuses.

Instead of robbing the casino or kidnapping the owner's daughter the possibility of attaining the goal is high when we target the owner. Tongue

Well the honest answer is how to make money from casino without gambling there is to invest in their bankroll and we all know house has better chance of winning which means the returns is almost assured but we can't compare it with the rewards from winning a bet.
Yes, that is what he said and there is no point of accusing the casino if we know that their operations are fine and they also know it to themselves however many losers are still doing it because they can't accept the fact they have lost their money. You got a point there BTW on other crime cases on the OP, IDK why some criminals still indirectly targeting people when they can just target the true owner.

Maybe the owner is too slick to be kidnaped or assassinated? Majority of parents care about their kids so kidnapping someone's kid will still greatly affect them. As for the person who bombs an establishment I think they have other motives. They may be doing it as a revenge to destroy the business of someone else and not really for the money.

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this is possible only when someone gamble and managed to win but the casino is refusing to pay the rewards with silly excuses.

Instead of robbing the casino or kidnapping the owner's daughter the possibility of attaining the goal is high when we target the owner. Tongue

Well the honest answer is how to make money from casino without gambling there is to invest in their bankroll and we all know house has better chance of winning which means the returns is almost assured but we can't compare it with the rewards from winning a bet.
Yes, that is what he said and there is no point of accusing the casino if we know that their operations are fine and they also know it to themselves however many losers are still doing it because they can't accept the fact they have lost their money. You got a point there BTW on other crime cases on the OP, IDK why some criminals still indirectly targeting people when they can just target the true owner.

Maybe the owner is too slick to be kidnaped or assassinated? Majority of parents care about their kids so kidnapping someone's kid will still greatly affect them. As for the person who bombs an establishment I think they have other motives. They may be doing it as a revenge to destroy the business of someone else and not really for the money.

Targeting the owner reminds me of the "Sleepover bandits" where the robbers visit the house of the owner and then from there they get to deal with how to go into the bank in the morning.

Casino owners however don't become owners if they are not from a crime family. They are bigger than a police district. It's kind of hard to do this stuff these days when every corner of the city is full of cameras. The world gets smaller for criminals because of it. No one gets away nowadays with crimes like these. It's time to play by the rules.


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Here I am thinking that all of these methods are legitimate, then I'm greeted by the first entry: bring a bomb Cheesy Seriously if you're looking to get big bucks without any regard to your safety and whether or not you'll get to spend these money, you can do these thingd. But until then, better think of some other legitimate activities to do in order to make money from the casino because these advices do not seem to be applicable to the average Joe Cheesy
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I have just been reading up on the bomb story in the Harvey's Resort Hotel. What impresses me is how the guy constructed this bomb. He must have paid some professionals. If you read about it, as the author in your excerpt describes, there was no way for the bomb disposal squad to shut it down safely. We all know so many movies where there is at least this one cable you have to cut and then you are fine.

Everyone who saw the series "Bodyguard" on Netflix or "The Hurt Locker" with Jeremy Renner. Every time they defused a bomb I asked myself why those bombs are not just build in a way that they simply can't be defused.

Now I read about this story and this guy made it! Cheesy But when an FBI professional team can't defuse it, I doubt that John Birges himself could have done it.

The best about the story is that nobody was harmed physically. As a hotel owner it must feel bad. I wonder if an insurance pays for a bomb attack like that?

That's what separates the bomb in the movies and bomb in real life because in the movies, bombs are just made to scare off some people but detonating it is not as complex compared to the real life where there would be so many wires attached on it with almost no hints what wire needed to be cut to turn off the whole thing. Even the experts like the bomb squads doesn't even know how to safely detonate it.
But for the insurance, maybe they haven't got any because some policies are different like for example, the bomb didn't explode on it's own, it's because the feds are so confident that they have everything under control when in-fact they don't know what to do.

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As for me, the first story is the coolest, it was like I read the script for the movie, it was exciting!The usual greed, as always, drove the criminal, if he were more prudent and more careful, he could still cash out chips for a very long time and perhaps not even incur any punishment, the undercover agent is well done for being in the right place at the right time.

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Here I am thinking that all of these methods are legitimate, then I'm greeted by the first entry: bring a bomb Cheesy Seriously if you're looking to get big bucks without any regard to your safety and whether or not you'll get to spend these money, you can do these thingd. But until then, better think of some other legitimate activities to do in order to make money from the casino because these advices do not seem to be applicable to the average Joe Cheesy
This will take a lot of greed, and not a safe advise at all, I’d rather lose money than to lose my whole life in prison. There’s no other way to make profit in casinos without losing, its normal and its part of the gambling activities. If you want to make more profit then you should be more lucky or you can find other way aside from gambling. Doing something that is against the law just to make profit is not good at all.
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Those are really ways to make big money at casinos but the title should remove the 'without gambling' part. Technically, those ways are also a gambled since they are not even sure if by doing those, they will really can milk a big money on those casinos. Smiley

Not just that, it's still gambling as their lives are also at stake there, if there will really be people that are crazy to do such things. Found it funny though but yes, illegal things are such the only options for bad guys to make quick such money.

I hope that those shitty people that will setup a plan like those will always end up failed and unsuccessful. Smiley

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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..

Don't you think that all the ways mentioned here to earn money at casino without gambling are the criminal ways of earning getting money and it does not make any sense.

I hope no one plans up these activities which may take people's life only for some money. How sad is it that the articles suggest to Kidnap the Owner’s Daughter or doing robbery?

I would suggest the instead of suing the gambling casino, we should sue those who give such idea's  Sad

Personal Note: I found this article and after reading, i found it very interesting so i decided to share it with the gambling community here.


Not interested at all, instead it promotes illegal actions and people may try to think about doing all this stuff despite the fact you have mentioned that the article is for fun purposes only.

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A very interesting article. But I can't do any of this. I think I have to be a little ruthless to do one of them. But I'm not the one who can do this. But if the daughter of the casino owner is beautiful, I can try to steal her heart. Cheesy I think the number one story is really interesting. And I think Tony Carleo did legendary things. I felt I was reading a film script while I was reading what he did. Is there a film that covers his experiences or gets inspired directly from him?

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February 24, 2023, 08:10:37 PM
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A very interesting article. But I can't do any of this. I think I have to be a little ruthless to do one of them. But I'm not the one who can do this. But if the daughter of the casino owner is beautiful, I can try to steal her heart. Cheesy I think the number one story is really interesting. And I think Tony Carleo did legendary things. I felt I was reading a film script while I was reading what he did. Is there a film that covers his experiences or gets inspired directly from him?

It is okay to fall in love with the owner's daughter. But the idea of kidnapping the owner's daughter should be discarded.

This is ridiculous and no sane person would think of such a thing. But yes the incident that the OP shared is completely logical. If you own a casino, any kind of risk can come to your family. Therefore, most casino owners have personal security guards to deal with these risks.

So before deciding whether to propose to the casino owner's daughter, he should take care of his own life... lol

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February 24, 2023, 09:05:23 PM
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Now, in all of the Five, which of this do you think is the funniest and most interesting?

For me, I think Number 1 is  Grin that Carleo guy is such a clown  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
lets dicuss guys ..

Don't you think that all the ways mentioned here to earn money at casino without gambling are the criminal ways of earning getting money and it does not make any sense.

I hope no one plans up these activities which may take people's life only for some money. How sad is it that the articles suggest to Kidnap the Owner’s Daughter or doing robbery?

I would suggest the instead of suing the gambling casino, we should sue those who give such idea's  Sad

Personal Note: I found this article and after reading, i found it very interesting so i decided to share it with the gambling community here.


Not interested at all, instead it promotes illegal actions and people may try to think about doing all this stuff despite the fact you have mentioned that the article is for fun purposes only.

That is your opinion, and I think that it is only a person with mental instability that would want to go and try to carry out any of the acts in the OP on any casino, I clearly stated that the title is kind of ironic, it was written so to give readers some kind of amusement, a reader who is not criminally minded already knows that he or she is not supposed to try any of this things on any gambling casino, not even on any business whether small or big.

And another thing I can tell you is that criminals are criminals anywhere you find them, except for those that repent, like I pointed out earlier, only a criminal will want to try any of this acts on a casinos after reading this thread , those whose mind are pure will see this as normal fun stories to read, just the same way we have fun reading some other stories of what happened or what some people did way back in histroy.

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February 24, 2023, 09:14:10 PM
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It is okay to fall in love with the owner's daughter. But the idea of kidnapping the owner's daughter should be discarded.

This is ridiculous and no sane person would think of such a thing. But yes the incident that the OP shared is completely logical. If you own a casino, any kind of risk can come to your family. Therefore, most casino owners have personal security guards to deal with these risks.

So before deciding whether to propose to the casino owner's daughter, he should take care of his own life... lol
Nothing seemed okay to me as all 5 ideas were presented here only for humor purposes and not the practical one. Usually all the headlines which are including the words "make big money" or similar are sort of attracting to me.  But, here I am little disappointed due to these 5 ideas. I guess that with gambling, we cannot make money without playing there.

Perhaps, if we run a casino then we might get opportunities to make big money without gambling but owning and running a casino is not a childplay. So, practically gambling is still for me only for entertainment purposes.
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February 24, 2023, 09:26:16 PM
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It is okay to fall in love with the owner's daughter. But the idea of kidnapping the owner's daughter should be discarded.

This is ridiculous and no sane person would think of such a thing. But yes the incident that the OP shared is completely logical. If you own a casino, any kind of risk can come to your family. Therefore, most casino owners have personal security guards to deal with these risks.

So before deciding whether to propose to the casino owner's daughter, he should take care of his own life... lol
Nothing seemed okay to me as all 5 ideas were presented here only for humor purposes and not the practical one. Usually all the headlines which are including the words "make big money" or similar are sort of attracting to me.  But, here I am little disappointed due to these 5 ideas. I guess that with gambling, we cannot make money without playing there.

Perhaps, if we run a casino then we might get opportunities to make big money without gambling but owning and running a casino is not a childplay. So, practically gambling is still for me only for entertainment purposes.
Its not humor purposes or even being practical but rather those are literal things which you could really get money without playing but of course it is something that connects about criminal acts.
You could really get money through this but of course this is just that suicide on where you do know on what would comes next? Getting imprisoned because you are doing something which is really that
not ethical. Dont make yourself go into this last resort on things which you do really see that it could really make you money but of course its not something that suggestable to do so which is common sense.
Most of those situations might really that look that it do happen on movies but it do really happen in real life.

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