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February 27, 2023, 07:25:32 AM
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It should really be something that doesn't need said, but as long as I've been at this I know that users(especially those that don't care) have to have everything spelled out for them. Cheaters are still going to cheat no matter what rule is in place, but managers have protected themselves from the drama if the rule is added.
I disagree, there are many members saying when two or more accounts joining in the same campaign is fine as long as there's no rule about multiple accounts usage. Because this forum doesn't have a rule about multiple accounts usage in signature campaign, but it's the rule of the campaign manager. That's why I always search multiple accounts connections when the campaign have a rule about multiple accounts, if not my work become useless.

Someone can easily take advantage of that, join using multiple accounts, and argue out that they didn't see any rule prohibiting them from enrolling multiple accounts.
Perhaps you could do some update on the campaign thread OPS.
It would be interesting to see if there's an user leave the campaign after Royse777 announce this rule Roll Eyes

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February 27, 2023, 07:39:42 AM
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It should really be something that doesn't need said, but as long as I've been at this I know that users(especially those that don't care) have to have everything spelled out for them. Cheaters are still going to cheat no matter what rule is in place, but managers have protected themselves from the drama if the rule is added.
I disagree, there are many members saying when two or more accounts joining in the same campaign is fine as long as there's no rule about multiple accounts usage. Because this forum doesn't have a rule about multiple accounts usage in signature campaign, but it's the rule of the campaign manager. That's why I always search multiple accounts connections when the campaign have a rule about multiple accounts, if not my work become useless.

Someone can easily take advantage of that, join using multiple accounts, and argue out that they didn't see any rule prohibiting them from enrolling multiple accounts.
Perhaps you could do some update on the campaign thread OPS.
It would be interesting to see if there's an user leave the campaign after Royse777 announce this rule Roll Eyes
Who are these users? So far I have seen 1 who shares your opinion. I'm not saying there are only 2 of you who feel this way, but I think it kinda depends on the user. Those that run multiple accounts on this forum probably agree with you, those that live in underdeveloped areas of the world will likely agree with you, but those who operate a single account, or those who are decent managers will likely disagree with your opinion.

Regardless, I imagine you will now see that rule become implemented in some campaigns so that users such as you cannot make the claim of there is no such rule.

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February 27, 2023, 07:51:56 AM
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I, too, when looking for cheating, always pay attention to the conditions of the manager.  In fact, there are quite a few alternative accounts that take advantage of the absence of this rule, but I pass by, realizing that if the manager allows participation, then this is normal.
In addition, accounts with a negative tag also take advantage of the absence of a no-participation rule with a red tag, and this has been brought up many times in Murat's threads. For normal participants in bounty companies, the rule, even if it is not announced, goes without saying, but for cheaters, this is a green light.

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February 27, 2023, 08:18:36 AM
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If I don't know that two accounts were owned by the same user but later found they were accepted in the same campaign and they did not let me know even in PM to keep it private, I will tag both accounts.
Did it ever happened to you, someone applying with two different accounts and then sending you a PM after he got accepted with both?

@yahoo62278 since you are also active in this topic, did the above scenario ever happened to you?

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February 27, 2023, 08:28:40 AM
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I, too, when looking for cheating, always pay attention to the conditions of the manager.  In fact, there are quite a few alternative accounts that take advantage of the absence of this rule, but I pass by, realizing that if the manager allows participation, then this is normal.
In addition, accounts with a negative tag also take advantage of the absence of a no-participation rule with a red tag, and this has been brought up many times in Murat's threads. For normal participants in bounty companies, the rule, even if it is not announced, goes without saying, but for cheaters, this is a green light.
For a bounty I would not be so strict. Users are being paid with worthless tokens most times.


If I don't know that two accounts were owned by the same user but later found they were accepted in the same campaign and they did not let me know even in PM to keep it private, I will tag both accounts.
Did it ever happened to you, someone applying with two different accounts and then sending you a PM after he got accepted with both?

@yahoo62278 since you are also active in this topic, did the above scenario ever happened to you?
Noone has ever confessed to me that they were in the campaign with multiple accounts. I remember back in the Bitsler campaign I had invited a member to fill an open spot. Come to find out he was already in with another account. It did not end well for him when he got exposed. Had he informed me he was already in with another account I would have asked him to choose which to stay in the campaign with and please leave with his other account. Being as I invited him, I would not have tagged him for what I feel is cheating.

It's getting to where you need a rule for damn near everything these days. Otherwise, everyone is just going to look for a way out of a cheating accusation. People should have some common sense but that's too much to ask. I 100% understand that everyone does not have the same circumstances or opinion as me, but to me enrolling with multiple accounts is just cheating. Using the excuse that you applied with multiple accounts not knowing which would be accepted is just plain crazy. Apply and if rejected try with another, then it's ok. What happens when you get accepted with 2 or more accounts? I do not for a minute believe anyone will pm a manager and say hey I own both of those accounts. They're gonna stay in til they get caught.

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February 27, 2023, 09:45:32 AM
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Noone has ever confessed to me that they were in the campaign with multiple accounts.
I secretly hoped that you will prove me wrong and say "yes, people contacted me as they were honest and didn't want to abuse campaign rules" but yeah, I expected that answer and I would be really surprised if any manager actually experienced that.


Using the excuse that you applied with multiple accounts not knowing which would be accepted is just plain crazy. I do not for a minute believe anyone will pm a manager and say hey I own both of those accounts. They're gonna stay in til they get caught.
Exactly. There's a reason why signature campaign farmers don't make their alts publicly known because that gives them opportunity to join good signature campaign with more accounts and we've seen only a handful of members willing to do that because they have no ulterior motive to milk as much as possible from signature campaigns.

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I just checked all my active campaigns and found none have any clause about multi account LOL. It's a so common practice on the forum that I never thought to put something about it before, but now I see there is a need or people will use it as a hole. I took a note for myself to add the clause from the next payday of the campaigns. Thanks for pointing it.

It is understood that Multi accounts are not allowed in any campaign whether you write it in the rules explicitly or not. However, having written in the rules gives the manager an edge as the applicant can't challenge that there was no such rule in the campaigns and therefore, they enroll their alt accounts.

For normal participants in bounty companies, the rule, even if it is not announced, goes without saying, but for cheaters, this is a green light.

Yes, this is exactly what i was saying above. No written rule about multi account can be used as an excuse by the cheaters (applicants) and sometime may even save them from getting tagged.

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March 04, 2023, 07:46:46 AM
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Not withstanding the above discussion (which is more the pros and cons of who can apply for a SigComp rather than the scant meat on the brittle bones of the OP's ONE and only post), the OP doesn't tie the UID's together with shared use of wallet addresses/social media profiles/merit or DT self scratching - the list goes on.

Just another throw away newbie alt account or someone with sour grapes who was probably rejected from the aforementioned signature campaign and instead of standing tall with their accusations comes slithering in here with their mud slinging hoping it lands in the right direction.

Rinse and repeat.

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