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March 06, 2023, 01:22:45 AM
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When we talk about the Ukraine and Russia war, only Russia has benefits from it as they can gain land, but for Ukraine, they are fighting for freedom. Also in war, the only thing that can benefit is the business of weaponry dealers like those who will make tanks, arm weapons, and anything else that was used in war because the demand is increasing, so they will make and make until the end of the war, meaning they are getting money from those countries on war. We normal people are affected by it, and we can't stop it on our own.
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March 06, 2023, 01:24:15 AM
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With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.
If you look at the advantages, of course there are advantages that can be considered as advantages if won by Russia or by the countries that carry out raids, such as expanding territory, colonial areas, either avoiding threats or maintaining the security of their own country, continuing to gain power and so that movement is wider in future reign.
And if Ukraine wins in this war and survives until Russia stops its attacks there will be many benefits because it will be considered the strongest country other than in the control of Ukraine it will grow faster because of course there will be many countries that support it because Ukraine can be said to have won achievements in war because it can survive against one of the giant countries.
Speaking of other parties, of course there are either individually or as a state. In this war, countries that produce war equipment, energy, foodstuffs and others will benefit from rising prices due to the difficulty of access to distribution and the large number of requests so they can control and increase prices.
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March 06, 2023, 01:55:36 AM
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With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.
War can be used as a reference for developed countries to increase their defense budgets, for example, in China, even if they aren't indirectly involved in Russia and Ukraine war, but the government makes this as a reference and propose to parliament to increase the budget next year (2023). of course, this is indirectly an advantage, If have a big budget, the china government will be free to manage the budget without thinking of the economical case.

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March 06, 2023, 02:26:58 AM
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We have an Arab proverb that says: “The misfortunes of some people are the benefits of other people.”

Through my experience with the war here in my country, I believe that the biggest beneficiaries of wars are arms dealers and drug dealers. They hope that the war will not end because it causes their trade to flourish, even if at the expense of the blood of innocent people.

Therefore, the biggest beneficiaries of this war are the arms companies that sell weapons to Ukraine, and on the other side are the companies that provide the raw materials needed for the Russian arms industry.

In addition to these, there are countries that have begun to compensate for the lack of food and fuel that used to come through Russia and Ukraine.

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March 06, 2023, 03:45:11 AM
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War is one thing that no society should engage themselves into as its effect is devastating and unforgettable upon generations. When two or more countries are warring it is said that there are other countries that benefits in one way or the other from the war as it prolongs and intensifies, especially economical benefits is one of such.
 The ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine which has been on for almost a year now and the effects of the war between these two is not only on the two warring countries alone but has gone so far as affecting the economies of many countries of the world that have no involvement or interference in the said war. countries of Europe are experiencing a fall short in gas supply, while those of Africa and other continent suffer from economic downfall as a result of certain products and services that are no longer in-coming due to the war effect.
With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.


War or pandemic, there will always be a beneficiary behind it. I believe that war does not happen naturally, but behind the group's interests, the group that benefits the most from war are companies and corporations that provide weapons and military equipment. Trading in weapons like any other commodity, needs to be consumed and used to make a profit, and to consume weapons there must be war. The arms business is the most profitable of all the businesses.

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March 06, 2023, 03:47:48 AM
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Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.
Let's say what you say is true, but actually you also shouldn't accuse them like that without attaching evidence, because accusing a party without including evidence is also not good. Even though war and inflation do have causes, so everyone needs to look for the real causes to be disclosed to the public without accusing what is in each person's mind, because during a war only certain parties can benefit while most people only feel trouble.
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March 06, 2023, 04:07:23 AM
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Suppliers of weapons, tools, food, and other stuff to the belligerents of war will always be the winners--granted the world hasn't end based on this war that they supplied. The winners gain dominance and some control over the losers, and they get to shape the new world and established new rules that favors them, but not for long. Conflicts will always be there as long as humans continue to strive for power and control, and as long as they do that, there will come a time wherein no winners will be left after a war.
With this, I remember the story back of the Gold Rush back in the 19th century where people are rushing to mine gold back at that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_rush
Who are the winners of that event? The miners? Yep, maybe, but the main winners of that one are the ones who sold pickaxes to those miners. No critical thinking involved. I mean they are the suppliers of the main thing that everyone needs to mine Gold.

It's the same thing with this one. The suppliers of the weapons are the main winners aside from the countries that will win because of that war. I don't like wars and so do we, but we can't prevent it especially when a huge countries want to be more dominant and their only way is to conquer other countries.

I just hope that whatever war countries have right now, must end it because of the casualties after the war.

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March 06, 2023, 04:17:59 AM
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No one benefits, wars are due to ego. Even if there is obvious harm involved to oneself, egotistic person would still go harm's way.

You can check wars happened in history or current one, there will be egotistic reason behind each.

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March 06, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
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The biggest benefit from every war is the third party who manages to put the belligerents at odds through his deception. In addition, those who sell weapons to disputing parties also benefit greatly because they can sell many of their weapons under the pretext of helping parties who do not have sophisticated weapons. This is a common occurrence and may not be a secret anymore because the third party gets the most benefit from the cooperation agreement.

Of course, the two sides who suffered the most were at war because they lost their soldiers, destroyed the economic situation of both parties, and many people were affected by the war. This will also trigger domestic crimes that will not stop because their governments are busy fighting wars.

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March 06, 2023, 07:27:20 AM
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Almost no event can enrich the imperial economy more than wars. Imperialism means that a country wants to acquire more resources and new markets. Wars are a vital element for the continued development of those economies that are based on resources that belong to other peoples.

Throughout history, it has been observed that wars often benefit the imperial or ruling class. However, it is disheartening to note that many of these individuals lack empathy and disregard humanity. Furthermore, the means by which they attain power can be quite gruesome, as some resort to completely destroying their opponents and their families, while others make spiritual sacrifices of their loved ones. In such cases, these rulers are more likely to initiate wars to acquire lands, people, and wealth that rightfully belong to others. Sadly, these conflicts often result in the deaths of the less privileged and the destruction of their property, while the imperial class continues to reap the benefits. The current situation in Ukraine serves as a typical example of such interests, with the imperial class being the beneficiaries.
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March 06, 2023, 09:27:41 AM
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No one benefits, wars are due to ego. Even if there is obvious harm involved to oneself, egotistic person would still go harm's way.

You can check wars happened in history or current one, there will be egotistic reason behind each.

It is true that when a war happens, the people of both countries go through a bad time and it will affect the world, no one wants that to happen. But politically, the winners will be the beneficiaries. Along with that war requires a huge amount of weapons, so arms dealers are the biggest beneficiaries. War is part of the world and it will never go away, when one war ends there will be another war. There are always people who want that to happen because they get great benefits from it.

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March 06, 2023, 09:51:48 AM
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war is something that is very disastrous and that truly no one should engage in, its impact is always severe on the environment and most importantly it endangers people's life and serious impact on the economy despite  that many countries still engage in it to show strength and to show superiority over one another not considering the risk behind it, and looking at Russia, Ukraine it affected the lives of their citizens and also the world supply and looking at the benefits it an open opportunity for other countries producing oil and countries producing arms of the sincere truth Russia and Ukraine seriously need to reconsider their actions.

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March 06, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
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I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.
Arms dealers, through selling of those arms and other weapons. That's the reality about this war.



But the sad truth is, too many lives are taken away and these wars are unlikely to be stopped because of many political disagreement and as well as territorial disputes.
I think national pride is part of other major reasons as to why the both warring factions have refused to wave a white flag on this war. Non wants to be seen as weak against the other but while this pride grows their citizens diminishes in number and strength. And other instigators of this war based on what you @livingfree have highlighted in your first statement, those that supplies weapons of war and others war aiding supplies are just underground behind the cotton heating up the polity continuously. And it's really crazy that humans don't care anymore about fellow humans dieing as long as they're making their money out of it.

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Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.
The United States did not unleash this war and it is not the cause of it. It's all about the imperial ambitions of Putin, who wanted to go down in history as a collector of the lands of the former USSR, and possibly not only them, and the aggressive nature of the Russian mentality, which constantly needs aggressive wars to assert itself about the greatness of Russia. Also, one of the main reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine is the desire to assign its history to Kievan Rus, starting from the 9th century, the fertile lands of Ukraine, a good industrial potential and hardworking Ukrainians. Without the history of Kievan Rus, the history of Russia looks very poor, even the territory of Moscow in the 13th century was the patrimony of one of the princes of this powerful state, and it turns out that Ukraine has the right to claim most of today's Russia, and not Russia to Ukraine. It even stole its name from Kievan Rus, because until the beginning of the 18th century it was called Muscovy or the Moscow kingdom.

Putin and his intelligence underestimated the professionalism of the Ukrainian army and the desire of its people for freedom and freedom. It was hoped that the resistance would be as flimsy as in 2014, when Russia first attacked Ukraine, seizing the Crimean peninsula, as well as part of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Therefore, on February 24, 2022, the Russian 200,000-strong invasion army was tasked to approach the outskirts of Kyiv on the same day by 15:00. The invaders have not fulfilled this task to this day. Now in Russia they say that Ukraine deceived them by pretending to be weak and defenseless. Strange justification for military aggression.

As for the benefits, the military weakening of Russia is certainly beneficial to the United States and other NATO countries. But even they underestimated the ability to defend Ukraine against Russia and gave Ukraine a maximum of seven days. That is why they did not give Ukraine heavy weapons on the eve of the attack, because they could have been seized by the Russian invaders. They gave only stingers and javelins for conducting guerrilla warfare under occupation. Help in more and more powerful weapons came from them only as the defeat of Russian troops in Ukraine and the brilliant conduct of military operations by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

NATO has been preparing for a long time for a possible military confrontation with the USSR, and then with Russia. Now it is performing its main tasks with the hands of Ukrainians and they are amazed at how they are beating the "second army of the world", which all NATO countries were afraid of together.

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March 06, 2023, 12:57:54 PM
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War is something no society should do, as its consequences are devastating and unforgettable for generations. When two or more countries are at war, it is said that there are other countries that benefit in one way or another from the war as it drags on and escalates, especially economic gain being one of them.
   The incessant war between Russia and Ukraine, which has been going on for almost a year, and the consequences of the war between these two countries, not only concern the two warring countries, but have gone so far as to affect the economies of many countries of the world that they have no participation or intervention in said war. countries in Europe are experiencing gas shortages, while countries in Africa and other continents are suffering from an economic downturn due to the fact that some products and services are no longer available due to the consequences of the war.
In connection with this war between Russia and Ukraine, the effect of which is felt directly or indirectly in almost all parts of the world, I want to ask if there are beneficiaries of this war and how they benefit from it.


You are quite mistaken.
1. This war has been going on for more than 1 year. Russia attacked Ukraine back in 2014. Occupied part of the territory of Ukraine. This is the annexation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, this is the capture and organization of a puppet separatist government in two sewers - the DPR and the LPR
2. This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. It is Ukraine that defends its country, its people and its territory from an aggressor country. Which by the way acted as a guarantor of the inviolability of the territory of Ukraine, according to the Budapest Memorandum, when Ukraine abandoned its nuclear weapons. At the time of Ukraine's refusal of nuclear weapons, Ukraine had the third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world, after the United States and Russia.
3. Everything that is happening now in the world is a manifestation of Russian aggression against Ukraine. And then also economic terror against the EU.

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Sectors in Russia benefited from the war, and stopping the import of Russian gas made more European countries switch to nuclear energy, and Russia controls an estimated percentage of nuclear fuel, as Rosatom's sales increased by more than 20% from the beginning of the war.
Source: https://intellinews.com/rosatom-s-nuclear-exports-surge-in-2022-270128/

Both India and China benefited from the war by buying Russian oil and gas and other Russian products at a low price compared to the world price, which gives competitive quality.

Ukraine benefited from the war, as it received aid estimated at more than 3 times its budget for the year 2022.
The United States benefited from the war, especially oil and arms producers, who made huge billions due to high prices and increased demand.
Arms companies also benefited in some European countries.

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Sectors in Russia benefited from the war, and stopping the import of Russian gas made more European countries switch to nuclear energy, and Russia controls an estimated percentage of nuclear fuel, as Rosatom's sales increased by more than 20% from the beginning of the war.
Source: https://intellinews.com/rosatom-s-nuclear-exports-surge-in-2022-270128/

Both India and China benefited from the war by buying Russian oil and gas and other Russian products at a low price compared to the world price, which gives competitive quality.

Ukraine benefited from the war, as it received aid estimated at more than 3 times its budget for the year 2022.
The United States benefited from the war, especially oil and arms producers, who made huge billions due to high prices and increased demand.
Arms companies also benefited in some European countries.


1. Calculate the volume of Russia's losses from the loss of the EU oil and gas market, and compare this with the gain from the sale of nuclear fuel. Moreover, in the EU, stations do not use TVEL fuel cells from Russia. And the EU did not launch their nuclear power plants, but replaced gas suppliers
2. Speaking of "benefits" - do not forget about the tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians. Many died a terrible death having experienced before this inhuman torture from the invaders.
Do not forget about the millions of people who lost everything they had - seven, houses, cars, savings, FUTURE!
3. Speaking of benefits - don't forget about the destroyed cities of Ukraine. They were physically destroyed and razed to the ground by the invaders. About thousands of villages - which can no longer be restored. About thousands of hectares of land that needs to be cleared.

And I have listed only the tip of the iceberg of the evil that Russia brought to Ukraine

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Any war has its beneficiaries. What Russia stands to gain is what Ukraine doesn't want to loose, hence why the war keeps mounting.
Other known beneficiaries are those who manufactures these weapons and ammunition. Those who provide medical assistance and supply medical equipment and relief materials also benefit because they represent bodies with a godly front  but with hidden agenda.
No doubt Ukraine has suffered more including its surrounding nations, because it has had to defend its lands and structures. The battle effect would be felt generations to come. Russia on the other hand still has its major cities bubbling with little as much as no attack from the Ukrainian forces.
The countries who stand aside and observe like China and india also benefit because they have taken advantage of the trade pact and have its allies ready.

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I support no one in the war between Russia and Ukraine and all the wars going on in the world, war is a crime. But to say who benefits in this war, it is clear that the arms dealers are the ones who benefit the most, the longer the war lasted, the more weapons they sold. Not to mention like the news I read, the Ukrainian battlefield is also a place for great powers to test new weapons as well as flaunt their strength to sell more weapons.

I hope there will be a miracle, a country can come out to end the war, the war not only hurts the people of the two countries but also affects the whole world.

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Producers of oil and natural gas benefited from the war. 

Oil and natural gas prices rose, resulting in windfall profits for oil and gas companies.  Organizers of maritime tanker shipments also received super-profits - Russia now carries its oil to India and China.  Sea transportation takes several weeks. 

The governments of these countries also benefited from the war, as they received additional taxes to the budget. 

Benefits were received by the countries to which qualified engineers, programmers, designers from Russia emigrated (these people left their country after the announcement of partial mobilization in it).

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