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March 07, 2023, 09:19:21 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
I don't think there is any faithful casino company or site in the internet or online. Some are openly scamming gamblers while some are secretly scamming gamblers. Even the best casino you know online is not faithful to some extent. Your guest or doubt is correct, casinos use different languages to collect money from users or gambling but some are better off compares to others. Not all casinos are bad but the ones that bad are much more and they have spoiled the image of the good ones so it is very difficult to detect a good casino. The KYC is used by many to confused gamblers and siphoned gamblers filund to themselves.

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March 07, 2023, 09:41:13 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
I don't think there is any faithful casino company or site in the internet or online. Some are openly scamming gamblers while some are secretly scamming gamblers. Even the best casino you know online is not faithful to some extent. Your guest or doubt is correct, casinos use different languages to collect money from users or gambling but some are better off compares to others. Not all casinos are bad but the ones that bad are much more and they have spoiled the image of the good ones so it is very difficult to detect a good casino. The KYC is used by many to confused gamblers and siphoned gamblers filund to themselves.
This is why its really that important that you should really be considering those funds that you had deposited on a gambling site is completely gone or you would be thinking that its considered 100% lost.

So that incase that there would be some problems then you wont really be that much in hurt because you are already anticipating it but somehow when you do win big then it just cant really be avoided
for you on not to be that reactive specially if we do speak about some significant amounts on here.This is why its always been that important that you should really know on where you do make yourself
getting involved.Its just common sense that you should really be sticking into those current reputable or known ones but just like been said that there would be no guarantee that they wont
really be scamming users.
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March 07, 2023, 09:49:49 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do

You can do many things if this thing you're saying happens to be true, why should you remain loyal to a casino scamming you, it's not by force choosing them, it's rather by choice, you can choose to stay or leave at any time, we have alot of casinos both new and old interested in making new gamblers have suitable experience with them.

that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose

This i may not agree, it's plain and fair, you gamble to win or loose, you can try betting at any settings aside from the common casino gambling, except if you already fall the hands of the scammed ones, i also don't believe in whatever i read online or watch because everyone at the end is after his own interest in everything they do.



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March 07, 2023, 09:59:41 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
Casino do have a house hedge, and gamnot.rs can't beat the house hedge because they always win. They are out for business and if every gamblers wins almost all the time,I don't think that they casino will be able to pay the winners which would lead to their ruin. If most casino run at big lost and shut down,then how will we gamblers entertain ourselves. I see gambling as fun which I have to pay for and this doesn't bother me at all. Nobody will love to run a business that he or she will run at great lost. You see it is a scam but something that we are use to,therefore, I don't see it as scam because it is your choice to gamble or not.
^ Definitely right.
The house edge of the casino is impossible for gamblers to consistently beat it.
And that is right, it matters that the casinos are businesses, and they need to make a profit to stay afloat. If they were constantly paying out large sums of money to every player who won, they would quickly go bankrupt. While it's not uncommon for some casinos to experience losses on a temporary basis, the vast majority of them are profitable in the long run. This is because the house edge ensures that they will win more often than not, which ultimately allows them to pay their bills and employees and stay in operation. While some may view gambling as a scam, others see it as a form of entertainment that they are willing to pay for. As long as players are aware of the risks and approach them responsibly, there is nothing inherently wrong with enjoying a game of chance now and then.
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March 07, 2023, 09:59:44 PM
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OP made a point but i was expecting OP to have given us the link to the video as claimed by OP for members to peruse.
OP already posted the link. Probably, you have missed it because it's unclickable. Anyway here it is:
https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

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So therefore OP should not think that the casino would seat and watch while they make loss. They too would want to make profit as every other persons and businesses plans too.
Casinos' main aim, as any other business, is to make money. However, if a gambler wins big in a legit way, then casino's owner have to embrasse the loss and pay the winning. It's still a risky business even if the odds are, statistically, in the casinos favour.

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March 07, 2023, 10:08:43 PM
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So therefore OP should not think that the casino would seat and watch while they make loss. They too would want to make profit as every other persons and businesses plans too.
Casinos' main aim, as any other business, is to make money. However, if a gambler wins big in a legit way, then casino's owner have to embrasse the loss and pay the winning. It's still a risky business even if the odds are, statistically, in the casinos favour.
Of course, they made a profit on it, how they will survive if they won't? Besides, as we noticed, the number of gambling casinos has increased which means, it is a profitable business. Casinos are businesses that exist to make a profit --a legitimate casinos are also subject to strict regulations and oversight to ensure that they operate fairly and honestly. This means that if a player wins big in a legitimate way, the casino is obligated to pay out the winnings. But the odds may be in the casino's favor statistically, there is always a chance that a player may win big and cause the casino to take a loss. This is simply a part of the risk that the casino assumes as a business.









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March 08, 2023, 05:51:17 AM
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So therefore OP should not think that the casino would seat and watch while they make loss. They too would want to make profit as every other persons and businesses plans too.
Casinos' main aim, as any other business, is to make money. However, if a gambler wins big in a legit way, then casino's owner have to embrasse the loss and pay the winning. It's still a risky business even if the odds are, statistically, in the casinos favour.
Of course, they made a profit on it, how they will survive if they won't? Besides, as we noticed, the number of gambling casinos has increased which means, it is a profitable business. Casinos are businesses that exist to make a profit --a legitimate casinos are also subject to strict regulations and oversight to ensure that they operate fairly and honestly. This means that if a player wins big in a legitimate way, the casino is obligated to pay out the winnings. But the odds may be in the casino's favor statistically, there is always a chance that a player may win big and cause the casino to take a loss. This is simply a part of the risk that the casino assumes as a business.

What is said on the video may be true, but then it is a reason for a trial in court, especially since, as a former employee of one of the largest gambling establishments says, without naming the company, otherwise it is just words casting a shadow on the entire industry.
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March 08, 2023, 05:59:14 AM
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They are not scamming and actually the terms and condition will help you to understand how their business work. Gambling is a business. It’s normal that they will want profit from customers money by means of loss. They don’t need to do this shitty algorithms to scam players just to have a profit because they already have the house edge on all of the games which guarantee their win in the long run. They just need a good marketing and promotion to let player stay in the casino.

I watch this video long time ago. He might telling the truth about the casino he is working before but there’s no assurance that other casino is doing it too. Gambling doesn’t promise any profit at all that’s why casino always say to bet responsibly.

They actually do not need a "shitty algorithm" to cheat you, because they are in control of the configuration of the RTP for most of their in-house games. Just go to many of these Crypto casinos and you will find that they have a fixed house edge for these games, but we have tried to test those numbers and it is clear that it is not fixed.

They show you a piece of text that says "House edge = 1%" .....but they continuously change it slightly to balance their books. You also have third party Slots like Hacksaw games .... that offers casinos several different options for the RTP, so it is not a fixed house edge on those games.  Roll Eyes

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March 08, 2023, 06:10:20 AM
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Provably fair is fair mate and oke thing I finally accepted lately is the fact that gambling is a business and at such, is also profit oriented. I can't say for sure about any analysis but gambling is also a game of luck coupled with skills and with house edges then for sure it's a business of profit making.
Your link isn't active and you should try repasting the link as I'm also interested in eatch the video myself.
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March 08, 2023, 10:21:43 AM
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That's why players stick to reviews or megathreads of casinos to see which ones are worthy over time. There are a few reputable reviewers here, like GOSU and GamblingBro that have reviewed casinos from time to time.

After all, gambling is all about luck and house edges hence it's a business for making money.

Choosing a good gambling site is considered as a good move but still, it is not the key to make money in gambling. Gambling platform are earning because of what they called as a house edge, it is pretty normal because it is a way for them to make money in their industry. For me it is not considered as scam like what many people say because as a gambler you accepted the risk, rules and regulation of the game before you wager your money. If you want to win in gambling then play your money smartly, play with your edge and make sure that you will only wager the amount of money that you are willing to lose.

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March 08, 2023, 02:22:55 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
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The casino does not promise to make its gamblers rich. It is simply impossible to make everyone rich. A gambling house is a business. The casino entertains you and you pay money for it. If you are lucky, you win a prize. But gamblers are rarely lucky. So don't count on luck. Earn money with your own work, not in the casino.

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March 08, 2023, 02:31:15 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
It is important to understand that gambling is a business, and like any business, its ultimate goal is to make a profit. This is why we see poor players and a very rich gambling and casino industry. The industry is designed to make money, and it does so by manipulating the odds in its favor.
But this does not mean that players cannot win. While the odds may be against us, there are still many skilled players who are able to consistently beat the system. These players understand the games they are playing, and they know how to use strategy and skill to their advantage.
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March 08, 2023, 03:59:45 PM
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It is important to understand that gambling is a business, and like any business, its ultimate goal is to make a profit. This is why we see poor players and a very rich gambling and casino industry. The industry is designed to make money, and it does so by manipulating the odds in its favor.
But this does not mean that players cannot win. While the odds may be against us, there are still many skilled players who are able to consistently beat the system. These players understand the games they are playing, and they know how to use strategy and skill to their advantage.
no matter how big the opportunities can be obtained from betting, still, the percentage of losing the gambler will be greater. You lose thousands of dollars and you are made to win by the bookies a thousand or two thousand dollars in one bet. that's the reality that happens in the casino.
but anyway, casino games are always fun. those who are already attached to gambling will find it difficult to get out. some even cannot control their desires related to finances. this business is fun but not necessarily profitable for gamblers. so the options are just to have fun or stress out about losing all the money.

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March 08, 2023, 04:15:13 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
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The casino does not promise to make its gamblers rich. It is simply impossible to make everyone rich. A gambling house is a business. The casino entertains you and you pay money for it. If you are lucky, you win a prize. But gamblers are rarely lucky. So don't count on luck. Earn money with your own work, not in the casino.
It's true what you said that casinos don't promise to make you rich, so that goes back to our initial goal of playing gambling. Do we play gambling to make rich or just for fun. If we have the goal of getting rich by playing gambling, then I say we will experience the opposite. Because if you aim for that, it means that we bring ambition and emotion in playing, whereas in gambling games things like that are things that must be avoided because it will make us lose a lot of money.
I'm sure someone who feels cheated is someone who loses, it's different if you win.

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March 08, 2023, 04:50:14 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Owning a gambling casino is a profitable business which is why many people are trying to get into this business.
The house edge plays an important role in the gambling site's profits. It is what makes us lose our bets over the long term.
There are only few legit gambling sites whereas other sites just try to scam us in one way or other.
So we have to make sure we are using the right casino site before we make any deposits.

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March 08, 2023, 07:03:37 PM
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The chances of losing when gambling is very high,  many people don't know this until they have lost a lot already, if casino owners make the winning chances higher for players, their business will go bankrupt very soon, for them, there is a lot to make when players lose. This is the reason why I gamble when I have good amount of money laying around somewhere, gambling is more than just winning, you can have some satisfying fun out of it, especially when you are into a particular type of games on the casino website.

Focus more on having fun than expecting to win some big money fast, winning on gambling websites comes when you least expected, this is why you need to gamble with money you can afford to lose.

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March 08, 2023, 07:06:06 PM
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Casino and bets scamming is as old as the world, the only way to have protection is to know when to stop... Not only by means of gambling, but also by means of using the same platform...

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March 08, 2023, 07:35:33 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
People can say whatever they want on those platforms with almost no repercussion for themselves even if they are lying, the probably fair system was created with the idea of demonstrating to the gamblers that the casino was not cheating them, and in my opinion this is a system that is relatively effective, could there be some casinos out there trying to cheat their customers? Yes, they exist, however an honest casino owner knows they do not need to cheat as the odds are already on their favor, they just need to attract more customers and that will be more than enough to make a lot of money.
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March 08, 2023, 08:42:57 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
I once talked to a live casino dealer and they said if you win it's because we won you not because you are good at tricks or anything like that, it's just a beautiful sentence you put out to your friends to seduce them.
The server controller has full control when you play gambling at their casino, if you happen to win the game you will definitely say that you are great and lucky but to be honest you have been loved by the casino controller.
That's what they specifically do but sometimes when you are given a win you are always greedy and want more.
You have to be aware of that my friend.
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March 08, 2023, 08:47:17 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

When a casino claims they are provably fair and if they are reputed enough then we can trust their results are completely fair and you still can validate the results using provably fair validation tool so don't confuse with house edge and provably fair system and for your information the casino games are designed in a way to give high reward while lesser chance to achieve it.









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