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March 21, 2023, 05:44:12 PM
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So any facts found in the gambling system according to the OP's statement are based on video reviews from YouTube, but we agree with your discussion above that we place gambling only as entertainment and not passive income, so we choose sports gambling because pure winnings are determined based on match scores and not from the casino system.
Yes, but bookmakers sometimes cheat, as well as the sports clubs themselves involved in match-fixing, you can also lose your money in sports betting as well as in online casino slot machines, provided that you really strive for a quick income.

Well, of course, if you do it moderately and under the mood, then yes, it can be fun.
You will definitely lose the money that you are destined to lose, no matter what you do, and if you are supposed to win, you will win even if there is an attempt to cheat by the bookmaker or anyone. We all know and understand that sports betting is more dependent on research and analysis than luck, but we also know that it is a part of gambling, and there is no win in gambling if there's no luck at all.

I think a bookmaker who cheats will eventually be out of business as they can't really hide that forever, and once they get success in cheating, they will definitely do it multiple times again and will be caught sooner or later. And the teams or clubs that get involved in match-fixing are also ruined slowly because we have seen in the past that no cheater can hide in the dark forever and they will have to be exposed some day.

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March 21, 2023, 10:06:29 PM
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It's simple logic - casinos have the house edge, so regardless of how many hours you are gambling, you will still lose in the long run. You don't count your wins and losses per day but your overall performance. So, if you really want to know how you are doing, you need to record your ins and outs so you can calculate if you are in profit or not. ~

Casinos have the house edge, yes. Does that guarantee that you, as an individual, will lose "in the long run"? It depends on what "in the long run" means. In a thousand years of constant gambling - very likely. Within 20-30 years, I don't think so. I mean, you can lose all you have within one hour, but if we are talking about what is guaranteed, then, no, the house edge does not have as much power as is attributed to it by some gamblers.

That means that as long as we play what we are sure of is losing, because I don't think Anyone is going to play 20-30 years in a row every day, because they would have to have a lot of money or unless they make bets every day for Less than 1 dollar, And even though it is possible, it is very sad, what a player has in money can be Multiplied in a matter of seconds, what I think he Meant there is that even though he plays for a long time, that is, at 3-4 hours the probability is to lose.
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March 21, 2023, 10:46:27 PM
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There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

All gambling sites are favoring themselves, if they'll favor the gamblers then that means that at least they're giving some shot to their players. But that's nothing new, as all of them that has got a good reputation in the community do share the same chances that they provide to each of their players. It's a business as many have said and they need to make money but at the same time, it doesn't mean that they'll go wholly zero with the chances that they give to their players. Many still wins in casinos and they're go unnoticed because they just don't want to expose themselves but it's also known that, many are losing and that situation and result is very common for most gamblers.

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March 22, 2023, 10:12:42 AM
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That means that as long as we play what we are sure of is losing, because I don't think Anyone is going to play 20-30 years in a row every day, because they would have to have a lot of money or unless they make bets every day for Less than 1 dollar, And even though it is possible, it is very sad, what a player has in money can be Multiplied in a matter of seconds, what I think he Meant there is that even though he plays for a long time, that is, at 3-4 hours the probability is to lose.
It is possible to do it but they need to have very strong self-control to keep limiting themselves in gambling. Maybe they make less than 1 dollar bets and only play one type of game. But it will be difficult to stay within the same limits every day for 20-30 years and almost impossible to do so even if someone does. But if he plays 3-4 hours, he may lose a large amount because no one knows when we can win. And we can only keep trying to play while hoping we can win in the next round.

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March 22, 2023, 04:33:09 PM
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That means that as long as we play what we are sure of is losing, because I don't think Anyone is going to play 20-30 years in a row every day, because they would have to have a lot of money or unless they make bets every day for Less than 1 dollar, And even though it is possible, it is very sad, what a player has in money can be Multiplied in a matter of seconds, what I think he Meant there is that even though he plays for a long time, that is, at 3-4 hours the probability is to lose.
It is possible to do it but they need to have very strong self-control to keep limiting themselves in gambling. Maybe they make less than 1 dollar bets and only play one type of game. But it will be difficult to stay within the same limits every day for 20-30 years and almost impossible to do so even if someone does. But if he plays 3-4 hours, he may lose a large amount because no one knows when we can win. And we can only keep trying to play while hoping we can win in the next round.

Yeah, it's the core thing about all the gambling process. Next round... Avoiding next round when you win is a bit hard, but possible, but everything goes much worse with attempts to avoid next round when you lose. Especially novice gamblers don't fully realize this.

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March 22, 2023, 05:08:31 PM
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This is gambling, that's why it's called entertainment - just for us not to feel bad when we lose. But if we are ambitious enough to think we can make a living in gambling, then we should understand the risk.
There are lots of assumptions about gambling, some call it entertainment and fun, some really expect big things from gambling or use gambling as their place to make a living.
But it all depends on the gamblers themselves because everyone has their own goals and ways of thinking.
Not only when you have the ambition to make a living, but for fun entertainment, you also have to understand the risks because in gambling we use money to be able to play, so financial management is very important and needed by gambling players.
Usually those who are really involved in gambling will be able to accept and be responsible for all the risks that will occur.
If all want you want is to get entertained, you can still play the game without making any deposit. Some sites allows you to play with zero balance, there is also faucet, play money and lastly demo mode. Faucet is better among them because if you get lucky you can withdraw your winnings straight in your crypto wallet.

There are players who prefer to use real money. If this was the case then yeah they will need to manage their bankroll properly so that they can get achieve the satisfaction that they want and won't end up busted quickly making them to deposit again because they haven't get enough yet. Gamblers are responsible for their actions but there are still gamblers who ended up blaming the casino and the end when their lives gets destroyed by it.

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March 22, 2023, 07:18:51 PM
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There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

All gambling sites are favoring themselves, if they'll favor the gamblers then that means that at least they're giving some shot to their players. But that's nothing new, as all of them that has got a good reputation in the community do share the same chances that they provide to each of their players. It's a business as many have said and they need to make money but at the same time, it doesn't mean that they'll go wholly zero with the chances that they give to their players. Many still wins in casinos and they're go unnoticed because they just don't want to expose themselves but it's also known that, many are losing and that situation and result is very common for most gamblers.
Everyone wants to win in this industry. Although most gambling sites favor themselves, they nonetheless provide players a reasonable chance to win. Several casinos offer a payout rate of 95%, meaning you can expect to earn 95 cents for every dollar wagered. This is merely an average; some players will win big and others will lose everything.

Here's the real deal: gambling isn't just about victories and defeats. It's the electrifying sensation of the game, the adrenaline rush from taking risks, and the camaraderie of playing alongside others. Research confirms that most gamblers aren't counting on a windfall, but they revel in the gambling escapade anyway. So, despite some losses, the vast majority will relish the experience and bag some earnings.

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March 22, 2023, 07:41:51 PM
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There is a particular gambling site I stumbled on. It was so obvious that they where manipulating the whole process. Some are programmed to favour only them but there are good number of gambling site that favours the players as well.

Always stake what you can afford to loss.

This is a business and sole aim of business is to make profit.

All gambling sites are favoring themselves, if they'll favor the gamblers then that means that at least they're giving some shot to their players. But that's nothing new, as all of them that has got a good reputation in the community do share the same chances that they provide to each of their players. It's a business as many have said and they need to make money but at the same time, it doesn't mean that they'll go wholly zero with the chances that they give to their players. Many still wins in casinos and they're go unnoticed because they just don't want to expose themselves but it's also known that, many are losing and that situation and result is very common for most gamblers.
Everyone wants to win in this industry. Although most gambling sites favor themselves, they nonetheless provide players a reasonable chance to win. Several casinos offer a payout rate of 95%, meaning you can expect to earn 95 cents for every dollar wagered. This is merely an average; some players will win big and others will lose everything.

Here's the real deal: gambling isn't just about victories and defeats. It's the electrifying sensation of the game, the adrenaline rush from taking risks, and the camaraderie of playing alongside others. Research confirms that most gamblers aren't counting on a windfall, but they revel in the gambling escapade anyway. So, despite some losses, the vast majority will relish the experience and bag some earnings.

Well, aside the loses, gambling can indeed be very fun, but unfortunately, most of the gamblers today do it for the money, they don't care about fun or  anything related and outside money.

This has contributed greatly to majority of the gambling addictions we hear and read about, if only gamblers can begin to be less dependent on gambling for money, life would be much more easier.

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March 22, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
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The question is how many of those gambling sites are truly fair in their system most of them have they system is designed to only favor the house and the player will feel cheated at all time, but we also have some casino that have a fearly favourable  system that give players some form of fairness.

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March 22, 2023, 11:30:24 PM
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The question is how many of those gambling sites are truly fair in their system most of them have they system is designed to only favor the house and the player will feel cheated at all time, but we also have some casino that have a fearly favourable  system that give players some form of fairness.
House do always wins and this is what you should bare up in mind.Lets say that they are totally that fair but we do know that there's a house edge to begin with which it would really be that normal that as a gambler on which we are really that on disadvantage.The thing that what matter most on here is that we do prefer on losing a game on a fair way or something that been rigged nor being altered.
This is where these companies do gain up trust despite those hindrances and trust issues but it would really be wipen out overtime on the time that they do get that sufficient
recognition and this is why its ideal that you should stick on places which are reputable.

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March 23, 2023, 07:37:03 AM
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    When we play gambling, we don't know if that day we will be lucky or unlucky to play. If we are unlucky on the day we gamble, I am sure that no matter what we do, we will not win and if we do win, it will be a small amount, and we will still be taken back by the loss until we realize that we are no longer equal, this is often the case. that happens to gamblers who play in every casino.

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March 23, 2023, 07:48:02 AM
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The question is how many of those gambling sites are truly fair in their system most of them have they system is designed to only favor the house and the player will feel cheated at all time, but we also have some casino that have a fearly favourable  system that give players some form of fairness.
you need to remember this that you play gambling in casinos and casinos are not charities where it is a place to distribute money to other people in need, if you want big money you should build a business and be a successful person not a gambler, I'm sure everyone knows casinos also want to make money just like you so understand the marketing concept of fair play, everything talks about money. if you gamble then be ready to lose and not talk about the best casinos that don't cheat.  Cheesy

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March 23, 2023, 10:56:22 AM
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i doubt there is ONE crypto casino who aint rigged these days, we all know that, we see it every time we gamble
remember, the house always wins, and that dosent mean they win fair
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March 23, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
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i doubt there is ONE crypto casino who aint rigged these days, we all know that, we see it every time we gamble
remember, the house always wins, and that dosent mean they win fair

Well if the code can be reviewed and is provable fair then you at least can make sure that there is no obvious scam involved. What you should always consider is that even fair casinos can earn enough money to keep sites running and have a profit for themselves. So if you simply stick to the big casinos that don't need to scam because they simply earn enough anyway then you have the best chances.
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March 23, 2023, 11:09:59 AM
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i doubt there is ONE crypto casino who aint rigged these days, we all know that, we see it every time we gamble
remember, the house always wins, and that dosent mean they win fair

Well if the code can be reviewed and is provable fair then you at least can make sure that there is no obvious scam involved. What you should always consider is that even fair casinos can earn enough money to keep sites running and have a profit for themselves. So if you simply stick to the big casinos that don't need to scam because they simply earn enough anyway then you have the best chances.

i met casinos that are cheating even provability fair checked , they simply display another result, u can see they are cheating only if u check bet by bet, and no one is doing that
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March 23, 2023, 02:24:44 PM
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Aside from the house edge always winning gamblers and most losing players in every casino, the house they have the capability to control the game, not the gambler can ever control the game, unless the casino has a high reputation and many gamblers play, in this kind of situation it can be said that a gambler can be lucky to win and bad luck to lose.

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March 23, 2023, 02:37:07 PM
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We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video: https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
There are many scams casino out there so we need to be vigilant to prevent being catch by the traps. And also before we play in a specific casino it's better to find some good reviews or let day before we play we need to do a research to know more about the casino we want to gamble. But we need to know at all that in the gambling world it's all about luck and if we have our luck in our side then it's expected that it's easy win for us but if we don't have luck then a big loss is waving.

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March 23, 2023, 06:41:34 PM
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The question is how many of those gambling sites are truly fair in their system most of them have they system is designed to only favor the house and the player will feel cheated at all time, but we also have some casino that have a fearly favourable  system that give players some form of fairness.
House do always wins and this is what you should bare up in mind.Lets say that they are totally that fair but we do know that there's a house edge to begin with which it would really be that normal that as a gambler on which we are really that on disadvantage.The thing that what matter most on here is that we do prefer on losing a game on a fair way or something that been rigged nor being altered.
This is where these companies do gain up trust despite those hindrances and trust issues but it would really be wipen out overtime on the time that they do get that sufficient
recognition and this is why its ideal that you should stick on places which are reputable.

At the end of the day, it's key to remember that, sure, there's always gonna be that house edge, but that ain't no reason to throw in the towel and quit gambling. It is all about enjoying the moment, whether it is alone or with someone else

Completely agree with you mate, using myself as an example, with all the bad experiences I've experienced in gambling, I shouldn't be gambling anymore, but then, here I am, still doing it from time to time..
Gambling isn't all about making money or profit, most at times, the fun and relaxation it gives counts more than the profit that should have been made.

But I understand that as our faces are different, so is our heart desires, by this, it is certain that no matter how much we preach that gambling is not all about profiting, but all about having fun, many will never listen, their major reason for gambling will always be to make money, nothing else.

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March 23, 2023, 06:59:10 PM
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Aside from the house edge always winning gamblers and most losing players in every casino, the house they have the capability to control the game, not the gambler can ever control the game, unless the casino has a high reputation and many gamblers play, in this kind of situation it can be said that a gambler can be lucky to win and bad luck to lose.
Smile!!! No gambler is wins, the matter how luck the gambler is, he would definitely loss some games in some days. And the same to the opposite, no gambler is always loss, there must be a day that you will win even though it is a small amount of money. Even at this state, the game can still win if he has lucky in that game. Though it is difficult since he is not controlling the game.









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Don't be too quick to believe anything that's posted on YouTube or any video sharing platforms. Yes, it could be true that the one who's exposing it really came from the casino industry or it's just someone that has overheard things over the counter and then managed to make a video and creates accusation about such.

Even at this state, the game can still win if he has lucky in that game. Though it is difficult since he is not controlling the game.
Winning isn't difficult because it's given to every gambler and we'll win no matter what and how much we've been losing. But that's it, we have to understand that the house always wins and we can't defeat them if that's the purpose. If you feel cheated by the casino you're playing at then, complain to them and give them the proof or show it to the community for us to decide whether it's cheated and we won't go there anymore.

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