What if bitcointalk creates a casino review and ratings board for members.

[joniboini]

Apparently, the request by members for casino review is becoming demanding due to some experience they have had with some casinos coupled with the complaints of account banning, suspension and poor customer care service which is now beginning to eat deep into casinos with claims of account holders defaulting their policies which if properly investigated, the gambler is not guilty of the penalty and actions metted against them.

I think this is not limited to casino services. I've found many reports on exchanges, traders, platforms, etc and most of them are easily accessible. Sure, some threads might get buried because people no longer post there due to various reasons, but searching as mentioned above is still available. It is a bit inconvenient for sure, but so does managing a thread dedicated to casino reviews. Unlike the signature campaign overview, there is a difference in depth IMO. You can't easily verify some casino claims, but you can easily check if a campaign is scamming its participants or not.

Some cases here onboard this platform have been sorted out with some gamblers being innocent and funds by winning being released to them while some casinos and their representative are no where to be found.

The fact that some casinos give no response should be a good indicator of whether you should try their platform or not. Flags and trust ratings are quite effective. A good business would definitely try its best to respond to accusations. If they don't care about it, either they don't think the customer here is important, or they are just scamming people. You can't really give them any blacklist or something similar if they don't really care. What newbies can do is probably learn and understand common scammers' tactics and avoid any platform that ticks the box. You can probably make an informative thread about it and request it to be pinned, it should help most new users without being too taxing for everybody.

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[peter0425]

the forum is different institution from gambling as it is pure business and Bitcointalk is about cryptocurrency .
though review is best for this but we must understand that we are in gambling because of our own decision and bitcointalk has nothing to do with it.
gamble at your own risk mate , there are reviews happening here in this forum and also you can ask first about the site you wanted to play with before engaging so you'll be safer then.

[Daltonik]

There is also a thread about bitcoin sportsbooks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 however, many of them also have online casinos.
But the OP's idea was to create a separate board about online casinos presented here on the forum, it seems to me sound and most user-friendly.

[Bitinity]

I remember there was someone created such thread few years ago. A thread where bitcointalk members vote for the best casino for the year but do you know the result? It does not represent the reality because non reputable casinos can offer a small reward for members to vote for them. It is just hard to have valid rating if it is based on vote or rating by bitcointalk members. Real rating should be given based on user's experience so if there will be such similar thread, there should be some requirements for those who are able to give rating or vote.

[Strongkored]

If it is done, there might be an accusation that the casino given a rating either has bribed forum members or vice versa casino or bookmakers who get good ratings feel owed to the forum members so they feel the need to give something special but this is only my opinion, so I think it's not important to have a review website and ratings board. What is posted in the announcement thread for each casino is enough to be a images of how the casino owners runs the casino.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is a good idea I must say, but unfortunately, suggestions as this never get implemented on this forum, if you check the Meta board, you will see and read a lot of good ideas that if implemented, could raise the standard of this forum by a good height, but then, it's just what it is.
The forum does not regulate businesses listed on this forum to know which is scam and which is legitimate, every user of this forum is expected to do their own research before engaging themselves in any of this businesses, so personally, I believe this is one of the reasons why ideas as this will never get implemented, even though it is a good idea.

[Rating Place]

Apparently, the request by members for casino review is becoming demanding due to some experience they have had with some casinos coupled with the complaints of account banning, suspension and poor customer care service which is now beginning to eat deep into casinos with claims of account holders defaulting their policies which if properly investigated, the gambler is not guilty of the penalty and actions metted against them. Some cases here onboard this platform have been sorted out with some gamblers being innocent and funds by winning being released to them while some casinos and their representative are no where to be found.
 Of lately, there have been some issues with casinos locking their thread preventing further discussion by members while directing members to their website customer care which is barely active in responding to members.

Nevertheless I was thinking if there could be a thread under the Economy board created separately for casinos review ( all casinos registered here) with star ratings whereby members could also take part in the ratings for casinos and their performance which would make them seat up doing things right. This would make all registered casinos and their various representatives onboard this platform to doing their work diligently in responding to customers and being active here.  However, if a casino fails to doing or resolving issues between a member and them and consecutively, such casino is being reported here and after much deliberation on the scam accusations board or reputation with no fruitful result, hence there is every possibility of blacklisting such casino by high rank DT1 and DT2 members after they have put efforts to resolving the issues but the casino fails to resolve.
With this, I think casinos would start being up and doing accordingly to avoid being blacklisted here because if they should get blacklisted, that means they are not upto standard for operating  here.
With this casino review and ratings board members both old and new would know better casinos to identify with and if any member chooses to identify with a casino after seeing their ratings and review to be very poor, that member would have no option than to face his or her problem by themselves when it dawn on them or if the case is otherwise.

This is an opinion which would welcome more contributions and possibly ways to develop this particular board if considered and deemed fit to hid to.

Thank you

A lot of poster reviews are in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

[CryptSafe]

Nevertheless I was thinking if there could be a thread under the Economy board created separately for casinos review ( all casinos registered here) with star ratings whereby members could also take part in the ratings for casinos and their performance which would make them seat up doing things right.

Casinos are just another type of businesses and they are already treated separately and have a pretty big part of the forum.
As businesses, one place for this could be in "Service Discussion".
As gambling businesses, this could go directly into Gambling. And, interestingly, if such a comparison/reviews topic gets traction, it will pretty much stay on the first page of gambling topics, so it should be OK.
Plus: if a gambling business doesn't act fairly, the Scam accusations (and maybe Reputation too) areas are welcoming the users with complaints.

So, sorry, I don't see why an entire area would be needed for reviews/rating only.
Keep in mind that there are nations present on this forum having only a single topic for themselves. Maybe this gives you a better idea.

No doubt casinos have the largest part of the board as they draw traffic and generate huge amount of money from their activities. Not only that, members benefit from their activities such as advertisement through signature campaign which they are paid in btc, bonuses and lots more.
Actually, I was not thinking of the forum creating a whole space for the reviews and ratings. It will just be at the top of the gambling board thread pinned there and possibly on the first page of the gambling board for a clearer view when members come online navigating towards the gambling board.

[Yogee]

.....However, if a casino fails to doing or resolving issues between a member and them and consecutively, such casino is being reported here and after much deliberation on the scam accusations board or reputation with no fruitful result, hence there is every possibility of blacklisting such casino by high rank DT1 and DT2 members after they have put efforts to resolving the issues but the casino fails to resolve.

Casinos would probably prefer settling accusations in court when there are information that cannot be disclosed here. They just say they have enough reason to believe that a user was cheating or exploiting their platform after their careful investigation. I've seen in the many accusation thread that casinos don't want to reveal how their system really works. The case will remain unresolved if they do that but that doesn't mean their refusal to share mean they are guilty.

[swogerino]

There is the ANN thread of each casino and I think there is enough space there to discuss pretty much everything related to the specific casino,including scam accusations,of course when someone has valid proofs because anyone can say whatever he likes when he feels that he has lost a lot of money and he is a bad loser,does not accept losing money that easily.

So the point of creating a thread to keep all the casinos rating in one would create an unnecessary mess as people would have difficulties seeing rating for each casino because a reply for one would be marked by a reply for another one and as such there is no reason to do this.

[Mauser]

This is an opinion which would welcome more contributions and possibly ways to develop this particular board if considered and deemed fit to hid to.

That's a nice idea and could create some new traffic for the forum here. The gambling section is quite big with a lot of casinos advertising here and many gamblers exchanging their ideas and strategies. Especially the sport betting section is very active with betting tips almost every single day. Having a more centralised form for casino reviews could be nice for new people looking for a new casino. But many members here on the forum have been around for years and already know most of the casinos. I would definitely give more weight to reviews written by forum members than by any other people online, as long as they are not getting paid for it. We wouldn't need some kind of supervision though that makes sure the claims in the reviews are true. Otherwise it could be easy for the competition to make some fake claims.

[leonair]

Bitcoin Forum is not affiliated with gambling. There is a separate section here to promote a gambling site and discuss gambling as gambling sites have now started accepting Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency payments. But I don't think a forum should do more than that. Gambling is a type of business but this is only a bitcoin discussion forum so I don't see any justification to have a separate casino review and ratings board on this forum.

[Eternad]

User can simply based on the trust rating of the casino bitcointalk account here to determine whether it is reputable or not because shit casino usually get the negative trust they deserve if they do a scam against forum user. There’s no such thing as demand for casino review here and most of the post asking for a preferred casino is coming from newbie that don’t use search bar or too lazy to do his own research.

Gamblingbro and BTCGOSU are already enough to become a reference for a casino review because they are run by a forum user for long time.

[panjul07]

If it is done, there might be an accusation that the casino given a rating either has bribed forum members or vice versa casino or bookmakers who get good ratings feel owed to the forum members so they feel the need to give something special but this is only my opinion, so I think it's not important to have a review website and ratings board. What is posted in the announcement thread for each casino is enough to be a images of how the casino owners runs the casino.

Exactly, for example is that those who are participating in the signature campaign will give great review to the casino although in fact they do not even play in the casino.
Other possible thing is about shilling accounts that are paid by the casino to give good review.
I also think that it is unnecessary for this forum to have rating board by bitcointalk members because basically we can see ourselves which casinos are reputable and safe to play.

[Eureka_07]

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I believe you can create a mega thread in relation to that which you had mentioned. I am not sure 100% though since we already have sub-boards that would categories that. Those boards are called Scam Accusations and the Reputation boards (both are under the Trading Discussion), I assume you are already aware of those.

[Haunebu]

I feel that is completely unnecessary op just like some of the posters above suggested because there are so many great ways to assess the credibility of a crypto gambling site in this forum already.

A simple search in this forum reveals literally everything that you would want to know about the casino that you are interested in.

[Ronsbit]

OP has a good idea but would it really be implemented if properly deliberated upon. As i see there is nothing wrong in creating such thread on the gambling board here for new members and those who have no idea about the gambling sites and there reputation. Although as i have gone round through the boards i noticed that gambling has  bigger and wider part of this platform as they business oriented and they make big profits. This would aid in guiding more members as well.

[NeuroticFish]

Actually, I was not thinking of the forum creating a whole space for the reviews and ratings. It will just be at the top of the gambling board thread pinned there and possibly on the first page of the gambling board for a clearer view when members come online navigating towards the gambling board.

Well, it was you who said first the magic word "board" , and that in topic title
A pinned topic, yes, that can work, but a topic doesn't even have to be pinned in order to be visible. As I said in my previous answer: make a topic with all the relevant info; if it gets enough traction and people keep talking there, it will be on the first page in Gambling and it should be good enough. If theymos and/or the mods will see that being maintained and useful for long enough time, they may pin it.

Just pinning a topic without proving its long time usefulness is risky; a topic can easily get outdated and because of that it'll show a casino being great, but in reality it's deserted (just as an example). You may be very active now and in 2 years you may no longer visit the forum; what will happen with the topic then?!

..just my 2 sats.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I feel that is completely unnecessary op just like some of the posters above suggested because there are so many great ways to assess the credibility of a crypto gambling site in this forum already.

A simple search in this forum reveals literally everything that you would want to know about the casino that you are interested in.

I can also add that sometimes, searching through this forum might not get one the desired results, most especially for those who don't know how to use the right keywords in their search, or searching an unpopular casino with not many reviews or no reviews at all yet from users.
In a situation like the above, users can always use search engines out side this forum for their research, not a must that every single thing must be done on this forum when it comes to gambling, this is absolutely not possible as far as i know.

[Mate2237]

It is a good idea of such board but there is a section which such issues are discussed in the forum. Which is this board/section so creating another one will be a duplication of boards, service board is also one of the board casino issues are discussed. But if the suggestion please the admin to create a separate board for the request it will be good one.

And one my concern on such issue is that, many casino companies in the forum are not doing well to respond to their or customer's complaints. If the casinos are doing well to their customers most of the allegations wouldn't be happening as a drama here.

Casino review sites are there in the internet, and most time we also make a reference from the online review centers to clear out point. So the two ways are alright. Either create or use the already existing ones.