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March 11, 2023, 11:03:12 AM
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A lot of gambling sites does offer a "self-exclusion" feature, but that is not nearly enough to stop a gambler from creating another account or to create an account at other casinos. So, when you do this at some Brick n mortar casinos, the CCTV will use face recognition to detect you.. and you will be asked to leave the building.

Some sites do not even have KYC requirements, so they cannot stop you ..even if they wanted to... and other sites will block your account, but they still send promotional emails to your email address.  Roll Eyes

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March 11, 2023, 11:15:45 AM
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If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.
Cigarette boxes have those helpline numbers because it is mandatory for them to put it on the boxes as a regulatory compliance.
But it doesn't get applicable on gambling casinos. But yeah if the regulatory authorities do implement such a policy where every gambling site has to put up helpline numbers to quit gambling then it would be a great idea.

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March 11, 2023, 11:23:06 AM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Do you really think those services from tobacco companies are gonna work? I'm not sure either, but I don't think it'll work. Those services were created just for the "extra mile" so people would think that these companies doesn't look really really bad at all. It's funny coz even in the cigarette packs, they have these campaign that says cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and throw some graphics of a sick person. It's really funny coz that's not even gonna work lol.
I thought the same goes for gambling. The only thing that'll work 100% is when a person decides to stop gambling on his own.

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March 11, 2023, 12:44:30 PM
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I believe that gambling platforms can provide a stop gambling service, but ultimately it is up to the gambler to take advantage of it. Quitting gambling is a personal decision, and if a gambler is not truly committed to stopping, they may continue to gamble despite the service being available. As for the idea of gambling sites being required to provide a helpline for quitting gambling, it is possible that regulatory authorities could implement such a policy in the future, if they have not done so already. (I am not familiar with all gambling regulations around the world.) I agree that it may not be effective for everyone. However, it does provide an additional option for those who are trying to quit.

In the end, it's really up to the person to decide to stop gambling. I personally believe that for those who struggle with severe gambling issues, seeking assistance from their loved ones and professionals in the field can be more effective than relying on legal regulations.

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March 11, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
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What do you think about this?
quite simple as you said about smoking cessation services but in the end more and more people are smoking. so that if gambling has a stop gambling service, it may also be ignored. because the only one who can stop gambling addiction is himself.

another opinion from me is that the gambling business is one of the businesses that wants to profit from its customers who bet on the gambling. In fact, on several gambling sites it has also been advised to gamble responsibly using money that you can afford to lose and not to be too addicted to sacrificing valuables for gambling.

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March 11, 2023, 04:02:16 PM
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every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up/
Do you think the smokers will use this service? even they wan to quit, they need to spend more money for counseling and guidance, most people think it's better to quit using their own way, but in the end they will keep smoking.

I have seen for myself that there are some people who are successful through services like this to quit smoking, although yes, many are not successful because it all comes back to the smoker/back to himself, as well as in gambling, but sometimes humans need encouragement from outside to get what he wants. and most people also can't do that because they don't really want to quit and or the gambler ignores what is suggested.

Your point is valid and should be implemented in the best interest of the gamblers but I would say that why would gambling sites want to safeguard the interest of the gamblers? They would want more and more gamblers to become addicted to gambling and in return get rekt and the gambling platforms become rich, Isn't right?

Yes, that's the nature of business people and it's a natural thing to get more profits, but reconsider if there are casinos that have services like that, won't they get more positive feedback from gamblers for having these services, and maybe if gambling is banned in an area by the government, I think there will be reconsideration because gambling platforms care about their customers and will definitely get positive support.
I am a gambler myself, as far as I visited many platforms during this time, I prefer to play on Stake because it has such a service, in the sense that they care about me as a gambler on their platform.
And when it's time for me to feel too addicted to gambling, then I want to stop and there is a service like that I will definitely try it for my steps to stop gambling.

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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

By responsible gambling company should be made to comply with effective self exclusion mechanisms and it's unfortunate that such pressure cannot be applied consistently to them in every country around the world. A proper self exclusion program should have options as high as 1 year or even 5. A problem gambler really is a detriment to society and no company should allow someone to create such a destructive situation for themselves.

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March 11, 2023, 04:51:06 PM
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quite simple as you said about smoking cessation services but in the end more and more people are smoking. so that if gambling has a stop gambling service, it may also be ignored. because the only one who can stop gambling addiction is himself.

another opinion from me is that the gambling business is one of the businesses that wants to profit from its customers who bet on the gambling. In fact, on several gambling sites it has also been advised to gamble responsibly using money that you can afford to lose and not to be too addicted to sacrificing valuables for gambling.
Indeed, no matter how will his environment change or even if a certain casino might create a plan for them if they want to gamble and gamble without limits it would be bad for them. Yes, OP's idea is possible but the thing is  certain thing can affects us but the final decision and the action will be from us. If we want to go beyond our limits then it would be bad for us, if we do not limit ourselves.
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I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.

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March 11, 2023, 06:38:44 PM
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What do you think about this?

Gambling had already services like this.  They even have a page dedicated to responsible gambling.  They have self-exclusion but I do not think it is enough since a player needs to voluntarily apply for it.  I do not think a casino will make a rule where they will force a player to stop gambling because it is not their right to stop them.  All they can do is remind the gambler sabout their situation and losses.  I also noticed that some gambling platform have timer that notify a player that they are playing for an hour or two, and temporarily paused the game waiting for the player's decision to continue or not.

I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.

I do think that gambling platforms can only remind its player to overcome gambling addiction, I don't think gambling platforms have the power to do it but only the player.
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I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.

Gambling addiction couldn't easily be stopped or healed through stop-gambling services and programs. Also, that's not a job and responsibility of a gambling casino and their focus is to keep their business running. If a person is experiencing compulsive gambling, advice will not work for the person anymore. He needs to undergo professional treatment or through a rehabilitation program. We can't expect casinos to focus on controlling gambling addiction though it's a good thing that some casinos are giving reminders to gamble responsibly.
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I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Do you mean like a counseling service to help gambler addicts provided by gambling platforms, isn't this something that is contrary to the business they run. so, I'm not sure about this idea. however, even if it were available, would it appeal to gambling addicts. Also, how big is the percentage of addicts who want to get rid of their gambling habit.

whereas, there is something simpler and easier, that almost every online casino has a self-exclusion feature. but, actually the problem is in the gambling addict himself. because most gambling addicts have difficulty eliminating their desire to gamble. well, so in essence, how does the addict gambler overcome himself. we know very well, that not everyone can handle it alone. most gamblers who are already conclusive gamblers, at least really need help. but on condition, has the intention to recover, but if there is no intention and determination, then he will still be a gambling addict. at least, the first step is to talk about it with the closest people, family for example, then find a solution to get rid of addiction.

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Lots of people are have gambling addiction problem, some of them start gambling just for fun, but at the end they always end up being addicted and its always difficult for addicted gamblers to stop gambling. I believe gambling site  won't implement the kind of futures which you just mentioned, gambling site are making there money and what they even want is that there customers should be losing so that they will be making money, and even with the service addicted gambler will still find it very difficult to stop gambling, and the more you lose money, the more gambling sites are making money.

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If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.

I don't think it will affect their business.

Those users who will put themselves on a self-exclusion program might be just 0.001% of the whole gamblers that are using the site (don't take the percentage seriously as I just used it as a figure of speech). Adding to that, we are not talking about whales here. Most whales know what they're doing that's why they reached the stage of being a whale.

Those are the loyal customers that needed to keep and not those who will stop, from what I view it.

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March 11, 2023, 08:46:50 PM
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If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.

I don't think it will affect their business.

Those users who will put themselves on a self-exclusion program might be just 0.001% of the whole gamblers that are using the site (don't take the percentage seriously as I just used it as a figure of speech). Adding to that, we are not talking about whales here. Most whales know what they're doing that's why they reached the stage of being a whale.

Those are the loyal customers that needed to keep and not those who will stop, from what I view it.
When it comes to actual numbers then for sure people would really be less into those who do really make use of those self exclusion features and when it comes to success rate for a gambler to completely
stop isnt guaranteed considering that to those who had decided to exclude out themselves is that they could still easily play if they wanted to and this is why its somewhat useless if you do ask me.

I agree on most points on here that this is really just looks like some sort of showing concern into their gamblers but in behind they are really that happy that they are spending too much
money into their platforms which we know this is where they do make money.

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March 11, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
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I think they are great and seeing them on a gambling platform that we are playing can mean that the operators behind it do also cares about their customer as much as they care about making money on this business.

If we think we are starting to get addicted, we can always talk to their customer support and they will give us advices. One of it is they will close our account either for temporary or permanently. I know it is still possible for us to create another account or play on other websites but it's up to us if we are not really committed on changing ourselves for the better. If the addiction is too strong, we can seek out professional help outside/offline.

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March 11, 2023, 09:05:52 PM
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Lots of people are have gambling addiction problem, some of them start gambling just for fun, but at the end they always end up being addicted and its always difficult for addicted gamblers to stop gambling. I believe gambling site  won't implement the kind of futures which you just mentioned, gambling site are making there money and what they even want is that there customers should be losing so that they will be making money, and even with the service addicted gambler will still find it very difficult to stop gambling, and the more you lose money, the more gambling sites are making money.
Some site are concern about the well-being of their players, and some have this kind of feature called responsible gambler, so I think some site are not that greedy because of they let their players to get more addicted, at the end they are still the one to be affected on this as well. You can ask the site to exclude you already and I think this is already happening on many site depends on how you will ask this to them.
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Not that bad for a gambling company to implement such a service to help gamblers minimize or lessen their gambling activity.

Although I just wonder if there are really gamblers that will consider being in service to control their gambling addiction.

Those said users will just stop using that site but just by simply browsing the web, lots of gambling sites around to attract them to play again.
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Well, to be honest it is the first time I have read about this, specially the example you provide about tobacco companies offering counseling to their clients who are aware they have got a problem. That is not a thing here, in my country if you are addicted to either alcohol, cigarettes or gambling then the laws assumes it is completely your responsibility (because you are adult, etc) and does not demand companies to have those programs.

In the end, those initiatives are carried out by non-profit organizations and the government.


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March 11, 2023, 09:18:43 PM
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Gambling platforms can provide a stop gambling service, but if gamblers do not want it, they will not use it and may even continue gambling. Quitting gambling is the desire of every gambler, and only gamblers can be sure that they really want to stop gambling once and for all.

And I don't think it will backfire on the gambling platform because that choice will return to each gambler. But if some gamblers finally decide to use the service, the casinos also don't do anything. Still, new people will play gambling and take the previous vacancies.

True. The end result will always be on the gambler's side and not the platform, but it's nice to have these stop gambling feature in the platform if in case the gambler wants to stop what he/she's doing and really make a difference on his/her habits and whatnot. It won't really hurt the platform, and in fact it might even be a reason for some gamblers to transfer to the casino just because they have this thing that they think benefits the gamblers the most. Pro-gambler platforms are always liked upon and supported by a lot of people, even though it's just a front and in reality, the platform still profits a lot from these same gamblers that supports them.
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