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March 12, 2023, 05:18:56 PM
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It is true that bitcoin investment is not a linear thing and there is this huge disappointment in people when things start to look like its not going to be alright. I personally understand the situation because it is frustrating to just focus on how you could make money when in reality it keeps getting worse. Plus, when you have real life issues and struggles, working extra hard becomes an issue as well, thank god I have the best boss the world has ever seen, he is not just a boss but a friend after this many years and I love him more than most of my family members and he understands the struggles of life and never pushes me. But you can't give up, work a small bit, even give a break if you have to, but keep grinding as much as you can, if you give up then you will never achieve anything.

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March 12, 2023, 05:51:41 PM
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Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
You should quit making it look like you're coercing your buyers into using Bitcoin for payment. You've to pipe low. Just hang a Bitcoin notice as an option of payment in your store or office but don't stress evangelizing its us, knowing you're in a fairly illiterate community. Accepting new things takes time to get used to on their own. I believe your people will get interested in using Bitcoin faster if the bonus you said you're offering is mouth watering. Something has to entice them. Other than that, they're not likely to try it out.

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March 12, 2023, 05:52:05 PM
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Just accept fiat then. It shouldn't be a problem since you can use the money to buy BTC which I think is also your goal. Say you accept cash deposits to a platform where you can easily access to buy BTC.

You are a cocoa producer, you can try promoting BTC but eventually, people will adopt BTC or crypto, banks will do it for you as they are collapsing.


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March 12, 2023, 06:25:16 PM
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The first thing you need to do to get them interested, especially young people with high enthusiasm, you have to provide some education and what benefits or advantages bitcoin will provide. than you force them in the beginning it will not be good and will not produce anything. But if you start introducing bitcoin slowly they will definitely think about bitcoin and start studying bitcoin. There are many ways this can be done, if you are patient you will get their interest in bitcoin. But yes, back again, there will be some people who are pros and cons of using bitcoin, and it also depends on how crypto regulations are implemented in your country.
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March 12, 2023, 06:44:27 PM
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I come from a hard-core farming family, and we are all involved in agriculture. I was able to get ( inherit) an acre of land from my parents, and I started my cocoa farming business in 2010. Since then, it has improved greatly, and I have been able to purchase a sizable amount of Bitcoin with the business, even though it is seasonal and can produce both good and bad results.

Although I did everything in my power to increase business adoption of cryptocurrencies, I gave away some Bitcoin and some other coins too, and Bitcoin was my primary goal to use as means of exchange , yet, I have failed badly.

Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. 

Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?

I guess the businesses of these two buyers you mentioned are still being run by the same old guys, their sons are merely the reps who are doing what the business owner tells them to. So how can you expect any change? And yeah, many people still think Bitcoin is some kind of ponzi and would avoid it. Can't blame them if they make a living from their business.
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March 12, 2023, 06:47:21 PM
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Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

If there is a good catch, I believe there will be.

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?

I think you are already there but have the wrong audience and probably strategy.  Giving away Bitcoin is not the right thing to do when you are in business especially if you are the producer and No one values anything that is given for free.  It is better to give a discount price if they pay on bitcoin, a 3%-10% discount is good enough motivation for the bulk buyers to use Bitcoin as a mode of payment.  Just give them a very good reason to use Bitcoin and if you did, you will be surprised how effective it is.

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March 12, 2023, 06:56:09 PM
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What advice do you have for me at this point?
You have tried to convince them to pay with bitcoin but they rejected your offer, you have tried but did you ask yourself if those people you are asking them to pay with bitcoin knows anything about bitcoin? You don't just expect someone that those not know anything about bitcoin to come to your farm and you will ask him to pay with bitcoin, definitely they won't accept your offer.

The best thing you should do is start introducing them to bitcoin whenever they come to your farm, you can start telling them about what bitcoin is all about jokingly.

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March 12, 2023, 07:10:43 PM
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What advice do you have for me at this point?
The best thing you should do is start introducing them to bitcoin whenever they come to your farm, you can start telling them about what bitcoin is all about jokingly.

This is too troublesome if you joke with your client about bitcoin, they will not take paying in Bitcoin seriously, the best move in introducing Bitcoin for payment is to tell them about an option of paying less if they pay in Bitcoin.  I think that will make them interested.  @OP can even make a banner of a price list showing a discounted price if they pay in Bitcoin or make promotional ads about the idea.  The client will ask it themselves since I believe as a customer we always want to pay less as much as possible.

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March 12, 2023, 08:06:53 PM
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This is too troublesome if you joke with your client about bitcoin, they will not take paying in Bitcoin seriously, the best move in introducing Bitcoin for payment is to tell them about an option of paying less if they pay in Bitcoin.  I think that will make them interested.  @OP can even make a banner of a price list showing a discounted price if they pay in Bitcoin or make promotional ads about the idea.  The client will ask it themselves since I believe as a customer we always want to pay less as much as possible.
You can't just expect customers to come to your farm and you ask them to pay with bitcoin just like that, you have to introduce bitcoin to them in a friendly way first that was why I said the OP should introduce bitcoin to them jokingly.
Someone that those not know anything about bitcoin, even if you ask them to pay less if they are paying with bitcoin, they will still reject the offer even with the discount, they will prefer to pay with fiat currency without discount.
Farmers in my country are mostly in rural areas, and most of them know nothing about bitcoin, so even if you are going to introduce bitcoin to them, it will be a gradual process.

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March 12, 2023, 08:36:08 PM
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This is too troublesome if you joke with your client about bitcoin, they will not take paying in Bitcoin seriously, the best move in introducing Bitcoin for payment is to tell them about an option of paying less if they pay in Bitcoin.  I think that will make them interested.  @OP can even make a banner of a price list showing a discounted price if they pay in Bitcoin or make promotional ads about the idea.  The client will ask it themselves since I believe as a customer we always want to pay less as much as possible.
You can't just expect customers to come to your farm and you ask them to pay with bitcoin just like that, you have to introduce bitcoin to them in a friendly way first that was why I said the OP should introduce bitcoin to them jokingly.
Someone that those not know anything about bitcoin, even if you ask them to pay less if they are paying with bitcoin, they will still reject the offer even with the discount, they will prefer to pay with fiat currency without discount.
Farmers in my country are mostly in rural areas, and most of them know nothing about bitcoin, so even if you are going to introduce bitcoin to them, it will be a gradual process.

That is true, you can't just expect them to follow what you said especially if they don't know about bitcoin.
But you can always say or post in your farm that you accept bitcoin. It is up to the buyer if they will pay or not.
Now, if someone is interested but don't know how to transact, then, that's the time you will assist them how to use bitcoin.
But if not, don't force them to pay you with btc. Let them willingly do the act so they won't feel harassed.
Going into this market should be voluntarily and not because you are oblige from someone, it would be good if you are not being forced into this market.
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March 12, 2023, 08:42:45 PM
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Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?

1. I don't know anyone in Agriculture that accepts Bitcoin and I think it is because most of them are old and are not ready to adopt Bitcoin.

2. Instead of giving out discount, you should collect fiat and use it to buy bitcoin for yourself. That way you are also helping with Bitcoin adoption.

3. You don't have to give up, if you as a farmer is into Bitcoin, I am sure that soon you will meet others just like you.

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March 12, 2023, 08:54:30 PM
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I'm not into that nature of business and that's one of the businesses that I find noble because if it's not for the farmers regardless of what you farm, what we shall eat?
IMHO, just keep on doing what you're doing and if you think that you've failed because of the customers that are not even eager to what you're explaining the benefits and discounts you're giving to them upon paying through bitcoin, that's okay. You don't have to stress yourself from within and just always be willing to accept bitcoin whenever you've got a surprising encounter from a random customer that's very open to that idea and who knows, one of your customers in the nearest future is also a bitcoin enthusiast for which you'll talk a lot about it.

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March 12, 2023, 09:09:08 PM
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Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?
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Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
It is not about what kind of agriculture will make Bitcoin become more popular. But this is about the readiness of the society around you with Bitcoin.Introducing Bitcoin to other people is exactly a very kind way to let more people know about the benefits of Bitcoin. But, it doesn't mean forcing Bitcoin on other people.
there is readiness of the people and it will be different. Those people may really not know about Bitcoin, or they may see Bitcoin as a very risky way. rather than forcing them because they don't really understand Bitcoin, it will be very risky, right?
Just let it be.
If someday there is someone who will pay you with Bitcoin, just accept it. But you can still continue to introduce Bitcoin, but not for forcing them and expecting too much to use Bitcoin as payment.

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March 12, 2023, 10:22:04 PM
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I come from a hard-core farming family, and we are all involved in agriculture. I was able to get ( inherit) an acre of land from my parents, and I started my cocoa farming business in 2010. Since then, it has improved greatly, and I have been able to purchase a sizable amount of Bitcoin with the business, even though it is seasonal and can produce both good and bad results.

Although I did everything in my power to increase business adoption of cryptocurrencies, I gave away some Bitcoin and some other coins too, and Bitcoin was my primary goal to use as means of exchange , yet, I have failed badly.

Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. 

Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
Just look at it on their perspective.
Do you see any means to pay with Bitcoin?
Would it be worth it?
Yes you are giving them discounts if they would pay you with crypto, but how about the fee? how about the process of buying crypto?
Don't you see their prespeuthat it isn't really that much of a help for them, instead it is just another work for them.
So they are choosing the easiest way for them to pay, I know that you just want to help them be aware of crypto but we couldn't force people to believe or like what we believe or like.



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March 12, 2023, 10:53:17 PM
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I think we shouldn't push ourselves too hard, for example we want people to buy using bitcoin,

I don't think it matters if for example people buy from us with cash
because it's the buyer's right,
I think it's better if you accept both cash and bitcoin as payment, so don't push yourself too hard, I think.
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March 12, 2023, 11:34:14 PM
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I think we shouldn't push ourselves too hard, for example we want people to buy using bitcoin,

I don't think it matters if for example people buy from us with cash
because it's the buyer's right,
I think it's better if you accept both cash and bitcoin as payment, so don't push yourself too hard, I think.
When the OP keeps on pushing them to make payment with bitcoin, don't be suprise that he will start losing customers because they will think he wants to scam them. I know some people that still believe bitcoin is ponzi scheme, have tried my best multiple times to explain to them but they don't believe, so the only thing I can do is to leave them, with time they will discover what bitcoin is all about. Old people and people in rural areas don't really know much about bitcoin, I think people in rural areas needs special awareness about bitcoin.

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March 12, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
Last edit: March 13, 2023, 12:13:17 AM by loopes
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Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?
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Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
It is not about what kind of agriculture will make Bitcoin become more popular. But this is about the readiness of the society around you with Bitcoin.Introducing Bitcoin to other people is exactly a very kind way to let more people know about the benefits of Bitcoin. But, it doesn't mean forcing Bitcoin on other people.
there is readiness of the people and it will be different. Those people may really not know about Bitcoin, or they may see Bitcoin as a very risky way. rather than forcing them because they don't really understand Bitcoin, it will be very risky, right?
Just let it be.
If someday there is someone who will pay you with Bitcoin, just accept it. But you can still continue to introduce Bitcoin, but not for forcing them and expecting too much to use Bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin are strange by the people who do not know about it's technology. You can not force them instead of educated them. But you have a good intention to make them be aware with bitcoin.
you have no obligation to make them be aware with bitcoin but it's not a mistake that you want to keep introducing bitcoin to your customers/your farming bussiness partners.
You can also make change in agriculture adopting blockchain technology that make them more interesting to know or use bitcoin as a new technology for them.

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March 13, 2023, 12:07:42 AM
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I would not give up entirely. You can still accept Bitcoin and adopt it in a way that you can balance it with your operations. There's no reason to just cut your efforts off. It will not look good especially to those you have already endorsed it. Maybe you need incentives? Increase your prices for fiat and/or have discounts for those who choose to deal with you in Bitcoin. If there's no incentive to choose Bitcoin over other convenient methods, then there's no reason for people to use it, especially if they care very little about the capabilities and impact that Bitcoin has on money.
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March 13, 2023, 12:29:03 AM
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Indeed, in this case, there are still many people who are not know with bitcoin, especially for making payments, so you have to be patient, friends, about this.
and in my opinion do not take this too seriously.
and it must be remembered that people's thinking is different, as well as the payment system, of course different wishes.
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March 13, 2023, 01:03:44 AM
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Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
Let's accept that not everyone are aware of Bitcoin existence even in urban areas where people are expose to new development. So what's more to those who are in agriculture sector? Hence it is understandable if they seem not updated to the current technology, not only because of their background but also because of their interest.

We can't expect everyone to know and think the same way like us, what matter is you tried. You didn't fail, it's just that, the people surrounding you are probably not techy or never heard yet about this digital currency.

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