Random Number Generator and it's importance in Online Casinos

[FatFork]

You could be right and I'm wrong, but I think that whatsoever is being programed to function, could actually be made to cheat.

Well, you're actually wrong. Some systems are designed to be trustworthy by using cryptography that prevents anyone from tampering with the outcome. Bitcoin transactions are also secured using cryptographic algorithms that ensure only the intended recipient can access and use the funds. Similarly, provably fair mechanisms use cryptography to make sure that data cannot be changed.

[harizen]

Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.

I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.

At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.

Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.

[jostorres]

And always remember, gambling is played for fun, not to make money. I don't find games like slots, roulette, dice and crash to be interesting enough, so I avoid them. I don't avoid them, because I'll lose money, I avoid them because they don't seem entertaining to me.

In reality, there are many gamblers out there who bet to get big money and profits, things like this naturally happen because everyone will definitely take advantage of all the ways that can provide large amounts of money, such as gambling.
From the observations and experience that I have gained, if you want big profits in gambling, it is better to choose to make sports bets because there we can easily get a win if we can understand and understand all the matches that are taking place.
If games like slots, roulette, dice, and crash can't make you feel fun, then what kind of game do you like to be able to have fun while playing?

Life has full of risk and so as gambling. If I were them I will calculate the risk first before deciding if I am going to bet huge or not. If only they will do this they will think twice if they will proceed with their plan or not. They can also proceed but they will now lower the amount that they are placing and as well as the odds that they are playing.

Like @davis said, gambling is meant to be for fun but if one can't fight this urge then you are right, that they better play sports betting because this wasn't totally based on luck but they can increase their chances of winning as long as they will dedicate time for research and analysis but again it will be better to not do over betting.

[seoincorporation]

I'm not sure if calling it "Random Number Generator" is the right term for this because the result from each bet comes from a crypto number generator, let me explain...

The result from the bet comes from the user seed and the client seed, normally mixed with the nonce, and that sting gets encrypted with sha256, and the last digits from that string (in hex format) get transformed to another format like decimal and there is where the bet result comes from. So, it's a crypto function behind it and not a random function.

[Silberman]

Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.

I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.

At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.

Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.

And you are doing the right thing, the RNG is important but it is not everything, since a casino may have the most perfect RNG but when it comes to the time you want to make a withdrawal they refuse to send you your coins as according to them you violated their TOS even when you know that was not the case, so we must take into account a lot of factors in order to determine the trustworthiness of a casino and not only consider a single factor like the RNG.

[TheGreatPython]

Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.

I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.

At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.

Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.

Majority of the players don't do that in my opinion, all they look for are some reviews and opinions of the community to trust a casino. Some also see if a casino is old or new or how many players it has. Different ways for different people to measure the honesty and trustworthiness of a casino platform.

An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.

[TimeTeller]

Personally, I feel that the RNG is the most important tool by which gamblers can measure an online casino's fairness, transparency, accountability, and honesty and that it operates in an ethical manner. For me this is the major role of the RNG in the online gambling industry.

I don't measure the casino's overall honesty thru RNG personally because, in the first place, I don't have the technical knowledge to know deeply how provably fair the game is. I always looked at their established reputation as a main factor in choosing the best online casinos.

At some point, I believed a reputable casino won't likely cheat by manipulating the algorithm of RNG or any related stuff.

Aside from the casino's reputation, another factor of mine is to always stick with the famous casino game providers since these providers won't be present at most casinos if their service is sh*tty and not trustworthy.

Majority of the players don't do that in my opinion, all they look for are some reviews and opinions of the community to trust a casino. Some also see if a casino is old or new or how many players it has. Different ways for different people to measure the honesty and trustworthiness of a casino platform.

An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.

That somehow is true, very few are looking at the provable fairness of the casino, once it is already established.
If you will ask players here on top casinos, if they are checking the fairness of their bet, high likely that they will say no.
In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.

[harizen]

In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.

And in some cases, there is surely a gambler that knows technically how to determine deeply the fairness of that site.

For sure, if they found something strange, they will question that said site.

Again as I mentioned, these reputable sites won't do some sh*t regarding the fairness of the game. That is something not make sense to do knowing how hard it is to gain people's trust and that it needs several years in making to make it happen.

[len01]

An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.

yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.

those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.

[kenshi222]

An average gambler is never very technical to understand difficult terms and things including RNG and provably-fair systems, etc. They just look at the things that they can understand and start gambling right away.

yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.

those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.

Most of the gamblers ideology is to get some fun from the gambling site.They won’t think about their profit or loss in the gambling site.Their are lot of gambling techniques and strategies to earn from gambling sites.But such one should be created on your own,because if you copy some others.It won’t be the your profit or loss,then we don’t know whether it works fully.If you get loss,you will started to blame others for the loss.Instead of blaming others create your own strategy to win or lose from the gambling sites.

[joniboini]

They won’t think about their profit or loss in the gambling site.Their are lot of gambling techniques and strategies to earn from gambling sites.But such one should be created on your own,because if you copy some others.It won’t be the your profit or loss,then we don’t know whether it works fully.If you get loss,you will started to blame others for the loss.Instead of blaming others create your own strategy to win or lose from the gambling sites.

I mean, knowing how the system works, including how their randomness is generated is key if you want to build a strategy to reduce your chance of losing. Unless you're talking about sports or something similar, it is difficult to dismiss how their RNG is generated. Sure, you don't look for profit but if you play on a guaranteed loss I doubt you'll have fun either.

But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.

It is not a bad idea to regularly test whether a platform is still serving its users as promised or silently change its algorithm to favor their side more. The recent case of Chipmixer shows that even an arguably popular platform can still hide something from its customers, even if they claim otherwise. It is also a good check and balance, if we can even use that term to describe this. if CMIIW.

[AicecreaME]

RNG is really important in casinos. It is important in gambling websites and any platform that involves gambling particularly those games which are luck-based because the results should be unbiased and as fair as possible. If there is no RNG, people will doubt the credibility of the outcomes most especially in slot games because it might be rigged and programmed to be in favor of the house which in this case, players will continue to lose due to low odds of winning. The good thing is, casinos do not handle the RNG. They have no access to it so that the game will be fair for both parties. There's a certain company which they get their RNGs on their specific games to draw numbers like you said, which is as random as possible.

But there are also websites, the fake and scam ones who do not have company where they get RNG, and rather make their own program and algorithm to show results in favor of the house to rip off the players. Hence, one must really do his research in order to not fall victim in these kind of sites.

[wiss19]

In most cases, if you know you are on a reputable casino, you wouldn't ask anymore about its provable fairness.
But some players will test it from time to time, just to see if the casino is indeed honest about it.
But RNG and other provably-fair systems are just secondary if the casino already earned their credibility.
Normally, you can find such question to a new gambling site, just to test that they are indeed implementing the provable fairness.

And in some cases, there is surely a gambler that knows technically how to determine deeply the fairness of that site.

For sure, if they found something strange, they will question that said site.

Again as I mentioned, these reputable sites won't do some sh*t regarding the fairness of the game. That is something not make sense to do knowing how hard it is to gain people's trust and that it needs several years in making to make it happen.

A reputable platform will never compromise on its quality of service only to gain an advantage of a few bucks over a player as they see the wider picture and understand how crucial it is to maintain the trust and reputation among the community as a gambling platform's reputation is a very sensitive matter, if a small issue comes up, every user becomes cautious and start doubting the trustworthiness of the platform.

And, if we talk about a casino that is new and isn't so popular or has much of a reputation or trust from the community, they may manipulate bets and stuff to cheat their players. If they do so, a normal gambler wouldn't really notice but someone with a technical background would notice and start questioning the authenticity of the platform right away.

[Silberman]

A reputable platform will never compromise on its quality of service only to gain an advantage of a few bucks over a player as they see the wider picture and understand how crucial it is to maintain the trust and reputation among the community as a gambling platform's reputation is a very sensitive matter, if a small issue comes up, every user becomes cautious and start doubting the trustworthiness of the platform.

And, if we talk about a casino that is new and isn't so popular or has much of a reputation or trust from the community, they may manipulate bets and stuff to cheat their players. If they do so, a normal gambler wouldn't really notice but someone with a technical background would notice and start questioning the authenticity of the platform right away.

And even if no one notices this will still have a massive effect anyway, one of the things that attract gamblers to a particular casino is to read the success stories of other gamblers, not only as they picture themselves having the same success, but also because from those stories they realize that casino is willing to make those big payments to their winners, however in a casino in which the results were manipulated then no one will win big, and as such they will not have those successful stories which can bring a lot of traffic to their website.

[Fundamentals Of]

I have read about how RNG works. But I always forget it after some time. But it doesn't really matter that much. Do we check each and every output released by these generators? Can we even check whether the generator isn't broken and its implementation is totally working? I don't think so. We mostly just trust that it is being audited and therefore working properly.

Most if not all crypto casinos are provably fair. It means its fairness can be verified and proven by any single gambler. I have tried and experimented with it in the past. But then I still don't check every result of a dice game whether it is fair or not. I think nobody does it.

[Strongkored]

yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.

those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.

Yes, not all gamblers are those who understand technology or all kinds of gambling systems which, if studied, might make gamblers able to be more careful in gambling or able to take into account all possibilities if they want to achieve something in their gambling activities, and I am one of them.
The system is designed to work according to the terms of online gambling, if it is used to harm players then when exploited it will destroy the casino's reputation and players will leave them because currently there are so many online casinos available so players will easily move if they feel something is wrong.

[tusandii]

yep that's right because not all gamblers care about techniques like RNG all they think about is betting and having fun. but actually if gamblers want to care about all the technicalities in gambling they will definitely bet more carefully because they know all about how the system works in online gambling.

those who don't think too much about RNG surely he's just a gambler who likes to spend money to have fun and hit the spin button on slot games.

Yes, not all gamblers are those who understand technology or all kinds of gambling systems which, if studied, might make gamblers able to be more careful in gambling or able to take into account all possibilities if they want to achieve something in their gambling activities, and I am one of them.
The system is designed to work according to the terms of online gambling, if it is used to harm players then when exploited it will destroy the casino's reputation and players will leave them because currently there are so many online casinos available so players will easily move if they feel something is wrong.

But not a few gamblers already understand this and they continue to play because they have experience playing gambling for a long time so that they can minimize the number of losses and implement a method or strategy to at least be able to win the game and take advantage.
The gambling industry consists of various gamblers from all over the world, so I'm sure there are many gamblers who are always careful and prioritize playing calmly so they don't get careless when playing.
Actually, gamblers already know that games in casinos have been designed by the system and have been aware of this for a long time, it's just that gamblers continue to gamble because it has become a habit and addiction so that all risks can be accepted and not thought about too much.
No casino would say they use a system because if they did they would be killing their own casino.

[len01]

The system is designed to work according to the terms of online gambling, if it is used to harm players then when exploited it will destroy the casino's reputation and players will leave them because currently there are so many online casinos available so players will easily move if they feel something is wrong.

RNG is designed to generate random numbers which means it looks fair for all gamblers, so that every gambler will experience wins and losses which we can categorize that for fairness.
So, systems like RNG are designed not to harm or cheat gamblers but to generate fair random numbers and each gambler will have his fair share of wins and losses.

No casino would say they use a system because if they did they would be killing their own casino.

what do you mean by system? and what do you mean kill their own casino?
are you kidding?
the casinos obviously wouldn't be able to tell anyone about the system they devised to make the casinos profitable.

[Silberman]

I have read about how RNG works. But I always forget it after some time. But it doesn't really matter that much. Do we check each and every output released by these generators? Can we even check whether the generator isn't broken and its implementation is totally working? I don't think so. We mostly just trust that it is being audited and therefore working properly.

Most if not all crypto casinos are provably fair. It means its fairness can be verified and proven by any single gambler. I have tried and experimented with it in the past. But then I still don't check every result of a dice game whether it is fair or not. I think nobody does it.

Most likely no one verifies each one of the bets they make, however the possibility is there for anyone that wants to try, the most obvious use we have to verifying our bets is that if we have a long streak of losses we may get suspicious about what is going on and think that maybe we could be victims of some sort of foul play, but if you check those losses and everything is fine then you know the casino is not manipulating the results and that you are just being unlucky.

[Agbe]

The system is designed to work according to the terms of online gambling, if it is used to harm players then when exploited it will destroy the casino's reputation and players will leave them because currently there are so many online casinos available so players will easily move if they feel something is wrong.

RNG is designed to generate random numbers which means it looks fair for all gamblers, so that every gambler will experience wins and losses which we can categorize that for fairness.
So, systems like RNG are designed not to harm or cheat gamblers but to generate fair random numbers and each gambler will have his fair share of wins and losses.

No casino would say they use a system because if they did they would be killing their own casino.

what do you mean by system? and what do you mean kill their own casino?
are you kidding?
the casinos obviously wouldn't be able to tell anyone about the system they devised to make the casinos profitable.

Random Number Generating is always favoured the system and not the player because those numbers are already configured by the system and it is just a spin game. Free spin games are always favouring the system and not the player and that is how the RNG also works. The player can only win if the gambler has small luck and not even big luck. And it is only in Lotto one can win big in random number generating by the gambler. So I don't really believe on the RNG system.