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March 22, 2023, 02:04:08 AM
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Sometimes we realize that the freedom we think about is actually a different kind of control, I find that each person's personal finances will be different, and everyone's criteria for freedom will be different.
When you earn money easily and it meets all the activities happening in daily life, as well as can bring you good accumulations of money without thinking.
Just like myself when I set a goal to earn a lot of money when I was young and enjoy a comfortable life before the age of 30old. And indeed now I am very comfortable with what I have, and even without money I still feel freedom, liberated by financial constraints.
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March 22, 2023, 02:17:45 AM
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To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.


I also think so, there are times when we live for the sake of chasing money or rather living for money instead of making money to live, money is not a benchmark for a happy life, and of course there is even a lot of happiness that is obtained from everything that is bought by money , but when we feel grateful for the money we earn from our own hard work, to make ends meet and look a little back at the struggle in achieving that without looking at the value of the money we earn and comparing it to others, we can get happiness for the heart our little.
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March 22, 2023, 04:27:40 AM
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At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.

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March 22, 2023, 04:43:43 AM
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You sound similar to Schopenhauer's philosophy. People often in pursuit of financial freedom lose their present (which is all there ever is), so all this chase appears fruitless.

What one could do is live in present moment, try to make right decisions in moment and let these choices unfold themselves. Living in moment is happiness, past/future is misery.

Don't burn yourself out after making money. Basic needs can't be escaped.

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March 22, 2023, 01:45:20 PM
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I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

This is not just a fleeting thought but a serious conversation that needs to be indulged in . People lose themselves in the pursuit of money and this makes them do all sort of things. They can take the life of someone if they perceive it to be an obstacle to them in getting to the financial gain they are chasing. I see the ultimate reason for this as greed. In the business word, a business opponent sometimes is seen as an enemy and they are frustrated to go out of business like it is been debated between USA and China in what looks like a business or trade war.
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March 22, 2023, 02:26:24 PM
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At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.
You are still quite lucky because as mentioned only experienced 2x failures to achieve what you want. People out there are not as lucky as you, so it's basically a way of life to achieve coveted financial freedom. Even now, those who are elderly also do not necessarily get this freedom, especially in financial matters. The point is not how many times we fail, but how wisely we match ourselves with the financial conditions that can be achieved and place that portion of freedom in the context of our respective abilities.

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March 22, 2023, 02:37:32 PM
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We can no longer dispute the fact that money can buy everything these days, even your happiness. It's convenient to have more money because you can do whatever you want, buy whatever you want, eat whatever you want, and get a house or sports car, which makes people happy. When you have a goal, you work toward it and are satisfied when you achieve it. A human's pursuit of happiness is an endless desire. Simply follow your happiness.
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March 22, 2023, 02:39:31 PM
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At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.
You are still quite lucky because as mentioned only experienced 2x failures to achieve what you want. People out there are not as lucky as you, so it's basically a way of life to achieve coveted financial freedom. Even now, those who are elderly also do not necessarily get this freedom, especially in financial matters. The point is not how many times we fail, but how wisely we match ourselves with the financial conditions that can be achieved and place that portion of freedom in the context of our respective abilities.

I assume he just went through one failure, leaving his burgeoning business to find another one. As for the loss in crypto investment, I don't think it's worth mentioning because I believe that the people who make a profit in this market have lost hundreds of times before succeeding. If crypto investing is considered a failure, even I have lost money investing in altcoins in the past, even so, many times that I can't remember them all.

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March 22, 2023, 03:08:08 PM
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For everyone now in the use of the digital cryptocurrencies would have experienced something bad with the traditional fiat system before joining the train of cryptocurrency, all these begins with when we cannot confide trust in their fiat system anymore, when it all seems there's no way out and we cannot have control over our asset because of their constituted authorities, cryptocurrency set in a change the entire play to fight for us and render the lost freedom back to everyone.

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March 22, 2023, 05:49:49 PM
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I think preparation needs to be done because the cost of living from day to day is increasingly erratic, but don't overdo it. Let ourselves manage money, not money that controls us, even though it's a necessity. One of my efforts is by participating in several projects that have been provided in this forum. Honestly, I myself always try to divide my time in finding additional living expenses even though I already have a steady job and get a monthly salary which I feel is enough for me and my family.
What do you exactly mean by don't overdo the preparation? I think there is no harm if we over do it but it will only make our lives even better for many more months/years to come. There are people who can spend on almost anything that they like even though most of those are not really needed or beneficial in the long term.

It's not that these people are being controlled or being a slaved of money but it's because these people don't have a control for themselves. If you feel your income is already enough then why will you need to find side line jobs? It would be better if you only use those time to enjoy yourself more or spend that time with your family, also to make them more happy.

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March 22, 2023, 06:28:20 PM
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working too hard sometimes carries a burden that continues to accumulate in our minds and mentally. so sometimes we must have felt bored and bored. and actually it is a sign that our psychology is too tired and needs a holiday by making fun. and if it is allowed then it can make us become stressed.

sometimes I get too focused on raising more money and forget to reward myself. whether it be a vacation or other pleasures. so sometimes there is a point where I am lazy to do anything. which means I have been mentally exhausted. but I always overcome it by going on vacations or taking time to have fun. so that my mood is good again and more excited to pursue my goal of financial freedom.

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March 22, 2023, 06:32:50 PM
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I think preparation needs to be done because the cost of living from day to day is increasingly erratic, but don't overdo it. Let ourselves manage money, not money that controls us, even though it's a necessity. One of my efforts is by participating in several projects that have been provided in this forum. Honestly, I myself always try to divide my time in finding additional living expenses even though I already have a steady job and get a monthly salary which I feel is enough for me and my family.
What do you exactly mean by don't overdo the preparation? I think there is no harm if we over do it but it will only make our lives even better for many more months/years to come. There are people who can spend on almost anything that they like even though most of those are not really needed or beneficial in the long term.

It's not that these people are being controlled or being a slaved of money but it's because these people don't have a control for themselves. If you feel your income is already enough then why will you need to find side line jobs? It would be better if you only use those time to enjoy yourself more or spend that time with your family, also to make them more happy.

Our preparation usually depends on our goal. There are people who are contented in earning enough to sustain their living while others are more motivated to grind and work harder to save more to afford what they want in the future. I see nothing wrong with over-preparation as long as we know how to manage our time and balance everything including our health.
In the current economic situation, we have right now, it is not ideal to be just contented because we still don't know what tomorrow may bring so it's better to have enough savings for emergency purposes in the future.
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March 22, 2023, 06:58:10 PM
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We can no longer dispute the fact that money can buy everything these days, even your happiness. It's convenient to have more money because you can do whatever you want, buy whatever you want, eat whatever you want, and get a house or sports car, which makes people happy. When you have a goal, you work toward it and are satisfied when you achieve it. A human's pursuit of happiness is an endless desire. Simply follow your happiness.
It's true that on average people will find it easier to find happiness if they have lots of money because they can buy whatever they want like you said. Even if someone has problems in his life while he has a lot of money, he will also find it easier to solve these problems and will not drag on for too long in sadness. This means that money is part of the happiness of all people in this world, so there is no reason to keep away from making money through working regularly every day.
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March 22, 2023, 08:46:00 PM
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Actually life is the name of hard work you have to work more and more, sometimes you will win and sometimes you will loss and I think that there is no one who will says that this money is enough now he will not earn more but instead every individual wants to make more money than this.

Getting boring with money earning is not possible but a man become bore when he tries to make money and he failed regularly.  Money is important for life activities but losing your everything for money does not sound good. A man who have more money will still desires to choose better way to earn extra income because people never get bored of getting money.
Man in nature has no life’s satisfaction nor contentment, especially when money is involved. He will always want to chase for more opportunities to gain more money so he can earn more until financial stability is achieved. Although we can’t say the process is all smooth, as there are some pitfalls along the road, but if it’s for money, man will do everything until he eventually feel lost in pursuit of financial freedom. And that’s when we start thinking if man lives for money, or man should live for happiness. Because the reality is, we only feel the happiness inside when everything is good especially with money matters.
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March 22, 2023, 09:32:17 PM
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For everyone now in the use of the digital cryptocurrencies would have experienced something bad with the traditional fiat system before joining the train of cryptocurrency, all these begins with when we cannot confide trust in their fiat system anymore, when it all seems there's no way out and we cannot have control over our asset because of their constituted authorities, cryptocurrency set in a change the entire play to fight for us and render the lost freedom back to everyone.
But in the end we still can't go against the traditional fiat system if crypto is banned in our country, it must be admitted that the system that existed before was really bad and did not provide a basis for creating financial freedom, starting from not being able to maintain value and the impact of inflation greatly affected the currency Fiats ever existed.

While bitcoin offers differences from existing systems and most importantly bitcoin can retain the value of the investment and we have full control over the assets we own, these are the real advantages offered by bitcoin.

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March 22, 2023, 09:41:04 PM
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Things do not come for free. You have to make an effort in order to get a result, and therefore the rate of that is what gets you to the result.
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships and stop many of the things you love in order to achieve this dream.

After 5 years you can live a normal life. Therefore, the feeling of loss must be temporary, otherwise it will be harmful.

I don't think its as easy as that. Stopping yourself for a period of two to five years won't help you achieve your dream of financial freedom. If it were that easy everybody would do it. Avoiding relationships and stopping many of the things you love is exactly the reason you get lost in the pursuit of financial freedom. While you pursuit financial freedom, try to live a normal life, have a life. Enjoy the moment. I don't believe in order for you achieve financial freedom then you wont have a life.

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March 22, 2023, 10:50:29 PM
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Everything has consequences,
Working hard = Big income
But time to enjoy free time is reduced due to busy work or business. Work with middle to lower salary levels even though they time for work is same, but at home you can still rest and weekends will be free but the income is not big. Although there are also those who build up a business, then later he hands over all work to employees and people he trusts so he has free time.
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March 22, 2023, 11:27:22 PM
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I believe every person that's a self-made millionaire or billionaire that we are seeing today has once felt lost in their pursuit of a dream or financial freedom. What matter is how you solve the issues by learning from the previous mistake made and working on the solution of getting it right. We need to know that nothing comes easy. Everything in life is hard even eating is hard, I have seen someone that die just by eating food but it depends on how you choose your hard.

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March 23, 2023, 02:14:11 AM
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Things do not come for free. You have to make an effort in order to get a result, and therefore the rate of that is what gets you to the result.
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships and stop many of the things you love in order to achieve this dream.

After 5 years you can live a normal life. Therefore, the feeling of loss must be temporary, otherwise it will be harmful.

I don't think its as easy as that. Stopping yourself for a period of two to five years won't help you achieve your dream of financial freedom. If it were that easy everybody would do it. Avoiding relationships and stopping many of the things you love is exactly the reason you get lost in the pursuit of financial freedom. While you pursuit financial freedom, try to live a normal life, have a life. Enjoy the moment. I don't believe in order for you achieve financial freedom then you wont have a life.

Fair enough. Stopping for a few years won't help most of us achieve financial freedom but will sacrifice a normal life that anyone should have built. Actually I have been through that period, knowing exactly what it was like. I did not become financially free, although I made pretty good savings, in contrast, I lost so much time and effort that should be spent in building relationships with my family and friends.
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March 23, 2023, 02:29:47 AM
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There are many ways to achieve financial freedom, most of what people do is do business or join a franchise, but all of them need expertise and a good financial system, if we are still poor and finances are still small then it's better to invest, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is a good opportunity to earn big profits and even financial freedom because the price has the opportunity to skyrocket in the future.
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