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June 14, 2023, 08:53:25 PM
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I don't know if I missed any line but I didn't see you guys talking about kyc and its terms because I'm very sure you already  know how much people want to be certain of their privacy.
Another thing is your terms and conditions  and how manipulated it can be because lately, we've had alot of discussions  along with alot of controversies about how casinos and gambling houses use their terms and conditions  against their customers and end up ripping them of their winnings.
I want to plead that you stay transparent in your dealings and also try your best to be considerate in all you do.
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June 29, 2023, 12:17:15 AM
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And that's where the bad is, why? because initially there was not so much control over the casinos, now yes, when a few years ago they saw casinos with bitcoin they did not take them into consideration , now that bitfoin is so Booming , it has so many things that the governments can do, they saw the form of Take those things or those profits for them to eat from there, that's what I don't like , I don't agree and I never will , because people don't let them be free, and yes , it's difficult because when we see the way to governments always limit them to win , so for me that is Playing dirty.

Are casinos truly victims of government intervention and lost freedom? Or are they simply playing by the societal rules to maintain order? In a world where legalities govern our actions, isnt compliance necessary to maintain credibility?

When Bitcoin entered the picture, the anonymity it provided led to an upheaval of the traditional system. Its undeniable! Yet, when we champion for 'freedom', should we not also consider its consequences? Anarchy isnt the answer, my friend! And thats precisely what unlimited freedom, without checks and balances, could lead to.

True, its unfortunate that cryptocurrencies are used to fund illegitimate activities, yet isn't that the price we pay for the lack of regulation? Would you want your Bitcoin investments to be a free-for-all, open to manipulation without oversight?
I think that absolutely everyone knows that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should not be supervised by governments, banks, or control organizations, because this is what fiat money is for, bank records, the very large money movements that exist are not enough. ? I think that centralism is not the solution, it is known that governments tell people that they are going to protect them in order to obtain all their data and activities, because if they are Outside the range that they manage, then it is already wrong , and if a person benefits from money that is outside the normal range, it is already an imbalance, and if there are many who follow this path, the imbalance will always be greater, and at some point it will be uncontrollable, then for such a reason I think that Governments come in with regulations, with resources like KYC for Casinos.

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June 29, 2023, 04:24:26 AM
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I think that absolutely everyone knows that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should not be supervised by governments, banks, or control organizations, because this is what fiat money is for, bank records, the very large money movements that exist are not enough. ?
Bitcoin is unique and it should not be supervised by those government authorities but altcoins are different, not unique and they must be supervised.

Altcoins are very centralized and scammers can use altcoins to scam investors. They did many scam altcoin projects and will continue to make more new scam altcoins. Without supervision from government and their agencies, scammers will have a paradise for their scam activities which is not good at all.

I support more regulations from governments but will new and stricter laws, legislation, not arbitrarily regulate it like Gary Gensler and SEC. are doing.
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June 29, 2023, 05:58:13 AM
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wait , is there any ratio how many players you gather after promoting here in Bitcointalk?
because it seems that you stopped collaborating from our precious forum here?
I don't know if I missed any line but I didn't see you guys talking about kyc and its terms because I'm very sure you already  know how much people want to be certain of their privacy.
Another thing is your terms and conditions  and how manipulated it can be because lately, we've had alot of discussions  along with alot of controversies about how casinos and gambling houses use their terms and conditions  against their customers and end up ripping them of their winnings.
I want to plead that you stay transparent in your dealings and also try your best to be considerate in all you do.
well that is one of the issue that's why OP is gone now because he cannot address all the question given here.

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June 30, 2023, 08:47:25 PM
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I think that absolutely everyone knows that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should not be supervised by governments, banks, or control organizations, because this is what fiat money is for, bank records, the very large money movements that exist are not enough. ? I think that centralism is not the solution, it is known that governments tell people that they are going to protect them in order to obtain all their data and activities, because if they are Outside the range that they manage, then it is already wrong , and if a person benefits from money that is outside the normal range, it is already an imbalance, and if there are many who follow this path, the imbalance will always be greater, and at some point it will be uncontrollable, then for such a reason I think that Governments come in with regulations, with resources like KYC for Casinos.

I don't think the government claim to offer protection for people who execute the KYC because it's something introduced for the casino to know their customer and it actually comes into the picture when some gamblers are using casino to launder money.

well that is one of the issue that's why OP is gone now because he cannot address all the question given here.
Guys, don't make false claims. Are you in talk with the OP? How do you know the OP is gone because she/he can't address all the questions presented on this thread?

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June 30, 2023, 11:58:50 PM
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KYC is usually enforced in order to comply with regulations and to avoid troubles with regulatory entities. But it's also a mean to protect the casino or any other service provider from cheaters and abusers. By knowing the identity of the customer, the service provider knows whom they are dealing with and take the appropriate action.
Regulations and strict rules aren't always a bad thing. It serves to protect the casino but also the customer.

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July 05, 2023, 06:49:16 PM
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KYC is usually enforced in order to comply with regulations and to avoid troubles with regulatory entities. But it's also a mean to protect the casino or any other service provider from cheaters and abusers. By knowing the identity of the customer, the service provider knows whom they are dealing with and take the appropriate action.
Regulations and strict rules aren't always a bad thing. It serves to protect the casino but also the customer.
For the casino yes but for the customer? In what way it can protect them? I can only see a risk of sending KYC online. What if the platform turned to be a scam later on? If not, they can still get hacked and the KYC can be stolen and misused by the criminals. Only the owner of those ID's are going to suffer but there might be a way to tell that they are not guilty once someone accused them unexpectedly.

There is no problem asking a KYC outside cryptos but it seems not right if they ask inside when the aim of cryptos is decentralization. Regulators shouldn't worry because the people who deals on it already know the risk and they are responsible for it.

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July 12, 2023, 10:23:22 PM
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I think that absolutely everyone knows that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should not be supervised by governments, banks, or control organizations, because this is what fiat money is for, bank records, the very large money movements that exist are not enough. ?
Bitcoin is unique and it should not be supervised by those government authorities but altcoins are different, not unique and they must be supervised.

Altcoins are very centralized and scammers can use altcoins to scam investors. They did many scam altcoin projects and will continue to make more new scam altcoins. Without supervision from government and their agencies, scammers will have a paradise for their scam activities which is not good at all.

I support more regulations from governments but will new and stricter laws, legislation, not arbitrarily regulate it like Gary Gensler and SEC. are doing.

It is so, what I base it on is the reality for which bitcoin was invented, it was not invented to be subject to regulations of any kind, neither by governments, nor by banks, nor by third parties, it is free, it should not be noticed by anyone, with respect to the altcois, yes, it may be that there are many scam projects, even so they are cryptocurrencies that at one point there should not even be regulations for those either, what a psa is that the governments seeing that they do it have no participation nor do they put money from there as evidence to be able to regulate, control, among other things, and I will never support the initiatives that governments have to regulate cryptocurrencies.

Of course, I am saying this solely based on Bitcoin, the cryptocurrencies that are derived from it already have another meaning, some are in favor of many things, control, privacy, there is already a wide variety of them, but as for Bitcoin, it is what interests me. I mean.

KYC is usually enforced in order to comply with regulations and to avoid troubles with regulatory entities. But it's also a mean to protect the casino or any other service provider from cheaters and abusers. By knowing the identity of the customer, the service provider knows whom they are dealing with and take the appropriate action.
Regulations and strict rules aren't always a bad thing. It serves to protect the casino but also the customer.
For the casino yes but for the customer? In what way it can protect them? I can only see a risk of sending KYC online. What if the platform turned to be a scam later on? If not, they can still get hacked and the KYC can be stolen and misused by the criminals. Only the owner of those ID's are going to suffer but there might be a way to tell that they are not guilty once someone accused them unexpectedly.

There is no problem asking a KYC outside cryptos but it seems not right if they ask inside when the aim of cryptos is decentralization. Regulators shouldn't worry because the people who deals on it already know the risk and they are responsible for it.

Yes, that is the point that I say, if there is a great probability that the site could suffer a hack, all that data who knows what hands it will go to, and they will have confidential information about everything, even the players who are whales, So this is the main reason why KYC is dangerous and this also supports what I said about Bitcoin, that KYC should never be requested.

I understand that casinos have to comply with their licenses and requirements, but I have rarely seen casinos that think about their clients, because as you say, the casino protects itself, but the client remains unguarded, and since it is a crypto casino, well Based on crypto such a thing as KYC should not exist, what governments care about, what third parties care about, we are not interested in them, well if they are interested in our money, nothing else.

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