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March 19, 2023, 06:08:01 PM
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In my observation, I see all immense businesses are the only place where secrets are been inconspicuous, and why is it so? Because that's the only thing that makes their businesses explore more and since the business is owned by a successful man who has leverage even from the government authorities, the poor who do suffer from their conditions will be tight-lipped because no one to speak on their behalf.
I agree every form of success requires some level of deep secrete and the level of the secret determined the impact and growth profits of the business, let's just get used to that no business can succeed without some form of secret success tips.

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March 19, 2023, 07:26:25 PM
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Not all businessmen are dirty, and you don't have to get your hands dirty in your business to be successful, this is a wrong way of thinking, I do not agree because I have my conscience, I can't ruin people's lives because I want to be successful and not ruining peoples life won't stop me from been successful either, those who have dark secrets believe that this is the only way to turn the table around, they took a short cut instead, it depends on your belief, what you believe in is what will work for you.

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March 19, 2023, 08:10:55 PM
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I’m not sure if I would categorize gambling as having dark secrets. Most casinos are pretty open about the fact that they make lots of money, and some of them even clearly display odds so that players aren’t misled about the possibilities. I guess their secrets would be things like no clocks and exits that take you through a maze to get out of the casino, but even those are fairly well known.
frankly speaking I really don't get what op is trying to derived. What op is saying does not have affliction with sport and gambling. Op is talking about business which is a general phenomenon, and this not the first time I have been hearing such allegations against rich people in the world. This has been argued in many occasions. Casino is very far from what op is saying. Let come the business, I will disagree with op that casino cannot be categorized with the businessmen that are rich which have secrecy in their businesses. Though casinos might involved in one thing to the other. I will only agree on the aspect that businessmen are secretly involved in one thing to the other, yes because they are in cartel and they are the cause of inflation which the ordinary people suffer in the society.
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March 19, 2023, 08:22:55 PM
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Not all businessmen are dirty, and you don't have to get your hands dirty in your business to be successful, this is a wrong way of thinking, I do not agree because I have my conscience, I can't ruin people's lives because I want to be successful and not ruining peoples life won't stop me from been successful either, those who have dark secrets believe that this is the only way to turn the table around, they took a short cut instead, it depends on your belief, what you believe in is what will work for you.

Not all businessmen have to go thru their dirty laundry. Some are just happy with what they have.
So yes, not all of them are hiding something to uplift their standards in the chosen market.
There will always be rumors on what these rich businessmen have to go thru, but it doesn't define this type of people in general.
Also, if you belong to their category, the important thing is your conscience is clear so you can live your life without looking on your shoulder.
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March 19, 2023, 08:23:03 PM
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There was a billionaire man in my country who people thought had some dark secrets behind his wealth because he always lost someone in his family every year, but that was just some coincidences, the man was plain and transparent, and there was nothing dark that was linked to his wealth from all his doings. Apart from that, there is no bad incident I have heard; most times, it is just what people choose to believe because of what they see.

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March 19, 2023, 09:20:31 PM
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People can do good things and bad things but I highly disagree that every successful business progress because they do underhand tactics and abuse people to the point of committing crimes.  Not all businessman or company owner are crooked, others often offers charity works to the community as way of paying back to the people who help them grow.

Besides, if your argument about people getting successful because they do gambling, I think you are wrong to think that gambling is a criminal act.  In many country, gambling is legal, even establishing gambling platform and establishment is encouraged because it helps in the nation's growth and development.

All these so called dark secret are just rumors unless proven by proofs.
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March 19, 2023, 09:44:14 PM
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This could be more possible in gambling business, but other market might be different.
Maybe they are just window dressing their financial status so they can attract more investors and I guess most of the company are doing this and they are not declaring their actual transactions just to avoid paying huge taxes. I also believe that most of the business have their own dark secret, most of them are greedy as well. Anyway, as long as you are not affected by this you should care less, and in gambling as long as the site is paying and its fairness is still ok, you can still proceed.

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March 19, 2023, 10:27:40 PM
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There was a billionaire man in my country who people thought had some dark secrets behind his wealth because he always lost someone in his family every year, but that was just some coincidences, the man was plain and transparent, and there was nothing dark that was linked to his wealth from all his doings. Apart from that, there is no bad incident I have heard; most times, it is just what people choose to believe because of what they see.
Does this have something to do with the mystical? Actually I don't want to discuss things like this, but it seems interesting if we talk about things that are beyond logic.
I heard that in some remote places there are indeed many stories that are exactly like what you told, starting from sacrificing family members to achieve wealth. I actually believe or not believe in this kind of thing, but indeed many people talk about it and from a visible point of view, the story is indeed in line with what is seen from that person.
I want to ask the people here, is it true, or is it just a myth that has been exaggerated?  Grin

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March 19, 2023, 11:06:53 PM
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You mean like in gambling it's a dark secret that there are losers and winners? I have idea about the other dark secrets that do happen in physical casinos where you'll just get to see it there once you're already there. And it's funny that these days, these videos on socials have been popping on my feed and showing those dark secrets which are no longer secret anymore as it becomes a norm. Well, that's it, it could be dark secrets for the new ones that have just found it out but it's not actually hidden thing these days.

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You can call it mystical because that is what some people believe it to be, but to me, it's just a bit of false logic. I find it difficult to believe such stories. Dark secrets bullshit. All I know is that most successful men have some hidden tips and stories about their success. Let's just take for instance the movie I watched, where two staffers who were working in the same office, but one was buying shares in an oil company without telling his college about his investment, got to a point where he became the number one shareholder of that company, and when his money was ripe, he bought the company where he was working and became the boss to his college. These are just things that successful people do; they would not tell you everything, and they always have something they are not saying that makes their success grow, but not dark secrets.

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March 20, 2023, 01:54:57 AM
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In my point of view it is not correct to talk about in a wide way or refer to this mater to dark secrets of the "business", but refer to it as dark secrets of "companies".

Legal and everyday businesses are neutral, but there are companies and entities which are willing to go into devious practices to increase their profitability, and that does not only happen in housing or gambling, but also in food industry, science & technology, etc.

While there are meat companies that treat their animals as humanely as possible, others are brutal to them for the sake of production.

While there are banks who seek for a steady and safe growth for their capital and their clients', there are others which are willing to gamble and risk it.

And in those circumstances, it is fertile ground for things like bribery, death threats,etc.

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March 20, 2023, 02:14:22 AM
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There are dark secrets everywhere, not just in every successful business. There are also dark secrets in every failed business. There are also dark secrets in businesses that never saw the day. I mean dark secrets are everywhere.

Can you name billionaires the level of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who became successful because of betting? Is there even one? If some became billionaires because of betting, it's probably because they're involved in the casino business, not just because they're betting or gambling.
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There are dark secrets everywhere, not just in every successful business. There are also dark secrets in every failed business. There are also dark secrets in businesses that never saw the day. I mean dark secrets are everywhere.

Can you name billionaires the level of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who became successful because of betting? Is there even one? If some became billionaires because of betting, it's probably because they're involved in the casino business, not just because they're betting or gambling.
I agree, I do not understand how this could be news to anyone, it is well known that Bill Gates used all kind of monopolistic tactics to make Microsoft what it is today, and the same is probably true for Google, Facebook or any tech company of today.

The most interesting question is where was the government when all of this happened? Governments are supposed to stop monopolistic practices and not only they failed to do this they even benefit from this, as those companies give their information to the governments and they monitor their population in this way.

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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.

They didn't became what they are because of betting. I found quora post about Gates playing poker which appears he used to play for fun, as long as you gamble for fun it's fine.

Zuckerberg and gambling, source?


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March 20, 2023, 05:13:39 AM
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You mean like in gambling it's a dark secret that there are losers and winners? I have idea about the other dark secrets that do happen in physical casinos where you'll just get to see it there once you're already there. And it's funny that these days, these videos on socials have been popping on my feed and showing those dark secrets which are no longer secret anymore as it becomes a norm. Well, that's it, it could be dark secrets for the new ones that have just found it out but it's not actually hidden thing these days.
I think what is meant by this dark secret is about how a business owner can get such a fortune that he can run his casino or what is behind the casino entrepreneur so that he can grow his business so big because we know that competition in the gambling business in cities regulations that allow gambling is very strict. Hence, it is not easy for business owners to develop their gambling business.

But I believe that every business owner must have dark secrets that he keeps for himself or those who are close to him. And we also don't have to try to find out and it's best to let it be their dark secret. We better play gambling and just enjoy it.

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someone who owns a business and becomes bigger and successful it's all because there is a very big will and intention. because all the keys to success are in ourselves to dare to try and always dare to take risks whatever happens when setting up a business.

like a gambler who now owns his own gambling business when at first he was just a compulsive gambler thinking of finding other advantages from gambling. finally he thought about making his own gambling business after that he made it happen himself with big intentions and dared to take risks.

for me a businessman who is afraid to take risks, I think his business will not progress because he does not want to try something that makes his business bigger.

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March 20, 2023, 08:14:39 AM
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Many successful people have dark secrets behind them, but it doesn't mean that to be successful in life you need to have a dark secret yourself, this is not right.

It's not like all world successful people have dark secrets, some of them are blessed naturally, some came from rich families while some rise to stardom, without using any form of darkness.

If anyone believes that, to be successful they have to go dark, the blame is on them, they are too blind to see and they decide to go bad because they believe that's how world successful men are been made.

On the side of gambling life, there is always a secret, this is certain, I have heard some dark stories about Las Vega's big bosses, and come to think of it, gambling isn't always pure, most times it's cruel and stinky at the same time, not the online ones but the local dens.

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March 20, 2023, 09:11:56 AM
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We all know that some rich people had to deal in shady business dealings to come out at the top. I know of legit businesses that had to pay bribes to government officials to get large government tenders... but they have to do that, because that is the way that the world is changing.

You will also find that some online casinos are only a front for criminal cartels to launder money. They stay small and operate under the radar, but they are pushing a lot of dirty money through those casinos.  Roll Eyes

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March 20, 2023, 09:15:21 AM
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I think those secrets are not dark but mainly grey. I am sure that some gambling businesses seek exploits in law that would benefit them. But its not that something bad or something dark. Everyone would exploit a chance if given for no appearant reason other than his/her own benefits. If a gambling business make millions to billions of dollars through a method which gives them legal loophole I would not blame them. It would be a secret but yeah, not something illegal in theory.
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March 20, 2023, 09:18:19 AM
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If it was meant for the public to learn it won't have been called "secret" and if was genuine it won't have been prefixed with "dark".

Most of us only want to hear about the success of others but don't care to ask about what was done to achieve or get to that success. And yet we feel bothered when we finally learn that their way is not pure.

In my country, we have so many young ones that are being corrupted because of the desire to be like those in the society,  those that go around driving luxurious cars, and yet no one knows the source of their wealth. I think it's time we stick to this phrase "be contented with what you have".

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