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March 18, 2023, 06:41:46 PM
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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.

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March 18, 2023, 06:50:41 PM
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This is business and their intention of doing is to make money some people have their own ethics which may not harm others for their benefits while others don't have such and only concentrate on their profits, so this isn't limited to gambling every business sector has dark secrets too so as sn individual its important to understand every nook and corner before landing there as a business.

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March 18, 2023, 07:01:33 PM
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What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.

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March 18, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
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There are some businessmen who are straight up unethical on their business strategies. Some of them succeed with this and some of them don't. It will also depend on how lucky you actually are in the business. Those who use under the table techniques will always be haunted by bad luck and it will bite them right where it hurts, causing their businesses to crumble. Pretty sure not only successful business does this; also, small businesses trying to survive in a dog-eat-dog world. In gambling, well technically the roots of successful gambling houses even back in the day is tainted with blood, so it's no surprise if they are still doing the same things up until today.

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March 18, 2023, 08:06:15 PM
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I’m not sure if I would categorize gambling as having dark secrets. Most casinos are pretty open about the fact that they make lots of money, and some of them even clearly display odds so that players aren’t misled about the possibilities. I guess their secrets would be things like no clocks and exits that take you through a maze to get out of the casino, but even those are fairly well known.

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March 18, 2023, 08:10:53 PM
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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.

Well what we know is that there are successful business who just buy their competition or at least offer them money, and in business parlance this is acquisition or merger.

Not sure if this is a dark secret from successful business or entities.

I guess everyone who has ambitions might resort to some "dark secrets", but maybe it will remain secrets though, unless someone close to them reveal it to the public.

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March 18, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
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Well, every business do have a secret that make them really successful, but I don't the secret all have to be dark, there are still very legitimate businesses out there that have succeeded far above expectations, and their secret not dark at all, since i believe that by "Dark", you mean something evil like.

In gambling as well, you don't have to get into voodoo to become a successful gambler, we all have our different luck, and they come at different times, all that is required is patient and consistency in gambling, and one day, it might be your lucky day and you end up winning a life changing amount of money.
I know some people who made quite large sums of money without getting involved in any shady or dark stuff. 

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March 18, 2023, 08:38:24 PM
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I think we have heard this kind of story before, that for every success, there could be some kind of secret behind it.

But now sure how we can relate it to gambling, although in Hollywood, and if you have seen the Ocean's series, there is this part where Al Pacino character trying to double cross one of the members of Daniel Ocean's gang, Rueben to sign a document about his ownership stakes.

And who knows, this could life imitating art or the other way around.
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In my observation, I see all immense businesses are the only place where secrets are been inconspicuous, and why is it so? Because that's the only thing that makes their businesses explore more and since the business is owned by a successful man which has leverage even from the government authorities, the poor who do suffer from their conditions will be tight-lipped because no one to speak on their behalf.
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March 18, 2023, 08:59:55 PM
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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.

This is business as usual.If someone is smart enough to create a successful business then it is his right to enjoy the benefits.I am not understanding well your point but let me make you a point,Robert Kyosaki the author of "Rich dad,poor dad" book tells us a very great "secret" in his book,we should borrow money in time of crisis,buy real estate during such time and once the crisis has ended as it will not last forever,sell for a profit,I know it sounds easy like I put it down but it is much more difficult than that.Anyway there is a golden lesson here which is money is made from money you borrow and the best time to borrow is at a crisis.

In gambling though there are no dark secrets,the house always wins,you try to be a lucky person from the thousand persons that play in the casino and you hope that you hit a great win,that's it.

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March 18, 2023, 09:00:55 PM
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I don't know about casino businesses having or using dark secrets but I know that every business has trade secrets. These secrets are hidden from the populace and can only be unveiled to cartels or cult members. While some of these trade secrets are accessible by all and can be discovered in books, the internet, or through mentorship.

Currently, most business owners are ruthless and don't care about the impact of their unethical business conducts. They can bribe the government and other organizations to get what they want even to the detriment of the common man. Most businesses don't abide by the law of the land because no agency will sanction them because of their political connections.

But this doesn't mean that there is no good business owner that abides by the laws of the land. A well-managed business will always satisfy the needs of its customers and also maximize profit. So many gambling firms are doing well because they have good managers.

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What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.
For them to gain more wealth through owning hectares of land, it’s very possible that they will take advantage on the land properties of the poor people and eventually put them into a worst situation so they will be force to sell their lands. I’ve heard the same story here in my country wherein a powerful politician is owning forcefully the lands of the poor people here. That’s why I really believe that every successful business has its own dark secrets, though not all successful businessmen are responsible for this.

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March 18, 2023, 09:19:32 PM
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What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.
For them to gain more wealth through owning hectares of land, it’s very possible that they will take advantage on the land properties of the poor people and eventually put them into a worst situation so they will be force to sell their lands. I’ve heard the same story here in my country wherein a powerful politician is owning forcefully the lands of the poor people here. That’s why I really believe that every successful business has its own dark secrets, though not all successful businessmen are responsible for this.

i guess, you can hear that everywhere in the world. taking advantage of the poor people for the rich people to achieve what they want. that's no secret actually, people know such fact. however, they won't dare talk as it is their life at stake. for those who will go against influential and wealthy people, they will see the grave early.
i can agree that at some point these rich and successful people made a not-so-desirable decision. just to achieve what they want. some people will say they are heartless or to that effect, but most of them have their targets. so they won't care about the obstacles, as long as they can achieve their mission. they are dedicated to such mission, hence, chasing success for their respective companies.

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March 18, 2023, 10:00:23 PM
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in most cases, these very rich people managed to become very rich because they committed many crimes which they don't reveal to anyone, it doesn't matter if it's a small or big crime, it's still a crime, for example in my country most people rich, they only became rich because they stole money from the government and put it into some money laundering business, so they keep stealing money from the government and lie that it comes from the business, when in fact the business does not network anything

others get involved in drug trafficking, prostitution and continue to steal government money and lie that it is the business they are doing that gives them profit to have luxury homes and cars, many owners of physical casinos in the past did drug trafficking, prostitution and they put the money in the casino to say that it came from the casino's profit, it was all a lie. I believe this still happens today.

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March 18, 2023, 10:07:13 PM
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There could be the same stories everywhere but I don't think gambling should be considered a dark secret in the first place. There were successful businessmen who have tried their luck at gambling but later on saw the worth of doing hard work rather than relying on luck all their life. Of course, there were also stories of failure along the way but that should be a part of their success stories. Rich people don't have to hide their old habits or things that they have been through in the past.
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March 18, 2023, 10:34:32 PM
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Maybe the OP is referring to fraudulent business practices in the background, hence it's called dark secrets. This business owners deals with a lot of money, billions so most likely there could be some, like bribing and stuff like that. And by his example, it's the typical capitalist businessman, as he is prying and taking everything from the poor people.

This could be analogous though to casino operators as they have the house edge, so they are going to win at the end of night, by hook or by crook. But I don't think it's secret though, it's up in the open and we all know that casino is a booming business because of us gamblers. There could be secrets but it's all on the movies only I guess as there are no proof of casino owners going to the extremes.

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March 18, 2023, 10:48:00 PM
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Every successful business have got secrets behind it. Wr can understand whether the growth in the business have come through hard work or secrets that pave path for easy success. Not everyone is able to do it, because the risks were high. If caught with the act the business might end at the same day. Every business needs specific time for its establishment, but it is possible to see businesses that gets established within a short which itself enough to prove something illegal or against the law is taking place.

Caeino Operators can't be blamed, because when the technology isn't that effective people were easily fooled. Now this isn't possible anymore. Users check each and every bet. Nowadays dark secret based development is much seen around than the gradual growth. To the fast moving world people are in need of fast money and this serves as reason for such changes in different businesses.

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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.
I'm not sure about my example as Andrew Tate. It's a very similar case to the one you mentioned. This businessman and influencer made great money from being a scam in my opinion. He was able to fool many people by talking about nonsense things such as "the matrix" or some people controlling the world. People got obsessed and started doing the same as him and supporting him. He even created a course and started selling it for $49 with a monthly membership. The problem is that thousands of people bought the course, which didn't have any content or meaning. In the end of his story and just lately the police found out about his side hustle of human trafficking.
The whole point of this is that every business you start is a risk and a bet. You may win or lose. Some people work hard for success, while others do whatever it takes, even if it involves illegal activities. However, betting was never a way to get successful or rich.

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March 18, 2023, 11:58:06 PM
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Should we really go deep into learning and knowing these? For what?

Regardless if they have those so-called "dark secrets", they reached the stage of where they are today also because of their perseverance and hard work.

Let's not make this too technical and just mind our own business.

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March 18, 2023, 11:59:15 PM
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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.

That's why it is called a secret in the first place, therefore we won't know it even if we try our best to dig thru serious research. But my question to you is, what if those secrets are not really secret and those dark you are referring to are not really dark?

Can we just look at them as one of the best businessmen that anyone can follow? As long as they are keeping their feet below and not showing a bit of arrogance and being boastful in most cases, then nothing to worry about even they have secrets.

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