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March 20, 2023, 06:59:57 PM Last edit: March 21, 2023, 06:26:10 PM by cafter Merited by Casdinyard (2), Yogee (1) |
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here a small opinion by my thinking , it is obvious we will lose 90% of the time in gambling, so, think an influencer referred anyone, who is very new to gambling and deposited some money in greed of the welcome bonus provided by casino, then he knew, to claim this welcome bonus he need to wager the required amount to claim the bonus, while wagering he won in starting and he was feeling very happy first day of gambling, and now comes, second day he logged into the site to wager more to claim bonus and after playing some time he lost some money and he started doubling the bet amount to recover his losses, and by doubling bets many times he busted his whole account and made balance=0, and if he is smart enough(many of new are very smart they deposit second time to claim bonus and recover their losses but, not that much smart there eyes become blind by seeing quick profits and losses they do not able to revise that 90% of the time i will lose at this gambling game) and he is smart and deposited second time by deciding that, i will wager the left required amount and claim the bonus then never ever will gamble, but this time also he losed all, then he is depressed and thinking in different way (thinking that i will deposit one more time, when i first tried i doubled my account so this time i will deposit something big amount then previous amount) then this cycle repeats many times , and after all he fall into depression may sometimes many people sell their house and cars and live very bad life and their family also suffer for his/their mistake,
so why many people promote gambling sites by telling the new people that, you will get bonuses (without telling them the terms and conditions) and this is very easy to make money out of gambling, some youtuber tell that, see how i make 3x 4x you can also make profits like i did, just go down their is link in description from there you can get bonuses and you also able to 2x 3x 4x your money)
I am not telling every promoter do like this(some people are very good they tell their followers to not gamble ever, it is very risky for your life, just watch me gambling for entertainment purpose and if you also gamble already, then you can try this site, link in description, make an account) I am not telling the gambling website run evil business by 'not' telling terms and conditions (it's new people's mistake to not reading the T&C, he also need to think twice why would anyone will pay me my money doubling) it's their business. and, they clearly say many times that gambling is a 'branch' of entertainment named 'tree'.(means gambling comes in entertainment category)
i am telling about influencers, who are very blind for their referral commission that they influence new beginner people to gamble, and make money (which is not possible many times) even after knowing that, no one is going to never ever make money in gambling.
i don't know people think about this in that way or not, may i am a dumb, or not seen the world yet,
And also please give an opinion about "what type of many people are, like greedy, only thinking themselves and their family, egoistic, thinking in a bad way, just trying to keep everyone down, or people are good" because whenever i try to help people they think in opposite way, they tell me, why would you help, without thinking about yourself, i just try to share my little knowledge,
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Wiwo
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March 20, 2023, 07:17:29 PM |
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You must understand the fact that Gambling sites are people businesses, and building a Business the aims is to make profits, so casino operators just like every other business look for ways to generate income since there have a lot of expenses and operational costs to bear.
-So expecting gambling sites to keep losing is like chasing them out of the market because there will not have funds to run the business, so casino need to generate revenue so that the business can keep going.
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March 20, 2023, 08:11:50 PM |
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You can call that way of marketing and promotion by these so-called influencers an act of being greedy, deceiver, unethical, inappropriate, or any word you like but in reality, who are the ones to need to adjust? That kind of marketing strategy won't be stopped and the cycle will just continue over and over.
Not just for the purpose of referral commissions but these streamers are also being paid for the number of views on that said platform. Most of them are not even affiliated with those sites they streamed but since there's an opportunity to gather many viewers there, they will just consider streaming it.
We can't stop or even minimize that way of marketing as that has proven to be effective at some point. If in some cases, you see a bullsh*t streamer based on your view, you can report them or even spread awareness about that said streamer as long as your claims are true. You can also educate newbies to always read anything about Terms and Conditions. For sure in the long run, as long as these newbies continue to lurk in the gambling world, they will soon become better users that know how to choose and determined a good gambling site.
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March 20, 2023, 08:19:33 PM |
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Like any business, gambling industry too is nothing without marketing. They'll show you big wins about jackpots, and huge payouts to their customers shall be flaunted by them, but it's your own choice, your personal decision to go and gamble with your money. If we endorse these sites, does not mean that we are personally asking you or luring you to go and gamble, it's you who see and click the ad. We get paid because we are helping them market their product (here: gambling) and please limit us till that only.
If we talk about those doing this out of this forum, once again, they get paid to advertise these gambling sites in the end and have nothing to do with the sites but just to earn some money. They even add a disclaimer at the end of their content that they're not responsible for any losses that may occur due to your gambling. Gamble responsibly.
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March 20, 2023, 08:33:45 PM |
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I understand you can put into question the morals of a company in specific or the people around it, but you are being a bit unfair by specifically focusing in the gambling industry while many kind of businesses have practices to approach new markets and attract new people into their ecosystem.
I could tell you examples of exchanges, phone companies, hardware providers, online shops, credit providers, etc. Greed is not exclusive of casinos. It is not about the gambling industry as a whole, but some bad practices that widely adopted by a percentage of companies within it.
Of course this industry is not perfect and there is still a lot to be improved, but let us not mix bad people with the good ones, same with providers of entertainment.
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March 20, 2023, 08:35:20 PM |
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As long as gambling sites pay you commission or offer you some sort of bonus and benefits then people will keep promoting gambling sites.Imagine someone being super at affiliate marketing and that he manages to bring 1000 people under his name in a casino where this casino pays let's say 10 to 25% commission of every bet of each active referrals this guy has brought to the casino.It means a great passive income to him and what better than to bring people that love gambling anyway to a new platform,so for people who are business minded the affiliate marketing and promotion of gambling sites will continue as long as this venture brings them net substantial profit.
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Mate2237
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March 20, 2023, 08:39:41 PM |
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Op the bonus is always to attract people to the site and that is one their marketing strategy or system for gamblers, that is why many casinos will give you a lot of money in your first deposit but you can't withdraw that money because it is restricted until you wage on the stipulated amount or time and when you can able to win all through then you can withdraw them but it is not easy to win through.
If everyone wins through them the casino will run as lost, so to make the casino running, they have to make some games hard for the player to face difficulty so that you loss out and they will take your deposit as a profit and when more comes the management will use some pay other winners and staff, that is business strategy for you.
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uneng
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March 20, 2023, 08:51:03 PM |
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i am telling about influencers, who are very blind for their referral commission that they influence new beginner people to gamble and make money (which is not possible many times) even after knowing that one will make any money that this game. i don't know people think about this in that way or not, may i am a dumb or not seen the world yet,
Well, you already answered your own question. People promote gambling websites for referral comissions in most cases we see on social medias. It's their marketing job to promote those links for extra income. But you are right. They shouldn't promote gambling in a deceptive or misleading way. They should explain the risks involved on this activity and guide their public on how to gamble safely, only using money they can afford to lose. Here in my country a popular youtuber, idolized by the beautiful people, the media and the government, started promoting a local gambling platform recently. On his advertisement he said that by playing at this casino it was a good method for people looking for an extra income on the end of the month. Totally misleading propaganda, luring his blind followers to a big mistake. Unfortunatelly that is how things work...
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March 20, 2023, 09:01:08 PM |
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I am not telling the gambling website run evil business by 'not' telling terms and conditions (it's new people's mistake to not reading the T&C, he also need to think twice why would anyone will pay me my money doubling)
If you're a user even if you're a newbie it's your responsibility to read the TOS of casinos and its not only casinos it applies to all membership types of sites much more on sites where you are putting money, it's your fault if later you run into trouble on their rules, what you should questions are casinos that do not have a TOS or change their TOS without informing their members. it's their business. and they clearly say many times gambling is a branch of entertainment named tree. i am telling about influencers, who are very blind for their referral commission that they influence new beginner people to gamble and make money (which is not possible many times) even after knowing that one will make any money that this game. i don't know people think about this in that way or not, may i am a dumb or not seen the world yet, It's their business to promote casinos and part of promoting anything is to shill and hype it, they are promoting casinos which is a gambling site it's not a bank where you can make money it is an entertainment portal even if they tell you you can make money out of it, you should know the truth about gambling, you are not born yesterday to know that gambling is high risk and you can lose money, I guess you are dumb to think that these gambling sites are a source of easy money.
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KiaKia
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March 20, 2023, 09:03:37 PM |
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Maybe one day you will build your own online gambling casino where you will turn all gamblers into rich people, because you don't want them to keep losing, they deserve to win. Ain't it? The bitter truth about gambling platforms is they are here to make money just like their customers too, so it is wrong to believe that you should be winning every time you play a game online, the business will bankrupt very soon, its why I like flexing with online casinos just to emanate some fun from the website. You can get lucky any time but be smart when gambling, use money that you can easily take your eye off, the chances of losing the money is high anyway, so always use money that won't pain you if you lose.
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March 20, 2023, 09:26:19 PM |
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If what you meant is advert it depends on the agreement between the gambling company and the individual invlved in some cases where the betting site gives a promo code that comes with an incentive that's when you see individuals always mentioning the site so that people will use their own code for them to benefit.
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cabron
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March 20, 2023, 09:46:27 PM |
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Influencers are hired by the casinos. You can think of it as a celebrity hired by a skin product so they can sell the product well to celebrity followers. I'm sure this is obvious already but then celebrities or influencers also need money and so a contract is signed.
For someone who will be interested in gambling ads they see online, I think they have been gambling for a bit while probably just not too often or doing it on offline casinos.
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March 20, 2023, 09:47:30 PM |
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Wow, that was a lot of talking and thinking, but you misunderstood the whole point of this matter. Gambling has existed for a long time before casinos and sports betting. People used to bet on simple things and offer bigger rewards amongst themselves without involving a third party, which we now call a casino. Everyone knows that gambling involves taking risks to receive a reward but you always run the risk of losing your money or whatever you put on the table. The downside of gambling is when you become addicted and start betting and risking more than you can afford. It's meant to be a form of entertainment and spending time in a fun way ( personally i enjoy a session or two of BlackJack on online casinos after a long day at work) and once it becomes the opposite then you are doing it wrong IMO.
Every casino has warning signs and rules to advise and inform you about the risks of gambling. Therefore if you decide to gamble it's entirely your responsibility. There are no new or old useres since both are aware of what they are getting into.
Promoting casinos and gambling sites is just a way to make thos companies appear more legitimate and well known to attract more players. As the casino and gambling industry grows bigger every year, there is huge competition between casinos especially in recent years. Therefore, both parties benefit from promoting their services, just like we do here in Bitcointalk.
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Your question have to go back to you if I don't mean you are a gambler I would like to ask you why do you play Gamble, people promote gambling website Lagos sometimes it is the place they find their daily bread or it is a personal Vision why they are promoting gambling website so for my understanding everybody have the right to do whatever to you he or she want to do
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iv4n
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March 20, 2023, 10:05:22 PM |
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here a small opinion by my thinking , ...
People like certain things and that's it... Whatever we like to do will cost us some money and time, and if we can afford it we will do it! It's cause we like it for some reason and we don't regret the money spent on that. We can go into philosophy about what we "really" need and I understand you, but the world works in a different way. There are so many "interesting" things around, and we (people) like to try them and fight for the "spot under the sun". I guess there's no other way to explain it.... if you like it you will do it, if you don't like it just go and mind your own business!
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March 20, 2023, 10:12:10 PM |
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Omoh!!!
Long and yet difficult to understand statements though I got the message you're trying to send across, see, I believe we've heard that believing everything we hear and see on the social media is at our own risk, that's not a lie.
Anyone and everyone tend to invest or do anything for the funds that comes thereafter so if you see me saying this is the best platform, it's best you run your own personal analysis to be sure it favours you too.
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March 20, 2023, 10:17:01 PM |
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You can call that way of marketing and promotion by these so-called influencers an act of being greedy, deceiver, unethical, inappropriate, or any word you like but in reality, who are the ones to need to adjust? That kind of marketing strategy won't be stopped and the cycle will just continue over and over.
Not just for the purpose of referral commissions but these streamers are also being paid for the number of views on that said platform. Most of them are not even affiliated with those sites they streamed but since there's an opportunity to gather many viewers there, they will just consider streaming it.
We can't stop or even minimize that way of marketing as that has proven to be effective at some point. If in some cases, you see a bullsh*t streamer based on your view, you can report them or even spread awareness about that said streamer as long as your claims are true. You can also educate newbies to always read anything about Terms and Conditions. For sure in the long run, as long as these newbies continue to lurk in the gambling world, they will soon become better users that know how to choose and determined a good gambling site.
it's a way of catering for themselves, the sole aim is to be able to provide for your loved ones and meet your personal needs, in as much as you're doing a legit job. The problem is with us though, we adore, worship and celebrate influencers alot such that whatever the do and own, we too want to. So whilst they're paid to deceive us is because the trust we'll want to do what they're doing to make money.
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March 20, 2023, 10:18:20 PM |
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It's always our due diligence to understand everything before entering a new world, especially being newbies in gambling.
Can't believe with just an impressive win or showing big money while watching streamer's content, we will easily take the bait. I also came from being a newbie but not to the point that I will be just easily carried away by these big wins or what.
What you are pointing out isn't really a big concern if only people know how to be vigilant about what they watched on the internet these days especially watching famous streamers and influencers. Besides, how the hell we are not thinking deeply when it comes to risking our money on something and just following these popular guys that easily without any caution?
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March 20, 2023, 10:22:19 PM |
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You can call that way of marketing and promotion by these so-called influencers an act of being greedy, deceiver, unethical, inappropriate, or any word you like but in reality, who are the ones to need to adjust? That kind of marketing strategy won't be stopped and the cycle will just continue over and over.
Not just for the purpose of referral commissions but these streamers are also being paid for the number of views on that said platform. Most of them are not even affiliated with those sites they streamed but since there's an opportunity to gather many viewers there, they will just consider streaming it.
We can't stop or even minimize that way of marketing as that has proven to be effective at some point. If in some cases, you see a bullsh*t streamer based on your view, you can report them or even spread awareness about that said streamer as long as your claims are true. You can also educate newbies to always read anything about Terms and Conditions. For sure in the long run, as long as these newbies continue to lurk in the gambling world, they will soon become better users that know how to choose and determined a good gambling site.
it's a way of catering for themselves, the sole aim is to be able to provide for your loved ones and meet your personal needs, in as much as you're doing a legit job. The problem is with us though, we adore, worship and celebrate influencers alot such that whatever the do and own, we too want to. So whilst they're paid to deceive us is because the trust we'll want to do what they're doing to make money. the plan of so many of them please the benefit of their lovely one not for what is really as in focusing for so I believe that is why many people like care for their own personal profit alone not for individual or magically
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March 20, 2023, 10:26:44 PM |
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Why not promote a business if it's not scamming anyone? I'm not saying this because I'm promoting a gambling site on my signature, but because gambling platforms create job opportunities and contribute to a country's tax revenue. The only exception I see is in countries that strongly oppose gambling based on religious grounds. If that isn't the case, then I don't think promoting them is wrong, especially if players already understand the risks and consequences of addiction. It all boils down to the player eventually, as it's always a matter of choice to screw up or to not fall prey to gambling addiction.
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