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March 21, 2023, 02:07:22 PM |
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I understand you can put into question the morals of a company in specific or the people around it, but you are being a bit unfair by specifically focusing in the gambling industry while many kind of businesses have practices to approach new markets and attract new people into their ecosystem.
I could tell you examples of exchanges, phone companies, hardware providers, online shops, credit providers, etc. Greed is not exclusive of casinos. It is not about the gambling industry as a whole, but some bad practices that widely adopted by a percentage of companies within it.
Of course this industry is not perfect and there is still a lot to be improved, but let us not mix bad people with the good ones, same with providers of entertainment.
This is what I was thinking while reading the OP. I don't know all the laws or rules when it comes to advertising but it appears the Government is pretty lenient when it comes to this. It's been widely accepted that advertisers only show the good side of their products. The food and beverage industry for example would promote how delicious their new menu or new drinks but they never tell that the ingredients used could cause health problems. It's up to the buyer to read the product labels or ingredients. It's almost the same case with casinos and their hired promoters or their affiliate marketers. It reminds me those infomercials I used to see in the morning when I was younger, it could be hours and hours of the same people talking about how wonderful their product is and they would never say anything negative about it. Sometimes, it would be just matter of some small letters appearing at the and of the advertisement, which scrolled too fast and were too small for anyone to actually pay attention to. Because of memories like that, I believe it is unfair to accuse casinos and exchanges of advertise mostly positively, using space which obviously costs much money to them. We are talking about practices which are older than Bitcoin itself, after all.
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Solosanz
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March 21, 2023, 02:11:10 PM |
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Have you used a site or tool where it's really help you or solve your problem? when someone else have similar problem like you was, obviously you will give a solution and recommend the site or tool you've used, isn't?
Have you get bribed by someone to choose what he choose? or someone pay you and ask you to post something? similar like someone get paid by the casino for doing what the casino ask to you.
So there are 2 options why people promoting casino, just pick what you think it's more make sense.
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len01
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March 21, 2023, 03:04:46 PM Last edit: March 21, 2023, 03:18:15 PM by len01 |
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Promoting a casino or gambling site is left to us to consider if we are interested to use the site or not. Sometimes after hearing about a gambling site and the bonus that are attached, I always do my own research so that I will be sure of where I am putting my money so that I will not be a victim of ignorance. Checking the terms and conditions of a betting site is very important but sometimes we over look it because we are in haste to get the bonuses that attract us to the betting site and to start gambling. Making persons have lost there funds because of this mistake.
a promoter is paid to promote one of the casino sites that pays for it and we as people who see the promotion must respond casually and carefully when we want to register at the casino. made a mistake at the casino without knowing beforehand. and a promoter is not to blame because they too get paid to promote a business and we as customers have to do our own research. so that when we enter gambling or casinos that offer promotions on their advertising banners, we shouldn't be too hasty to get these bonuses. because if we are greedy, of course we immediately register and bet without knowing the rules that we can break when betting.
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aioc
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March 21, 2023, 03:14:05 PM |
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...so why many people promote gambling sites by telling the new people that you will get bonuses (without telling them the terms and conditions) and this is very easy to make money out of gambling some youtuber tell that see how i make 3x 4x you can also make profits like i did just go down their is link in description from there you can get bonuses and you also able to 2x 3x 4x you money) You should know better these are promoters they will use the best word and shill to the highest just for you to sign up deposit and play, it's your fault if you put your 100% trust in these influencers you should do your own research its your money so you decide what's best for you. Influencers will always be influencers they will live up to their name because this is what they do best influence people I am not telling every promoter do like this(some people are very good they tell their followers to not gamble ever it is very risky for your life, just watch me gambling for entertainment purpose and if you also gamble already then you can try this site, link in description, make an account) Even if influencers are telling you to gamble with money that you can afford they will still influence you to still play because they know that when you sign up and play if you do not have control of your gambling you will eventually lose more money, money that you cant afford to lose.
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kryptqnick
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March 21, 2023, 03:21:34 PM |
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Unfair advertising practices and financial advice aren't good things to employ, I agree with that. However, I don't think it makes promotion of gambling bad per se, and Hispo has a fair point that similar unethical practices exist outside the gambling industry. IMO, gambling is a form of entertainment. People easily pay for other forms of entertainment, such as going bowling, buying a computer game, going to the cinema etc. In those other cases you 'lose' every time, you don't expect to get your money back. In gambling, there is a chance you'll actually win, but that chance is not a promise and not a guarantee because what you're paying for is the process and the emotions you're getting out of it.
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virasisog
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March 21, 2023, 03:23:49 PM |
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...so why many people promote gambling sites by telling the new people that you will get bonuses (without telling them the terms and conditions) and this is very easy to make money out of gambling some youtuber tell that see how i make 3x 4x you can also make profits like i did just go down their is link in description from there you can get bonuses and you also able to 2x 3x 4x you money) You should know better these are promoters they will use the best word and shill to the highest just for you to sign up deposit and play, it's your fault if you put your 100% trust in these influencers you should do your own research it's your money so you decide what's best for you. Influencers will always be influencers they will live up to their name because this is what they do best influence people I am not telling every promoter to do like this(some people are very good they tell their followers to not gamble ever it is very risky for your life, just watch me gambling for entertainment purposes and if you also gamble already then you can try this site, link in the description, make an account) Even if influencers are telling you to gamble with money that you can afford they will still influence you to still play because they know that when you sign up and play if you do not have control of your gambling you will eventually lose more money, money that you can't afford to lose. Promoters' main goal is to make money by advertising casino sites. They can get paid by promoting the casino by showing proof that they're winning regardless if it's real or fake. They are also earning from sign-up bonuses and referral programs so they are benefiting from it so of course, they will do everything to attract players. They might warn their subscribers and viewers about the risk of gambling but they will still use flowery words to convince people to gamble that's why we should also be skeptical because not all advertisements are real and some of them are just paid and scripted. They won't say anything bad about the casino because their goal is to earn from it.
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maydna
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March 21, 2023, 03:46:01 PM |
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If those people only think about the money that can be made from gambling, they will never be successful even though perhaps, to start with, they can get new people to join them. But once new people find out what those influencers have been up to, they will stop playing for a while and look for other influencers who can provide the information they need.
But if an influencer can tell all about gambling in detail and also tell them that gambling has risks, some people will join that influencer. They understand the risks of gambling and are willing to take that risk. These influencers might be successful in getting lots of people to join them.
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Cling18
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March 21, 2023, 03:57:41 PM |
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Gambling promotions are everywhere on the internet nowadays. Even small influencers are already advertising casinos. No wonder because it's the most effective marketing strategy that casinos do nowadays. Influencers, vloggers, and famous personalities are sometimes creating random raffles for those who will register on their referral links where they can generate more money. They are promoting regardless of the risks of gambling because it's their way of earning money easier than their profession. Business is business and they are also taking advantage of the opportunities being offered to them.
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qwertyup23
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March 21, 2023, 04:00:40 PM |
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You must understand the fact that Gambling sites are people businesses, and building a Business the aims is to make profits, so casino operators just like every other business look for ways to generate income since there have a lot of expenses and operational costs to bear.
-So expecting gambling sites to keep losing is like chasing them out of the market because there will not have funds to run the business, so casino need to generate revenue so that the business can keep going.
I do agree with you. Again, an online gambling must advertise their website in order to compete with the thousands of online gambling casinos that are being created daily. They have to create their own identity in a way that will standout among its competitors. One way in order for that message to spread is by hiring people or content creators to promote a specific gambling website to their advantage because at the end of the day, it is still a business. In conclusion, I see nothing wrong with people promoting a specific gambling website. The only wrong comes out when they tend to misrepresent and spread false information about it especially if the games that are being advertised are "fixed" by the advertisers and the gambling company itself.
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Yaunfitda
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March 21, 2023, 04:05:44 PM Merited by Casdinyard (1) |
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It's pretty obvious, it's business from this guys. So if there will be one way to promote their business, then it's should be in way they will advertisement it in whichever they can, like in social medias. And then it's up to us whether we are going to be sway and test it and gamble our money, or don't gamble and not be influence by the ads even if someone famous is promoting it. And again, gambling is like part of human history, it's in our culture way back and just very difficult to remove, in my opinion. There are governments though that is anti-gambling, but still though, their efforts is not enough as again, gambling is innate to all of us.
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alastantiger
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March 21, 2023, 04:43:10 PM |
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Promotion of gambling site, I think is done by gambling lovers or gamblers. Different people promote gambling sites for their different reasons. It could either be for the love of gambling or for their personal interest. Myself for instance, I promote gambling site because of the love I have for gambling and the pleasure I derive from it too. I introduce my friends who are into gambling to some gambling site. I use to tell them to always read the T&C's of any gambling site they want to access. Sometimes if there is any bonus allocation to any referrer I will try and tell my friends about it too so they can also invite someone else. So, that's how and why I promote gambling site. Though some are self centered that they will introduce you to gambling site without much explanation on the rules of the gambling just because they want to win bonuses.
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Casdinyard
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March 21, 2023, 06:14:14 PM |
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You have to understand that gambling sites and casinos are businesses first, and whatever they wanna be second. So profit and garnering the most users/customers will always be their primary want. THus the reason why these companies resort to hiring influencers for sponsorships in exchange for advertising their sites in their platforms. Of course it is pesky, it's scummy, and all in all a little manipulative, but they gotta make money somewhere and found that as the streaming era becomes more and more apparent, so do the opportunity for advertisement that it could offer. It's pretty obvious, it's business from this guys. So if there will be one way to promote their business, then it's should be in way they will advertisement it in whichever they can, like in social medias. And then it's up to us whether we are going to be sway and test it and gamble our money, or don't gamble and not be influence by the ads even if someone famous is promoting it. And again, gambling is like part of human history, it's in our culture way back and just very difficult to remove, in my opinion. There are governments though that is anti-gambling, but still though, their efforts is not enough as again, gambling is innate to all of us.
Exactly. "No hard feelings" as they say. The casino's gotta run the business somehow, and this is one of if not the most effective ways to make sure they have people that are manning the slots and filling the poker table.
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March 21, 2023, 06:45:37 PM |
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Personally, I believe that most of the influential people who promote gambling participate in these kinds of advertising campaigns for a living.
It seems to me that a powerful person who respects his audience will always try to make a disclaimer stating that his actions are not advice for action and that anything he does is best not repeated.
On the other hand, each of us should do our own good research on any issue involving money.
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March 21, 2023, 06:50:36 PM |
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, -cut- so why many people promote gambling sites by telling the new people that, you will get bonuses (without telling them the terms and conditions) and this is very easy to make money out of gambling, some youtuber tell that, see how i make 3x 4x you can also make profits like i did, just go down their is link in description from there you can get bonuses and you also able to 2x 3x 4x your money)
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When someone trusts the site, uses the site and benefits from referrals, why in the earth shouldn't they promote it? I recon people are better off using reliable casinos and i see nothing wrong with promoting one. And why would it be promoter's job to list the terms and conditions? It's usually long list and you can read it on the website. Just saying it out loud takes ton of time in the video or ton of room at the forum. It's literally a requirement that you read and accept Terms of Service before using the site so why are we assuming the user won't be reading it?
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March 21, 2023, 06:56:35 PM |
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, -cut- so why many people promote gambling sites by telling the new people that, you will get bonuses (without telling them the terms and conditions) and this is very easy to make money out of gambling, some youtuber tell that, see how i make 3x 4x you can also make profits like i did, just go down their is link in description from there you can get bonuses and you also able to 2x 3x 4x your money)
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When someone trusts the site, uses the site and benefits from referrals, why in the earth shouldn't they promote it? I recon people are better off using reliable casinos and i see nothing wrong with promoting one. And why would it be promoter's job to list the terms and conditions? It's usually long list and you can read it on the website. Just saying it out loud takes ton of time in the video or ton of room at the forum. It's literally a requirement that you read and accept Terms of Service before using the site so why are we assuming the user won't be reading it? my speaking is that some influencer tell the beginners that you can earn from gambling like i earn, they don't clearly tell you can also lose lot of money here, and just they tell that you can get doubled your money in bonus with my link(they doesn't tell them that you need to wager 20x 40x of the deposited amount) and i am not telling that the influencer needs to list all terms and conditions, he can just tell to people like this: no one can beat the casino, there are T&C to claim bonus, just play for entertainment or never gamble, i know the influencer also wants to make money but some of them are so blind for commission they directly tell you can make money out of it.
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cabron
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March 21, 2023, 06:59:00 PM |
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Personally, I believe that most of the influential people who promote gambling participate in these kinds of advertising campaigns for a living.
It seems to me that a powerful person who respects his audience will always try to make a disclaimer stating that his actions are not advice for action and that anything he does is best not repeated.
On the other hand, each of us should do our own good research on any issue involving money.
Some of them are not even influential but are just doing pranks on thier youtube video. They, however, gained a lot of views, and the casinos are interested in thier market. They were pranking kids and it is funny at some point but not really related to betting. It's quite an interesting promotion becuase they are using local wallets meant for local currency. It's just a matter of casinos wanting to make money by trying to attract users even the ones who are not part of thier demographics. Newbies will really be losing money.
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March 21, 2023, 07:00:12 PM Last edit: March 22, 2023, 09:43:06 AM by Westinhome |
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Almost all the people who promote the gambling site will be the gambler.Some people promote the gambling by their love towards the gambling and some will do to share the trusted gambling site to the all gamblers.Even I had an habit of promoting the gambling site which I had like the most with my lovable friends.It’s leads to my name,So I will only promote the website which I feel comfortable to have fun and no withdrawal issues at the end of profits.
Because we are very happy to promote which we love then the promotion should made on payments.By promoting such things we will be happy person then we get enjoyment by the money we get from the money as payments.The promotion of loved things will gives us internal happiness as compared to the money made happiness.
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Lanatsa
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March 21, 2023, 08:50:20 PM |
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Almost all the people who promote the gambling site will be the gambler.Some people promote the gambling by their love towards the gambling and some will do to share the trusted gambling site to the all gamblers.Even I had an habit of promoting the gambling site which I had like the most with my lovable friends.It’s leads to my name,So I will only promote the website which I feel comfortable to have fun and no withdrawal issues at the end of profits.
Not all but for sure there are people who do really love on sharing up about gambling but if we do speak solely about those people who do wear up some signature on this forum then pretty sure that not all would really be that a gambler and im pretty sure of that if you do really make up some review of their responses on gambling threads and boards which you can see that most of them do tell and say about basic common sense stuffs and not actually that contributes about legit discussions specially on particular games or even on sports. This is why it do really varies but speaking about marketing then dont get surprised as these things turns out to be standard.
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March 21, 2023, 09:56:05 PM |
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here a small opinion by my thinking , it is obvious we will lose 90% of the time in gambling, so, think an influencer referred anyone, who is very new to gambling and deposited some money in greed of the welcome bonus provided by casino, then he knew, to claim this welcome bonus he need to wager the required amount to claim the bonus, while wagering he won in starting and he was feeling very happy first day of gambling, and now comes, second day he logged into the site to wager more to claim bonus and after playing some time he lost some money and he started doubling the bet amount to recover his losses, and by doubling bets many times he busted his whole account and made balance=0, and if he is smart enough(many of new are very smart they deposit second time to claim bonus and recover their losses but, not that much smart there eyes become blind by seeing quick profits and losses they do not able to revise that 90% of the time i will lose at this gambling game) and he is smart and deposited second time by deciding that, i will wager the left required amount and claim the bonus then never ever will gamble, but this time also he losed all, then he is depressed and thinking in different way (thinking that i will deposit one more time, when i first tried i doubled my account so this time i will deposit something big amount then previous amount) then this cycle repeats many times , and after all he fall into depression may sometimes many people sell their house and cars and live very bad life and their family also suffer for his/their mistake,
You make a lot of bad points quite frankly. You talk about promoters not telling you the terms and conditions, yet they are plainly found on every single gambling span and can cover many pages of content. It is the responsibility of anyone who is spending money to read them and understand what they're doing, they often agree to this right there on the registration page but only complain when they don't beat the house. You also ignore the fact that everyone who takes part in casinos or gambling in general, thinks they are more clever than these huge companies and that they will somehow get a magical shortcut to massive wealth, that too is the definition of greedy.
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Zilon
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March 21, 2023, 10:12:58 PM |
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The best way to sell a product to people is to show them the best part of the product and hide the hidden part until they get in. For gambling if the companies and their affiliates goes about telling new and intending gamblers that the house always wins they might never want to gamble their entire life. The easiest way to lure one is to make them feel at advantage through outrageous welcome bonuses and referral bonus. As long has the don't force anyone into gambling they only provide tempting offers then it is up to the gambler to decide for themselves what they want.
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