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March 20, 2023, 07:51:32 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

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March 20, 2023, 08:31:15 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you?
Just retest it every time you think that something is changing. We can go back on it every time we replace it with a new one.

Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Yes, very possible. They may seem to look old but strategies are just there and they'll never be obsolete unless the market entirely changes but it seems not. That's why these old strategies if ever you've got one might still work and thus, you can't just forget about it when it has come to the point of time that it has helped you a lot from your trades.

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March 20, 2023, 09:12:14 PM
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!

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March 20, 2023, 09:25:04 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market is a cycle, so your old strategy might still work but you have to analyze it and adjust accordingly.
You must be more flexible when it comes to using your strategy, what works before might not be ok today or even in the future because the trend in this market changes over time. If you are talking about trading, then I believe strategies in trading can always be the same since indicators are not changing as well, all you have to look for is for the perfect timing and perfect combination of indicators.
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March 20, 2023, 09:26:14 PM
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If you really understand trading then you should know that investors behave the same in similar circumstances and they approach to repeat the patterns. Trading strategies never change in any kind of trading whether it's Crypto or stocks, Market behaves according to the demand and supplies a common mechanism. So it's not wrong to say that Tadring's strategies never get old but they modify themselves with the progression. Some of the approaches never even change after many many years such as Hold, All In, and All Out on different instances. Trading is all about the uncertainty of the market price if you know when and where to enter and exit you can be a successful trader and these skills develop after good experience you cant learn it but you can experience it.

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March 20, 2023, 09:50:40 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.

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March 20, 2023, 09:59:31 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
On general sense then for sure you should really be remembering those old strategies that you do have on a particular condition or situation in the market rather than on testing out strats every now and then and trying to find on which one does work and if its none then you would jump to another one. Yes,we do know that this market is really that hard to handle it out due to unpredictability and this is why as a trader who do deal off with moving prices on active manner then it isnt something that simple to deal with.You would really be needing for yourself to be that versatile so that you could really make out adjustments
basing up on the market condition which it would really be that typical.

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March 20, 2023, 11:15:36 PM
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The main issue is that trading strategies, in my opinion, can not become obsolete in principle. Because most trading strategies were invented a long time ago, and over time, these strategies only become more refined. There are very few new trading strategies.
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March 20, 2023, 11:27:21 PM
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The main issue is that trading strategies, in my opinion, can not become obsolete in principle. Because most trading strategies were invented a long time ago, and over time, these strategies only become more refined. There are very few new trading strategies.
That’s good about trading, it never gets old and if there’s a new one you can easily adjust since you already know fundamentals of trading. You can have the old one, and it can still work to other cryptos just try to set-up a new approach and you can be good. Trading strategies should adopt the current trend, its ok to have the old one as long as it works for you, analyze is your best preparation trading in the market.

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March 21, 2023, 02:54:50 AM
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has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market does not exist by itself and it needs market participants as well as their cash/ capital flow to exist.

In all markets, the psychology of market cycles is not changed so strategies will work. The game just repeats itself over time because market participants don't change their psychology over time. Generally things don't change but applying strategies successfully depends on each person.


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March 21, 2023, 03:30:53 AM
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There is no reason to simply forget about the old strategy that was used because maybe it can be used again at other times, because sometimes market conditions require us to change strategy but not to forget the old one instead it can be used as material for evaluating what the old strategy lacks and if possible in combination with a new one and it can provide benefits then why not.

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March 21, 2023, 06:32:05 AM
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what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future.
This is why having a trading journal is important. If you've the strategy written down, as (is) advisable, then there won't be any point in throwing it away or completely forget it. It's there on paper, you only need to revisit it to remember what it's like. You can retest it even years later when you think the one you replaced it with had become faulty.

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If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Yes, highly possible. In the past I used Breakout technique but left it because it was time consuming as it were. I would've wait patiently for it to catch a few movements. I revisited it years later and discovered my trading was better with it.

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has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Believe or not, I am following the same set of strategies for more than 6 years for crypto trading and fortunately I am into profit side till date. Probably the traders who are making use of only one strategy might keep changing their strategy more frequently but I am doing technical analysis with 4+ strategies and I take positions only when at least 3 of my strategies say same thing. This helps me to filter out short term trends. I always prefer riding on trends which might be the another reason why the same set of strategies are always working for me for longer duration.

In my opinion, a strategy may turn inefficient when market gets more volatility. To handle this, we might either need to stay away from trading or need to fine-tune the strategy by adjusting the parameters. I mean switching over to new strategy does not sound good or as a working approach (in long term perspective) to me.

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March 21, 2023, 09:45:10 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future.
Most old strategies are not what I can forget, I believed in screen trading and took much energy from me. I use high leverage which I thought was good but landed me in liquidations. Newbie traders will learn and they will move on. It is like promoting from a lower class to an upper class in school, you move up and you move on.

If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The strategies you apply can be as old as time and old for you because you have known about it many years ago, but the strategy is never old for you because you still use it. I see old strategies in this context as the strategies that you have abandoned before. I can not use the strategies I have abandoned before, I abandoned the strategies because they were faling me.

There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
Are you talking about trend trading? If a trader is patient, using very low leverage or using just 1x leverage, adapting to market condition for trading is very profitable.

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March 21, 2023, 10:10:44 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

I don't think you have to throw them away, they migybe useless now but in the future the currently new strategy that you are now using might become absolute and you would need something to fall back on. The old trading strategies can fill the void while you search for something permanent that you'll be using for your trading sessions.

Some new trading strategies only works for a certain amount of time like in bull market, during this time everything seems to pump so the strategies you can use for that period mightn't be the same that you'll use when the market aren't in a pumping stage. All strategy can be reused since the market is in a circle.

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I believe if the strategy is tested and trustted before, it would work almost everytime depending on the market connditions, people need to understand that that when looking at technical side of trading, fundamental side should also be consider, some people focus solely on the technical side but what works in the bull market will stop working in a bear market, so to me we need to tune our sttrategy to every market conditions for it to remain profitable


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I think the old strategy will work in the future if the moment is right.
it's like selling all assets after a bull run because the market will go down to the bottom, I guess it's a repeatable strategy because these phases will come and go.

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March 21, 2023, 05:05:13 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

My calculations are way simpler. I am going with the flow and if it is working for me then I am not changing it sooner. If the market situation starts changing dramatically then yes I adapt accordingly. In many instances, I do stop trading as well. The later stage comes in my life if I am losing too much money on trading and I am not getting hold of the market by doing any sort of changes. For example, changing the trade timing, portfolio upgrade, TA at different chart points, and much more.

However, I am mostly trying to be the long-term holder and it makes me realize that it is what keeps me risk-free. I have read on the forum itself somewhere, unless and until you are not selling your portfolio you are not going into the losses. So any of the methodologies is not working as mentioned above then I am simply not selling and holding until dust settles.
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March 21, 2023, 05:32:29 PM
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do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you?

This is like the saying that new things will become old. If a strategy has been changed to a particular type that is working so why remembering it? Trading is about profiting and if you have a strategy that you are comfortable with because it is giving you profit, then you let go the one not working and move with that working. There is no hard rule about this because we all desire to make profit in trading. I can only remember an old strategy when it is not a complete departure of new one but if the strategies are far apart then it may not come my mind if I'm making the profit.  Success has good stories but failure don't have and a strategy that is not working is a failure.
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
You are definitely wrong about this, a good strategy will always work as the nature of the markets will never change, so if you had a strategy that no longer works there are a few reasons for this, the first one that comes to my mind is that the strategy was never good to begin with and you never had a winning strategy at all, the second reason is that you may have used curve fitting and your strategy matches too closely with what happened with the market on the past and as such it has no predicting ability at all.
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I don't remember the old strategy, but I remember very well how many old mistakes I made on trading. Trading strategies tend to be the same over time, but due to developments in technology you can expect trading bots to help you.

A simple but profitable strategy is to buy the asset on a correction, or buy on dip. I think it is the best strategy to hope for short term gains while waiting for the market to recover after the correction. The essence of trading is to buy low and sell high, so regardless of your strategy profit is the main target.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Old or new it doesnt matter because strategies could really vary on certain conditions and as a trader and investor then you should really be that versatile on whatever ways you would be doing or making out

adjustments for certain market conditions.Therefore, if you would really be making use of those old strategies, doesnt matter if its old as long it does fit out on a certain market condition.

Also if it does give out profits then why not? There's no such thing about being new or old because what matter most is that it do makes out that results
which we do all hoping for.

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It is called adapting the situation so old strategy probably gonna work depending on the situation. Don't just focus on a single strategy if it isn't giving you anymore profit but instead try the other method you will somehow gonna use every strategy you have been mastered before. The market is obviously unpredictable so you have to adapt to the high volatility of this market. Just don't try or practice a new strategy while trading and I think you obviously know this that you need experience and knowledge on that new strategy for it to work for you.

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Most of the old trading strategies are still effective if use properly.Basic support and resistance is still profitable in any kind of market weather fx, Crypto or stocks.Patterns like double tops,double bottoms still work sometime it is better to use the olden days trading strategies cause there are very profitable than many modern ones.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Some trading strategies that need to be updated over time, you can approach the management of any old strategies in different ways. One option is to completely forget about the old strategy and focus entirely on the new one that is currently working. This approach can be effective, particularly if the old strategy has proven to be consistently unprofitable or irrelevant. But if the old strategy is still generating profits i prefer to keep using it beside the new one separately in two different trading accounts and maximize my profits if one of them didn’t do good some day.
As for the effectiveness of the old strategies it's so possible for an old strategy to work again in the future. The markket is dynamic and can change quick, which can make previously ineffective strategies profitableonce again.

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There are not different about old or new trading strategies because the achievement is how much to earn profit and effective without need to hold for long term due price drop. I don't know what you mean about old strategies because in trading investor or trader have the same strategies and their goal for earning profit as much possible.

I don't have complicated strategies in trading but still the same with first time I know bitcoin since last several years, don't be hurry up when entering with new coins investing and waiting one or several days later with great time for buying coins.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you?
Just retest it every time you think that something is changing. We can go back on it every time we replace it with a new one.

Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Yes, very possible. They may seem to look old but strategies are just there and they'll never be obsolete unless the market entirely changes but it seems not. That's why these old strategies if ever you've got one might still work and thus, you can't just forget about it when it has come to the point of time that it has helped you a lot from your trades.
Old strategies can still be at its use depending on the market condition. But if you see that it’s no longer working anymore and all you experience are just consistent losses, then develop new strategies that you think will work and fit to the market condition. However, when the market condition changes, you can retest your old strategies and check if they can still be working and profitable in the market.

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Trading should be viewed from a business perspective.  Just as a business has income and expenses, you must learn to see trading income as profit and expenses as loss.

 So, it goes without saying that we must maximize our gains and minimize our losses.  If you find that this is not happening for some long time, then you need to analyze / change the way you are trading.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

To be candid, i think old trading strategies are always working, infact they always work. With my understanding of crypto currency trading as a trader, what i do is improve on old strategies by making tweaks and improvements to existing strategies.

So my advise would be that as a trader, every experience is valuable and will come in handy with respect to different circumstances; so do not dismiss old strategies; instead improve on it and apply your knowledge and experience at every stage
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Using old strategies can be useful but also depends on market conditions and situations. If market conditions and situations are similar to previous market conditions, maybe we can immediately use the same strategy without modifying it. But if the situation changes, we must modify the strategy to work in the current market conditions. Instead, I often use a new strategy every time I trade because I find that the market movements I encounter are always changing and it forces me to keep making strategies. Even in one trade, I can prepare two or more strategies to anticipate market movements changing direction.
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
the old strategy and the new one for me can be used as long as we know the weaknesses and strengths of the strategy, because there is no one trading strategy that is 100% accurate, of course there are times when under certain conditions the strategy cannot work properly. on the other hand if the strategy is going well, then we don't get greedy, because anytime the market can change direction suddenly, especially for short-term trading

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

I have rule book on every strategy that I make and I always save what I’m using as reference for my future trade. Strategy works in different scenario and there’s no strategy that is applicable for all type of market condition. It’s important to save your trading strategy and put a note on what’s the condition that you will use it so that you can easily decide what strategy to use if you are confused on the market behavior.

Experience is the best teacher and same with trading. Those previous data of your trading will help you to choose on the perfect strategy setup to use on current condition since trading is just a repetition on what happened in the past. Trading is just buying and selling so there’s always a chance that an outcome that happened today is already happened in the past.

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March 22, 2023, 03:24:48 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

There is no expired strategy because it all depends on how we are able to adjust the movement and put in the right strategy. You are right that trading strategies need to be changed but again that doesn't mean the old methods are no longer valid. If you are based on market behavior, of course there will be very various types so many traders make so many strategies to adjust pattern after pattern.

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March 22, 2023, 03:29:42 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
A trading strategy always needed occasional minor adjustment or tweaking to met up with present market structure else a once profitable trading strategy wouldn't be working perfectly that is why it's always advisable to review the strategy if streaks of losses is the incurred instead of completely dumping the trading strategy for a new one, my own personal trading strategy is based on Price Action around the Pivot points and this has never change over the years but needed some minor adjustment with new indicators to aid and help in making a trading decision.

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I think the old strategy will work in the future if the moment is right.
it's like selling all assets after a bull run because the market will go down to the bottom, I guess it's a repeatable strategy because these phases will come and go.
We sell assets during a bull run, not after it because after it was a bear market already but don't worry I still got your point there. It's like you are saying that the market works in two cycle and old events does repeat. We only need to wait or stop trading for a while if our old strategy is not working anymore. Other than that, we can also invent another new strategy which will be perfect for the current market condition.

That way we can still continue trading and possibly earn something even if it's only small amounts. A small amount is still better than nothing and it won't really bother us as long as we still have other sources of income.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
If you know a thing or two about programming or coding, you should know that there are a lot of programming languages, and almost all of them are used for different purposes and has different use cases and powers of their own, but, almost all of them have some similarities among them.

So even if a new programming language is developed, having knowledge of a previous language helps you learn it more quickly or maybe sometimes use things from the old one in the new one. Similarly in trading, an old strategy should always stay with you, even if there is a new strategy that you develop yourself or just adapt, your old strategy will still be able to assist you at times.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Yes, old strategies should never be outdated and should always be constantly changed if needed. That is because the market is also making a constant change, so strategies should also adopt whatever the market condition is. However, old strategies might still be used in the future as they never become obsolete. But only the market condition will tell if one will work or not, so you need to keep on updating or retesting it again and again.
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March 22, 2023, 09:26:22 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Old or new, it doesnt really count at all because anything could really be that relevant in terms of market conditions.I dont know on why someone could be able to determine those old strategies and new ones that you had made out considering that it is really just that the same.Its up to yours whether you would be making use of it on particular scenario or would make an another one.

It doesnt really that much in concern though on what strategies you would be using because what matter most is on how to make it that effective on such market condition.
We cant even assure that even newly created one would be that effective or does work.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Old or new, it doesnt really count at all because anything could really be that relevant in terms of market conditions.I dont know on why someone could be able to determine those old strategies and new ones that you had made out considering that it is really just that the same.Its up to yours whether you would be making use of it on particular scenario or would make an another one.

It doesnt really that much in concern though on what strategies you would be using because what matter most is on how to make it that effective on such market condition.
We cant even assure that even newly created one would be that effective or does work.

It depends on the coin or token you are trading with as old or new strategies can work depending on what is happening with the project.
This question is very subjective as each project has their own progress of developments as well as features they are selling to the community.
So you need to know and be familiar with the project itself to know what particular strategy you need to apply.
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Using old strategies can be useful but also depends on market conditions and situations. If market conditions and situations are similar to previous market conditions, maybe we can immediately use the same strategy without modifying it. But if the situation changes, we must modify the strategy to work in the current market conditions. Instead, I often use a new strategy every time I trade because I find that the market movements I encounter are always changing and it forces me to keep making strategies. Even in one trade, I can prepare two or more strategies to anticipate market movements changing direction.
It all depends on the market circumstances and how we have amended it to work for us. We can't just long on to an old trading strategy without working on it so that it can work with the current market. We know the cryptocurrency market do not work the same always and things happens based on different reasons. If we need to make us of an old trading strategy them we need to look into the market and adjust our strategy in a way that it will work accordingly to the current market movement. If we are able to do this, we should be ready to make improvement in our profit making.

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As long as we're dealing with the same market then old strategy is still going to work. Btw you know the market doesn't just work with only one strategy so that strategy that you think is the best might turn out to just be a waste of time while the one you thing is archaic will turn out to be the best.
So when your trading don't just work with one strategy alone try to change and if you feel your strategy isn't good enough then try to modify it and look for why it's not working the way you want it to.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Considering the volatility of the price of the coins right now in the short-term, I am pretty confident that the strategies I did in my day trading back in the days would work. My day trading strategy before did not just work out at the end because the price was like just stabilizing around a certain price mark. Had used Bollinger Band and RSI and nothing just worked out in the end.

I do not do day trading anymore since I was earning just.....losses and nothing more than that.
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Can old trading strategies work again?


It can, and I believe the reason for it is because markets move in cycles, and the psychology of the participants of the market adjust together with it through the cycles.

I know that sounds confusing, but the best way I can explain it is when everyone uses the same trading strategy, its effectiveness to gain profit becomes less and less. Let's pretend everyone want an "old strategy" of buying the DIP, waiting for the right DIP. The market would then go lower and lower, giving opportunity to the short sellers = the right trading strategy for the current cycle. But the selling won't last because the market WILL run out of sellers, THEN the "old strategy" of buying the DIP starts working again.

It's merely a simplification of a more complex topic, sorry if I can't explain it good enough.

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Using old strategies can be useful but also depends on market conditions and situations. If market conditions and situations are similar to previous market conditions, maybe we can immediately use the same strategy without modifying it. But if the situation changes, we must modify the strategy to work in the current market conditions. Instead, I often use a new strategy every time I trade because I find that the market movements I encounter are always changing and it forces me to keep making strategies. Even in one trade, I can prepare two or more strategies to anticipate market movements changing direction.
It all depends on the market circumstances and how we have amended it to work for us. We can't just long on to an old trading strategy without working on it so that it can work with the current market. We know the cryptocurrency market do not work the same always and things happens based on different reasons. If we need to make us of an old trading strategy them we need to look into the market and adjust our strategy in a way that it will work accordingly to the current market movement. If we are able to do this, we should be ready to make improvement in our profit making.
That's why we have to learn about trading in more depth to make or find the right strategy according to the market conditions at that time. The more we learn, we can get something useful for ourselves and of course, we can make a lot of strategies for these conditions different. The old strategy can work again with the condition that market conditions are the same as before or at least have similar movements to previous conditions so that we can know when to enter the market. And the advantage of having many strategies is that we can try to analyze them to find out what strategies can work for that situation.
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My point of view, no need to be too rigid or conservative, I mean the market is always constantly changing and what we need to do is to constantly learn new things for ourselves. The old or new strategy does not matter, as long as you can make a profit from it, you can keep and continue using it. If the old strategy does not work well, you need to find a new strategy. Profit is what we are targeting so use everything you can as long as you guarantee your profits.

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My point of view, no need to be too rigid or conservative, I mean the market is always constantly changing and what we need to do is to constantly learn new things for ourselves. The old or new strategy does not matter, as long as you can make a profit from it, you can keep and continue using it. If the old strategy does not work well, you need to find a new strategy. Profit is what we are targeting so use everything you can as long as you guarantee your profits.
The market changes and so we need to adapt to the current situation which could also affect our strategies and could possibly never work effectively. That is why we also have to develop new strategies that fit the current condition of the market otherwise, losses are what we get. Because the truth is that these old strategies will come to the point that they were no longer usable, they become obsolete. In fact, trading tools will be changed as well together with as we use new strategies. 

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March 23, 2023, 12:39:48 PM
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I believe you have to be flexible when it comes to trading. Trial and error is the key, if one or two strategies didn't work out for you, try other ones. You don't have to limit yourself from one or two trading strategies, if your old strategies doesn't work anymore, it could be either you're doing it wrong or you need to level up your approach. There's a lot of rooms to grow in trading, you can't make profits if you're not going to get out of your comfort zone.
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I believe you have to be flexible when it comes to trading. Trial and error is the key, if one or two strategies didn't work out for you, try other ones. You don't have to limit yourself from one or two trading strategies, if your old strategies doesn't work anymore, it could be either you're doing it wrong or you need to level up your approach. There's a lot of rooms to grow in trading, you can't make profits if you're not going to get out of your comfort zone.
Flexible or versatile in short on which you would really be needing this kind of characteristic specially when you are dealing with an unpredictable market.You cant really just make things for you to be conclusive
if a certain old strategy doesnt work rather than on new one.How you would be able to determine such way? We know that the market does have certain conditions which it doesnt matter on what kind of strategy you would be using neither old or new, it doesnt matter much.The thing on here is that you do really know on what you are doing because if you dont have any idea on what you are doing then
you are just simply taking up some gamble.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.
Old strategies cannot be used all the time, as the market condition varies, so you also need to create a new working strategy or just revise or update the old strategy so it can still work and be as reliable like before. But  most traders do not prefer to use the old strategies as they can be outdated and become less productive anymore. Instead, they develop new strategies that will favor the current market condition and continue to use it until it becomes no longer profitable.

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~ do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
I have no reason to forget any strategy that I ever used. If it may work again in the future, why don't to use it again, right?  Wink
We use a trading strategy because of its effectiveness, not about a new one or an old one. So, whenever a certain strategy can be effective to use, we should use the strategy. Never consider whether it is an old strategy or a new strategy. We don't follow a trend of a certain strategy but choose a strategy to optimize the chance for profits.


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They may be or maybe not. It actually depends on how you trade in the market, if you prefer to use old or new developed strategies. However, old strategies may still be considered productive in the future if they are being updated or recondition and improve its ability to be still usable and productive. But you can always create something new, and develop a strategy based on your trading experiences in the market for years.

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They may be or maybe not. It actually depends on how you trade in the market, if you prefer to use old or new developed strategies. However, old strategies may still be considered productive in the future if they are being updated or recondition and improve its ability to be still usable and productive. But you can always create something new, and develop a strategy based on your trading experiences in the market for years.
Not that I see it as productive anymore nor it was effective due to the changing situation of the market. In order to keep on profiting, using new strategies is what we need. Might can use the old strategies when it was applicable but never have to rely on them as this can be efficient anymore. As the market continues to improve, we also have to go along with it and do some strategies upgrade as well just to coop up the needs otherwise, we get out of track and make the wrong sell/buy position.



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March 23, 2023, 10:21:10 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

Different strategies are created because of different trends in the market. You can't expect the market to have the same behavior and condition.

We can't really stick with a few strategies even how proven effective it is in our experience as there are lots of "what if" scenarios in the market that needs a different approach and therefore, needs a new strategy.

Simply, we will never know if a certain strategy is effective or not, if we don't test it on actual.

There are no old strategies but rather those are not just effective at a certainly given market trend.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
It is important to keep old strategies in mind, as they may be useful in the future. You never know when the market conditions may change and an old strategy may start working once again. It is also important to note that old strategies may need to be tweaked or modified in order to be successful in the current market conditions. I have experienced this before and have had old strategies work for me in the past. It is possible for old strategies to work in the future, and it is important to keep them in mind and be open to tweaking or modifying them if necessary.

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If the old strategy or the current strategy you've been using right now does not work at all I guess this is the time to change your strategy now it's more ideal than risk your funds and yourself in too much frustration due to failing your trades.

Old strategy can be a lesson to you for your mistakes and it makes sense to avoid the future execution of trades.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
When it comes to crypto currencies, the market is always evolving, so should your trading strategies. If one of your strategies works today, after few weeks or months, chances are that it might not work anymore. You will need to come up with new strategies that will work with the current market situations. But yeah, you should also not toss away your old strategies. They might work again in the future if the market condition goes back to the previous state and you can also analyze the old trading strategies to learn something new!

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If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Super yes! I will not really be against this. Especially the strategy that you already master it. And for me, the strategy does not matter if that is old or new, as long as is it working and giving you good profits, it's all good.
Once you are good at that strategy, you always use it because that strategy is giving you profits.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
When it comes to crypto currencies, the market is always evolving, so should your trading strategies. If one of your strategies works today, after few weeks or months, chances are that it might not work anymore. You will need to come up with new strategies that will work with the current market situations. But yeah, you should also not toss away your old strategies. They might work again in the future if the market condition goes back to the previous state and you can also analyze the old trading strategies to learn something new!
How can you define an old strategies and new strategies? is that the old strategies came from the old trading books and the new strategies are the trending strategies currently in the internet? For me all of the strategies work, it is how you apply it. Application is the crucial ones in the trading, you can still lose huge amount of money even if you have good trading strategies then your application is not that good.

Before you apply your trading strategy,ask yourself with this question: does the money that I put for this trade is the money that I can afford to lose? do I have a stop loss for this trade? What is my Value at risk with this trade? What will I do if I did not get position? Is it okay for me to get stop loss. If you can answer those questions, there is a high probability that you can make money from your trading strategies. Remember that how you think about trading is the most important thing because your analysis will not help you if your mental fortitude is not good. Invest on things that can help your mental fortitude to grow wherein your trading environment can become healthy that can help you to find the way into consistency and profitability.
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I'm not sure that one trading strategy can be used often because the current situation has changed a lot. The market is now more volatile than in recent years and this makes us have to have more strategies by learning more to anticipate what is happening in the market.

And if I already use one strategy, I will make another strategy that might help the strategy I used before so I can adapt to market conditions. My strategy will depend on market movements because if the market moves not to match to my analysis, I will change my strategy to another.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
It’s always possible so instead of forgetting them, take some chance to update them, improve and enhance their effectivity before you start reapplying them. If they are still not working, that’s the time to develop new strategies that you think will suit to the market condition, and keep on retesting them in times the market condition varies.

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March 24, 2023, 08:23:04 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
It’s always possible so instead of forgetting them, take some chance to update them, improve and enhance their effectivity before you start reapplying them. If they are still not working, that’s the time to develop new strategies that you think will suit to the market condition, and keep on retesting them in times the market condition varies.
This idea that a successful strategy can somehow suddenly become ineffective is a mistake in my mind, a strategy either works or it does not, and if you take the time to backtest your strategy against different markets and conditions and it still makes money then there is no way that such a strategy suddenly become obsolete, this can only happen if the strategy was not good to begin with, for example there are people that made money with NFTs and now they are trying to do the same and to their surprise they cannot make money with those tokens anymore, it is obvious that they were just using the hype at the time and once that was gone they cannot generate any money at all, however I would not consider such a thing as a strategy, but maybe I am to strict on my requirements of what I consider a strategy.
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March 24, 2023, 09:33:25 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.

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March 25, 2023, 01:51:57 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.
Old strategy do works again in trading specifically when the market retraces back to the solid formulation of the season, it can be either a bull or bear. There are seasons which will consumed more losses from traders and it's very unfavorable to the investors because it would seems like all the solid projects took a U-turn and becomes dump projects in the space. However I wouldn't advised or wished for any trader or investor to experience such a terrible situation, because the results will drained their mindset and they will possessed FUD and FOMO when the market rebounce back to strong spot.

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March 25, 2023, 04:55:13 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.
Old strategy do works again in trading specifically when the market retraces back to the solid formulation of the season, it can be either a bull or bear. There are seasons which will consumed more losses from traders and it's very unfavorable to the investors because it would seems like all the solid projects took a U-turn and becomes dump projects in the space. However I wouldn't advised or wished for any trader or investor to experience such a terrible situation, because the results will drained their mindset and they will possessed FUD and FOMO when the market rebounce back to strong spot.
but we can't assume that it was effective just like before. We also have to understand the situation that the market trend is quite changing from time to time which I see some upgrades to our old strategies would even help more and more effective. As a trader, it was very important that we have to analyze the market well and were also able to assess if our strategies are still working or if we need to change them. This is what we called diversification as we can't stay forever using old strategies but also have to bare the current market condition.

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March 25, 2023, 09:37:41 AM
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Trading strategies in the cryptocurrency markets, like any other investment strategy, require updating and modifications as the market changes and conditions change. New strategies can give better results if they take into account current market trends and new developments.
However, one should not completely forget about old strategies that have worked well in the past. They can be stored in memory and used when market conditions suit them. It is also worth considering that market conditions are constantly changing, and that what worked in the past may not work in the future.
As a result, in order to successfully trade in the cryptocurrency markets, you need to remain flexible and ready to adapt to changes in the market, constantly updating and modifying your trading strategies.
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Trading strategy changes from time to time. But market behavior comes around in a circle. One strategy may stop working for a while, but when history repeats itself, it will be useful again. We collect data from past price movements and trade based on it. If we are trading based on the past, then it is obvious that the past strategy could work again. You just need to fine tune it a bit at market's demand.
It is the best to have multiple strategy and use them simultaneously based on market condition. But you can definitely re-use old strategy.
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I don't know what strategy you used, but I think the pattern of trading will be the same. You can still use the strategy you have when the circumstances allow it. all you need to do is adapt, see the progress of the charts, as well as the information available. if the circumstances are suitable for the strategy you are using, then give it a try. however, if not, then you need to adapt, and try new strategies.
Apart from that, people still use the basics of trading, namely buying low and selling high. to determine that, we really need to adapt to market conditions, and look for accurate information whether the price of the coin we are targeting will go down or up. the strategy for doing that, can use your old way or your new one, and it all depends on the conditions.

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March 25, 2023, 02:42:13 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

There is nothing unique about trading that new traders are using today, the only improvements that could differ from the traditional methods are the indicators. However what use are indicators if you don't comprehend the fundamentals of trading? The fundamentals, such as the trend line, the supports, and the widely used indicators like MA, Volume, and MACD, are still in place. The only unique thing is to be smart as a trader and that will differentiate you from other traders. I think before trading of crypto began, all of this have been existing in stock and forex and they still used the same information for trading till today
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.
They will be less effective if we fail to upgrade them and update to their latest version. That is to fit in with how the market behaves currently. However, if those strategies have made you consistently losing from trading, I think there’s something wrong with your strategies or there’s something wrong with how you trade, maybe you fail to make a good analysis on the market. Whatever it is, you should always check your strategy if it’s still working, otherwise you have yo create and develop new strategy that will suit the market’s current behavior or condition.
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.
They will be less effective if we fail to upgrade them and update to their latest version. That is to fit in with how the market behaves currently. However, if those strategies have made you consistently losing from trading, I think there’s something wrong with your strategies or there’s something wrong with how you trade, maybe you fail to make a good analysis on the market. Whatever it is, you should always check your strategy if it’s still working, otherwise you have yo create and develop new strategy that will suit the market’s current behavior or condition.
Effectiveness is something that cant really be determined because no matter if its new or old because this market has nothing to do if ever you do make use of old methods or strategies.
Its either new or old as long it does give out some considerable winning and profitable trades then this what matter the most.Just like on what others been saying that you should really be that versatile
or could really make out some positive results because you are the ones who would really be making out adjustments if ever one of those strats wont work.Of course it would be normal
that you would be finding for something new which you would really be having that trial and error.

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March 25, 2023, 11:26:47 PM
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sometimes I think that having some strategies in trading nowadays rather irrelevant mainly because everything revolves around the current hype and trend.
you just couldn't expect the text book strategy will just works, many of them are miss or hit, even there are many saying that these trading guide book are just a way for the whales in determining many individuals traders move so they could easily take advantage of it and make some profits.
I'd say just trade based on your analysis on the project, if it happens that it gets corrected when you already accumulating then you could just simply hold for some time, I think that is simply best strategy.

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March 26, 2023, 02:42:48 PM
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Effectiveness is something that cant really be determined because no matter if its new or old because this market has nothing to do if ever you do make use of old methods or strategies.
Its either new or old as long it does give out some considerable winning and profitable trades then this what matter the most.Just like on what others been saying that you should really be that versatile
or could really make out some positive results because you are the ones who would really be making out adjustments if ever one of those strats wont work.Of course it would be normal
that you would be finding for something new which you would really be having that trial and error.
If we talk about old or new strategy, I don't think it has much effect on your profit.
There is no such thing as a market following a strategy but a strategy that follows the direction of the market, for example the market is trending down, we must follow the movement of the price direction within a certain period of time.
Never force a strategy if it is no longer suitable for the current market conditions.

You are right, use the most effective strategy that can reduce the level of losses, I myself always use this method, following current market conditions and not being pushed by old or new strategies.

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but we can't assume that it was effective just like before. We also have to understand the situation that the market trend is quite changing from time to time which I see some upgrades to our old strategies would even help more and more effective. As a trader, it was very important that we have to analyze the market well and were also able to assess if our strategies are still working or if we need to change them. This is what we called diversification as we can't stay forever using old strategies but also have to bare the current market condition.
If the strategy works, then it doesn’t matter to me whether it is new or old, only the result is important. I know that there are traders who actively trade only in a bull market (local or global), but if the market is bear, they just wait. This is also a strategy, so you can’t say that new strategies are good and old ones are bad, you can even combine different strategies to create some of your own that will work for you in the best way.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
When it comes to long term trading, a trader must know that the strategy he has taken is based on analysis. Many times trading strategy does not work even after doing good analysis, because no one knows the future, and the reason for saying this is that the market condition always depends on the global economic condition of that time, and also the rules and regulations, and since it is a changing process.  It is natural that many times the old strategy will not work.
And I don't think those professional smart traders goes for sleep with a single strategy after investing money. They are always aware of the market conditions and are always ready to make adjustments to the strategy as needed.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
The market structure needs alot of strategy to keep it stable and running, a strategy is based on your personal analysis about the market situation so whether new or old no strategy is old in as much as the end result is achieved successfully.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

It all depends on the trader, if you think trying out a nee strategy is ok for you then why not especially when you're not having result as it used to be, one must definitely try out something new, as at this current time, the most common strategies is to use DCA in making an investment which is a long time one, we also have some trading pattern that can be suitable base on choice and required needs, day trading is somehow commonly used by many because everyone wants a daily return on investment.



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but we can't assume that it was effective just like before. We also have to understand the situation that the market trend is quite changing from time to time which I see some upgrades to our old strategies would even help more and more effective. As a trader, it was very important that we have to analyze the market well and were also able to assess if our strategies are still working or if we need to change them. This is what we called diversification as we can't stay forever using old strategies but also have to bare the current market condition.
If the strategy works, then it doesn’t matter to me whether it is new or old, only the result is important. I know that there are traders who actively trade only in a bull market (local or global), but if the market is bear, they just wait. This is also a strategy, so you can’t say that new strategies are good and old ones are bad, you can even combine different strategies to create some of your own that will work for you in the best way.
Well, there are even cases that old strategies are even highly effective than the new ones. So it does not matter actually if you use the old or the new one, as long as it fits the current market condition, trading will be successful. However, most of the strategies don’t last forever. That’s why we have to check often the effectivity of such strategy and just discard those that are no longer working and take advantage with those that are still highly effective.

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If they are relevant then they will, if they are not good and just happen to work at a specific time back in the day, then it won't. I have to tell you that there is a good chance people would end up with a lot of trouble if they keep trying something that doesn't work. I have seen people make a lot of money with a strategy before, and kept trying to use it again and again and never make any money with it after that.

Some strategies makes you money once but then they are bad and should be avoided. If we are talking about one like that then it wouldn't work but if we are talking about one of the golden old ones then it will eventually work in the end of course.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
We can't say that they will still work efficiently but I was sure that some of them can still be usable in some situations. We can still use some of them but it is also important that we need to develop or make some upgrades to our strategies in order to cope with the continuous market changes. It is to know that the market behavior is quite changing as well. If we could think, there are old and new strategies it means that traders continue creating and developing strategies just to align the market behavior and so we need to adopt them as well.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
I knew a lot of strategy and all of them are working, like pattern, SNR, ICT, SMC concept and others. But that doesn't mean I have to use them all in my trading journey. However you can confluence them to your strat but you should focus on a strategy or main strategy if you want to be successful in trading and you should have to refine it in order to fix something in order for your strat to increase it's probability of winning. I also experienced using those strategies, and I won in my trades. But when I experience losses, I switch to another strat which is wrong. Because losses are normal. You just need to master risk management and psychology and then stick to your plan. Just like what Rektproof is doing, a professional trader who turns his 500$ starting balance into $359,301. He's still experience losses in his trades but because of risk management and proper mindset, he became successful.

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Old strategies don't always 100% gets old as they will be reckoned with and be needed someday. So the fact that you mastered a good strategy working perfectly with the older ones you're tactically skilled shouldn't make one forget it completely.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
I think that there are three types of trading strategies categories.
- Classic: These are strategies that can never change. They are based on timeless, tested, tried and true trading principles that have been since the inception of trading. They can never change or be modified because once done right it brings it the desired reward.

-Old: These are just old trading strategies that used to work sometime in the past but do not work anymore. They were like the hot cake them and people easily followed them, but they were developed to for the different market to bring and so as the market changes, they become obsolete.

-New: These are strategies that comes up when old strategies are abandoned. They can also be used in addition to the classic strategies to make them work better. New strategies are like tips and tricks. They work at the moment and soon may stop working. They need to be modified frequently to help them stay relevant.

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-New: These are strategies that comes up when old strategies are abandoned. They can also be used in addition to the classic strategies to make them work better. New strategies are like tips and tricks. They work at the moment and soon may stop working. They need to be modified frequently to help them stay relevant.

I think a new strategy is new thinking from the results of old strategic thinking that is raised to adjust to the new current situation. So there is a big relationship between the old strategy and the new strategy. We can't separate that relationship. Basically what I think the strategy is the same hasn't changed much from when I started trading in 2015. So I continued to use old techniques combined on new styles. Indeed, market conditions have changed, but the cycle of trust in coins and bitcoin is still the same.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Trading doesn't have old strategies and new strategies, the fact is that when you are trading frequently you understand the factors that hinders you during the process, so when you have understand the loopholes that leads you into failure in trading and try to avoiding them it looks like you have a acquire new style or strategies of escaping lost in trading, the major thing we don't understand is that practice make perfect,  and its very obvious in trading.
There are odl and new strategiee in trading because when the old one stops working we need to generate or work on a strategy that would give us what we want as a trader. I don't care of what people dontakk about trading but we need to understand that a strategy can not keep working for us forever. It will get to a time when the strategy will  fade off and it will not be giving us the kind of profits we want or continually giving us a bad outcome. When we noticed that we keep trading andbwe are not making profits from the market, we need to know that the strategy is no more working.









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-New: These are strategies that comes up when old strategies are abandoned. They can also be used in addition to the classic strategies to make them work better. New strategies are like tips and tricks. They work at the moment and soon may stop working. They need to be modified frequently to help them stay relevant.

I think a new strategy is new thinking from the results of old strategic thinking that is raised to adjust to the new current situation. So there is a big relationship between the old strategy and the new strategy. We can't separate that relationship. Basically what I think the strategy is the same hasn't changed much from when I started trading in 2015. So I continued to use old techniques combined on new styles. Indeed, market conditions have changed, but the cycle of trust in coins and bitcoin is still the same.
Besides many strategies are very similar at their core, while you may use a set of different indicators they are all calculated from the very same data, they are just trying to measure something different and as such the data receives different treatment to make that aspect of the market more obvious, this is why a talented trader can earn money in almost any market condition while using any indicator, as once they discover once how to do it they can create hundreds of different strategies to accomplish the same thing.
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Most of the trading strategies can be effective for a certain period of time, but as market conditions and trends change, the same strategy may not be as successful. It is  important to continually adapt and evolve your strategies to stay ahead of the market and take advantage of new opportunities, it is always a good idea to keep a record of past trading strategies that have worked for you. You can review and analyze them to see if they can be adjusted and applied to current market conditions. Some times some strategies may work better in certain market conditions or with specific assets, so keeping a record of your successful past strategies can be helpful in identifying opportunities in the future.
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-New: These are strategies that comes up when old strategies are abandoned. They can also be used in addition to the classic strategies to make them work better. New strategies are like tips and tricks. They work at the moment and soon may stop working. They need to be modified frequently to help them stay relevant.

I think a new strategy is new thinking from the results of old strategic thinking that is raised to adjust to the new current situation. So there is a big relationship between the old strategy and the new strategy. We can't separate that relationship. Basically what I think the strategy is the same hasn't changed much from when I started trading in 2015. So I continued to use old techniques combined on new styles. Indeed, market conditions have changed, but the cycle of trust in coins and bitcoin is still the same.
Besides many strategies are very similar at their core, while you may use a set of different indicators they are all calculated from the very same data, they are just trying to measure something different and as such the data receives different treatment to make that aspect of the market more obvious, this is why a talented trader can earn money in almost any market condition while using any indicator, as once they discover once how to do it they can create hundreds of different strategies to accomplish the same thing.
We know that indicators been used by most traders do really just the same, it would really just make out some differentiation when it comes to its value or numbers but in overall it is really just on the same approach.

This do really vary on how people do make out their own strategies which they do believe that it could possibly work with the current market dealing.We've seen lots and it cant be avoided that you would alter your own

strategy on the time that you do see that it is something that really looks good but in overall, there's no new or old when it comes to this because there's no exact thing that could really be able to
predict this random market which news and other fundamentals could easily affect its price movement.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Trading doesn't have old strategies and new strategies, the fact is that when you are trading frequently you understand the factors that hinders you during the process, so when you have understand the loopholes that leads you into failure in trading and try to avoiding them it looks like you have a acquire new style or strategies of escaping lost in trading, the major thing we don't understand is that practice make perfect,  and its very obvious in trading.
There are odl and new strategiee in trading because when the old one stops working we need to generate or work on a strategy that would give us what we want as a trader. I don't care of what people dontakk about trading but we need to understand that a strategy can not keep working for us forever. It will get to a time when the strategy will  fade off and it will not be giving us the kind of profits we want or continually giving us a bad outcome. When we noticed that we keep trading andbwe are not making profits from the market, we need to know that the strategy is no more working.
As I said before that new methods of Trading is the solution you observe during your participation in trading, so therefore it's not been pronounced that this will be the methods of someone can use to manover some trade, if it happens to so, many people would have be using the new skills of Trading to make profit instead of the normal trading  method we all know its regulation. What I will agree with you guys, is that  the will be new experience and observation when you are a subsequent trader, so those newly observations can be seen or referred as new strategies of Trading.

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I think a new strategy is new thinking from the results of old strategic thinking that is raised to adjust to the new current situation. So there is a big relationship between the old strategy and the new strategy. We can't separate that relationship. Basically what I think the strategy is the same hasn't changed much from when I started trading in 2015. So I continued to use old techniques combined on new styles. Indeed, market conditions have changed, but the cycle of trust in coins and bitcoin is still the same.
Besides many strategies are very similar at their core, while you may use a set of different indicators they are all calculated from the very same data, they are just trying to measure something different and as such the data receives different treatment to make that aspect of the market more obvious, this is why a talented trader can earn money in almost any market condition while using any indicator, as once they discover once how to do it they can create hundreds of different strategies to accomplish the same thing.
That is the point of trading, to find that one truth, and while you may want to use different ways to find it, the real truth is just a single one and nothing else would ever be the result. If you know what you are doing, no matter how much fundamental analysis you do, no matter how much technical analysis you do, no matter what indicators you use, it will always be one single result if you are right, all of them will show the same thing.

Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

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Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

It is technically good, but fundamentally negative then the technical will fail. I understand this since I started trading precisely in 2015. So basically at the moment there are only two strategies that apply in the trading market. That is technical and fundamental and still plus mental management. That combination is an old way that I still use today. Although it does need adjustment to current market conditions. But indeed everyone has their own way that is adapted to comfort and that is what differentiates.

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The question of if or if not an old trading strategy can work again depends on if the strategy is outdated or not, not whether it is old.

If the strategy is outdated due to a better, more accurate strategy existing or because the strategy does not work for modern times, then obviously it is better to avoid it and go with something better. But again, in order to find that out you have to understand the fundamental workings of said strategy. Some of them are completely timeless while others have gone completely extinct since the age of the internet.

But this topic has gotten me thinking...I would love to go through some ancient trading strategies, perhaps I can find resurrect a hidden gem?

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To clarify, market conditions change. Take the 2008 crisis as an example. When central banks loosed their monetary polices, the market conditions changed. When central banks began tightening their monetary policies, conditions changed again.

The same applies to crypto. Market conditions change, certain strategies will only work under certain conditions. In theory, the same conditions that were present initially can repeat themselves. When? Nobody knows until it happens.

(experienced traders should understand the above).
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Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

It is technically good, but fundamentally negative then the technical will fail. I understand this since I started trading precisely in 2015. So basically at the moment there are only two strategies that apply in the trading market. That is technical and fundamental and still plus mental management. That combination is an old way that I still use today. Although it does need adjustment to current market conditions. But indeed everyone has their own way that is adapted to comfort and that is what differentiates.

Strategies won't last and will not exist until now if it isn't effective. It only depends on how we apply it and how we deal with the volatility of the market. Both technical and fundamental analyses are needed for us to make concrete decisions when trading. I think the best strategy or edge that we can have when trading is knowledge of what we are doing and managing the risks. Lack of knowledge especially about the basics will surely lead us to losses despite applying the most recent or latest strategies that we know.
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Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

It is technically good, but fundamentally negative then the technical will fail. I understand this since I started trading precisely in 2015. So basically at the moment there are only two strategies that apply in the trading market. That is technical and fundamental and still plus mental management. That combination is an old way that I still use today. Although it does need adjustment to current market conditions. But indeed everyone has their own way that is adapted to comfort and that is what differentiates.

Strategies won't last and will not exist until now if it isn't effective. It only depends on how we apply it and how we deal with the volatility of the market. Both technical and fundamental analyses are needed for us to make concrete decisions when trading. I think the best strategy or edge that we can have when trading is knowledge of what we are doing and managing the risks. Lack of knowledge especially about the basics will surely lead us to losses despite applying the most recent or latest strategies that we know.
There's no such thing about a fixed strategy that would work for long term or would really be working permanently.We would really be definitely be able to realize this on the time we had stepped our foot

into this market.You would be working and trying out to make different strategies as much as you could considering that market could change up from time to time on which it would really be just that

right that you would be making up other combinations and tools which it would really be able to read up a certain price condition or do make out patterns.We know that
TA's arent that precise to make use but it is better rather than having none at all.

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Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

It is technically good, but fundamentally negative then the technical will fail. I understand this since I started trading precisely in 2015. So basically at the moment there are only two strategies that apply in the trading market. That is technical and fundamental and still plus mental management. That combination is an old way that I still use today. Although it does need adjustment to current market conditions. But indeed everyone has their own way that is adapted to comfort and that is what differentiates.

Strategies won't last and will not exist until now if it isn't effective. It only depends on how we apply it and how we deal with the volatility of the market. Both technical and fundamental analyses are needed for us to make concrete decisions when trading. I think the best strategy or edge that we can have when trading is knowledge of what we are doing and managing the risks. Lack of knowledge especially about the basics will surely lead us to losses despite applying the most recent or latest strategies that we know.
There's no such thing about a fixed strategy that would work for long term or would really be working permanently.We would really be definitely be able to realize this on the time we had stepped our foot

into this market.You would be working and trying out to make different strategies as much as you could considering that market could change up from time to time on which it would really be just that

right that you would be making up other combinations and tools which it would really be able to read up a certain price condition or do make out patterns.We know that
TA's arent that precise to make use but it is better rather than having none at all.
While no strategy wins all the time and you can still encounter some short term losses, make no mistake, the whole point of using a specific strategy is because you have through your research find out that your strategy works over the long term, and the only way to do this is to test it out against different market conditions and markets, a research which will show that your strategy does indeed work over long periods of time and it is worth using, and if you find the opposite then that is a strategy not worth implementing and you should keep looking for it.
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The old strategy is work but not always in fact there is no strategy or indicator that always work Is impossible to predict the market.

and other fact usually pine script programming or mt4 programmer is code by combining multiple trade indicator to made a new one.

So yeah we need to be people who know the future to made strategy accurately 100% works

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Well, there are even cases that old strategies are even highly effective than the new ones. So it does not matter actually if you use the old or the new one, as long as it fits the current market condition, trading will be successful. However, most of the strategies don’t last forever. That’s why we have to check often the effectivity of such strategy and just discard those that are no longer working and take advantage with those that are still highly effective.
A strategy basically depends on how the market behaves at a certain time, so if the market isn't behaving differently even today after a month or a quarter then the old strategy would probably still work, but if markets start to behave differently over the course, there will surely be a need of making some changes in the strategy or sometimes it may even change entirely.

Old strategies can still be useful even if there are new strategies being used as they will probably have some basic stuff that is still the same and if you have learned them, they can help you with the new strategy that you are going to adapt.

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The question of if or if not an old trading strategy can work again depends on if the strategy is outdated or not, not whether it is old.

If the strategy is outdated due to a better, more accurate strategy existing or because the strategy does not work for modern times, then obviously it is better to avoid it and go with something better. But again, in order to find that out you have to understand the fundamental workings of said strategy. Some of them are completely timeless while others have gone completely extinct since the age of the internet.

But this topic has gotten me thinking...I would love to go through some ancient trading strategies, perhaps I can find resurrect a hidden gem?
Old fashioned strategies still work,but it all depends on how it is been used.If the need for an old strategy is required in order for a successful trading,then one needs to use it to get what is wanted.There are different strategies or approaches that are used while trading,some persons stig to their old stategy which still works for them nomatter the time that has passed,while some persons switch from their former strategy to a more working strategy,all are used in order to get a positive result.
I still use the strategy I have been using for a long period of time because it is still working for me,and I'm not ready to change it,because when last I changed strategy,it didn't give me a positive result as I wanted.
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this is just my opinion, I think this strategy will probably be useful in the future because the market is like a recurring obstacle course, so if you have a different path you can try another strategy, then when you return to the old path then the strategy will work again .
if it is exactly the same as what you tell,market conditions will continue to repeatedly rise and fall, but will continue to rise in the long term.

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April 03, 2023, 10:18:33 AM
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Everyday in trading world, new strategies emergies and old strategies are still in use.
The adoption of new strategies are sometimes reformation of the old one. Despite the adoption of new strategies, the old one will still be there because it will still be working.
Old strategy will always work in future. The changes in the market requires change in strategy. Understanding these changes and apply them when needed at the monent will help your trading a lot.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

OP, what you have said is more to be looked into. Old strategies are ok to use but you know as time goes on, new development and technology emanate which calls for upgrade. You upgrading means you discovering new more strategy but however discovering new strategy does not mean you neglecting your old  one you can combine both  then apply it to a trade which seems difficult for you or you use the knowledge gained from that old trading to make your way through the complexity of any trade you find yourself in.
The idea of studying a market trend is very much important as well as stated by a member while commenting on this topic that would give you a guideline on how to enter the market and also know the exact trading technique you will implore to scale through in that trade.
So In essence, no trading knowledge or idea is a waste. You can combine them in achieving a positive result while trading.

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April 03, 2023, 03:52:08 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
If the surrounding situation is right compared to the strategy then yes definitely the old strategy can be useful in trading. But most of the time strategy has to be changed with time interval because world economy is not go through the same all the time or whole market condition is not same as it is not stable so strategy has to be changed with time. So I think it's never wise to sleep on a strategy, it's a smart trader's job to analyze the need over time or stay active.

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April 03, 2023, 04:15:57 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Trading doesn't have old strategies and new strategies, the fact is that when you are trading frequently you understand the factors that hinders you during the process, so when you have understand the loopholes that leads you into failure in trading and try to avoiding them it looks like you have a acquire new style or strategies of escaping lost in trading, the major thing we don't understand is that practice make perfect,  and its very obvious in trading.
Good point. In addition to that, you should adopt yourself in every new situation. That’s why the strategy always changes depending on the market condition, it means each one can be useful and effective in a short period and few conditions. In opinion, it is really essential to start with analyzing the market before trading. Also, reading cryptocurrency charts is important  too. Plus, it is always better to create your own strategies instead of following traders especially if you are able or capable to. Some newbies hire private experts in trading, and give them % of profits like 10-15% depending of the budget. Maybe that’s the easiest way to gain money with less effort in trading field.

Unfortunately, there is a plenty of beginners who make wrong decisions without even knowing the basics of trading. They losing money because of greediness and lack of knowledge. You should take your time by reading and learning this field before even starting. That’s how it works. Step by step until your reach your goal.
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .

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April 03, 2023, 05:25:43 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Definitely old strategy might work again in future, you can't be using one particular pattern forever, so whenever you are trading, you have to make sure you keep on trying new strategies, you don't just rely on just one strategy when trading, always go on  research to discover new ones and you can also try the once you have used before, they might endup working for you again, because you have once used a trading strategy those not mean you shouldn't try it again, but am not saying if you try it again it will work for you, it might not work for you after trying it.

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April 03, 2023, 06:05:10 PM
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .
Trade only what you can lose is the old strategy that will apply in all things. I think old strategy can be a good thing for starters but in the long run we need to understand how the market will grow and how it will work, we don't need to focus too much to the result because without the right TA or FA we can't get the profit that we will wanted. Different people uses different methods and strategies, if we have an extra money paying for a tutorial is good too.
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April 03, 2023, 09:43:13 PM
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .
Trade only what you can lose is the old strategy that will apply in all things. I think old strategy can be a good thing for starters but in the long run we need to understand how the market will grow and how it will work, we don't need to focus too much to the result because without the right TA or FA we can't get the profit that we will wanted. Different people uses different methods and strategies, if we have an extra money paying for a tutorial is good too.
Old or not it would really be just the same.An analysis is an analysis and there's no old and new as long it does work then that what matter the most. This is why each one of us would really be thriving on learning

up things as much as we could.We do have technicals and we do have fundamentals which could make use of or would be able to apply whenever we do decide on making up some trading decisions.

This is why we do lots of trial and errors when it comes to our strategy on a specific market condition.If it doesnt work then we would find for another one and
the cycle continues and so forth.

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April 04, 2023, 04:11:05 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
It's crucial to keep up with the ever-changing financial market and be adaptable to new trends. But, that doesn't mean we should completely toss out old trading strategies. We should save 'em in the archives and analyze why they ain't as effective anymore. By doing this, we can figure out the key principles or components that can still be used in a new context. Think of old strategies as a foundation for success, but we gotta give them a revamp for the current market. Keep in mind though, what worked in the past might not work in the present, so be flexible and open to change.
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OP, what you have said is more to be looked into. Old strategies are ok to use but you know as time goes on, new development and technology emanate which calls for upgrade. You upgrading means you discovering new more strategy but however discovering new strategy does not mean you neglecting your old  one you can combine both  then apply it to a trade which seems difficult for you or you use the knowledge gained from that old trading to make your way through the complexity of any trade you find yourself in.
The idea of studying a market trend is very much important as well as stated by a member while commenting on this topic that would give you a guideline on how to enter the market and also know the exact trading technique you will implore to scale through in that trade.
So In essence, no trading knowledge or idea is a waste. You can combine them in achieving a positive result while trading.
I think having better technology and better understanding of the market thanks to more detailed research, allows us to have a better trading strategies as well. However, something as old as "buy low, sell high" could still work as well.

You may not know when it will be at the bottom, or you won't know what is the top, but you would know something is down when you see it go from 68k to 16k, there is no reason not to buy it there, it's the ideal "buy low" situation. And same goes for when it is 100k in the next cycle, maybe it will go higher, but you just made more than x5 return, isn't that a reason to be happy about? Of course it is, and that's all we need in the end.

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Actually strategies work with the current position of the market and if the market shifts and the current strategy doesn't fit in again, the it is wise you get a new strategy that fits in but I also do think that it will be nice if old strategies aren't just thrown away if they stop working at that very moment because it would be more better to have some reminisce on the past strategies and possibly learning from them and even joining some old strategies together to get a working new strategy.

I don't throw my strategies away just because it stops working at a time and I prefer to have some collection of the because it helps me make some wise decision in the future while trading.

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Actually strategies work with the current position of the market and if the market shifts and the current strategy doesn't fit in again, the it is wise you get a new strategy that fits in but I also do think that it will be nice if old strategies aren't just thrown away if they stop working at that very moment because it would be more better to have some reminisce on the past strategies and possibly learning from them and even joining some old strategies together to get a working new strategy.

I don't throw my strategies away just because it stops working at a time and I prefer to have some collection of the because it helps me make some wise decision in the future while trading.
Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
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April 06, 2023, 08:23:27 AM
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Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
analysis.

I agree with your point, Many rules of the past come in handy for a while, which we often forget that all our past and present rules work together. But I can say that a lot of previous thinking helps to generate new ideas that lead to all kinds of new thinking and problem solving. As every trader goes through a learning curve, it can be said that the past and present combine to produce a result. Finally, we can say that we will use all the technical things of the past that will be useful to us, and on the contrary, it is better to keep away those that will not be useful to us.

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April 09, 2023, 03:09:10 AM
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For me there are no old strategies, because currently the same ones exist but they are called other names, the market has always been the same, with the same things, with the same traps, traders and investors have more analysis tools and with everything that the same strategies can continue to be applied, this is something that does not change, since 1800 things have remained the same, a market is affected by the fundamentals, the same for that time, all the things that are considered have the same impact Currently, for me there are no old strategies.

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April 09, 2023, 05:55:08 AM
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Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
analysis.

I agree with your point, Many rules of the past come in handy for a while, which we often forget that all our past and present rules work together. But I can say that a lot of previous thinking helps to generate new ideas that lead to all kinds of new thinking and problem solving. As every trader goes through a learning curve, it can be said that the past and present combine to produce a result. Finally, we can say that we will use all the technical things of the past that will be useful to us, and on the contrary, it is better to keep away those that will not be useful to us.

the old or the new trading strategy actually won't be much different. whatever we used in the past will give us experience that we can use for our current trades. using a new trading strategy that may be the development of an old strategy.
those who are more active in trading know how they will use the right trading strategy and they use it the most. each trader has their own way.



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April 09, 2023, 06:28:22 AM
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this is just my opinion, I think this strategy will probably be useful in the future because the market is like a recurring obstacle course, so if you have a different path you can try another strategy, then when you return to the old path then the strategy will work again .
if it is exactly the same as what you tell,market conditions will continue to repeatedly rise and fall, but will continue to rise in the long term.
Constantly changing strategies based on market trends. Any old strategies can be effective in this case. Since Bitcoin is volatile cryptocurrency. Therefore, it is natural that the situation will change at the same time also the different strategies will change. A trader's main objective is to earn profit from the market. The way in which he can perform this task is suitable for him. It doesn't matter whether the trading strategy is old or new. Any strategy can be useful at any time.

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April 09, 2023, 07:16:24 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

That's an interesting question I haven't really thought about. Financial markets are very dynamic and fast changing, if there is a profitable trading strategy we will see many different traders copying it until it becomes less profitable and traders move on. That's why it's always important to check our own strategies regularly and see if market conditions changed and we are losing money. With that in mind old strategies could become profitable if they are abandoned by all traders again. The thing with my trading strategies is that I don't really have a fixed one, I use a wide range of technical indicators to get trading signals. And these indicators I switch from time to time depending on the current market situation. In bear markets where prices are moving much faster I tend to use mostly short term indicators, and during bull markets I focus more on longterm trend analysis. Maybe now with the rise of AI we can have a program that constantly evaluates all our past strategies and ranks them based on profitability.
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April 09, 2023, 07:50:56 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
In my opinion, old trading strategies shouldn't be discarded, we never know what will happen in the future. I used to have a strategy that worked in the past but then stopped working, I kept it aside, developed a new and however I discovered that after some months, this same old abandoned strategy was put in use and made me some good bucks. I think different strategies worked in different market condition. So basically, what I did was to  evaluate why the strategy did not work in the past and I noticed there were some underlying issues or flaws that need to be addressed, I fixed it and reapplied it. As a trader be open or be fluid and be ready to adapt to the market as changes happen. Old strategies are gold and shouldn't be thrown out the window.

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The question of if or if not an old trading strategy can work again depends on if the strategy is outdated or not, not whether it is old.

If the strategy is outdated due to a better, more accurate strategy existing or because the strategy does not work for modern times, then obviously it is better to avoid it and go with something better. But again, in order to find that out you have to understand the fundamental workings of said strategy. Some of them are completely timeless while others have gone completely extinct since the age of the internet.

But this topic has gotten me thinking...I would love to go through some ancient trading strategies, perhaps I can find resurrect a hidden gem?
Sometimes, being old is also associated with being outdated. But yes, I also believe that it’s not how old the strategy is, as long as it’s still functional and not outdated, it can still be a perfect strategy to use. But if in case the strategy is already outdated and not being updated or level up, there’s really chances that it will never work again. Also you have to evaluate and retest too if it will not gonna work anymore before abandoning it.

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I agree about testing it again, this would give you an idea how it is nowadays and if it works again or not. Sometimes when you are on a bull period, some strategies work amazingly, sure everyone is making money during that time but some strategies make so much more than everyone else and people get rich thanks to that in a few months during bull period.

However, when the bear hits then suddenly they start to lose money or just simply not make anything and they shelf that strategy until the next bull run comes along again. So when the next bull comes, they can go back to that old strategy again and make profit using that all over again as well, so they start to work properly.
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Sometimes, being old is also associated with being outdated. But yes, I also believe that it’s not how old the strategy is, as long as it’s still functional and not outdated, it can still be a perfect strategy to use. But if in case the strategy is already outdated and not being updated or level up, there’s really chances that it will never work again. Also you have to evaluate and retest too if it will not gonna work anymore before abandoning it.

I believe that each strategy, no matter new or old, should be adapted to each trader individually. Everything new is well-forgotten old, so we can sometimes take something useful from old strategies. Any strategy needs to be tested, without this we will not be able to find out how good it can be for us.

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April 10, 2023, 10:05:03 AM
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The question of if or if not an old trading strategy can work again depends on if the strategy is outdated or not, not whether it is old.

If the strategy is outdated due to a better, more accurate strategy existing or because the strategy does not work for modern times, then obviously it is better to avoid it and go with something better. But again, in order to find that out you have to understand the fundamental workings of said strategy. Some of them are completely timeless while others have gone completely extinct since the age of the internet.

But this topic has gotten me thinking...I would love to go through some ancient trading strategies, perhaps I can find resurrect a hidden gem?
Sometimes, being old is also associated with being outdated. But yes, I also believe that it’s not how old the strategy is, as long as it’s still functional and not outdated, it can still be a perfect strategy to use. But if in case the strategy is already outdated and not being updated or level up, there’s really chances that it will never work again. Also you have to evaluate and retest too if it will not gonna work anymore before abandoning it.
True, even though the strategy can be said to be old, if it's still relevant, I don't think it's a problem,
we judge strategy from a functional standpoint and that's the way it should be,
besides that it's not easy to find a strategy that suits us.
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!


Yes exactly single strategy may not always work and if one knows how to use such strategies and when to use will easily get profit out of it. We hear about strategies from longer time and i may not seen that some of these strategy fails to work but the main thing which matters is that a person should have knowledge about the proper time to use it.

It does not refer to the fact that for success new strategies will arise but it means that you will use the old strategies but in different time for different coins. No one can disregard the old strategies because these all are in use and no one can disregard the benefit of using these strategies.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 10, 2023, 11:15:09 AM
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Sometimes, being old is also associated with being outdated. But yes, I also believe that it’s not how old the strategy is, as long as it’s still functional and not outdated, it can still be a perfect strategy to use. But if in case the strategy is already outdated and not being updated or level up, there’s really chances that it will never work again. Also you have to evaluate and retest too if it will not gonna work anymore before abandoning it.

I believe that each strategy, no matter new or old, should be adapted to each trader individually. Everything new is well-forgotten old, so we can sometimes take something useful from old strategies. Any strategy needs to be tested, without this we will not be able to find out how good it can be for us.
And it should be evaluated as well in order to know if that is effective or if it needs to upgrade. But for me, it was good for us traders to develop a new strategy that is also applicable to the current market situation as we know that not all strategies will work in all conditions, some are less effective and some are totally not. And it means that some of our old strategies will still be working but can't ignore the possibility that is was not effective than before.

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April 10, 2023, 12:18:54 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market is constantly changing. For 3 years, I have modified the trading strategy many times to suit the current realities. What worked in 2018 did not work at all in 2021, and so on. And I don’t even want to talk about the change in trend, the change of bulls to bears and vice versa. It's all about the markets themselves. It's no secret that exchanges monitor the actions of traders, and if they notice some patterns that a trader very often successfully uses in his strategies, then they try to fix it. I have noticed this many times. Although, why be surprised, because exchanges are a kind of casino that always plays against its client. Therefore, it is not beneficial for them that someone finds the right ways to extract money. They will stop this in every possible way and reconfigure the bots so that your working methods are the least effective.

Therefore, if you want to remain a successful trader on exchanges, you constantly need to refine and modify your strategy to the current market realities.
I was thinking it is our approach to the market that needs to be modified, because it is the same strategy traders have maintained over the years. The candle sticks are still the same, indicators as well hasn't changed, Sometimes it could be that traders tend to forget how to use the strategy the built in the past and as a result build new ones and discard the former.
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market is constantly changing. For 3 years, I have modified the trading strategy many times to suit the current realities. What worked in 2018 did not work at all in 2021, and so on. And I don’t even want to talk about the change in trend, the change of bulls to bears and vice versa. It's all about the markets themselves. It's no secret that exchanges monitor the actions of traders, and if they notice some patterns that a trader very often successfully uses in his strategies, then they try to fix it. I have noticed this many times. Although, why be surprised, because exchanges are a kind of casino that always plays against its client. Therefore, it is not beneficial for them that someone finds the right ways to extract money. They will stop this in every possible way and reconfigure the bots so that your working methods are the least effective.

Therefore, if you want to remain a successful trader on exchanges, you constantly need to refine and modify your strategy to the current market realities.
I was thinking it is our approach to the market that needs to be modified, because it is the same strategy traders have maintained over the years. The candle sticks are still the same, indicators as well hasn't changed, Sometimes it could be that traders tend to forget how to use the strategy the built in the past and as a result build new ones and discard the former.
old strategy in the world of trading is of course the same as other new strategy strategies,
because indeed indicators, technical analysis, fundamentals can be done in ways that are comfortable for you,
you don't have to feel that the old strategy will be different, if you are not confident then your trading will not be will feel comfortable,
because if you are comfortable with the strategy that you have of course profits will come.

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April 12, 2023, 06:44:57 PM
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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?
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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?


Are there any new strategies? All the new strategies I've seen are essentially old strategies with a new name. Maybe there are some small improvements, but nothing more than that. The old strategies are described in textbooks and are already owned by the community. Is it worth buying a candy wrapper? Here everyone decides for himself
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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?

It is not sometimes good to totally dismiss the
Old strategy you used before  that worked for you,because it might be very helpful in the future or present.To me,whatever strategy that worked for me before,I dont throw them away or forget them,I try them with the present trading situation,if it works,I use it,if it doesn't,I  try to consult my colleagues,because deriving a strategy by yourself can sometimes seem difficult,it's called update,when you are updated on the strategy that is currently working,you switch to it for it to work for you as well.
Most persons will dismiss their old strategy and switch to the latest ones they are using,but sometimes the old strategise are more effective and better than the new ones
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Since the market changes everytime and we can not always stick to the same strategy over and over again, we need to make sure that we work from our current or old strategies so that we can make some adjustments according to the current market movement so that we can keep using it to make some good profits from the market. Old strategy can be useful we that are rebranded to a way that it will be able to serve and give current guesses about the current market movement.
It is good we work on our strategies debugging them maybe they can still serve us we'll.









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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?

It is not sometimes good to totally dismiss the
Old strategy you used before  that worked for you,because it might be very helpful in the future or present.To me,whatever strategy that worked for me before,I dont throw them away or forget them,I try them with the present trading situation,if it works,I use it,if it doesn't,I  try to consult my colleagues,because deriving a strategy by yourself can sometimes seem difficult,it's called update,when you are updated on the strategy that is currently working,you switch to it for it to work for you as well.
Most persons will dismiss their old strategy and switch to the latest ones they are using,but sometimes the old strategise are more effective and better than the new ones

basically I just use the old strategy where we often make transactions so we understand the characteristics of the strategy I use. so never change strategy but rather self-development because over time we have trading intuition. trading in my opinion is our communication with the market according to our own point of view. even though using the same strategy, but because everyone has a different point of view, the final result will be different too

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April 14, 2023, 05:04:48 AM
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... trading in my opinion is our communication with the market according to our own point of view. even though using the same strategy, but because everyone has a different point of view, the final result will be different too

I agree with you, 2 people use the same method, same strategy, and same currency pair to trade, but the results will not be the same. Trading successfully doesn't just depend on the use of old or new strategies, but more importantly, it depends on the way they are used as well as the knowledge and experiences of the individual traders. Old nor new strategies are considered to me, whatever suits me and makes a profit is the one I will use.

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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?

It is not sometimes good to totally dismiss the
Old strategy you used before  that worked for you,because it might be very helpful in the future or present.To me,whatever strategy that worked for me before,I dont throw them away or forget them,I try them with the present trading situation,if it works,I use it,if it doesn't,I  try to consult my colleagues,because deriving a strategy by yourself can sometimes seem difficult,it's called update,when you are updated on the strategy that is currently working,you switch to it for it to work for you as well.
Most persons will dismiss their old strategy and switch to the latest ones they are using,but sometimes the old strategise are more effective and better than the new ones

All I know is that the market changes and for us to keep using the same strategy over and over again, we need to keep adjusting our strategy to fit in to the current market situation. We should be responsible for making sure that our strategies conform to the market structure so as to trade the market in the right way that will enable us to make profits. We need to ensure we are prepared as a trader to utilize our tools to make sure that we get the best from the market since our aim is to make profits.









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April 14, 2023, 10:23:58 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
First thought that came to my mind while reading was, what are the old strategies we are talking about here?
Because since I started buying and selling crypto since 2016, I've not heard of any other strategy aside from DCA..

And to answer your question, if as a trader which strategies that help me win my trades, and along the line, I discovered a new strategy that is really working, then I simply would leave the old strategy somewhere in my head where I can easily recall it, just incase, the new strategy stopped working, it's as Simple as that.

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April 16, 2023, 08:59:43 PM
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Because there is one truth, if it will go up, then it should show it will go up, obviously some shocking news could change that in a minute, but unless that happens it should be as obvious as it gets most of the time.

It is technically good, but fundamentally negative then the technical will fail. I understand this since I started trading precisely in 2015. So basically at the moment there are only two strategies that apply in the trading market. That is technical and fundamental and still plus mental management. That combination is an old way that I still use today. Although it does need adjustment to current market conditions. But indeed everyone has their own way that is adapted to comfort and that is what differentiates.

Strategies won't last and will not exist until now if it isn't effective. It only depends on how we apply it and how we deal with the volatility of the market. Both technical and fundamental analyses are needed for us to make concrete decisions when trading. I think the best strategy or edge that we can have when trading is knowledge of what we are doing and managing the risks. Lack of knowledge especially about the basics will surely lead us to losses despite applying the most recent or latest strategies that we know.
Well, there is something that many do not know here, but when you read books you realize that the commercial strategies are the same that were applied many years ago, only now things are on another level because first the tools that are there are much more advanced than in the 1800s,but basically the market always moves under the same criteria:

1.-Fundamentals.
2.-Institutions, Whales.
3--Emotions

I think that no more things come from there, and as things are so common with traders, each one gives a strategy that can be baptized with his name, but the old strategies are applicable to the entire market.

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Trading approaches that were profitable in the past may no longer be effective in the future. When considering a strategy shift, it's critical to analyze previous tactics and decide whether to dismiss them entirely or keep them in mind for the future. While a new strategy may be operating well, an old one may become useful again in the future. It is critical to remain adaptable and open to modifying techniques as needed, while still recognizing the potential usefulness of previous approaches. Finally, the most effective approach is one that is adaptable to changing market conditions. Willing to learn some new strategies, any tips?
Just keep on trend and see if you can also adapt those trends.

With that, you'll get to have some advantage by knowing what are on the trends because that's reflecting on the market. Knowing such will give you the idea on what coins to trade.

But with combination of market knowledge and strategies, you'll get better results by applying all that you know.

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Since the market changes everytime and we can not always stick to the same strategy over and over again, we need to make sure that we work from our current or old strategies so that we can make some adjustments according to the current market movement so that we can keep using it to make some good profits from the market. Old strategy can be useful we that are rebranded to a way that it will be able to serve and give current guesses about the current market movement.
It is good we work on our strategies debugging them maybe they can still serve us we'll.
I think ive seen some new strategies or maybe youve seen it. I can drop here the link to look at yourself and help others learning new techniques in trading.

https://www.investopedia.com/ - it is online resource for investors and traders, providing tutorials on a wide range of trading topics, including new strategies

https://www.tradingview.com/ - a social network for traders and investors, offering also wide range of charting tools and trading ideas, The platform that allows traders to share and collaborate on new trading strategies

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I've spoken on this topic before,but anytime I see the topic I feel like making post on it again.To my knowledge,I dont really think strategies becomes old,it all depends on the usage,some persons don't believe in old strategy,they feel as long as it has been used before,they think it won't work again,but to me,your knowledge about the strategy you used before is very important,if it doesn't seem to work at the moment you wanted to use it,save it in your memory,because if it isn't useful now,it will always be useful tomorrow,that is why different strategies are adviced to have in order to be able to be abreast with the the trading movements.When it needs you to switch strategy,you make that possible with the other strategise you have.
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.

Old strategies added by recent strategy will work better especially if we know how to deal with the market. There's no specific strategy that will work all the time but things will depend on how we apply them effectively. Old strategies aren't actually old, they were just innovated and improved to work better in the current market situation that we have. Applying and trying out new techniques is also part of a trader's learning and growth.
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.

Old strategies added by recent strategy will work better especially if we know how to deal with the market. There's no specific strategy that will work all the time but things will depend on how we apply them effectively. Old strategies aren't actually old, they were just innovated and improved to work better in the current market situation that we have. Applying and trying out new techniques is also part of a trader's learning and growth.
There's no such thing about being old or new because it would really be just the same on sharing up on the same purpose which is to make some analysis out of it.The thing on here is that we do really continue

to become more better as the time goes by on which you would be generating new which would be adding up into those previous strategies that you do have before.Its up to you on which
one you would be using and making as long it would really be that relevant towards your trading and something that benefits you out then this is what matter the most.
Continue to learn up and continue to progress no matter how many strategies would be making out and generated.

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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.

Old strategies added by recent strategy will work better especially if we know how to deal with the market. There's no specific strategy that will work all the time but things will depend on how we apply them effectively. Old strategies aren't actually old, they were just innovated and improved to work better in the current market situation that we have. Applying and trying out new techniques is also part of a trader's learning and growth.

Agree since as long as you know how the market moves, you can use different strategies regardless of whether it is an old or new ones. The overall market position would determine what suits to be the best strategy to be employed. No single strategy works all the time so we should be flexible enough to adapt on the changes on the market so we can make our trading be aligned more to success. Explore more techniques to see what works well in different market situation since at the end your experience in these would be a great help to be successful.
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.
Basically when the market is similar to that old time. If X strategy works when Y happens, then when Y happens again in the future that could mean X can happen as well. This is why I believe that the best thing to do right now would be something that could benefit you the most, it could help you make as much profit as you could.

It is going to take a while before we could see that strategy work again, but if you check the market and check the strategy that works the best, and note that down then you can use it later when you see the market similar. Check the chart, see what worked and save it for later and you can compare all the notes you have taken and see if current time is similar to any of the past and if it is then you can try the strategy again.

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OP, what you have said is more to be looked into. Old strategies are ok to use but you know as time goes on, new development and technology emanate which calls for upgrade. You upgrading means you discovering new more strategy but however discovering new strategy does not mean you neglecting your old  one you can combine both  then apply it to a trade which seems difficult for you or you use the knowledge gained from that old trading to make your way through the complexity of any trade you find yourself in.
The idea of studying a market trend is very much important as well as stated by a member while commenting on this topic that would give you a guideline on how to enter the market and also know the exact trading technique you will implore to scale through in that trade.
So In essence, no trading knowledge or idea is a waste. You can combine them in achieving a positive result while trading.
I think having better technology and better understanding of the market thanks to more detailed research, allows us to have a better trading strategies as well. However, something as old as "buy low, sell high" could still work as well.

You may not know when it will be at the bottom, or you won't know what is the top, but you would know something is down when you see it go from 68k to 16k, there is no reason not to buy it there, it's the ideal "buy low" situation. And same goes for when it is 100k in the next cycle, maybe it will go higher, but you just made more than x5 return, isn't that a reason to be happy about? Of course it is, and that's all we need in the end.

I think that for this you have to start from the basics, any analysis that is done based on a particular exchange is as similar as entering a casino to do gambling, but why? It is simple, the volume in crypto or at least in btc is not Consolidated, and that is something that does not mean that the analysis is not completely reliable or safe, nor with such efficiency,because there is data that escapes and is necessary,for me In particular,I know that the volume is the reading of the entire history of any currency or action, which is why more importance should be given to it,rather than to the same shape or going to the chartist plane.

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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.

Old strategies could still be useful as a technique to this current days. However, there's a time it won't be applicable to any situation. Strategies could be use as basis for your decision making in calls in the market but we all know in the long period of time there's always new trends and also new strategies. The best way for you is to have your own strategies that suit for your calls.

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April 23, 2023, 03:07:15 AM
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I am not a professional trader. Sometimes I do it for fun to see how it goes. I don't think all strategies work all the time. The strategy work and depend on your position and market moves. The same strategy cannot work for everyone. Your and others' positions are not the same. Sometimes, the same strategy doesn't work for everyone even though we are in the same market move. Don't blindly trust any strategies. The market always doesn't follow the same pattern.

If you use any strategy, don't follow them all the time. Make your own decision when you need to. About Old Strategies, Sometimes they may work. If you are experienced with the old strategy or whatever you say. You won't forget them. You cannot forget them (Even if you try). A Monkey never forgets how to claim trees, even if it gets older and older.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

What I do about the strategies that I need to change when it becomes unsuited for certain market conditions is that I only modify them a bit with the new good ones that I encounter I simply dissect all strategies currently available at my convenience and rebuild myself a new one combining good parts from each strategy while keeping aside the other parts in reserve so I can pull out the appropriate ones depending on the situation. And for the parts that really doesn't suit my trading style or my preferences, I just discard them to not distract myself from my current strategy. It is vital for a trader to stick to his trading strategies and plans and not get distracted with other strategies so as to avoid making clouded decisions that can eventually lead to tons of losses or missed profits.

There are several strategies that I have been keeping and still are using right now but would take forever to mention then explain since I don't just do one type of trading. So, I'll just talk about the simplest one that worked wonders for me ever since. Which is trading and holding long term on spot. How my strategy here works is buying small amounts of the coins that are suited for my standard as an investor whenever there are available funds, setting aside more funds for DCA (just in case the need for it arises), not going against the flow of the market, not getting swayed by the overexaggerated hype and lastly, sticking to my trading plan no matter what (you should at least have that much confidence in the strategy you have built before even using it) unless some unexpected REASONABLE situation arises that requires you to act otherwise.

And yes, some strategies from the past may work for certain situations in the future (at least a few parts of it if not the whole strategy) and I have proven it by experience on several occasions.

Hope this helps, good luck op.
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Trading strategies never change you can apply your old strategies it's depend on how you use it. The most important thing is to make sure that gain profit in that strategy. And be sure to keep your money in the best way on how you trade.
 You can use old trading strategies anytime you want and you can observe how it works for you.
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Trading strategies never change you can apply your old strategies it's depend on how you use it. The most important thing is to make sure that gain profit in that strategy. And be sure to keep your money in the best way on how you trade.
 You can use old trading strategies anytime you want and you can observe how it works for you.
It won't change if we will never make any changes but it's important to modify or adjust it according on what the market is feeling currently because crypto market does not stay in one place but it keeps on moving in different directions. It's confusing but this makes the game exciting at the same time.

It makes the weak getting removed due to losses but only the strong and knowledgeable one remains. There is nothing wrong in using old strategy as long as it is still working fine or it can provide us a regular income but if not, we may need to tweak it or replace it with a new one, that can keep up with the current wave of the market.
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The old trading speed can only be updated with the strategy. I have been able to make a profit by sticking to the same strategy for years. Especially if you have a good grasp of the dynamics of the cryptocurrency markets, it may not be necessary to convey your strategy. Of course you need to have some exceptional criteria plan B. The trading strategy that has been valid for many years is Scalping for me. The fastest, additional active trading strategy in my opinion. I don't wait for any trend to emerge or break.

This applies to trading rules. Be it cryptocurrencies or stocks.  We must not forget that this valuable trading foundation is hidden in ancient strategies and each type of transaction has its own advantages.

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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.
The moment a strategy fail, it can only say of the fact that it's bad, no good strategy for trading will fail now or later. Another good thing about good strategy is that it works with all asset you trade them with, it will never be selective. The success rate of different asset can differ, it will manage to deliver a good result. To get such good strategy may take time, it takes reading, learning and practices for years. More so, the strategy has to be simple and trade the direction of the trend, not the kind that will look like too perfect to trade the direction and the opposite.
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There is nothing wrong in using old strategy as long as it is still working fine or it can provide us a regular income but if not, we may need to tweak it or replace it with a new one, that can keep up with the current wave of the market.
I don't know exactly what the OP and guys old strategy meant, it's a bit confusing. Strategies may change depending on market trends and conditions. The strategy can be adapted to these two circumstances so that success can get maximum profits and can also minimize losses. Frequently used strategies that also pay off can always be tried, but in the end I just think it really depends on each trader's trading plan.

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May 07, 2023, 07:35:21 PM
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There isn't a one stratefy to rule them all. If you want to be profitable you always have to adapt according to the market conditions!
but there are also times when old strategies work again, although at some point you'll have to revise your strategy again while adding the newer ones. as you've have said that it depends on the market conditions, and i still believe that some old patterns are still useful in todays trading style. still for one to become a seasoned trader, you still need to experience more trading patterns or should i say it is the culmination of your accumulated experience in trading.
Basically when the market is similar to that old time. If X strategy works when Y happens, then when Y happens again in the future that could mean X can happen as well. This is why I believe that the best thing to do right now would be something that could benefit you the most, it could help you make as much profit as you could.

It is going to take a while before we could see that strategy work again, but if you check the market and check the strategy that works the best, and note that down then you can use it later when you see the market similar. Check the chart, see what worked and save it for later and you can compare all the notes you have taken and see if current time is similar to any of the past and if it is then you can try the strategy again.

Well here things can be very similar,it is Said that the market is based on patterns, the only thing is that and I do not believe in patterns or in chartist figures, but I can say that the market can give us many opportunities and that all of you are strategies that were used in the stock market in 1800-1900, and still work. The most important thing is that these Strategies apply to the Crypto Market and it is Incredible, but the maturity of a market can be felt as time Passes and passes and the Main facets such as accumulation and distribution are fulfilled.

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Strategy is strategy there's no old or new what matters in trading is that the best patterns that suits your trading. You can only acquire more skills on how to trade effectively and be able to manage any funds you are trading with, what if you learn a new strategy thinking it will help you foster and sharpen your trading experience and it happens they didn't work as you think would you keep using or you also applied the old ones to start trading with it?
No, because I believe that trading doesn't only required a specific trading strategy rather a combination of knowledge to excel in the field of trading, so even though I acquired new skills I will apply them all to have an excellent results.


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The old strategy can still be used just occasionally, because you know that its value in the market is also changing. So, obviously we can't use or do only one strategy in trading activity.

       That's why here is how we can think of the next step to take so that we can make money, that's why it's not a simple matter to carry out trading activity because there's a lot to consider here to be honest.



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Strategy is strategy there's no old or new what matters in trading is that the best patterns that suits your trading. You can only acquire more skills on how to trade effectively and be able to manage any funds you are trading with, what if you learn a new strategy thinking it will help you foster and sharpen your trading experience and it happens they didn't work as you think would you keep using or you also applied the old ones to start trading with it?
No, because I believe that trading doesn't only required a specific trading strategy rather a combination of knowledge to excel in the field of trading, so even though I acquired new skills I will apply them all to have an excellent results.
Of course, old techniques outperform freshly deployed ones. There's nothing wrong with using old tactics as long as they work on trading charts. Knowing that we acquire knowledge and adjust to new things on a daily basis, learning never stops. The market will not reward us unless we plan ahead of time and devise a smart trading strategy. Every trader has a different trading strategy; we need to comprehend the fundamentals of trading and how to develop methods that fit our trading pattern. Trading with a presentable plan is not usually the only attribute that a trader requires; rather, complicated and diverse information is required to supplement a simple trading method. .

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