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April 03, 2023, 10:18:33 AM
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Everyday in trading world, new strategies emergies and old strategies are still in use.
The adoption of new strategies are sometimes reformation of the old one. Despite the adoption of new strategies, the old one will still be there because it will still be working.
Old strategy will always work in future. The changes in the market requires change in strategy. Understanding these changes and apply them when needed at the monent will help your trading a lot.

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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

OP, what you have said is more to be looked into. Old strategies are ok to use but you know as time goes on, new development and technology emanate which calls for upgrade. You upgrading means you discovering new more strategy but however discovering new strategy does not mean you neglecting your old  one you can combine both  then apply it to a trade which seems difficult for you or you use the knowledge gained from that old trading to make your way through the complexity of any trade you find yourself in.
The idea of studying a market trend is very much important as well as stated by a member while commenting on this topic that would give you a guideline on how to enter the market and also know the exact trading technique you will implore to scale through in that trade.
So In essence, no trading knowledge or idea is a waste. You can combine them in achieving a positive result while trading.

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April 03, 2023, 03:52:08 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
If the surrounding situation is right compared to the strategy then yes definitely the old strategy can be useful in trading. But most of the time strategy has to be changed with time interval because world economy is not go through the same all the time or whole market condition is not same as it is not stable so strategy has to be changed with time. So I think it's never wise to sleep on a strategy, it's a smart trader's job to analyze the need over time or stay active.


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April 03, 2023, 04:15:57 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Trading doesn't have old strategies and new strategies, the fact is that when you are trading frequently you understand the factors that hinders you during the process, so when you have understand the loopholes that leads you into failure in trading and try to avoiding them it looks like you have a acquire new style or strategies of escaping lost in trading, the major thing we don't understand is that practice make perfect,  and its very obvious in trading.
Good point. In addition to that, you should adopt yourself in every new situation. That’s why the strategy always changes depending on the market condition, it means each one can be useful and effective in a short period and few conditions. In opinion, it is really essential to start with analyzing the market before trading. Also, reading cryptocurrency charts is important  too. Plus, it is always better to create your own strategies instead of following traders especially if you are able or capable to. Some newbies hire private experts in trading, and give them % of profits like 10-15% depending of the budget. Maybe that’s the easiest way to gain money with less effort in trading field.

Unfortunately, there is a plenty of beginners who make wrong decisions without even knowing the basics of trading. They losing money because of greediness and lack of knowledge. You should take your time by reading and learning this field before even starting. That’s how it works. Step by step until your reach your goal.
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April 03, 2023, 04:41:20 PM
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .

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April 03, 2023, 05:25:43 PM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
Definitely old strategy might work again in future, you can't be using one particular pattern forever, so whenever you are trading, you have to make sure you keep on trying new strategies, you don't just rely on just one strategy when trading, always go on  research to discover new ones and you can also try the once you have used before, they might endup working for you again, because you have once used a trading strategy those not mean you shouldn't try it again, but am not saying if you try it again it will work for you, it might not work for you after trying it.

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April 03, 2023, 06:05:10 PM
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .
Trade only what you can lose is the old strategy that will apply in all things. I think old strategy can be a good thing for starters but in the long run we need to understand how the market will grow and how it will work, we don't need to focus too much to the result because without the right TA or FA we can't get the profit that we will wanted. Different people uses different methods and strategies, if we have an extra money paying for a tutorial is good too.
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April 03, 2023, 09:43:13 PM
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Strategy works on fixed things. But to be honest trading is not predictable. Now if you here apply the same old tricks, then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. No strategy works the second time, and trading is the real life example for this. You should be adaptive, that is, you should trade according to the market conditions. If you overlook the market stats and keep on trading usually, then the chances of getting losses will increase. Trade cautiously as hard earned money is at stake. At last trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. This can be the best and safest strategy .
Trade only what you can lose is the old strategy that will apply in all things. I think old strategy can be a good thing for starters but in the long run we need to understand how the market will grow and how it will work, we don't need to focus too much to the result because without the right TA or FA we can't get the profit that we will wanted. Different people uses different methods and strategies, if we have an extra money paying for a tutorial is good too.
Old or not it would really be just the same.An analysis is an analysis and there's no old and new as long it does work then that what matter the most. This is why each one of us would really be thriving on learning

up things as much as we could.We do have technicals and we do have fundamentals which could make use of or would be able to apply whenever we do decide on making up some trading decisions.

This is why we do lots of trial and errors when it comes to our strategy on a specific market condition.If it doesnt work then we would find for another one and
the cycle continues and so forth.
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April 04, 2023, 04:11:05 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
It's crucial to keep up with the ever-changing financial market and be adaptable to new trends. But, that doesn't mean we should completely toss out old trading strategies. We should save 'em in the archives and analyze why they ain't as effective anymore. By doing this, we can figure out the key principles or components that can still be used in a new context. Think of old strategies as a foundation for success, but we gotta give them a revamp for the current market. Keep in mind though, what worked in the past might not work in the present, so be flexible and open to change.
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April 04, 2023, 08:39:43 PM
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OP, what you have said is more to be looked into. Old strategies are ok to use but you know as time goes on, new development and technology emanate which calls for upgrade. You upgrading means you discovering new more strategy but however discovering new strategy does not mean you neglecting your old  one you can combine both  then apply it to a trade which seems difficult for you or you use the knowledge gained from that old trading to make your way through the complexity of any trade you find yourself in.
The idea of studying a market trend is very much important as well as stated by a member while commenting on this topic that would give you a guideline on how to enter the market and also know the exact trading technique you will implore to scale through in that trade.
So In essence, no trading knowledge or idea is a waste. You can combine them in achieving a positive result while trading.
I think having better technology and better understanding of the market thanks to more detailed research, allows us to have a better trading strategies as well. However, something as old as "buy low, sell high" could still work as well.

You may not know when it will be at the bottom, or you won't know what is the top, but you would know something is down when you see it go from 68k to 16k, there is no reason not to buy it there, it's the ideal "buy low" situation. And same goes for when it is 100k in the next cycle, maybe it will go higher, but you just made more than x5 return, isn't that a reason to be happy about? Of course it is, and that's all we need in the end.

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April 05, 2023, 01:39:08 AM
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Actually strategies work with the current position of the market and if the market shifts and the current strategy doesn't fit in again, the it is wise you get a new strategy that fits in but I also do think that it will be nice if old strategies aren't just thrown away if they stop working at that very moment because it would be more better to have some reminisce on the past strategies and possibly learning from them and even joining some old strategies together to get a working new strategy.

I don't throw my strategies away just because it stops working at a time and I prefer to have some collection of the because it helps me make some wise decision in the future while trading.

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April 05, 2023, 11:59:05 PM
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Actually strategies work with the current position of the market and if the market shifts and the current strategy doesn't fit in again, the it is wise you get a new strategy that fits in but I also do think that it will be nice if old strategies aren't just thrown away if they stop working at that very moment because it would be more better to have some reminisce on the past strategies and possibly learning from them and even joining some old strategies together to get a working new strategy.

I don't throw my strategies away just because it stops working at a time and I prefer to have some collection of the because it helps me make some wise decision in the future while trading.
Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
analysis.

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April 06, 2023, 08:23:27 AM
 #113

Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
analysis.

I agree with your point, Many rules of the past come in handy for a while, which we often forget that all our past and present rules work together. But I can say that a lot of previous thinking helps to generate new ideas that lead to all kinds of new thinking and problem solving. As every trader goes through a learning curve, it can be said that the past and present combine to produce a result. Finally, we can say that we will use all the technical things of the past that will be useful to us, and on the contrary, it is better to keep away those that will not be useful to us.



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April 09, 2023, 03:09:10 AM
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For me there are no old strategies, because currently the same ones exist but they are called other names, the market has always been the same, with the same things, with the same traps, traders and investors have more analysis tools and with everything that the same strategies can continue to be applied, this is something that does not change, since 1800 things have remained the same, a market is affected by the fundamentals, the same for that time, all the things that are considered have the same impact Currently, for me there are no old strategies.

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April 09, 2023, 05:55:08 AM
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Just like on what said above which old or new it would really work but we know that technicals arent that enough or a solid thing for you to rely on when we do make out trades.
We do keep on formulating on what are the ways we could be able to take advantage. Does it work all the time? No its not.This is why we do keep on formulating strategies
basing up on the market condition that we are really that facing on. Make use of indicators which do works for you and dont depend on other peoples
analysis.

I agree with your point, Many rules of the past come in handy for a while, which we often forget that all our past and present rules work together. But I can say that a lot of previous thinking helps to generate new ideas that lead to all kinds of new thinking and problem solving. As every trader goes through a learning curve, it can be said that the past and present combine to produce a result. Finally, we can say that we will use all the technical things of the past that will be useful to us, and on the contrary, it is better to keep away those that will not be useful to us.

the old or the new trading strategy actually won't be much different. whatever we used in the past will give us experience that we can use for our current trades. using a new trading strategy that may be the development of an old strategy.
those who are more active in trading know how they will use the right trading strategy and they use it the most. each trader has their own way.



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April 09, 2023, 06:28:22 AM
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this is just my opinion, I think this strategy will probably be useful in the future because the market is like a recurring obstacle course, so if you have a different path you can try another strategy, then when you return to the old path then the strategy will work again .
if it is exactly the same as what you tell,market conditions will continue to repeatedly rise and fall, but will continue to rise in the long term.
Constantly changing strategies based on market trends. Any old strategies can be effective in this case. Since Bitcoin is volatile cryptocurrency. Therefore, it is natural that the situation will change at the same time also the different strategies will change. A trader's main objective is to earn profit from the market. The way in which he can perform this task is suitable for him. It doesn't matter whether the trading strategy is old or new. Any strategy can be useful at any time.

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April 09, 2023, 07:16:24 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

That's an interesting question I haven't really thought about. Financial markets are very dynamic and fast changing, if there is a profitable trading strategy we will see many different traders copying it until it becomes less profitable and traders move on. That's why it's always important to check our own strategies regularly and see if market conditions changed and we are losing money. With that in mind old strategies could become profitable if they are abandoned by all traders again. The thing with my trading strategies is that I don't really have a fixed one, I use a wide range of technical indicators to get trading signals. And these indicators I switch from time to time depending on the current market situation. In bear markets where prices are moving much faster I tend to use mostly short term indicators, and during bull markets I focus more on longterm trend analysis. Maybe now with the rise of AI we can have a program that constantly evaluates all our past strategies and ranks them based on profitability.
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April 09, 2023, 07:50:56 AM
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Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?
In my opinion, old trading strategies shouldn't be discarded, we never know what will happen in the future. I used to have a strategy that worked in the past but then stopped working, I kept it aside, developed a new and however I discovered that after some months, this same old abandoned strategy was put in use and made me some good bucks. I think different strategies worked in different market condition. So basically, what I did was to  evaluate why the strategy did not work in the past and I noticed there were some underlying issues or flaws that need to be addressed, I fixed it and reapplied it. As a trader be open or be fluid and be ready to adapt to the market as changes happen. Old strategies are gold and shouldn't be thrown out the window.

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April 09, 2023, 06:44:25 PM
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The question of if or if not an old trading strategy can work again depends on if the strategy is outdated or not, not whether it is old.

If the strategy is outdated due to a better, more accurate strategy existing or because the strategy does not work for modern times, then obviously it is better to avoid it and go with something better. But again, in order to find that out you have to understand the fundamental workings of said strategy. Some of them are completely timeless while others have gone completely extinct since the age of the internet.

But this topic has gotten me thinking...I would love to go through some ancient trading strategies, perhaps I can find resurrect a hidden gem?
Sometimes, being old is also associated with being outdated. But yes, I also believe that it’s not how old the strategy is, as long as it’s still functional and not outdated, it can still be a perfect strategy to use. But if in case the strategy is already outdated and not being updated or level up, there’s really chances that it will never work again. Also you have to evaluate and retest too if it will not gonna work anymore before abandoning it.

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April 10, 2023, 06:35:44 AM
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I agree about testing it again, this would give you an idea how it is nowadays and if it works again or not. Sometimes when you are on a bull period, some strategies work amazingly, sure everyone is making money during that time but some strategies make so much more than everyone else and people get rich thanks to that in a few months during bull period.

However, when the bear hits then suddenly they start to lose money or just simply not make anything and they shelf that strategy until the next bull run comes along again. So when the next bull comes, they can go back to that old strategy again and make profit using that all over again as well, so they start to work properly.
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