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March 23, 2023, 07:11:15 AM
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But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Did you know that as your bet on one, another people are betting on another on the same game which is different from yours, so what you lose is what some people take and they are going win, that is how it happens in blackjack and dice. Do not think because you use small amount you are winning and if you are using higher amount you are losing,this thinking the gambling sites are manipulating is wrong. I can not say because of that conclude that gambling sites are manipulating because it is most likely that people will have different mindset if gambling with small amount of money and if also gambling with high amount of money.

I love sport betting in addition to some casino games, can sport betting sites too manipulate like this? I do not think so. I noticed in the past when I was very addicted to sport betting, that if I use high amount of money that I do lose, but if I am using small amount of money to stake, that I do win. I was very surprised when my friend told me the same thing too. So do not think of it as manipulation, your mindset and the way you bet may be altered with increasing amount that you are using to bet.

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March 23, 2023, 07:30:44 AM
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Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

Players are bound to lose at all games in the long run.

After all, they are designed in such a way to trigger the dopamine rush once you win.

Cleverly exploiting human nature, only the handful of strong-willed individuals could resist.

But hey, business is still business.

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March 23, 2023, 07:41:49 AM
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Often happens including to me from several sites that I have played. I will say if the gambling site has set a pattern for players.
If you play with a small amount of capital but slowly the balance increases while playing and you also raise the bet, it is natural that you lose because it is their capital.
It is better if it is like that, that is, never winning when playing with large bets, it means that your account is not suitable for large bets and stop for a while.

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March 23, 2023, 07:50:21 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

How often are most of these times and how many casinos do you have this kind of results, you cannot generalize if it's only one casino and you have not done surveys for you to say that this is the case.
It should be consistent and it should be on many platforms and it includes the number of gamblers, just because you are losing you are questioning the results.

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March 23, 2023, 08:28:20 AM
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A reputable and trusted casino wouldn't scam you, it's just a matter of luck. Usually when you're gamble using higher amount than you willing to lose, you will get a pressure and it force you to chase winning. But when you gamble with small amount money, you have nothing to lose and just play it. I think when you get pressured, you will not use all of your skill since you're always think with your money.

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March 23, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
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I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not so sure about that. Casino sites use random number generators and provably fair algorithms to ensure that games are fair and unbiased. It's just a matter of luck and probability. But, I think the key is to understand that the odds are always against you in gambling. That's why it's important to be aware of the risks and to gamble responsibly. The best way to avoid losing big is to just stick to small bets. That way, even if you lose, it won't be a huge blow to your bankroll.

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March 23, 2023, 08:39:09 AM
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You're just assuming without concrete shreds of evidence to back up your claim, gamblers are like that accusing casinos of cheating when they are losing, and when they are winning they boast that they have uncovered a secret method or developed their own method to continue winning.
You have to get the fact instead of assuming that you are being cheated check out the fairness and reputation of the casino you're playing its a big factor that you need to check, check out other casinos if you're getting the same results, online casinos are booming online business because there are people winning and there are people enjoying the game, if they are cheating and there's no winner in all casinos platform people will lose their trust and instead play on physical casinos.

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March 23, 2023, 10:22:33 AM
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Casinos can cheat you but if it's a trusted casino, I don't think the casino will still cheat you because it's about their reputation. And you should not have to think about the fraud that casinos do because it will interfere with your gambling time and you will not be able to enjoy it. If you don't want to lose much money, don't bet a lot, that's the key. But many people don't care about this and think that using a lot of money can provide an opportunity to get big wins.

Besides that, I don't know what the algorithm of the casino is because I don't really know about the algorithm. It's possible that their algorithm is the same as any other casino and it's just our luck that it doesn't come at the right time.

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March 23, 2023, 10:24:54 AM
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I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to  give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.

And as what the majority says, very hard to come up with such proof.

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Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
It could be possible if you are gambling in an illegal casino but if you are in a reputable one, it’s hard to say they’re cheating simply because they won’t gain their reputation if they have been cheating ever since. Let’s just say you were never lucky that time, and those times you bet small amounts, the luck is all yours. Gambling outcome is always unpredictable, you will never know when you will lose or when you will win. But most of the time, it’s a loss since the house will always have an edge over us.

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There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.

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I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.
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First of all, you should only blame yourself for that loss. It was your responsibility. Not casinos, algorithm, bad weather, sleepless night and etc. Casinos dont need to cheat to get gamblers money. Gamblers will lose them anyway. Casinos earn from every bet gamblers made, no matter if gamblers lose or win. They get their tiny percent anyway. And they dont need to ruin their reputation by cheating you for $1k, if they can get a cent from every bet thousands of gamblers make daily in their casino.

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There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.
A simple fact is that all the popular sites always try to conduct their business honestly. Because they think a gambler is their assets. No matter who are small or big gambler. They know well that even a small gambler can do them great harm. So their vision is equal to everyone. But there are some sites that try to scam with their client, but it's different. Good sites cannot be compared to those sites. In this case my advice would be to discard the site it would be doubtful. But should research well whether he is doing something wrong or not.

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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Well maybe depends on which site you are playing. Since its possible that they could cheat their user and put something on script that can make their players lose in the long run. But sometimes its just a mistake of the player since they are been to greedy to bet larger amount and think about winning a huge money for that round. There are times that we are out of luck so its normal that sometimes we think negative about that situation and maybe we should learn from this next time we play.

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Casinos aren't cheating because gamblers also were found to be involved in many ways that could wrecked down a casino into bankruptcy by cheating on their website, so if you see dome casino website showing some kind of strictness is to guard against any infiltration of hack against their system wgich is now found common among gamblers today to always attempt cheating a casino, and if you suspect any casino also involved in cheating gamblers, then just make sure you avoid further deals in using the casino by going for another.


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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.
This does not make any casino a cheater because you can check its fairness as long as it made available to you by the casino you're playing, if that is the case then do not bet a big amount of money just increase your bet when you are in winning bets, it will take 100 of bets for you to prove your assumption and play on at least 10 casinos.
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In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
You did not mention the name of the casino so they can address your concern or assumption but why are playing in a casino where you cannot verify its fairness, maybe you need to take time and come back a week later and check if you're still getting the same results on that casino or check other casinos, other gamblers are lucky on one casino over the other, if you're not sure of the casino you're playing then go on other casinos.

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I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.
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I haven't experienced it before because I haven't tried gambling with a large amount of money before. And I'm not sure if your claim is correct or not but I think since your playing again the system they could be a way for them to do something like that but I bet any casino will be willing to do because if they are eventually caught that could be the end of their business.
As long as it's something that can be tempered with by the dev team then it's possible for them to do. I'm not saying that they do engage in such an act but to be on the safer side make sure you use little amount to wager since you always win everytime you place a bet with small amount. 

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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Technically we're always cheated by casinos (and we willingly agree to it though) with their house edge but the issue seems to be another thing here. I wouldn't call it an issue though, you just got unlucky simple as that. If you want to go nitty gritty about the details, small amounts of bets basically increase the number of games you can play, which also spreads out the chances of you winning and losing more compared to one big win. I mean, in cases of a 100 matches with a 50/50 chance, if you lost the first but won the rest, then that's good right? But what if you bet big and lost everything on the first one? It's simple logic like that. Wouldn't call it a cheat, just how it goes when it comes to luck.

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