Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?

[pawanjain]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It depends on which site you are gambling on and if that site is using provably fair algorithm where you can verify the output yourself.
If they are not doing it then there are chances that the site might be cheating you.
How did you lose all the $1k in just one day. At least you should have played with 25% of the amount and kept the rest for other days.
Sometimes it's just about the luck. It work one day and it might not on others.
With 25% amount you could have tried your luck on 4 days and go to know if the site is really cheating you or not.

[rhomelmabini]

I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.

That's my question too, it's not easy to spot or you wouldn't see anything at all. I think it's just a coincidence on the OP's side and not totally the fault at casinos, if you're gambling with game of chance then you would know it depends on the multiplier you're using or same thing.

[passwordnow]

Just stay betting with smaller amounts if you've been lucky with that. That's the strategy that you must do because you've noticed that whenever you bet big amounts, luck isn't with you. Yeah, maybe there's something to do with the algorithm and we can't do anything against it as we're playing against the house. So, if you're lucky enough playing with smaller amounts and that's giving you the win then there's no reason for you to change ways and it's the reason why it's best for you to just bet with smaller amounts and go with a mile of wins with it.

[Eureka_07]

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Be mindful that the algorithm was made intentionally to the casinos' advantage. We can only call them cheating if we have proved that they do. AFAIK, games does have server seeds which you can use to analyze if the game is fair or not.

[Rruchi man]

What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

As you lost to the algorithm, you will be surprised how many people won the algorithm and not just in little amounts but huge sums. Casino site algorithms are difficult to bet because your chances of winning against the house is always lesser than the chances of the algorithm beating you. Do not feel cheated because you have lost, maybe you should try other games or try to understand the game and study more about the game you play.

Blackjack which is the game you mentioned OP is based on skill, If you sharpen up your skills, maybe you will do better.

[nimogsm]

I think you have such thoughts only because you lost a good amount in one evening.Here, correctly, the topic says that you need to take into account the risk of management and be prepared to lose the amount.Gambling has a luck factor and that's it.You just have better luck next time.And casinos that have a reputation won't deal with problems for players because they won't come back to play again.

[Yatsan]

Point here is, winning will never be certain especially for games wherein luck is the baseline. Manage your bets in a way that won't hurt your pocket totally. Betting efficiently will save you from regrets. Also, keep in mind that this industry doesn't revolve around you alone. If you lose an amount big on your end, how sure are you that others are not? There's no cheating in this scenario; you're just unlucky and somewhat a hard bettor. Pushing your way to win will never be advisable 'coz it has a higher tendency to result into bigger losses. Sites are only cheating if no one really wins the game, also, you have the rights to move to another platform if this is the case than to wait for the platform itself to adjust and put things in favor on your end.

[CarnagexD]

They're not. Are they taking advantage of the gamblers putting so much money in their bets? Yes. We can't deny that gamblers have their behavioral patters in playing and casinos have learned using it at their advantage. Letting gamblers win temporiraly is nothing compared when gamblers start to put more bets hoping to win more.

I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to  give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.

Risks will always be there but luck won't. So I think the best way to be disciplined in playing is sticking in your budget and enjoy your game. If you find yourself losing games in a row, try not to continue playing irrationally just to get a return of your money.

[TopTort777]

Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.

[Johnyz]

Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.

They created the system for them to win, so what we can expect from the house?
If you don't want to lose money then don't gamble, because this is a purely based on luck so don't expect that much. I don't know why do you the site is cheating against us when if fact its your own choice to gamble not unless you are using unfamiliar site which I believe can be more prone to cheating and manipulation.

[goldkingcoiner]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Which online gambling casino exactly are you talking about? Because if its some small, unknown, shady casino with a questionable reputation, then perhaps yes. But if its a legitimate casino with a good reputation then I doubt they would cheat you like that. Its too obvious a cheat for such a big, established business to do. It would be financial suicide for them.

I think what happened is you got really unlucky and started connecting coincidences with things that are not necessarily true. Otherwise there would be more people noticing such things and more people would be complaining.

[virasisog]

I don't think you're being cheated because what you're facing is the real risk of gambling. Losing will always be a part of the gambling journey no matter how big or small your bet is. It's just that you can't expect to win over the house always. If you are experiencing losses every time you bet a huge amount, then try to change your strategy. There might be a more effective strategy that you can apply. Try to explore more but be sure to play at a reputable casino.

[panganib999]

Reputable casinos wouldn't resort to this type of one-upping for the very reason that they don't need to. The game is already stacked against the player and all they just had to do is operate it so why would they make the game even harder to win at and potentially destroy their reputation from their potential users and current customers right?

So in that regard, ask yourself, Am I playing in a reputable casino? Will the casino I play in really go so low as to cheat on its players to secure big bags despite the fact that the games they already have here are stacked against the player? If your answer is yes to the second question, time to avoid that gambling site and switch up for another.

[bittraffic]

I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games.  The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing. 

[Casdinyard]

I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games.  The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing. 

I think this has been a common looming suspicion every gambler experienced at least once or twice in their lives. I've been a part of it too, even went so far as to create two accounts in my old gambling site just to test my theory and compare results only to find out that I was indeed wrong because on some of the games I lost considerably, I won big on the other, and vice versa. So, does this mean that this is not something that the casinos could do? Absolutely not, I do think there are some shady ones out there that do this stuff under the gambler's noses. But you can bet your bottom dollar no reputable casino would do this, for the sole reason that this could lead to them driving their customers and patrons away, just like what the other guy said.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

There are several times I've felt exactly this way, and like you , it's after having lost some significant amount of money to casino games..

The assumptions that casino are some how cheating us could be true, but I wouldn't want to believe that it's every casino, for all I know, there are still some really good and reputable casinos out there with a very provably fair system, but where the problems is is that, every casino claim to have a provably fair system, it becomes really hard to separate the wheat from the chaff..

I think the solution to this is for one to find a casino he or she really trust, and stick to playing there, this is what I think.

[YOSHIE]

What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Well, cases like that are often experienced by most gamblers, I'm sure almost the average person experiences a case like what you are experiencing.

My bad experience. That happened in one of the slot games, when I bet my bonus I won, almost on average in every slot I played I experienced luck, however, when I make a large deposit and play in the same or a different slot, bad luck will strike, consecutive losses, strange. It seems I'm being watched and stalked by online casino dealers, they don't let me experience luck.

Yes, I believe that it is like a program Algorithm concept that has been programmed by casinos / individuals, they don't let us win. We really have to watch them off guard or fall asleep to re-bet after a big deposit within 2-3 days, to catch the luck.

[Fortify]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Surely in the scenario you've described, why would you not keep betting small - if you supposedly win off them, or just keep your betting pattern consistent. It's not like you have any control over the outcome of the game, you think that somehow controlling the bet amount means you can predict the outcomes. If you are betting bigger amounts and losing it is going to sting a lot more, so that becomes more memorable and your small bets become more cloudy. I think it's obscene to blow through $1,000 in a day on a website which tells you that the house has the advantage, it means that given a long enough time period they will take every penny of your money and they have done just that.

[goaldigger]

Cheating might not be the right word for this, but casinos have control over those system and they are using this in favor to them.
Though some site hire third party for this, but I'm sure they will not allow gamblers to win that much. Some will win and some will lose the money, this is how gambling works and even a reputable site have their own dark side when it comes to their system. All you can do is to enjoy playing, and ignore those issues because a good site will be more fun to play as it can be rewarding especially with bonuses.

[stomachgrowls]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Depending on which site you are playing on but it is unlikely if you do stick into a known one for them to cheat whenever you do have a big bankroll or allocation but who knows right? If you do able to notice out those

notable differences when it comes to outcomes then why wont stick out on smaller bets and make up some wins rather than on pushing yourself on trying to prove out and make use of huge ones?

It is really that hard to make out some conclusions in regarding to this considering that gambling do always means about losing for long term or runs which its never been that recommendable if you are
really trying to pursue out on making money which is really that a bad idea.