Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?

[retreat]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

What do you mean by deceiving? what the casino platform is doing is not deceiving its users at all, they are just adjusting the probability level of their games to be able to make their ecosystem healthier. Just imagine if there were more winning players in a casino than losers, that would certainly bankrupt the casino platform in a short time. There are many things that are considered by casino platforms to maintain their business and if we look at it from a business perspective there is nothing wrong with that.

[Fiatless]

I don't think that is called cheating. That is called probability! The house knows that you will start with small bets and gradually move into big amount. When you place a big bet after winning small bets they would make you lose. This why you always need to be inconsistent while placing bets. Sometimes it works and most of the time it won't. Always remember in the end the casino will always win.

I am not sure that the house knows when you place a big bet and they make you lose. If this is true gamblers will not be winning big. We have seen people place bets which turn out to become big wins. Gambling is a combination of luck and skills. If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.

[_act_]

If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.

There are some casinos that may want to manipulate, but people will know, this is the kind of casinos that gamblers can use small amount of money to win, but if using high amount of money they will lose. A kind of game of 50 to 50 percent chance using a faulty means in a way gamblers will lose. But which trustworthy gambling site wants to damage their reputation, those gambling sites that have good reputation avoid cheating in order to have more customers.

[michellee]

If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.

There are some casinos that may want to manipulate, but people will know, this is the kind of casinos that gamblers can use small amount of money to win, but if using high amount of money they will lose. A kind of game of 50 to 50 percent chance using a faulty means in a way gamblers will lose. But which trustworthy gambling site wants to damage their reputation, those gambling sites that have good reputation avoid cheating in order to have more customers.

No trusted casino site wants to tarnish its own reputation. That means the casino will lose the trust of all its customers and the casino will also lose the potential profits that they have been getting. We will never know which casino has manipulated people with its system. Even if a trusted casino did it, we wouldn't even know.

But if we don't decide to play gambling on suspicious casino sites, I don't think we will experience problems of fraud, manipulation or whatever. Casinos will always pay attention to us and will provide attractive offers.

[danherbias07]

That is part of "the house will always win". A higher percentage of chance will always be leaning on them that the player. Try betting on the same amount for 10-100 rounds and do the math on how much percentage are your wins.
I did it before for 1000 rounds. All I can say is, players are always on the losing side. If there are gamblers who had stories that they won more, either that's a lie or they got lucky with 1 big bet and then stayed away from that game for a long time.
If you are having trouble trusting their system, then you can always choose another game. Try Poker. Try Sports gambling. I assure you, it will be more fun if you are doing it with your own effort to win.

[leonair]

In this regard you missed an opportunity though. Since you say that you win by betting with small amounts. I think you should have played with smaller amounts. However, no such complaint was found on any reputable site. When you bet more, your luck doesn't favor you. Or it could be that the site is cheating you. But for this you must collect proper evidence. Otherwise you cannot take any action against them. If your doubt is strong and you can't gather any evidence, you may be better off choosing another good site.

Yes I was playing with small amount but when I used big amount I lost so I kept playing with big amount to recover loss then I noticed that as long as I was using small amount the system was giving me chance to win again and again but  Using large amount keeps losing me and my balance goes to 0 in one session. This could also happen because of my panic so I didn't create a Scam Accusations for it.

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

If you have it since evening that they are cheating with you.  Then you can play live casino from stake.com where your favorite Blackjack is also available. There you will see the dealer live and several other gamblers like you will be playing together at the same table as you.  So in this case you don't have to play against any system. In this case it is unlikely that you will have any doubts that they are cheating with you. Yes but there is no way to avoid that when you play against a system that casino site can cheat you through their complex algorithm or some secret coding.

I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating 

[Taskford]

I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating 

If you are not confident about the result on system generated result games then maybe this is not really for you because you cannot enjoy the game by having worries if you are been cheated or not. Better play only on where you are convince that the platform is safe since this could make you feel better and you could enjoy the game even if you lose. Stake is good casino so in my opinion you are in good platform and I guess you cannot get cheating issues there.

[Synchronice]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Which casinos do you think are cheating you? It's better to record you gaming sessions and open a thread in Scam Accusation section or in gambling forums and explain the shady behavior. It will affect their image, in turn may give you money and it will benefit the community, overall.
By the way, if you are so lucky with low bets on that particular casino, just don't bet more and you'll always end up winning

To be honest, casinos don't need to fake results because every game has house edge, starting from 1% and going higher, that means' long-term they are guaranteed to profit, so I don't get the point of faking results but maybe some of them want quick and more money, idk. Better to open scam accusation threads with evidences here and there about casinos which you think lie to warn more people.

[coinerer]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

If you have it since evening that they are cheating with you.  Then you can play live casino from stake.com where your favorite Blackjack is also available. There you will see the dealer live and several other gamblers like you will be playing together at the same table as you.  So in this case you don't have to play against any system. In this case it is unlikely that you will have any doubts that they are cheating with you. Yes but there is no way to avoid that when you play against a system that casino site can cheat you through their complex algorithm or some secret coding.

I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating 

It's your fault that you don't know a site well enough to deposit $1000 there and lose it. I think you've repeatedly won by betting smaller amounts out of greed, then panicked betting with higher amounts and gambled excitedly, so you lost.  I don't think the stake site cheated you because it has been in the gambling market for a long time and has done billions of bets so no one can raise such a case against them till now. If stake were cheating like that they would not be considered a reputable casino site despite the competition of thousands of gambling sites on the casino market

[socks435]

There are some casinos are cheating and some of them are not but the problem is we do not know if they are cheating or not because all Casino sites are not open source  everything in Casino can be modify privately without telling us that they change some codes/script.
That is why live casinos are better that playing in any casino which is created only by software.
No one could reveal their own program script related to casino and there is someone before selling ready made casino script where you can able to change luck inside the script pannel. I'm not saying all Casino have this option I just remember someone selling a ready made casino with that option which I think the script just made for scamming.

[slapper]

That is part of "the house will always win". A higher percentage of chance will always be leaning on them that the player. Try betting on the same amount for 10-100 rounds and do the math on how much percentage are your wins.
I did it before for 1000 rounds. All I can say is, players are always on the losing side. If there are gamblers who had stories that they won more, either that's a lie or they got lucky with 1 big bet and then stayed away from that game for a long time.
If you are having trouble trusting their system, then you can always choose another game. Try Poker. Try Sports gambling. I assure you, it will be more fun if you are doing it with your own effort to win.

The odds, they got us players pinned down, no lie. But think about it, gambling's all about that thrill, going out on a limb. If you want a surefire win, this ain't your jam! Still, knowing which games put the odds in your favor helps. Take Blackjack – it's got some of the sweetest odds around. Stick to the basics, and you can slice that house edge under 1%!

But let's not kid ourselves, gambling ain't just about the Benjamins. It's the buzz of the game, the ride of your life. Me, I like switching it up – trying different games, betting strategies, keeping it fresh and wild! Who knows, maybe you'll hit that jackpot, walk away with mad stacks! So, take a leap, try something new. You never know what thrills and spills you'll find!

[Lorence.xD]

Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."

Exactly, this is where you can say the phrase "the more you win the more you lose" because it aims the players to be greedy at winning more with giving them the high chance of probability when betting low amount of money. That's why consistency is the key to gain more profit in gambling by slowly leaving with a profit. But you can still beat that system is to always have a self control. And I agree that it still depends on your luck if you're gonna quit with a win or lose situation.

[KiaKia]

It is sure that the experience you get from one online casino will differ from that you will get from another online casino. If you are not satisfied with the results you are getting, do know that there are many online casinos you can try, and I am sure that you will get a different result from one online casino to another.

Use reputable online casinos and be opened to try out new games and strategies, some online casinos do like to cheat that's why I would recommend a well-rated casino that has a good reputation, most smaller or new online casinos likes to cheat or refuse to pay, not all of them are worth the risk.

[masulum]

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Use reputable online casinos and be opened to try out new games and strategies, some online casinos do like to cheat that's why I would recommend a well-rated casino that has a good reputation, most smaller or new online casinos likes to cheat or refuse to pay, not all of them are worth the risk.

Cheating is sometimes an ambiguous word issued by gamblers. When someone loses with a huge loss for gambling ini any gambling, it will generally be judged that he has been deceived by a fraudulent system. However, on the other hand, on the same website ^(example), a user stated that he often gets big wins from this provider. So, it's not about the recommended provider or not, but whether the gambler's assessment is fair or not. If every time he loses he always says cheating, it means he is betting wrong, because gambling is actually luck or play with probability, not a guarantee that he always wins. Many lose thousands of dollars every day, but he understands that is the risk of gambling, so that person will not think that it is cheating. Maybe, not recommending site/provider it could cheat their system, but i have a questions, doesn't every system have a similar system? lose more than win? lets say when we are playing an online poker, when we getting bad card more then 20 rounds, do you think they are cheating or you are on a bad day?

[OgNasty]

I think the answer to this concern is to bet on things like sporting events where the only way they can really cheat you is on the odds. Some casinos provide proof of fairness, but 99% of the people who use the casinos have no idea how to verify it anyway. If you’re concerned about being cheated, just bet on public events that you’re happy with the odds and you should be fine.

[lizarder]

It is sure that the experience you get from one online casino will differ from that you will get from another online casino. If you are not satisfied with the results you are getting, do know that there are many online casinos you can try, and I am sure that you will get a different result from one online casino to another.

The problem that the OP is facing is not the casino, in principle the casino is the same because we will play with the system, so it's not a casino problem and more precisely because luck is not with him. Besides, OP mentioned that he always wins when placing small bets, that means it's not the Casino that's in trouble, but he's unlucky on big bets in the dice game.

From what I understand of the case that happened to the OP, it's not about being scammed for not being paid by the Casino, but he always fails to win big bets and I don't think he's had any luck at the dice game or he could just be having a bad day.

[molsewid]

I think the answer to this concern is to bet on things like sporting events where the only way they can really cheat you is on the odds. Some casinos provide proof of fairness, but 99% of the people who use the casinos have no idea how to verify it anyway. If you’re concerned about being cheated, just bet on public events that you’re happy with the odds and you should be fine.

They can also make some background checking, it is easy to find some casinos here in the forum he can also try to check reddit as well.  Many casinos has their thread in this forum so that they can also get feedback and recommendations. We as gamblers, we are responsible for our own doing and being cheated should not be allowed but we need to be sure if we are right and also if that casino has really a good reputation in the very first.

[Hispo]

It may be just you having a bad luck day, but if the casino has some way to be proven as provably fair, I believe you should try to certify next time you feel like rolling dices or playing blackjack. If you do not how to do so, there are some tutorials on internet.

https://stake.com/blog/how-does-the-provably-fair-system-work

That is one of the reasons I would personally not encourage anyone to gamble in small and relatively unknown casinos, if they do not have a way to check the fairness, then I would consider it to be some sort of a red-flag.

[Jody.Drummer]

Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."

Exactly, this is where you can say the phrase "the more you win the more you lose" because it aims the players to be greedy at winning more with giving them the high chance of probability when betting low amount of money. That's why consistency is the key to gain more profit in gambling by slowly leaving with a profit. But you can still beat that system is to always have a self control. And I agree that it still depends on your luck if you're gonna quit with a win or lose situation.

If you don't win, you will lose, that's something we definitely feel when playing casinos. They will say that the casino is cheating if they feel they are losing, and when they win big they will just keep quiet, which is something I have encountered so far. 
I agree with what you say, that it is also a part of playing with our emotions, yes, when we bet small and keep winning, our emotions will definitely encourage us to bet a larger amount, and that's actually a mistake to avoid. . Don't think when our bet is small and we win it will be the same when we increase the bet amount. As much as possible we must hold ourselves so that we do not get carried away by emotions.

[Vaculin]

It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.