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March 24, 2023, 07:58:12 PM
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It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.
We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.

Personally, I think it's likely to be coincidence, because casinos don't need to cheat on gamblers in order to make profit, since they are already assured to profit on long term due to the house edge.

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March 24, 2023, 08:09:17 PM
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It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.
We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.

Personally, I think it's likely to be coincidence, because casinos don't need to cheat on gamblers in order to make profit, since they are already assured to profit on long term due to the house edge.
If we do speak about some long time running sites or platforms then it is really just that unrealistic or not really that believable on committing some cheating considering that they are indeed making huge money or income
in longer runs without needing to cheat up.This is why it is really good that we do have this forum on which we could really be able to see on whose really just simply trolling or just telling up some lies or simply
making simple issues to make it big and accusing up a company without having that solid evidence or simply with those common issues which could be that easily resolved by the team.
There are really just that people who are really that impatient when it comes to things.

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March 24, 2023, 08:19:07 PM
 #103

OP it's as simple as A-Z just stick with the amount of bet that's favourable to you. From the account you have given it clearly shows that smaller amount of bet pays you than when you use bigger amount whereas there are some persons that don't even get to win with either big or small amount, so I wonder what their own case would be referred to if yours is said to be a cheating one.

In gambling its necessary we understand the kind of games abd bets that we make successes from and stick to those instead of burden yourself with those that don't work out for you, stay where your luck shines.

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March 24, 2023, 08:34:31 PM
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Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
Well, cheating could add more profits to the casino but I guess, they won’t do it because they have to protect their good reputation that they have built years from now. So just accept the reality that you are not always lucky when gambling, and you have gone out of luck when you start gambling big amount. If that’s what you have seen in gambling, then most likely settle for small bets as that what makes you more profitable than risking a big amount and lose them at the end.

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March 24, 2023, 08:40:38 PM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I would like to call you are the luckiest as well as unlucky person cause when you bet small you keep winning when do it with big amount you are losing, so let's find out by keep playing with small amounts all the time you have more wins all the times? If that happens still you can become a millionaire in a week even if you start with $10 or $100.









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March 24, 2023, 08:46:47 PM
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Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
Well, cheating could add more profits to the casino but I guess, they won’t do it because they have to protect their good reputation that they have built years from now.
There are casinos that actually cheat and still manage to maintain a very good reputation, there kind of cheating doesn't have to noticeable by gamblers but its there, their style of cheating could be through tweaking some of their games in such a way that the gambler hardly wins his or her bet, and in the end, the gambler and onlookers may attribute the constant loss to ill-luck.

This is why if i play a certain for some time and don't win, if its a game I like so much, then I will try it on another casino to really be sure its luck that's keeping me from winning.

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Casinos have always the chance to cheat us whenever they want to but I don’t think they want to be more known on that because that will only ruin whatever sacrifices they have built from the first place. So just consider yourself unlucky that time and lose the big amount you bet. I’m sure a lot of those who lose too are also betting bigger than your money bet. Next time, never bet on an amount you can’t manage to lose and end up suspecting the site for cheating.

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March 24, 2023, 10:04:54 PM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I think all of these are just a coincidence.  The dice result is predetermined using RNG but is randomly triggered when we roll the dice so if you are playing in a reputable and licensed casino, there is no way that the game is cheating you since the game system is monitored and even produces hashes for the provably fair verification.

On the other hand, if the blackjack is machine-generated then it also follows the process of slots and dice in determining its outcome.  Btw, can you share the name of the gambling platform?

Casinos have always the chance to cheat us whenever they want to but I don’t think they want to be more known on that because that will only ruin whatever sacrifices they have built from the first place. So just consider yourself unlucky that time and lose the big amount you bet. I’m sure a lot of those who lose too are also betting bigger than your money bet. Next time, never bet on an amount you can’t manage to lose and end up suspecting the site for cheating.

Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.

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March 24, 2023, 11:32:04 PM
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Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.


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We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.


One thing that have constantly being in practice in most casino is the strict adherence to their terms and conditions and since casinos build with profit-making as the primary goal it now becomes very important for the casino to always win against the player no matter what, and only highly reputable casinos will revisit any case that has to do with account balance and players winnings.

-This has been the major reason why some casinos are constantly accused of stealing and cheating players, so it is now left for the casino to either build a good reputation by putting players interest as much as the casino's gains and do what is fair and acceptable.

-This is the only way gamblers will not feel cheated in anything that happens while their playing in such a casino.
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March 24, 2023, 11:47:05 PM
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Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.

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If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.

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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
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March 25, 2023, 02:01:49 AM
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What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Most likely the answer is no as the house edge is mostly the one doing the work and that one session is just unlucky as most gamblers have probably been through the same situation.

With live casino games, there might not be any way to verify their fairness but it's still hard to think they're cheating as I assume they're being monitored similar to how games from third-party providers are being inspected to confirm they're fair.

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March 25, 2023, 08:07:30 AM
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If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.
in this case the casino is popular and has a good reputation, usually they have been recognized that the casino is fair and it would not be possible for the casino to deceive us, while the casino is a business established to generate profits for the company owner.
maybe the people who judge casinos to be deceptive are frustrated people who gamble without responsibility and always lose money when betting without being able to control their emotions. so he feels that the casino has tricked him even though the casino is provided to make customers happy and must gamble responsibly.

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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble on trusted casino for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.

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March 25, 2023, 10:39:35 AM
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Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.
Indeed! Certain individuals simply cannot resist the temptation, persisting until they've lost it all. The lack of self-restraint is astonishing! Nevertheless, casinos must stay afloat, hence the house edge to guarantee their solvency. Winning every round is simply a pipe dream!

Still, it's not all about the W or L; it's the thrill of the game, the vibe we're after. That's why I tell the crew, hit up those top-notch casinos, like that spot you mentioned! You gotta feel protected and secure, knowin' they ain't gonna pull a fast one. Huge weight off your shoulders!


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March 25, 2023, 11:28:51 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble in trusted casinos for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.


Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.
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March 25, 2023, 12:05:58 PM
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Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.
Especially new gamblers make negative comments about the casino when they lose consecutively which has no basis. Casinos always want to give maximum benefits to their clients but they have several terms and conditions that a gambler has to follow to conduct gambling activities. I received some complaints from several new gamblers and finally found their fault when I researched well. But yes, some new casinos can make mistakes that can be resolved with proper evidence.

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