Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?

[shogun47]

I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.

In sports betting you don't have that issue. The outcome is whatever the outcome is and the effort to verify it is essentially inherent in sports betting itself. There is no effort on your part. Except for games that are manipulated by players on the pitch or whatever you bet on, but that is a different story and up to legal authorities. When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?

[Jawhead999]

When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?

I think if the match was proven manipulated in short time, the casino will void any users bet on that's match. But if the match was proven manipulated after few days or weeks, the casino can't void the bet since they've distribute the reward accordingly. They still have a chance to freeze the account of any player who have previously bet in that's match, but it just my assumption because I never experienced this problem.

[reagansimms]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

[AicecreaME]

It's their RTP, your skills, knowledge, and luck combined that make the difference in winning and losing for every bet you've made. You are playing against the house and most likely, the rules will be in favor of the house to have their profit as well. They'll just give a reasonable percentage or rate of winning and then it will be all up to it and your capabilities whether you will win or not.

There are already provably fair games which makes it known that the game isn't rigged so if you want to know for sure, you can try gambling sites that offer that for your peace of mind. Sometimes, casinos randomly adjust the odds of an account too, so it'll be a matter of winning against the odds given to you.

[Twentyonepaylots]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.

[joniboini]

I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.

There are provably fair casinos out there if anyone is interested in checking the odds. I think it is popular enough that most people probably know which one is verifiable and which one is just using jargon to trick its visitors. In one way or another, it is even more impossible to verify if a match in a sport is rigged or not unless the user has some access to insider information imo.

But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?

That would be a dumb move IMO. It is not like they can't recover from the loss (if they ever did). I bet the house is more or less winning regardless of the outcome of the match either way. As for compensation for those who bet on the wrong side, they'll probably give free bets or something similar. They can definitely use their ToS to prevent being bankrupt by shouldering users' 'mistakes', such as claiming that such a situation falls under "extraordinary circumstances" for example, and not the casino's fault. CMIIW.

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

Recency bias definitely plays a part to arrive at such a conclusion. I also find similar behavior outside of casino games, I think people tend to remember bad luck better than good luck, so it is not uncommon for people to feel cheated even if they know that the house will always win in the long run. That being said, as long as they can gather enough data to support their claims, any unfair platform will be exposed sooner or later.

[danherbias07]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.

There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.

[Fredomago]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.

There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.

Always up to you if you will go to use it and take the risk. If the bet will win, it doesn't mean that it will keep on winning. The chance that some of the shared pick will lose is always possible. You should trust your own instinct and if ever you will follow someone's pick, make sure that you also do some extra research to make sure that the chance of winning is better.

There's no guarantee as we are inside gambling. We should follow our own decision and hope for the best outcome.

[erep]

Always up to you if you will go to use it and take the risk. If the bet will win, it doesn't mean that it will keep on winning. The chance that some of the shared pick will lose is always possible. You should trust your own instinct and if ever you will follow someone's pick, make sure that you also do some extra research to make sure that the chance of winning is better.

There's no guarantee as we are inside gambling. We should follow our own decision and hope for the best outcome.

We never trust other people's opinions without first considering and analyzing the advice to get a chance to win, even though he followed the advice from the chat board but it is highly discouraged and too risky to follow the instructions shared on the chat board, so make sure we have a gambler's strategy based on analysis each and every gambler has the potential to get a winning chance if they have the expertise to analyze every bet of gambling.

[harizen]

What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

You have to understand that you are doing "gambling" where you can't expect a 100% winning rate for every of your session.

Stop this mindset of yours that you feel cheated whenever you are losing. It's just unfortunate that you lose that particular session.

If you feel like casinos are cheating you, simply stop gambling. The moment you have now understood that losing is part of the game, and the casino is not really cheating on you, then come back again and try to make an attempt to find your luck.

[redsun114]

I got the same impression before. My co-gamblers in one site I am playing also react the same. The truth is that, we are only not used on betting bigger amounts but try to do it often and you will see that losses are only normal but the longer you do it, you can still get a win. This wasn't advisable if you are poor of course.

In gambling, we shouldn't chase for the bigger profits but we must only play to get entertained. If ever we win some then great and we must be thankful with it. It's only up to us if we will continue but you must know what can happen next. It's either you will earn more or you will bust all your winnings and go home empty.

[DoublerHunter]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

^Is that lust you mean is the gambling addiction?
But for me in addition to your statement, greed can be a dangerous trap, and it is very important to focus on the game's strategies rather than the desire to win big quickly and also crucial to use your brain intelligence when playing against the system knowing the fact that no one can beat them. If you gamble for fun that is enough and make sure there is verification for the RNG that is generated. By starting with a small bet and enjoying the process, you can have fun and still bring home some money when you leave the casino. So keep playing smart and have fun!

[goinmerry]

What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It's a losing experience mate and you have to accept that while playing gambling. Not all the time, we can expect that everything will be in our favor of us.

Just moved on with that lose and try your luck the next time you consider gambling again.

It's not a form of cheating why you lose especially if you are playing on a good gambling site. But if you played on a gambling site that is not even popular, maybe there's a chance that they are cheating on you as these sites don't have a reputation to take care of.

[shasan]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

They can manipulate their system and make us losers and if they can do that we have nothing to do. Gambling on casinos is very risky as if any admin sees a large amount then they can manipulate it though for the small amount they do not manipulate it. And it does not depend on all the casinos. I think blackjack will not do this type of manipulation for only 1k dollars.

[libert19]

imo, Its your mind making justifications. You said, you always win smaller bets, that could be case of survivorship bias. You can make many small bets without hit in your bankroll, eventually winning one of these makes you think 'you always win small bets', while odds remained same.

[lienfaye]

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

True. We're talking about gambling and if you know how it works then it is not surprising to lose. Hence, be prepared for it because if you can't stand losing your money in gambling then better to refrain yourself from playing.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

We have different strategy so if op is winning with small bet then he can opt to continue playing with such amount to win. Just do what you think is favorable to you while having fun so you won't think of you're spending money just to lose. Don't forget to only gamble on reputable sites to be certain that the casino is not cheating you and can pay your winnings even it's a huge amount.

[ethereumhunter]

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There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble on trusted casino for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.

If you experience frustration, I suggest you rest and don't gamble in the next few days instead you encounter other bad things because usually when we are in a state of frustration or stress, it can trigger us to do things that are out of the ordinary and can get great results bad. By playing gambling at a trusted casino, we can provide comfort and we won't think all about the bad things that might happen, especially if we just want to have fun gambling. We will not do anything that could result in our account being scrutinised and investigated by the casino.

[QueenVera]

At some point when we're losing, we tend to think the house is cheating us and when we win, we feel and think we are too good at playing the game and one thing I've learnt so far is to know when to stop and I always try my possible best not to get so addicted to gambling and op, what truly matters is that we figure out what truly matters and what is good for us, and it seems you are not good with playing with huge amount of money, so I will advice that stick to playing for fun with smaller amount of money as well combing in some small profits while having fun rather than wanting to go in big with expectations of coming out big which isn't guaranteed in gambling.
I don't think the house is cheating as most of the games are provably fair.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

     -   This is all I can tell you mate, remember there is no casino that exists here in the crypto space for them to give an opportunity to all the gamblers who will enter their platform in just one day, this is a business, what can you expect to earn here? of course it's not like that.

The house edge always wins, keep that in your mind, that's why the risk is high when you play gambling in a casino, at the beginning you will experience winning and then when they see that you are putting a large amount there, they will take it back from you, but your feeling who have experienced winning, they have implanted that in your personality, so as a result, you will return to their casino again and again.

[Helena Yu]

They can manipulate their system and make us losers and if they can do that we have nothing to do. Gambling on casinos is very risky as if any admin sees a large amount then they can manipulate it though for the small amount they do not manipulate it. And it does not depend on all the casinos. I think blackjack will not do this type of manipulation for only 1k dollars.

You're just making an assumptions, how it's possible the casino can manipulate their system if they give a way to us how to verify each bet using cryptography and the bet is differ from one to another. If you tend to lose when you bet with high amount money and you tend to win when you bet with small amount money, it's just based on your luck and you're not gamble so long when you bet with small amount money.