Sherbet.com 1206$ SCAM (stolen deposit)

[elegigglebets]

Sherbet uses same oddsprovider as some other sportsbooks that many players have had bad experiences lately (bc.game/rollbit/owl.games/etc.) according to what I've been reading on here, twitter and trustpilot. This oddsprovider is very actively flagging accounts that are placing good bets (value bets) and/or accusing players of arb abusing or syndicate betting.

I would really suggest to avoid sportsbooks using this oddsprovider for the time being, decent risk of your winnings being confiscated.

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[JollyGood]

I would like to address your post by saying yahoo62278 is well respected member of the forum. In my opinion the tone you applied towards him was inappropriate. I think his post did not warrant the response you gave him.

Anyway, yahoo62278 said nothing more and nothing less than what many forum members already believe and beyond that he advised the OP to contact the playsherbet forum representative via PM. He was not exaggerating in any capacity.

I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.

With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.

I think you are exaggerating. It's not that hard to understand why. The player in question may not have had an ambition to have an account here until he encountered problems with the operator so now he's here seeking help from the community. It's that simple.

Stop assuming things until proven otherwise.

[playsherbet]

Hi, diggad,

Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too. Please see the screenshot below:



We conducted a review of your account and found you had profited hundreds of dollars from these bets, which is why your account was initially suspended. We have provided you with the ability to dispute this review and share your own evidence via the email provided on Intercom, which you have not done. As per the terms and conditions you agreed to upon registering on Sherbet, we maintain the ability to suspend accounts that are in breach of our terms. We believe you were well aware of the fact you were unfairly taking advantage of our sportsbook, and our provider is 100% confident in their decision to flag your account.

Sherbet is a new casino, and we operate under strict regulations and terms which we uphold to our highest ability. We don't tolerate sportsbook abuse, nor do we tolerate any breaches of our terms. As explained above (and on Intercom), you are more than welcome to send us an email containing evidence from your account, and we can review this with our provider to ensure the correct decision was made.

[JollyGood]

Thank you for the explanation. As with many scam allegations made against casinos, the dynamics can change after the alleged perpetrator writes their side of the story.

If the Sportsbook provider stated the OP cannot be trusted because of fraudulent activity it stands to reason you would take action as per your terms and conditions.

If the OP refused to dispute your conclusions or share evidence via your website online chat it means you did not really have much choice but to take action.

Hi, diggad,

Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too. Please see the screenshot below:



We conducted a review of your account and found you have withdrawn hundreds of dollars from these bets, which is why your account was initially suspended. We have provided you with the ability to dispute this review and share your own evidence via the email provided on Intercom, which you have not done. As per the terms and conditions you agreed to upon registering on Sherbet, we maintain the ability to suspend accounts that are in breach of our terms. We believe you were well aware of the fact you were unfairly taking advantage of our sportsbook, and our provider is 100% confident in their decision to flag your account.

Sherbet is a new casino, and we operate under strict regulations and terms which we uphold to our highest ability. We don't tolerate sportsbook abuse, nor do we tolerate any breaches of our terms. As explained above (and on Intercom), you are more than welcome to send us an email containing evidence from your account, and we can review this with our provider to ensure the correct decision was made.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Hi, diggad,

Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too.

Sad. sportsbook abusers actually forget that the front end of a casino is just like the affiliates of a casino. In the front end everyone has different branding. The better you are in marketing the higher your brand visible but in the back end all the casinos are the same. They have common sports and games providers. And the providers keep a lot of logs of every finger print you leave from your browser. It's impossible to cheat them.

The entire industry is based in trust than verifying. In cases if these providers would give blockchain evidences with their claims then it would be nicer and easier for everyone else to make a clear conclusion. But it make sense and understandable that for data protection, they can not do such things even if they want too.

[LEVSKI7]

Sherbet uses same oddsprovider as some other sportsbooks that many players have had bad experiences lately (bc.game/rollbit/owl.games/etc.) according to what I've been reading on here, twitter and trustpilot. This oddsprovider is very actively flagging accounts that are placing good bets (value bets) and/or accusing players of arb abusing or syndicate betting.

I would really suggest to avoid sportsbooks using this oddsprovider for the time being, decent risk of your winnings being confiscated.

That's right, these are dirty criminals. I also play volleyball bets very successfully and many of the sites immediately limit, that is, the provider.
Of course, the provider has no such rights, he is doing illegal activity. But these sites consist of 2-3 people and they have no choice

[lesliegray]

Sherbet uses same oddsprovider as some other sportsbooks that many players have had bad experiences lately (bc.game/rollbit/owl.games/etc.) according to what I've been reading on here, twitter and trustpilot. This oddsprovider is very actively flagging accounts that are placing good bets (value bets) and/or accusing players of arb abusing or syndicate betting.

I would really suggest to avoid sportsbooks using this oddsprovider for the time being, decent risk of your winnings being confiscated.

That's right, these are dirty criminals. I also play volleyball bets very successfully and many of the sites immediately limit, that is, the provider.
Of course, the provider has no such rights, he is doing illegal activity. But these sites consist of 2-3 people and they have no choice

This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.

[LEVSKI7]

ANJ: Operators may not limit stakes without “legitimate reasons”
Legally defined legitimate reasons include refusing to allow a minor, someone who has self-excluded or an excessive bettor to gamble.

[JollyGood]

What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446145.msg61977685#msg61977685

This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.

[LEVSKI7]

Both cases were brought forward by the partner of Egolegal Lawyers, Nicolás Simó Álvarez, in partnership with Legálitas. The lawyer alleged before El Confidencial, one of Spain's digital newspapers, that "the betting houses turn what are games of chance into a round business for them, in which either the house always wins or, the few times it loses, they throw the customer out and everything is solved."
Both clients of the sports betting platforms had their accounts reactivated, which had been previously closed, as well as their status as "no limit bettor" restored.

[elegigglebets]

What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446145.msg61977685#msg61977685

This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.

Value bets does not equal fraudulent activity

[coolcoinz]

This is where I don't like how some of these casinos operate, especially in matters regarding communicating to a customer in matters regarding their account closure. Most of them never always give a proper reason why the account was banned/locked.

What is so hard with the saying "Hey Player X, we have banned your account because we discovered that you were involved in fraudulent activity A, B and C. On this day you did this and that, on the next day you did more manipulation" etc

Someone will obviously complain if they don't know why they were banned.

I've asked this on one of these threads and according to a representative of one casino, they couldn't give us any details because this could undermine their operation and make it easier for scammers. Imagine that! They won't even say how many accounts a person accused of multi accounting had because it's sensitive information.

I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.

With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.

I feel like at least some of them deposit money to a crypto casino, get their account blocked/suspended and they google "xxx scam" like in this case it would be "sherbet scam" and one of the links to come up is bitcointalk scam accusation board, so they make an account and write a complaint. It's pretty understandable for people writing these posts to be newbies on bitcointalk.
Of course a lot of them will be scammers themselves, but we're here to help them get some recognition and at the very least an explanation of what was it that got them banned.



So, let's be transparent here, OP. The casino claims you've been withdrawing hundreds of USD before that one bet that was denied, yet you've posted that you've deposited $600 and were denied $1200.
What's the truth here? Did you post the screenshots this way to make it look like you were at a loss and make us defend you? Why did you lie about not being given any explanation by the casino?

[holydarkness]

What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446145.msg61977685#msg61977685

This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.

Value bets does not equal fraudulent activity

To loosely quote someone explained value betting once to me, "yes, value bets are not illegal as in you'll be jailed for it, but it's heavily frowned upon by sportbetting platforms". I think it's one of the common knowledge amongst sportbettors.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I've asked this on one of these threads and according to a representative of one casino, they couldn't give us any details because this could undermine their operation and make it easier for scammers. Imagine that! They won't even say how many accounts a person accused of multi accounting had because it's sensitive information.

But today, they just did provide some information that helps us somehow understand what OP might have done. This is the kind of information we would love to see. They could hide most of the details about how they netted the alleged fraudster, but at least we need to understand both versions of the story for the different sides so that it's easier to tell who isn't fair.

The information they shared today at least gives more sense to the story.

[JollyGood]

The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.

If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet

[yhiaali3]

I see a lot of complaints here in the Scam Accusations section about casinos, the main reason is that most players register with the casino, make a deposit and start playing before reading the conditions.

The terms are often in the interest of the casino and give them broad rights to ban the player or freeze their account for any reason (even if there is a mere suspicion that the player is cheating), but in the first place the player has already agreed to these terms so they have no right to object.

Cases like this are hard to judge because each side thinks they are right, anyway OP now has a chance to prove his point against Sherbet's words.

[elegigglebets]

The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.

If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet

If anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning

[JollyGood]

I am not claiming the OP is correct in their conduct or claim and at the same time I am not claiming sherbet.com are correct in their conduct or counterclaim.

I would like to read what the OP has to say in response to the post made by playsherbet where they claimed the OP conducted in fraudulent activity. After reading that elusive post I will be able to comment further but others are welcome to come to their own views and conclusions as and when they are ready.

What I stated in my previous post and reiterate here is this: If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet

You and another member seem to have taken over spokesperson roles for the OP. The OP meanwhile continues to avoid replying directly to the sherbet.com forum representative.

The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.

If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet

If anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning

[LEVSKI7]

Legally defined legitimate reasons include refusing to allow a minor, someone who has self-excluded or an excessive bettor to gamble.
These are the reasons for which an account can be closed. If there is an argument for closing - low league value bets, the regulator must fine them and, in the second case, revoke the license-
so are court decisions.

[shasan]

I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.

With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.

I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?