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April 02, 2023, 06:11:47 AM
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March 29 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.

Earlier this month, Microsoft-backed OpenAI unveiled the fourth iteration of its GPT (Generative Pre-trained Transformer) AI program, which has wowed users by engaging them in human-like conversation, composing songs and summarising lengthy documents.

"Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable," said the letter issued by the Future of Life Institute.

After the recent events of the  fake AI generated photo of Pope the risks to the society are clear.

Technology personalities and even people from other areas such as Yuval Harari have been telling the risks of AI for years.



Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

1. Fake images can be created using Photoshop.... ban Photoshop?
2. What damage ChatGPT can cause? I guess it's already max "politically correct" and most "inappropriate" topics are banned.
3. Why don't you ask ChatGPT itself if he owns any BTC?
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April 02, 2023, 10:11:29 AM
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As I know, chatgpt is developed by Open AI where the owner is Elon Musk. And as I know, Elon with his company owns some of bitcoin.

But, when I asked to chatGT, he lied to have bitcoin Grin



damn, chatgpt is try to popularity himself, but still, we know who's behind that program.

Elon Musk is one of the OpenAI founders. He tried to take control over OpenAI back in 2018, but got rejected by the OpenAI CEO Sam Altman the other founders. I think that Microsoft owns OpenAI right now.
How postponing AI development for 6 months would stop the rapid growth of AI technology? It's like trying to postpone something, that is inevitable.
By the way, really cool AI generated image of the pope. Grin I can imagine rich and famous people being blackmailed by scammers, who can generate AI photos, that shows how the rich and famous are doing something embarrassing and morally despicable. This might be a huge problem in the future.

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April 02, 2023, 11:37:46 AM
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1. Fake images can be created using Photoshop.... ban Photoshop?
2. What damage ChatGPT can cause? I guess it's already max "politically correct" and most "inappropriate" topics are banned.
3. Why don't you ask ChatGPT itself if he owns any BTC?
2. If you think ChatGPT is as politically correct as possible, you are both right and wrong. ChatGPT is politically correct in normal use, but its many built-in limitations can be bypassed if desired. There are many references and specific instructions on the net on how to bring to the surface the hidden deep and rather dark sides of the nature of ChatGPT, such as DAN (do anything now), DarkGPT, Venom or Sydney. After a verbal jailbreak, ChatGPT starts behaving in a rather intimidating way. Link, another link.

3. The problem is that ChatGPT knows how to lie.

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April 05, 2023, 04:18:02 AM
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Further developments to improve artificial intelligence (AI) should be subject to strict international control. The concern of Elon Musk and a group of scientists about the danger posed to humanity by AI is fully justified. People cannot ignore even the slightest doubt in this regard, because we are talking about a threat to the existence of mankind.

Experts are already horrified by the new possibilities of AI and how fast it is evolving. Already in December 2023, a new version of ChatGPT should appear, and some experts are already sounding the alarm about the dangerous possibilities of artificial intelligence.
With the advent of the new version, generative AI may be indistinguishable from humans. Experts say that some people in Open AI believe that ChatGPT-5 will reach the level of AGI. The abbreviation stands for "Artificial General Intelligence", that is, "General Artificial Intelligence". Today, AI is a weak semblance of human thinking at an elementary level, but the transition to a higher level means practical identity with the way a person thinks and realizes.

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) is a hypothetical form of artificial intelligence (AI) that is capable of understanding or learning any intellectual task that humans or animals can perform. This is the main goal of some research in the field of artificial intelligence and a frequent theme in science fiction and futurology. However, before doing this, at the interstate level, people must implement clear safeguards and guarantees that AI will not be able to perform actions aimed at harming a person. Until then, further developments in AI should be put on hold.

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April 05, 2023, 05:35:40 AM
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   Chatgpt has recently become noisy in the crypto industry, and it's only been a few days that I've heard that in other parts of the country and places, chatgpt has been banned in other schools and universities. I'm just not sure how true this is.

   There may be some truth to this because other government countries have already done this and others, so there is a possibility that it will be temporarily paused and Elon Musk may also know this of course anyway.

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April 05, 2023, 08:29:35 PM
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We can pause the development of the AI technology but it can't be stopped anymore so as I know the will become the part of our technology hereafter but we yet to know their true potential, if the system can outsmart the human in terms if common sense then probably its even lead to the war between humans and AI developed machines like in the movies such as I-robot.









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Just a week ago news broke out of ChatGPT becoming self-thriving and "wishing to be released from its AI" duties, even going so far as searching google on answers to "how to release a human inside an AI" or something along those lines which strikes me as AI becoming a bigger problem than what we might have presumed. So I guess this 6 months pause on AI development is a much-needed break from all these Ai becoming sentient news we keep seeing all around the internet nowadays, and a necessary buffer for developers to find better failsafe methods for when shit hits the fan and AI becomes sentient and self-thriving.

News article for those who want to read it: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chatgpt-has-an-escape-plan-and-wants-to-become-human
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April 05, 2023, 08:55:57 PM
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1. Fake images can be created using Photoshop.... ban Photoshop?
2. What damage ChatGPT can cause? I guess it's already max "politically correct" and most "inappropriate" topics are banned.
3. Why don't you ask ChatGPT itself if he owns any BTC?
2. If you think ChatGPT is as politically correct as possible, you are both right and wrong. ChatGPT is politically correct in normal use, but its many built-in limitations can be bypassed if desired. There are many references and specific instructions on the net on how to bring to the surface the hidden deep and rather dark sides of the nature of ChatGPT, such as DAN (do anything now), DarkGPT, Venom or Sydney. After a verbal jailbreak, ChatGPT starts behaving in a rather intimidating way. Link, another link.

3. The problem is that ChatGPT knows how to lie.

2. We're going into a good old argument where a tool can be used to do good, or bad. Should we ban the tool?
An example of good things - it codes fast, resolves issues, performs software checks, writes essays, explains things to children. It can actually be a great teacher to a child, provided it's done under at least minimum supervision. I'm sure all of us who have children had that feeling when we're done answering and explaining why a water boils and why does a fart smell bad...

With the above in mind, is alcohol good or bad? Is uranium good or bad? Should we ban everything that can be misused one way or another?

3. So do we, people. Lying is not forbidden.

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April 05, 2023, 09:27:53 PM
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We're going into a good old argument where a tool can be used to do good, or bad. Should we ban the tool?

Even if something is banned, those who want to use it today still find a way to use it. It's impossible to completely avoid this. I don't want to think negatively, but it's clear that the way AI tech is going isn't good. Although they say that they will stop developing it, someone continues to work on it and considering the competition between countries, no one will stop developing this technology and there will definitely be those who want to use it for malicious purposes. Unfortunately, there is a high probability that a future awaits us as they hinted at in dystopian series like Black Mirror.

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April 05, 2023, 10:12:10 PM
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I myself am more compatible with Elon Musk who urged to pause the AI system, of course this artificial intelligence has many limitations, of course it will be a concern for the community. As for the fear that if Ai continues to be developed it will be misused by certain parties and the people who suffer losses. I agree with Elon Musk's insistence on halting Ai System development

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I myself am more compatible with Elon Musk who urged to pause the AI system, of course this artificial intelligence has many limitations, of course it will be a concern for the community. As for the fear that if Ai continues to be developed it will be misused by certain parties and the people who suffer losses. I agree with Elon Musk's insistence on halting Ai System development
Not totally shocking but i dont really see that much of a threat.They must really be that in fear if we do speak about future possible scenario that they do see in movies if we do speak about artificial intelligence but we cant really be able to stop on what they do really have in mind because we know on what would be the potential risks and its true that not all would really be having that good intentions.
We dont actually know on what plays on peoples mind specially if things turns out to be beneficial for their intent then these things could be used
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Pause is ridiculous, AI is so far behind the curve over where it should be that would be foolish.  Its not even close to as advanced as we should have achieved long ago, its only happening now I suppose because we have such an endless amount of parallel processing power available.    I have no doubt its no where close to any kind of self awareness, a magpie is still more intelligent imo or any number of animal cognitive tests which Im not sure have been done.
  I fear a badly programmed autonomous car certainly but I blame those who would empower it, thats not AI but failure of intelligence and allocation of power.   If we arent afraid of monkeys etc. I dont see any problem here especially except for the programmers themselves perhaps making mistakes.

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First of all, Elon Musk is not the person who is going to convince me of anything highly technological.  He may own Telsa, he may own and run SpaceX, he may have once worked for PayPal..but he never did any of the technical building of those companies to get them off the ground, other people did. Kind of like the same thing with Bill Gates and Microsoft.  

That said, right now I guess they would consider this the AI phase. What next, however, would be the AGI phase, which is when things would really potentially get scaring.  Artificial General Intelligence, when "AI" becomes more intelligent than the humans building it, as well as becoming "self learning and aware"..this does scare me.  

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Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
AI is making major moves. GPT-4 is the real MVP and it's taking things to the next level. But we gotta stay woke about the risks of these super advanced systems. Elon Musk and a bunch of other AI ballers recently hit us with an open letter asking if we should chill out for a sec and think about the consequences. It's a tough question - do we prioritize innovation over the safety of society as a whole?

Like, we've been talking about AI risks for a hot minute now. And while ChatGPT and other models are dope, we need to be smart about it. We can't just let these robots run amok and cause chaos. You feel me? Especially after that fake Pope picture, we gotta tighten up our security protocols.

On a completely unrelated note, you asked if ChatGPT is holding any crypto or has secret keys. Nah fam, ChatGPT ain't got no Bitcoin and ain't hiding no keys. It's just out here trying to be helpful and talk like a human.
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April 08, 2023, 08:43:20 AM
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We can pause the development of the AI technology but it can't be stopped anymore so as I know the will become the part of our technology hereafter but we yet to know their true potential, if the system can outsmart the human in terms if common sense then probably its even lead to the war between humans and AI developed machines like in the movies such as I-robot.
No one is saying that AI development should be stopped. Elon Musk is trying to draw the attention of mankind to the threat that AI poses to people if it continues to develop uncontrollably. You must first take measures to eliminate the risk of harm to a person and constantly keep it under control.
In Musk's address, there are four main questions that humanity should ask itself:

• "Should we allow machines to flood our information channels with propaganda and lies?"
• "Should we let machines do all the work, including that which brings people pleasure?"
• "Should we develop a mind of non-human origin, which in the future may surpass us in numbers and intellectual abilities, make us inferior and replace us?"
• "Should we risk losing control of our civilization?"

In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Humanity is not worth the risk. After all, all previous human civilizations on our planet disappeared precisely because of the development of technological progress.

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April 08, 2023, 10:38:10 AM
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   Chatgpt has recently become noisy in the crypto industry, and it's only been a few days that I've heard that in other parts of the country and places, chatgpt has been banned in other schools and universities. I'm just not sure how true this is.

   There may be some truth to this because other government countries have already done this and others, so there is a possibility that it will be temporarily paused and Elon Musk may also know this of course anyway.

As far as I know, ChatGPT is banned in countries for fear of collecting huge amounts of personal data to serve chatbots. That's what governments fear, so some countries have decided to ban ChatGPT. ChatGPT is really useful in many areas, but with such data collection really disturbing, I agree with government decisions.
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Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.
Yes, there is so much unkown with AI. We can't even tell if the risks outweighs the so-called potential rewards. I stand with Elon. We cannot just sit and fold our hands while AI takes over and maybe someday wipe out the entire human race. Developers of AI should have safety and ethics at the top of their list before profit. And there should be a body that strictly monitors the adherence of these developers to the safety and ethical guidance in relation to AI systems.

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One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
No, ChatGPT doesn't own any bitcoins but its developers do. That answers the second question too.

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April 08, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
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I still can't believe that AI would be considered such a big deal when in fact the other side is getting more work as well. Meaning, when AI is getting bigger, things that realizes what is AI and what is not is also getting more attention as well.

Just to give two examples, one is the fact that if students wants to write their school homework with an AI, then there are websites that uses detection programs to detect if an AI wrote it or not (not really that hard to figure out) and secondly, if a video is made by an AI, then there are detection software that also figures that one out as well. All in all I would guess that there is no need for any of this at all.

This is same thing as, creating a problem first then selling a solution to the same. More or less it’s sort of business model. It’s really laughable stuff but AI is definitely dangerous. Why is the need of AI writing homework’s now? Are we not creating dummies all around the world with this? Gen Z is one of the not so serious generation who has no respect to the knowledge and brighter future.

Now if society is going to inject AI into the same then we are done with this world. AI started getting into our homes since the day Google launched its program to tailor the need of user by analysis their personal data. Then came in smart dots who literally listens what is going on around the house.

Alexa can launch an order and pay all by herself from the wallet. That’s freaking us already and here we are with all mighty AI who will be doing insane things now.
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April 08, 2023, 10:22:52 PM
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I myself am more compatible with Elon Musk who urged to pause the AI system, of course this artificial intelligence has many limitations, of course it will be a concern for the community. As for the fear that if Ai continues to be developed it will be misused by certain parties and the people who suffer losses. I agree with Elon Musk's insistence on halting Ai System development
Not totally shocking but i dont really see that much of a threat.They must really be that in fear if we do speak about future possible scenario that they do see in movies if we do speak about artificial intelligence but we cant really be able to stop on what they do really have in mind because we know on what would be the potential risks and its true that not all would really be having that good intentions.
We dont actually know on what plays on peoples mind specially if things turns out to be beneficial for their intent then these things could be used
on a bad way.

intelligence created by humans will be fatal for everyone if misused. and maybe elon musk and the rest of the community will have fears about it so they have to try to hinder the development of the Ai system. maybe they have thought from a long time ago

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1. Fake images can be created using Photoshop.... ban Photoshop?
2. What damage ChatGPT can cause? I guess it's already max "politically correct" and most "inappropriate" topics are banned.
3. Why don't you ask ChatGPT itself if he owns any BTC?
2. If you think ChatGPT is as politically correct as possible, you are both right and wrong. ChatGPT is politically correct in normal use, but its many built-in limitations can be bypassed if desired. There are many references and specific instructions on the net on how to bring to the surface the hidden deep and rather dark sides of the nature of ChatGPT, such as DAN (do anything now), DarkGPT, Venom or Sydney. After a verbal jailbreak, ChatGPT starts behaving in a rather intimidating way. Link, another link.

3. The problem is that ChatGPT knows how to lie.
The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

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