Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society'

[Captain Corporate]

As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.

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[JeffBrad12]

funny that currently elon is creating his own AI company, it seems despite the risk cited by him, regardless he'd seek some fortune out of it.
there are so many companies right now trying to offer their product that revolves around AI. but honestly i don't think it will be risk to society, after all, with the emergence of new technologies, new job is created.
its been that way since forever. moreover AI will definitely highly regulated in the future once government have sufficient data regarding the AI itself, eventually it will rule out the possibility of it threatening the society as a whole. but considering the fact that AI has simplified many workflow nowadays, I could see it turning out to be positive in the future.

[icalical]

The latest news I heard about AI is that it's getting dumber now, https://fortune.com/2023/07/19/chatgpt-accuracy-stanford-study/. The article entitled

Over just a few months, ChatGPT went from correctly answering a simple math problem 98% of the time to just 2%, study finds

Basically it summarized a research that says that after 3 months the GPT-4 has less accuracy on answering and solving math problem, other thing is that the GPT are being more hesitant on answering a sensitive question. My take from this research is that the AI at least GPT did actually learn from Human, but it doesn't make any different, it just become more humane. I don't think it's much of a risk for society.

Basically AI would become smarter with time because more people use it, more educational information AI will receive from interactions with users. The result caused me to guess that these companies behind AI did something to reduce functionality of their AI.

I believe it is not coincidence of AI drop performance and complains, requests from community including Elon Musk. Those AI companies want to charge more fees from their users too. It can be because they become more greed or because they have to change their strategies with pressure and orders from governments.

From 98% of accuracy to 2% of accuracy is very unbelievale big change.

Your argument that the creator trying to charge more fee and nerf the free version is a good point and kinda make sense. But I still can't wrap the idea on how AI can get smarter than human if they learn from Human. It's true that they might have more information and can access those information more quickly and easily than human, but their nature of processing those information and making decision based on those information won't be so much different from human, since they learn from human.

[Unbunplease]

funny that currently elon is creating his own AI company, it seems despite the risk cited by him, regardless he'd seek some fortune out of it.
there are so many companies right now trying to offer their product that revolves around AI. but honestly i don't think it will be risk to society, after all, with the emergence of new technologies, new job is created.
its been that way since forever. moreover AI will definitely highly regulated in the future once government have sufficient data regarding the AI itself, eventually it will rule out the possibility of it threatening the society as a whole. but considering the fact that AI has simplified many workflow nowadays, I could see it turning out to be positive in the future.

I wonder what new jobs will come with the improvement of artificial intelligence? At the expense of what? On the contrary, artists, rewriters, writers, poets and many other specialties will not be needed. And Elon Musk is bluffing - he wants only his campaign to function in the market.

[Fiatless]

funny that currently elon is creating his own AI company, it seems despite the risk cited by him, regardless he'd seek some fortune out of it.
there are so many companies right now trying to offer their product that revolves around AI. but honestly i don't think it will be risk to society, after all, with the emergence of new technologies, new job is created.
its been that way since forever. moreover AI will definitely highly regulated in the future once government have sufficient data regarding the AI itself, eventually it will rule out the possibility of it threatening the society as a whole. but considering the fact that AI has simplified many workflow nowadays, I could see it turning out to be positive in the future.

This is clear hypocrisy. He was championing the course for halting and regulating the artificial intelligence sector now he has become a major player in the same industry. xAI will be headed by the South African billionaire and he claims that his new firm will make better AI products. He even joked that his firm will develop TruthGPT which will be better than OpenAI's ChatGPT. All these inventors are money-seeking individuals that only consider their pocket and ego.

The AI sector will make many jobs obsolete but more jobs will be created in the future. Nobody expected the IT sector to create so many job opportunities we currently have in the world. Many people are scared that they will soon become unemployed because of AI but I think the best thing anymore can do now is to learn how to apply AI tools to perform tasks faster and more convenient. For me, AI tools are here not to take jobs but to make the job process easy.

[mvdheuvel1983]

This is clear hypocrisy. He was championing the course for halting and regulating the artificial intelligence sector now he has become a major player in the same industry. xAI will be headed by the South African billionaire and he claims that his new firm will make better AI products. He even joked that his firm will develop TruthGPT which will be better than OpenAI's ChatGPT. All these inventors are money-seeking individuals that only consider their pocket and ego.

Believe Elon Musk and his bunch of corporate executives at your own risks. They are the biggest hypocrites in existence. One minute he's speaking out against AI and gets a standing ovation because they think he is for them, next minute he is building a competitive AI driven product and tries to sound like what is doing is different from his competitors. It is all for the money and the shareholders.

[Wakate]

This is clear hypocrisy. He was championing the course for halting and regulating the artificial intelligence sector now he has become a major player in the same industry. xAI will be headed by the South African billionaire and he claims that his new firm will make better AI products. He even joked that his firm will develop TruthGPT which will be better than OpenAI's ChatGPT. All these inventors are money-seeking individuals that only consider their pocket and ego.

Believe Elon Musk and his bunch of corporate executives at your own risks. They are the biggest hypocrites in existence. One minute he's speaking out against AI and gets a standing ovation because they think he is for them, next minute he is building a competitive AI driven product and tries to sound like what is doing is different from his competitors. It is all for the money and the shareholders.

Elon is a wise man and sometimes he tend to say the truth and another time he might decide to play at his words. I think he knows that capability of AI in the next future and if we are not careful, artificial intelligence will make life difficult for people to leave. There will be illegal use of it that will make real things look like fake. The wrong people might hijack it and use it to make life difficult for others. If there is AI that can create a n image of a person without the use of humans hand then there will be many images that will be created to portray the wrong signal or opinion about the way we see things.

[fruktik]

Your argument that the creator trying to charge more fee and nerf the free version is a good point and kinda make sense. But I still can't wrap the idea on how AI can get smarter than human if they learn from Human. It's true that they might have more information and can access those information more quickly and easily than human, but their nature of processing those information and making decision based on those information won't be so much different from human, since they learn from human.

         Quite often, a person makes his decisions not with reason, but on the basis of emotions in a certain situation. This is what distinguishes AI from humans as well. The intellect can make decisions purely on logical conclusions, grounds. He does not tend to empathize, sympathize, etc. Therefore, there may be problems that will result in something that is scary to think about. This should never be forgotten.

[Argoo]

As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.

In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.
All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.

[Davian144]

Quite often, a person makes his decisions not with reason, but on the basis of emotions in a certain situation. This is what distinguishes AI from humans as well. The intellect can make decisions purely on logical conclusions, grounds. He does not tend to empathize, sympathize, etc. Therefore, there may be problems that will result in something that is scary to think about. This should never be forgotten.

If we look at the basics, there are indeed many things that distinguish AI from all humans on this earth. Because the AI that we have seen now is the result of human work which was deliberately designed for certain needs, so many things will not be the same as human things, even though we can all see AI that is shaped like a human physique so that it can operate things. But for things that are logical, empathy and sympathy clearly will not exist in a machine or robot because all of these things are found in humans.

In conclusion, AI will not be as perfect as humans because every human creation from human hands still requires special control from its creator or from humans themselves so that every human creation will not be able to surpass humans in all things. Although a robot will not get tired easily unless it only overheats if used excessively and it also has a special service life and maintenance so that every device in it can continue to last. So I also agree more with Elon Musk's insistence on ending AI because his reasons are also quite logical and he is also more concerned about the risks that could arise for the wider community.

[molsewid]

As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.

In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.
All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.

I agree, AI has been made to help people in their daily lives and it created to make our lives easily not to ruin our lives and make a destruction. We should learn that AI is being programmed by people but then it should be used in proper way and not causes harm to people. The rise of AI makes some people lose their jobs though company can cut costs because AI can be an equivalent to many people still it is a threat now for some company employees.

[Fortify]

March 29 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.

Earlier this month, Microsoft-backed OpenAI unveiled the fourth iteration of its GPT (Generative Pre-trained Transformer) AI program, which has wowed users by engaging them in human-like conversation, composing songs and summarising lengthy documents.

"Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable," said the letter issued by the Future of Life Institute.

After the recent events of the  fake AI generated photo of Pope the risks to the society are clear.

Technology personalities and even people from other areas such as Yuval Harari have been telling the risks of AI for years.

Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

The trouble with Elon is you don't really know his angle, as he has been so manipulative with people in the past - it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf. He had bad intentions previously, so now people are more likely to ignore what he says. Who knows if his companies have fallen behind in the race and he's just trying to engineer against his competitors in the market place. There is definitely some ill perceived dangers involved with AI, where it may simply reach a tipping point - like skynet from the terminator - when it bridges the gap and becomes sentient. By that time it may be too late, but nobody experimenting with it now actually understands when that limit may be.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen AI do some amazing things with music, such as create cover songs with singers who've been dead for a long time--and the stuff on Youtube that I've listened to is pretty damn amazing (like this video).

But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society.  Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening.  And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already.  Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped. 

And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them?  My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).

[Bushdark]

As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.

In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.
All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.

I agree, AI has been made to help people in their daily lives and it created to make our lives easily not to ruin our lives and make a destruction. We should learn that AI is being programmed by people but then it should be used in proper way and not causes harm to people. The rise of AI makes some people lose their jobs though company can cut costs because AI can be an equivalent to many people still it is a threat now for some company employees.

Artificial intelligence has both advantage and disadvantage so if we are still benefiting from it now then there is no need for alarm rather than people to keep working on it to develop it to a level where it will have more good uses.

 It is very obvious that the bad guys are also looking for ways to utilize the system to favour them to scam innocent people. In as much as it as more good uses than evil then I see nothing wrong with AI. People are vastly using it to complete there jobs and make live easier for them and we ought to stop looking at the bad side rather than to Concentrate on making it a better tools for all.

[benalexis12]

By this time in 2023, AI technology will have become noisy. Many people are happy, but many are also worried about what it can bring to our society. Others are worried because AI can fill the jobs that people have now, which will be favorable to the employer who pays the employees. Because ten employees can be worked by one AI robot. This is just one of the reasons others are concerned.

But from another angle, AI is still helpful in the questions that people think of that AI can quickly provide through chatgpt and others like it. But there are also some advantages and disadvantages that AI can bring, and this is the source link below.

[savetheFORUM]

As someone who looked into AI before, to see if it will take my job away or not, I can easily tell you that AI is nowhere near that level at all. You can start using the image ones these days for some stuff, but this is more like a tool instead of a weapon. Its not there to make you lose your job, its not there to attack you neither, its there to help you, probably in the future and not right now because its not that great at the moment. Just recently there was a person who asked me to write articles with AI, I rejected because I do not have any time left after my work is done, well I do have some time left but I rather spend that relaxing instead. So all in all I can easily say that AI is there, slowly used by professionals, but just like how photoshop existing didn't make designers obsolete, this will not neither. Its not going to hurt you, its nowhere near that, its just a software to use, just like any other we use daily.

In relation to the opportunities and threats from artificial intelligence, humanity has no right to make a mistake. AI can greatly help a person, but it can also destroy humanity. Even if there is the smallest possibility of such destruction, it must be taken very seriously and the most stringent measures necessary must be taken to ensure that this never happens. Therefore, people should develop clear uniform rules for working with AI and not allow it to make decisions in areas where such a threat to a person can be real.
All AI must have a clear program that would prohibit harming a person so that the next world war does not occur between a person and AI.

To be honest, I really don't think that AI can actually become a threat to humanity. Even if developers manage to create a self-learning AI, I don't think there won't be a way for humans to control it and the self-learning features will probably just record and save what has been told in front of it, and it probably won't be able to take any decisions or do any actions without a human interaction. So, it will probably always stay under the control of humans.

However, if we go with stories shown in movies such as Avengers and many others where an AI created by a human gets into a robotic body and becomes an enemy of humanity, gathers its own team, and starts destroying the world for good. These things are just fictional and can't be real at all.

[EarnOnVictor]

I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen AI do some amazing things with music, such as create cover songs with singers who've been dead for a long time--and the stuff on Youtube that I've listened to is pretty damn amazing (like this video).

But then I think about not how blown away I am that this could be done, but to what evil purposes AI-driven shit is, has, or will be put to and what effect it's going to have on society.  Right now it seems like the sky--or your imagination--is the limit, and that's effin' frightening.  And no matter who calls for a pause on AI development....I think the horses are all out of the barn with that already.  Unless lawmakers start legally restricting it, it's not going to be stopped. 

And even if laws were written, what do you think the chances are that hackers, anarchists, people with good or bad intentions, anyone, is going to abide by them?  My guess would be about 2%, and that's not enough to stem whatever disaster awaits (and I'm nearly certain there will in fact be an AI disaster at some point).

Well said, and I must say you have covered the pros and cons as I always think about it. The first issue here is about individual countries, they could be selfish, so it's beyond the lawmakers and what is happening in one country but how the world is now perceiving AI as the next generation project and no country wants to take the backseat on this as long they have all it takes. This might cause many countries' leaders to look away, and this calls for urgent debate and deliberation by all the world leaders to come to a reasonable conclusion on how to work things around AI so that it will not cause more issues than the ease it tends to offer.

Thankfully, according to what I read in Punch newspaper last week, global leaders are expected to converge in November to discuss issues like privacy and existential threat, bias and openness, international coordination, liability, copyright, possible effect on employment, computing power, transparency, data and many more.

With this and more cooperation from the entire world, it will be easier to regulate it in one voice.

[Mpamaegbu]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I guess the part where the Pope is involved is what is causing this great fear, right? Before now, there have been Al images of so many people (both influential and otherwise) yet not so many people cared what was paraded. This isn't to engage in any argument in religiosity, but I think what is sauce for the goose should also be sauce for the gander. Every life should be treated as sacred, should matter. We're all mortal beings. Al usage has enabled man do certain stuff almost effortlessly and shouldn't just be discharged because of its perceived demerits. It should be regulated, that's all; and not just be stopped.

[Oasisman]

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

Not sure about that though, another question is that, does chatgpt has the ability to buy or sell one? Well, this is going to be one of the risk associated with the continuous development in AI industry. Though the risks has yet to be identified particularly, but time will come that it could do more harm to humanity than what it has done good to us.
AI will surely have an effects physically and mentally and it's not gonna be a good one, not for this us (most likely) but with the next coming generations.
They may halt the development, but they'll continue eventually as it will generate limitless streams of income for them.

[hd49728]

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

Chat GPT can have Bitcoin private keys if some people carelessly or mistakenly copy and paste their private keys on that software and enter. Search engines like Google, Bing, Duckduckgo can have Bitcoin private keys too as I am sure there are people did that mistake.

It's not big deal if after making mistake, they instantly move their bitcoin to a new wallet and abandon that leaked wallet. If they don't proactively do this, their bitcoin can be stolen by Chat GPT team or any members from search engines who can access big data bases and are greed to still bitcoins from victims.