Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society'

[Unbunplease]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

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[Silberman]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

It will be almost impossible for governments to stop this, as on one hand they want the development to continue as it is not difficult for politicians to understand the power this will bring to them, but on the other hand they also understand the possible repercussions such technology could bring, however similar concerns were raised with the development of PGP and the US government even tried to put the creator on trial but the charges were later dropped, and I suppose we could witness something similar when it comes to AI.

[TheGreatPython]

No one is saying that AI development should be stopped. Elon Musk is trying to draw the attention of mankind to the threat that AI poses to people if it continues to develop uncontrollably. You must first take measures to eliminate the risk of harm to a person and constantly keep it under control.
In Musk's address, there are four main questions that humanity should ask itself:

• "Should we allow machines to flood our information channels with propaganda and lies?"
• "Should we let machines do all the work, including that which brings people pleasure?"
• "Should we develop a mind of non-human origin, which in the future may surpass us in numbers and intellectual abilities, make us inferior and replace us?"
• "Should we risk losing control of our civilization?"

In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Humanity is not worth the risk. After all, all previous human civilizations on our planet disappeared precisely because of the development of technological progress.

There are people who are scared and already been affected by the AI and these people are now wishing for it to stop but for some who are benefiting with it, they want it to continue and see more developments. Lies are only a bad thing so this must be prevented. It's also wrong to let all the machines do the work because they are not perfect and what if there will be errors that will be experienced? That can cause a lot of troubles.

AIs can't totally replace us humans because we still control them and we can stop them anytime. Lastly, Previous civilizations have disappeared for other reasons and not because of the technology and there are still no AIs that time.

[iv4n]

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AIs can't totally replace us humans because we still control them and we can stop them anytime. Lastly, Previous civilizations have disappeared for other reasons and not because of the technology and there are still no AIs that time.

But we have all seen the movies, everything starts out quite harmless until it turns into something very dangerous. A good ground for creating theory conspiracies, and this is just the beginning. The entire hype around AI is crazy, and with so many "experts" around we have so many different angles, so I don't have the slightest clue what will happen in the upcoming years. Will AI progress or will this hype die out like some others... I guess there are good chances for both things to happen. Simply people give too many credits, something we usually see in every hype. But what people wish and wrote about is different from reality.

[Smartprofit]

Yes, in my opinion, the threat to humanity from neural networks is quite real. 

Artificial intelligence is real intelligence.  Yes, this mind is not human, but this does not make it less dangerous for people. 

At one time, the American science fiction writer Isaac Asimov described the three laws of robotics.  These three laws underlay the positronic brain of all robots and provided for a strict ban on the robot causing any harm to a person.  At the same time, Isaac Asimov described situations where attackers managed to get around the three basic laws of robotics. 

As for modern neural networks (for example, based on the GPT-4 algorithm), they have no prohibitions and restrictions on harming a person. 

They are trying to introduce such prohibitions and restrictions, but it is already clear that their development and implementation does not keep pace with the development of artificial intelligence technology.

[Unbunplease]

AIs can't totally replace us humans because we still control them and we can stop them anytime. Lastly, Previous civilizations have disappeared for other reasons and not because of the technology and there are still no AIs that time.

I think that after a while robots will begin to reproduce themselves, repair themselves, and produce everything necessary for their existence. So "can't replace yet" doesn't mean "can't replace at all". Progress is going too fast, and things are changing rapidly.

[slapper]

Yes, in my opinion, the threat to humanity from neural networks is quite real. 

Artificial intelligence is real intelligence.  Yes, this mind is not human, but this does not make it less dangerous for people. 

At one time, the American science fiction writer Isaac Asimov described the three laws of robotics.  These three laws underlay the positronic brain of all robots and provided for a strict ban on the robot causing any harm to a person.  At the same time, Isaac Asimov described situations where attackers managed to get around the three basic laws of robotics. 

As for modern neural networks (for example, based on the GPT-4 algorithm), they have no prohibitions and restrictions on harming a person. 

They are trying to introduce such prohibitions and restrictions, but it is already clear that their development and implementation does not keep pace with the development of artificial intelligence technology.

The neural network menace to humanity, folks, it's a contentious concept that's got everyone on their toes. Tech's moving forward, and so are the ethical conundrums tagging along. Time to scrutinize the accountability of tech creators and the possible fallout.

Philosophically speaking, we gotta ask ourselves if it's kosher to whip up a mind without boundaries or limits. Are we overstepping by playing deity, creating an entity that might wreak havoc?

Recall sci-fi classics, like Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" – designed to stop robots from hurting humans. But with today's neural networks, no such safeguards exist. We're left with a hair-raising, teeth-clenching situation where our very survival is on the line.

[Silberman]

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AIs can't totally replace us humans because we still control them and we can stop them anytime. Lastly, Previous civilizations have disappeared for other reasons and not because of the technology and there are still no AIs that time.

But we have all seen the movies, everything starts out quite harmless until it turns into something very dangerous. A good ground for creating theory conspiracies, and this is just the beginning. The entire hype around AI is crazy, and with so many "experts" around we have so many different angles, so I don't have the slightest clue what will happen in the upcoming years. Will AI progress or will this hype die out like some others... I guess there are good chances for both things to happen. Simply people give too many credits, something we usually see in every hype. But what people wish and wrote about is different from reality.

We are still far away from those scenarios, the AI we are currently using is very dumb, by this I mean that it has no consciousness of itself or anything like that, it can perform very complex tasks but it cannot do nothing which threaten us, if anything chatgpt just saves you a few seconds, as you could obtain the same information with a fast internet search and it is nowhere near the level in which it can threaten the existence of humans as the dominant species on the planet.

[fillippone]

Don't listen to what Elon Musk says, look at what Elon Musk does:

Elon Musk quietly starts X.AI, a new artificial intelligence company to challenge OpenAI

Elon Musk is preparing to launch a new artificial intelligence (AI) startup, X.AI, that will compete directly with OpenAI, according to a bombshell report published by the Wall Street Journal on Friday.

More info in this paywalled article by the WSJ (paywall removed by yours truly), where they remind us that Elon Musk was an early investor in OpenAI.

[GigaBit]

New invention of science is beneficial but it depends on proper use. AI has made the work of users much easier today. Again, using this same AI, people are also doing various prohibited activities. Although there are good comments about this AI at present, It is definitely beneficial for mankind. It can also play a leading role in creating chaos in the society. It is difficult to say which photo is made by AI and which is the original. In the case of a respectable person in the society, if he is accused of anything by a fake picture created by AI, it can create a huge havoc in the society. Considering the negative and positive aspects, the scope and advantages of AI should be increased.

[vv181]

Yes, in my opinion, the threat to humanity from neural networks is quite real. 

Artificial intelligence is real intelligence.  Yes, this mind is not human, but this does not make it less dangerous for people. 

As for modern neural networks (for example, based on the GPT-4 algorithm), they have no prohibitions and restrictions on harming a person. 

They are trying to introduce such prohibitions and restrictions, but it is already clear that their development and implementation does not keep pace with the development of artificial intelligence technology.

The neural network menace to humanity, folks, it's a contentious concept that's got everyone on their toes. Tech's moving forward, and so are the ethical conundrums tagging along. Time to scrutinize the accountability of tech creators and the possible fallout.

Philosophically speaking, we gotta ask ourselves if it's kosher to whip up a mind without boundaries or limits. Are we overstepping by playing deity, creating an entity that might wreak havoc?

Wow, should we also call munition is a menace since it has been proven to harm or destroy society and civilization? What is our attempt to obliterate or stop it?

Both of your take on it is simply absurd. A centralized ChatGPT is censorable and prohibition or restriction can be set, you are assuming the current AI technologies are godlike, which is not the case. You are saying intelligence as we truly understand and comprehend the concept of intelligence thus we are able to replicate it for our creation, but this is also not the case.

[Argoo]

Yes, in my opinion, the threat to humanity from neural networks is quite real. 

Artificial intelligence is real intelligence.  Yes, this mind is not human, but this does not make it less dangerous for people. 

As for modern neural networks (for example, based on the GPT-4 algorithm), they have no prohibitions and restrictions on harming a person. 

They are trying to introduce such prohibitions and restrictions, but it is already clear that their development and implementation does not keep pace with the development of artificial intelligence technology.

The neural network menace to humanity, folks, it's a contentious concept that's got everyone on their toes. Tech's moving forward, and so are the ethical conundrums tagging along. Time to scrutinize the accountability of tech creators and the possible fallout.

Philosophically speaking, we gotta ask ourselves if it's kosher to whip up a mind without boundaries or limits. Are we overstepping by playing deity, creating an entity that might wreak havoc?

Wow, should we also call munition is a menace since it has been proven to harm or destroy society and civilization? What is our attempt to obliterate or stop it?

Both of your take on it is simply absurd. A centralized ChatGPT is censorable and prohibition or restriction can be set, you are assuming the current AI technologies are godlike, which is not the case. You are saying intelligence as we truly understand and comprehend the concept of intelligence thus we are able to replicate it for our creation, but this is also not the case.

By continuing to develop artificial intelligence, humanity is opening a Pandora's box, as AI will definitely try to destroy humanity in the end. Even today's primitive robots are already saying that from their point of view, man is imperfect and must be destroyed. What more evidence is needed here that AI should be kept within very strict limits and not allowed to make decisions in the military and other global industries? But as always, there will be mistakes and abuses, and our civilization will end for this, or some other similar reason. Man, being self-confident and stupid, who does not learn from his past mistakes.

[Sayeds56]

The fear towards artificial intelligence, in my opinion, it is understandable.
A few years ago getting these kind of deep fakes was matter of science fiction, also the way now people can prompt a machine to make images for them from text looks like something out of a sci-fi movie from the 2000s.

People with bad intentions could use these tools for extremely convincing misinformation campaigns, to incite other into violence and influence over society. No mention how this will likely transform the relation between humankind and labor in the long term.

These are valid concerns and apprehension of many people who are afraid that AI technology can be misused for malicious purposes. The rapid technological advancement in AI has also created deep fake  and convincing tools those can create manipulative content.

In order to address these issues, society need to behave responsibly and governments need to work towards making appropriate regulation to maintain ethical and moral values of the society.

[Cookdata]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

When there is a rule that guides an environment, then we should expect a high level of abuse by people in that area, that is exactly what is surrounding AI use but Elon calling for a break is like using a switch pox to stop a creativity. AI is another level of niche that people are making money from and also helping people reduce their workload, I think embedding laws and policies will regulate and reduce the way it is been used, it will also improve and create room for development if that should happen instead calling for total scratch, that will kill a lot of dreams.

I don't know why Elon get to do a lot of calls recently, Being a leading company CEO and the world's richest is sealed oxygen, when expose to air, it will evaporate under high temperature, I believe very soon, there will come a new person that will attract lots of people to his system and amass wealth to take over, Bezoz, Bill gate have all tasted that wealth and where are they now, they have all calm because power is transient.

[NotATether]

The fear towards artificial intelligence, in my opinion, it is understandable.
A few years ago getting these kind of deep fakes was matter of science fiction, also the way now people can prompt a machine to make images for them from text looks like something out of a sci-fi movie from the 2000s.

People with bad intentions could use these tools for extremely convincing misinformation campaigns, to incite other into violence and influence over society. No mention how this will likely transform the relation between humankind and labor in the long term.

These are valid concerns and apprehension of many people who are afraid that AI technology can be misused for malicious purposes. The rapid technological advancement in AI has also created deep fake  and convincing tools those can create manipulative content.

In order to address these society need to behave responsibly and governments need to work towards making appropriate regulation to maintain ethical and moral values of the society.

> Calls on everyone to stop creating more advanced AI models in order to avert catastrophic 'risks to society' from armed Terminator-style robots

> Creates his own AI company to catch up to ChatGPT

Yeah, I'm not having it. It seems to him that pausing AI development should only apply to other companies, so that he doesn't have to play catch-up with everyone else. I guess that's what happens when you arrive so late in the field.

[RockBell]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

The only thing that can happen in this case is a situation, the collaboration between the government and private sector on issues like this is actually a very risky one, the only thing I can advise is that the government should be in full control of programs. private organization having control of such tech can be a threat to the government and society, and also the functionality of the tech also matters, there are techs that are a great help to humanity, even in the health sector in China they use tech to perform surgery and also in restaurants projects like that can be considered, once the functionality is examined they it can be approved or licensed.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

I can remember in some movies where private organization research and projects will later become a threat to the people, I think there is an organization in the government that is put in place just to inspect anything concerning tech, and we really need to start slowing down in this aspect of tech, since the era is changing to that of tech, a lot of people are losing their jobs since technology is already replacing people and cutting cost on labor.

There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence

Don know are true this is, about the government not having, bodies to restrict some particular project? and if bodies like that don't exist then polices should be initiated.

[icalical]

The latest news I heard about AI is that it's getting dumber now, https://fortune.com/2023/07/19/chatgpt-accuracy-stanford-study/. The article entitled

Over just a few months, ChatGPT went from correctly answering a simple math problem 98% of the time to just 2%, study finds

Basically it summarized a research that says that after 3 months the GPT-4 has less accuracy on answering and solving math problem, other thing is that the GPT are being more hesitant on answering a sensitive question. My take from this research is that the AI at least GPT did actually learn from Human, but it doesn't make any different, it just become more humane. I don't think it's much of a risk for society.

[hd49728]

The latest news I heard about AI is that it's getting dumber now, https://fortune.com/2023/07/19/chatgpt-accuracy-stanford-study/. The article entitled

Over just a few months, ChatGPT went from correctly answering a simple math problem 98% of the time to just 2%, study finds

Basically it summarized a research that says that after 3 months the GPT-4 has less accuracy on answering and solving math problem, other thing is that the GPT are being more hesitant on answering a sensitive question. My take from this research is that the AI at least GPT did actually learn from Human, but it doesn't make any different, it just become more humane. I don't think it's much of a risk for society.

Basically AI would become smarter with time because more people use it, more educational information AI will receive from interactions with users. The result caused me to guess that these companies behind AI did something to reduce functionality of their AI.

I believe it is not coincidence of AI drop performance and complains, requests from community including Elon Musk. Those AI companies want to charge more fees from their users too. It can be because they become more greed or because they have to change their strategies with pressure and orders from governments.

From 98% of accuracy to 2% of accuracy is very unbelievale big change.

[vv181]

Yes, in my opinion, the threat to humanity from neural networks is quite real. 

Artificial intelligence is real intelligence.  Yes, this mind is not human, but this does not make it less dangerous for people. 

As for modern neural networks (for example, based on the GPT-4 algorithm), they have no prohibitions and restrictions on harming a person. 

They are trying to introduce such prohibitions and restrictions, but it is already clear that their development and implementation does not keep pace with the development of artificial intelligence technology.

The neural network menace to humanity, folks, it's a contentious concept that's got everyone on their toes. Tech's moving forward, and so are the ethical conundrums tagging along. Time to scrutinize the accountability of tech creators and the possible fallout.

Philosophically speaking, we gotta ask ourselves if it's kosher to whip up a mind without boundaries or limits. Are we overstepping by playing deity, creating an entity that might wreak havoc?

Wow, should we also call munition is a menace since it has been proven to harm or destroy society and civilization? What is our attempt to obliterate or stop it?

Both of your take on it is simply absurd. A centralized ChatGPT is censorable and prohibition or restriction can be set, you are assuming the current AI technologies are godlike, which is not the case. You are saying intelligence as we truly understand and comprehend the concept of intelligence thus we are able to replicate it for our creation, but this is also not the case.

By continuing to develop artificial intelligence, humanity is opening a Pandora's box, as AI will definitely try to destroy humanity in the end. Even today's primitive robots are already saying that from their point of view, man is imperfect and must be destroyed. What more evidence is needed here that AI should be kept within very strict limits and not allowed to make decisions in the military and other global industries? But as always, there will be mistakes and abuses, and our civilization will end for this, or some other similar reason. Man, being self-confident and stupid, who does not learn from his past mistakes.

Again, that is also an absurd take. What a baseless and unfounded claim, and you do even use words like "definitely" and "destroy" to make it more ridiculous. Here is the thing, stop taking science fiction as truth.

Certainly, "primitive" robots did not have a point of view. Even the current ChatGPT or any other Large Language Model products are architecturally incapable of reasoning. It is more likely the one who is self-confident and stupid is definitely you.

[slapper]

The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

When there is a rule that guides an environment, then we should expect a high level of abuse by people in that area, that is exactly what is surrounding AI use but Elon calling for a break is like using a switch pox to stop a creativity. AI is another level of niche that people are making money from and also helping people reduce their workload, I think embedding laws and policies will regulate and reduce the way it is been used, it will also improve and create room for development if that should happen instead calling for total scratch, that will kill a lot of dreams.

I don't know why Elon get to do a lot of calls recently, Being a leading company CEO and the world's richest is sealed oxygen, when expose to air, it will evaporate under high temperature, I believe very soon, there will come a new person that will attract lots of people to his system and amass wealth to take over, Bezoz, Bill gate have all tasted that wealth and where are they now, they have all calm because power is transient.

Here we go again with "Billionaire Showdown." Elon appears to take pleasure in causing contention with his frequent dispatches, no? Is he right to be worried about the potential misuse of AI? Perhaps. But to imply a complete stoppage of something traveling at the speed of light is just Elon being Elon. Yes, there should be safeguards for AI, but it doesn't mean we should turn it off totally. AI is opening up new avenues for creativity and productivity, not just making money. The use of AI should be governed by strict ethical principles. That's a debate we should have. I get what you're saying about Elon being everywhere. The "richest man" title is quite the spotlight, and being in the spotlight may be very alluring. But keep in mind that time and tide wait for no man, or billionaire for that matter. Many wealthy tycoons have come and gone throughout history.