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March 31, 2023, 11:04:58 AM Last edit: April 12, 2023, 01:22:12 PM by bdcm |
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What is Bidcent?Bidcent is a peer to peer blockchain game that competes two teams in their bid amount. Players can bid on any team to participate and can also bid on the opposite team any time of the game. After the bid total of both teams exceed the minimum bid total, a countdown timer will start. Every new bid resets the timer. When the the timer goes to 0, the team that has the most bid value wins the game and gain all the bid value of the opposite team. The amount shall be divided in proportion to how much they bid in the winning team. DecentralizedBidcent uses blockchain to store transactions, take bids and process payouts. As such anyone can get the updated game variables, make a bid and participate in the game without restriction nor manipulation from a centralised party. Payout is a fixed process done through an immutable smart contract function which takes no parameter. SafeBidcent has published a verified smart contract and can be audited by the public. Smart contract is immutable and cannot be changed after being deployed. All deposits belong to the respective owners and no other person can withdraw or make bids without the wallet key. Players can choose to cashout their own winnings should they win the game. Players are in control of their funds. UncheatableBidcent is an uncheatable game free from centralized manipulation. Game variables which decide the outcome such as countdown time, fee and min bid total are fixed throughout the game and cannot be changed until the next game. When the server crashes, players can get the updated game variables, make bids and cashout the winnings themselves. https://bidcent.org
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KiaKia
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March 31, 2023, 11:50:53 AM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
Decentralized gaming platforms are the hardest to trust, the platform might not be regulated or have the access to open the business, meaning running illegally, also this platform has zero reputation and nothing about reputation have been built yet on this forum.
For example, where is the link to Bidcent's announcement thread? Words are never enough to make people have your back, your actions should speak louder than these empty words.
Please adjust, do create an ANN thread
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Hirose UK
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March 31, 2023, 02:50:54 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I understand you that all casinos are owned by someone and still have a centralized percentage of manipulation because someone controls it behind the scenes. This is the same as crypto and crypto which are still focused on someone, so the price will be easily played on the market. Everything that is still centralized does have a percentage manipulated and I believe in this only if the gambling platform is already at the top and has a large income they will not manipulate it because it can affect the reputation and glory that has been obtained.
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March 31, 2023, 03:23:41 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I don't see this to be free for manipulation also when they could just bid every time so the more coins they have the higher thier chance to win. They'd just keep resetting the timer to 0 until finally the other team dries out. But I wonder how this plays out. It's too new to see more results. No one trusts new websites for a game though so it will take time or this Bidcent will be forgotten too.
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CryptSafe
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April 04, 2023, 08:58:01 PM |
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Welcome onboard bitcointalk platform OP. It is nice having you here. This platform is open to welcoming new inovations and ideas. I tried accessing your website so I can do a review on it after much activities so as to have a little experience from your website but it was not accessible from my end. Do you have restrictions on countries from accessing your website? If yes, may I know the list of the countries involved and secondly I believe you are the sole representative of your organization here what you are doing here is more of an advertorial job on behalf of your organization so I would advise you to take out time to read through the forum policies so as to know how to navigate through.
It would be for your own best interest to get registered for a copper member account so you could be able to make pictorial excerpts of your game board here for members to see as that is your catching and selling point not just this write up you have done. As you can see, since you made this post the response was poor due to poor advertisement and publicity as nobody would waste their time reading all these you have written.
I will assume this to be your official announcement thread of your presence here on this platform and also I will advise you to seek the expertise of a good reputable signature campaign manager @Royse777 to promote your product which will give you a good boast.
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bdcm (OP)
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April 05, 2023, 06:21:19 PM |
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Bidcent is a peer to peer financial battle game. It uses smart contract to process transactions and decide the outcome of the game. Thus it is decentralized.
The website is accesible.
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klidex
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April 05, 2023, 08:33:27 PM |
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Very simple website with nothing interesting to try. Sorry Op I say this because these are criticisms and suggestions for the progress of your site and you need to consider. So your website design is very classic without any color mix or anything to catch the attention of your customers. What's really unfortunate is that your site only accepts binance for activities. Even though most people here are more accustomed to using bitcoin.
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April 07, 2023, 12:47:27 PM |
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if i see this game is easy to understand but still have doubts haven't tried , i think you need to prepare a special demo for coin testnet so that people can test the game and test how your smart contract works , the site doesn't look cool but for a start there is no problem , I will be monitoring the thread to see any feedback or updates from your site's gameplay. I hope the OP will take well any input and criticism from all forum communities
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Trade on the go. Anywhere, anytime.
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April 07, 2023, 01:11:03 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I don't see this to be free for manipulation also when they could just bid every time so the more coins they have the higher thier chance to win. They'd just keep resetting the timer to 0 until finally the other team dries out. But I wonder how this plays out. It's too new to see more results. No one trusts new websites for a game though so it will take time or this Bidcent will be forgotten too. This is not the first "financial battle" game on the forum, we had similar projects in the past, but none of them survived. I guess it's not about the site, it's about how someone with a really deep pocket can manipulate this game and win all the time, even if 10-20 people gather against him. It's why this game is not so interesting for playing, especially for players from the forum who understand the concept of this game.
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April 07, 2023, 01:32:16 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I don't see this to be free for manipulation also when they could just bid every time so the more coins they have the higher thier chance to win. They'd just keep resetting the timer to 0 until finally the other team dries out. But I wonder how this plays out. It's too new to see more results. No one trusts new websites for a game though so it will take time or this Bidcent will be forgotten too. This is not the first "financial battle" game on the forum, we had similar projects in the past, but none of them survived. I guess it's not about the site, it's about how someone with a really deep pocket can manipulate this game and win all the time, even if 10-20 people gather against him. It's why this game is not so interesting for playing, especially for players from the forum who understand the concept of this game. Basing up on the game concept then it would really be real battle on how deep is your pockets which means and i do agree that it is really that prone to manipulation on someone who does have that deep pocket. Resetting the time to zero whenever there's a deposit then it would be a long time battle or making out that piling up the amount.Its true that this isnt the first time we do see this kind of idea on which its true that most or all of them died along the way because they didnt really get any players on playing or making out that bet because they do really know on what are the tendencies or chances that they can really be manipulated and ending up on non-fair way result which we dont really like for it to happen.
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April 07, 2023, 01:41:03 PM |
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In all that the op said, I can't find a place where he made mention of how the platform benefit from this, are there internal fees (outside blockchain transaction fees) to place this bids? If yes, where does this fees go to?
Probably this is a new gaming platform and the owners will have a log of work to do if this must flourish, the idea behind the game is awesome, but this won't bring users..
@op, if this platform belongs to you, then you have alot of work to do if you are really serious with this project. First, this is not an Ann, you need a proper Announcement thread to begin with, this is how you begin to build reputation, then secondly, if the platform is really ready to handle lots of users, the promotion and marketing comes in, you might decide to run a signature campaign on this forum, which I believe is the best in terms of funds management. Consider doing things the right way, and watch your game platform begin to grow.
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April 07, 2023, 02:02:48 PM |
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- Isn't saying centralized it's closer to manipulation? Then if it's a battle arena type it's obviously PVP games, right? I'm just not sure if the crypto gambling community will claim it here.
But of course, we also know that most casinos here in the crypto space are also under centralized when it asks for kyc from each of their players on their gambling platform.
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April 07, 2023, 02:12:55 PM |
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just my suggestions... but the interface is too essential and I didn't find a detailed guide... why not provide some tutorials or provide a youtube video that explains how to use it? moreover, why not launch some free campaign for bitcointalk users so we can make our tour on the site and understand better how to use it?
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April 07, 2023, 02:48:02 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I don't see this to be free for manipulation also when they could just bid every time so the more coins they have the higher thier chance to win. They'd just keep resetting the timer to 0 until finally the other team dries out. But I wonder how this plays out. It's too new to see more results. No one trusts new websites for a game though so it will take time or this Bidcent will be forgotten too. This is not the first "financial battle" game on the forum, we had similar projects in the past, but none of them survived. I guess it's not about the site, it's about how someone with a really deep pocket can manipulate this game and win all the time, even if 10-20 people gather against him. It's why this game is not so interesting for playing, especially for players from the forum who understand the concept of this game. Correct, there were some similar sites in the past with the same concept as bidcent and all of them failed to survive. What I can see why all of them failed to survive is that it is not attractive gambling game and no gamblers want to play it. I dont understand why OP is gambling himself by launching his own gambling site with not attractive/not popular games. Perhaps because this game does not require him to spend a lot of money to start as he does not need to provide bankroll.
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Correct, there were some similar sites in the past with the same concept as bidcent and all of them failed to survive. What I can see why all of them failed to survive is that it is not attractive gambling game and no gamblers want to play it. I dont understand why OP is gambling himself by launching his own gambling site with not attractive/not popular games. Perhaps because this game does not require him to spend a lot of money to start as he does not need to provide bankroll.
Two things he is not aware that there were platforms that exist similar to his platform or like what you said trying his luck because it's not costly to maintain a platform like this, I don't think he is that serious about maximizing the promotion of his platform, he is not wearing a copper account and the announcement is not well designed, there's lack of competitiveness and motivation to make this platform popular. And I add this kind of platform should not be in this section because it's contract-based it should be in the altcoin service.
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April 07, 2023, 04:02:10 PM |
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Free from centralized manipulation? Are centralized gaming platforms and decentralized gambling platforms not controlled by humans? So how can you say that it's free from manipulation?
I understand you that all casinos are owned by someone and still have a centralized percentage of manipulation because someone controls it behind the scenes. This is the same as crypto and crypto which are still focused on someone, so the price will be easily played on the market. Everything that is still centralized does have a percentage manipulated and I believe in this only if the gambling platform is already at the top and has a large income they will not manipulate it because it can affect the reputation and glory that has been obtained. No casino can be decentralized in nature, casinos are business firm that are motivated by the profit gotten from it. And someone must control the database to accept deposit and release payout. Probably they were trying to say that it is fair for everyone not free from manipulation. A casino that is free from manipulation is the casino that has no database for programmers and developers to control. Decentralized does not mean that it is totally cut off from human control but the aspect of human control is very minimal.
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Basing up on the game concept then it would really be real battle on how deep is your pockets which means and i do agree that it is really that prone to manipulation on someone who does have that deep pocket.
Resetting the time to zero whenever there's a deposit then it would be a long time battle or making out that piling up the amount.Its true that this isnt the first time we do see this kind of idea on which its true that most or all of them died along the way because they didnt really get any players on playing or making out that bet because they do really know on what are the tendencies or chances that they can really be manipulated and ending up on non-fair way result which we dont really like for it to happen.
It's also a battle of endurance. It says the game counter is 600 seconds, so 10 minutes for each new bid. Let's say your pockets are deep on both sides and you keep bidding, after 10 hours or so you'll both be exhausted. If one of you has an emergency at home, loses Internet connection, falls asleep, they lose. The bigger the stakes the more you'll have to lose and the more you'll be waiting for the last second to see if the opponent outbids you. This could potentially escalate to something like a battle for a 1BTC stake where you both don't sleep for days not to give away that money, and at some point one of you gets a power outage and it's all over.
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bdcm (OP)
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April 07, 2023, 06:46:49 PM |
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Fees are currently 0.3% for every bid. There is no fee for deposits and withdrawals. Additionally, the details of how to play the game can be found in the docs with examples. https://bidcent.org/docs/Players can analyse the game results and see if there is any one with deep pockets before playing. When there are more players, this effect should be minimal as both sides should have players with deep pockets.
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April 07, 2023, 08:13:08 PM |
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Players can analyse the game results and see if there is any one with deep pockets before playing.
But for that to happen there has to be a decent number of games, am I right? Since there isn't yet, some of us will have to be the lab rats that make the results others can later examine. Who's willing to do that? Not me. When there are more players, this effect should be minimal as both sides should have players with deep pockets.
In other words it's you saying: "you better have a lot of money if you want to play my game." Don't expect a lot of traffic.
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April 07, 2023, 09:22:53 PM |
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Good initiative to OP to come out of a game like this, based on what I'm reading on the majority of the post this is not the kind of game that the majority of the gambling community will support, what's your motivation for on launching game like this when there's already sites like this in the past that has failed to generate support in the support. Maybe because the majority of the gambling community is not used to this kind of game. To generate interest why not create video tutorials so people have an idea at a first glimpse of what the site is all about and how to play it.
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