yogg sweeping again - Playtoshi edition

[PreciousMetapsICT]

i wanted to clarify something.
since some users have already written to me about the refunding of the playtoshi edition or also about the history cards...
i personally decided to refund all victims who were scammed on the halving sets.
since that day it was known that yogg is untrustworthy and some here also wrote that you should peel all your other ck-cards too, it is now rather rough negligence that some users still had loaded ck-cards and now have been scammed again by yogg...
the refund of these cards/editions will not be taken over by me anymore

just my 2 sats

I agree! I personally chose not to sweep my playtoshi as it’s load of .001 wasn’t near worth the hundreds of dollars I paid for the set. My only regret is that Yoggs punk ass got that btc… No coldkeys are safe - yoggs gonna get them all.

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[2stout]

i wanted to clarify something.
since some users have already written to me about the refunding of the playtoshi edition or also about the history cards...
i personally decided to refund all victims who were scammed on the halving sets.
since that day it was known that yogg is untrustworthy and some here also wrote that you should peel all your other ck-cards too, it is now rather rough negligence that some users still had loaded ck-cards and now have been scammed again by yogg...
the refund of these cards/editions will not be taken over by me anymore

just my 2 sats

I agree! I personally chose not to sweep my playtoshi as it’s load of .001 wasn’t near worth the hundreds of dollars I paid for the set. My only regret is that Yoggs punk ass got that btc… No coldkeys are safe - yoggs gonna get them all.

Couldn't agree more.  Once the rug pull was announced, onus was on the collector to peel.  Scope should be limited to the halving sets if correct.  I too lost on the Playtoshi but it was a gamble I was willing take, albeit a high risk but stakes were low.

[MoparMiningLLC]

well not necessarily negligence for everyone - a few people had their cards buried or very far away (in other countries in the case of at least one person I know) and could not get to them. But yes, many kept them unpeeled - why? I don't know - being intact probably did not increase value as no buyer in their right mind would consider paying for the load value knowing it could go poof at any moment.

Also, some did not see or even know it was happening until the latest rug - as they were not frequenting the forums.

Does this mean I think you should reimburse any/all who lost due to later sweeping? Not by any means. Just pointing out it was not negligence in all cases.

[cygan]

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Just pointing out it was not negligence in all cases.

negligent was only with the people who are frequenting the forum and therefore have written to me then already

[MoparMiningLLC]

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Just pointing out it was not negligence in all cases.

negligent was only with the people who are frequenting the forum and therefore have written to me then already

agreed.

[YodasRedRocket]

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Just pointing out it was not negligence in all cases.

negligent was only with the people who are frequenting the forum and therefore have written to me then already

Greetings,

I just had a microsoul & sol noctis that were swept & a Titan 2FA that I'm unable to redeem.  Will you please refund me??

hahahaha

[PreciousMetapsICT]

Who would even ask for .001 and who would leave anything more than .001 on a coldkey? Personally everyone should be peeled and redeemed if you aren’t willing to lose the btc - peeling my sole unpeeled Diwali now cuz I don’t want Yogg to have it as he’s a worthless piece of shit! Will happily donate if someone wants to visit him

[krogothmanhattan]

i wanted to clarify something.
since some users have already written to me about the refunding of the playtoshi edition or also about the history cards...
i personally decided to refund all victims who were scammed on the halving sets.
since that day it was known that yogg is untrustworthy and some here also wrote that you should peel all your other ck-cards too, it is now rather rough negligence that some users still had loaded ck-cards and now have been scammed again by yogg...
the refund of these cards/editions will not be taken over by me anymore

just my 2 sats

   I totally agree...for the people that were forewarned and took the chance of not sweeping, then the onus is on them.

   Trust me, as a collector I so wanted to leave my shitkeys intact, but knowing what had happened and what possibly could happen, I swept them all
...took me awhile cutting into the holo with precision and sweeping every card that had BTC on them. To me it was a race against time to make sure this fiend did not get my BTC and I am glad I did.

  The only ones I have still left with BTC are my bonds. I am monitoring the loaded addys to see if they are swept before the locktime arrives.....and it cannot arrive too soon before I sweep every last satoshi from them!

[PreciousMetapsICT]

On April 18th he swept the Diwali edition…. Fucker was planning this for years - check the address

bc1qckqrfwdcykcwvmzqxrg4vuvhs6ty5d2pjjvhw0

He stored the keys for years - - if my losses were bigger - I’d be on a plane. The world isn’t that big. Can get anywhere for a few thousand dollars

[Kryptowerk]

On April 18th he swept the Diwali edition…. Fucker was planning this for years - check the address

bc1qckqrfwdcykcwvmzqxrg4vuvhs6ty5d2pjjvhw0

He stored the keys for years - - if my losses were bigger - I’d be on a plane. The world isn’t that big. Can get anywhere for a few thousand dollars

Not fully familiar with coldcuck product palette - what's a Diwali edition?
Sorry to hear it, hope most people swiped their remaining cards already.

Yes, could be planned, but my guess is he "somehow" kept lots and lots of private keys on different devices and his business structure was a mess in that regard from the beginning. Now, that he decided he really doesn't give a shit anymore, whenever he stumbles upon some keys he just goes ahead and swipes whatever he can grab.
Whichever may be the case, just disgusting.

Thanks for the heads-up, PMICT.

[MoparMiningLLC]

On April 18th he swept the Diwali edition…. Fucker was planning this for years - check the address

bc1qckqrfwdcykcwvmzqxrg4vuvhs6ty5d2pjjvhw0

He stored the keys for years - - if my losses were bigger - I’d be on a plane. The world isn’t that big. Can get anywhere for a few thousand dollars

Not fully familiar with coldcuck product palette - what's a Diwali edition?
Sorry to hear it, hope most people swiped their remaining cards already.

Yes, could be planned, but my guess is he "somehow" kept lots and lots of private keys on different devices and his business structure was a mess in that regard from the beginning. Now, that he decided he really doesn't give a shit anymore, whenever he stumbles upon some keys he just goes ahead and swipes whatever he can grab.
Whichever may be the case, just disgusting.

Thanks for the heads-up, PMICT.

those were the ones commissioned by Agrawas to celebrate the holiday.

here is a raffle where he did 3 of them with a silver piece.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287983.0

31 were made

[tread93]

  What a motherfucker! So he possibly held onto all the Private keys of all his creations!

   Everyone should have swept all their items by now and not take any chances!

   I swept all except for the bonds as I am still awaiting the locktime date to arrive...But will check them now and see if he swept mine!

   What a piece of shit man!
 

Of course he kept them all, IMO if he kept one he kept all of them. The crypto bonds were to me the biggest red flag. Locking up the bitcoin for x amount of years would give anyone PLENTY of time to get right into their back door and run a clean sweep on the funds. Patrick is a con artist for sure. He managed to fool everyone here, it really is a shame he had to go on and do that. His collectibles were truly a form of art. Now they are just one big cold key sham. We still have the memories though, right? lol. Gotta make some positive out of all this.

[Kryptowerk]

On April 18th he swept the Diwali edition…. Fucker was planning this for years - check the address

bc1qckqrfwdcykcwvmzqxrg4vuvhs6ty5d2pjjvhw0

He stored the keys for years - - if my losses were bigger - I’d be on a plane. The world isn’t that big. Can get anywhere for a few thousand dollars

Not fully familiar with coldcuck product palette - what's a Diwali edition?
Sorry to hear it, hope most people swiped their remaining cards already.

Yes, could be planned, but my guess is he "somehow" kept lots and lots of private keys on different devices and his business structure was a mess in that regard from the beginning. Now, that he decided he really doesn't give a shit anymore, whenever he stumbles upon some keys he just goes ahead and swipes whatever he can grab.
Whichever may be the case, just disgusting.

Thanks for the heads-up, PMICT.

those were the ones commissioned by Agrawas to celebrate the holiday.

here is a raffle where he did 3 of them with a silver piece.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287983.0

31 were made

Oh, these flew completely over my head back then. What a shame, yogg not hesitating to touch anything, even all the private/personal projects, Playtoshi, now this.


@tread93: Yeah, whichever it is, all keys kept or "just some", as soon as you keep ANY keys as a maker, you have already stepped on the stairs to scammer-hell imho.

[MoparMiningLLC]

@tread93: Yeah, whichever it is, all keys kept or "just some", as soon as you keep ANY keys as a maker, you have already stepped on the stairs to scammer-hell imho.

I agree with this. I have made errors when making keys (one I put the pub addy in and the pk facing out - this was fixed before any loading was done - thankfully.

But I have never kept any keys - fuck that. No amount of funds are worth that.

[Kryptowerk]

@tread93: Yeah, whichever it is, all keys kept or "just some", as soon as you keep ANY keys as a maker, you have already stepped on the stairs to scammer-hell imho.

I agree with this. I have made errors when making keys (one I put the pub addy in and the pk facing out - this was fixed before any loading was done - thankfully.

But I have never kept any keys - fuck that. No amount of funds are worth that.

A "fun" sidenote, even with the total amount of money swept by yugg, my guess is the value of his brand name was well over what he got out so far. Not an expert on such a valuation, just a gut-feeling.

[PawGo]

A "fun" sidenote, even with the total amount of money swept by yugg, my guess is the value of his brand name was well over what he got out so far. Not an expert on such a valuation, just a gut-feeling.

That's a negative side effect of working as hobbyist. If it were a legal entity, it would be easier to evaluate the value of the whole business - and of course it would be easier to transfer it to someone else. Otherwise all he had was a 'reputation' of nice cold cards producer. And it seems it was not enough to pay his gambling debts, or whatever was the cause. Having everything formalized, he would know (or even ask for independent evaluation) how much the whole business is worth.

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[Nwada001]

@tread93: Yeah, whichever it is, all keys kept or "just some", as soon as you keep ANY keys as a maker, you have already stepped on the stairs to scammer-hell imho.

I agree with this. I have made errors when making keys (one I put the pub addy in and the pk facing out - this was fixed before any loading was done - thankfully.

But I have never kept any keys - fuck that. No amount of funds are worth that.

This is because you value your reputation more than money. And good names are priceless to some who actually value them. Why, some money is everything, which is exactly where the Yoggs guy belongs. He doesn't f*cking care what tag is given to his reputation.

[Cryptogreatdane]

@tread93: Yeah, whichever it is, all keys kept or "just some", as soon as you keep ANY keys as a maker, you have already stepped on the stairs to scammer-hell imho.

I agree with this. I have made errors when making keys (one I put the pub addy in and the pk facing out - this was fixed before any loading was done - thankfully.

But I have never kept any keys - fuck that. No amount of funds are worth that.

This is because you value your reputation more than money. And good names are priceless to some who actually value them. Why, some money is everything, which is exactly where the Yoggs guy belongs. He doesn't f*cking care what tag is given to his reputation.

  Its sad too, to throw your reputation away so early in the game. Couldnt he see that the real opportunity to make money was coming. The opportunity to sell these to the masses. Probably could of made hundreds of thousands legitimately and kept his reputation in tact.

[owlcatz]

Its sad too, to throw your reputation away so early in the game. Couldnt he see that the real opportunity to make money was coming. The opportunity to sell these to the masses. Probably could of made hundreds of thousands legitimately and kept his reputation in tact.

Problem was for him... He apparently coulld not make it that far due to his mental health etc...

I'm currently of the strong opinion that his abuse of drugs, alcohol, non-sleep, and EFFEXOR caused all this. He should be in jail. I've tried, but nobody will help really..

BTW, if you are considering flying there, make sure you know someone cuz you will NEVER get to his address or even to the right train unless you speak fluent french, so glwt.

He's a complete scumbag, and belongs in jail, however his current status as "handicapped" due to autism, and all of the above, he's completely fucked. If anyone knows his mother, if she finds out, she will cut him off forever and it already sounds like that may have happened already.

What a waste of life. Kinda surprised he's not living in the ghetto on the other side of the seine right now with all the other junkies, but he needs his meds, kitty-cat, and obvioulsy, a fuckin smack upside the head and a trip to the cop-shop, but I'm not convinced this will ever happen anyhow TBH...

Fuck that guy...