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April 04, 2023, 06:14:24 PM
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As we see, things aren't going well for Changpeng Zhao and more likely for Binance too, especially when it's becoming very clear that they are into very shady things: Binance employees are helping users in China to bypass KYC, directly violated U.S. derivatives laws, manipulates with trading volume and probably manipulates with Futures Trading too.

Decentralized exchanges are good alternatives if someone wants to feel safe and secure and in control of their funds but they lack a lot of features compared to centralized ones. For example, Binance has features like: Futures trading, options, leveraged tokens, swap farming, DeFi Stacking, Liquidity Farming, Launchpad and so on. These features attract a lot of users but p2p exchanges lack them. So, there are people who choose centralized exchanges because of that.

So, my question is, if Binance goes down, which centralized bitcoin exchange are you going to use? Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.

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April 04, 2023, 06:28:09 PM
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Answer? No centralized exchange.

Operate by using Peer to Peer solutions for your bitcoin <-> fiat needs and use decentralized exchanges or no-kyc swapping utilities (if decentralized exchanges are not available) when you are on-chain. This way, you do not have to trust a third party with your blockchain usage data as well as your personal data and your risks of being exposed to potential pitfalls that come with using centralized exchanges as minimized.

If you are looking for peer to peer or privacy friendly options, I can recommend AgoraDesk for a local-bitcoins style marketplace and kycnot.me for tools that can be used to maintain privacy within the Bitcoin ecosystem and beyond. Some fantastic decentralized web3 tools exist on various layer 2 (arbitrum, optimism, polygon, etc.) for perpetual/margin trading if you will miss these features on the centralized exchange that you are currently using.
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April 04, 2023, 06:42:54 PM
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Binance has features like: Futures trading, options, leveraged tokens, swap farming, DeFi Stacking, Liquidity Farming, Launchpad and so on. These features attract a lot of users but p2p exchanges lack them. So, there are people who choose centralized exchanges because of that.
You can see many decentralized exchanges that are offering derivative market like future trading, but people can be afraid of hack and exploit.

So, my question is, if Binance goes down, which centralized bitcoin exchange are you going to use? Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.
I do not use a single exchange as I do not also keep money on exchanges. I use Kucoin for no KYC, I also use OKX and Huobi global. If no Binance again, I will add another exchange which most likely not Coinbase. Coinbase do not even provide derivative trading like future trading and also not offering margin trading.

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April 04, 2023, 07:00:50 PM
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So, my question is, if Binance goes down, which centralized bitcoin exchange are you going to use? Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.
Coinbase doesn't operate in a lot of countries though they don't operate like Binance does (unregulated). I don't think Coinbase will be able to be the #1. Any other centralized exchange like Kucoin will take over the place in case Binance gets down.
I don't like Binance for a lot of reasons, I don't like centralized exchanges for the same reason almost but you know we don't have a way to ignore them especially when you are in a country where no ATM is there for crypto. We have to go through centralized exchanges many times though personally, I'm trying my best to minimize it at best. Well, if I had to pick a centralized exchange, Kucoin would be my pick.

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April 04, 2023, 07:01:58 PM
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Currently, I'm using Binance and I can't find any other alternative except for local exchange here in my country.
Coinbase would be the only option but they do have limited offers/services compared to Binance.
So I think if Binance will shut down my only hope is to use a local exchange which is way safer than using other exchanges.

Also, check the Coinex exchange it was owned by Viabtc and I am using this sometimes when trading my mined BTC to other coins.

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April 04, 2023, 07:36:43 PM
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Answer? No centralized exchange.

Operate by using Peer to Peer solutions for your bitcoin (...)

If you are looking for peer to peer or privacy friendly options, I can recommend AgoraDesk for a local-bitcoins style marketplace and kycnot.me for tools that can be used to maintain privacy within the Bitcoin ecosystem and beyond. (...)
I've highlighted great suggestions that I also support from BenCodie. Solutions such as Bisq[1], RoboSats[2][3] and AgoraDesk[4] are probably some of the most popular (at least from the replies that I every often see here in the forum), but as BenCodie pointed out you can check out more in the website that he listed.

Do note that considering that you're increasing your privacy (as in not providing KYC and other information to a central entity) you'll likely find a premium price in the BTC that's being traded in those platforms. For instance, as of now, the current BTC price is $28,110 USD[5] where in Bisq the value is sitting at ~ $28,701 USD[6] (2% increase). Due to the nature of the platform you'll likely encounter sellers that impose a higher %, but from what I've seen that is more often than not related to the quantity you are purchasing (the bigger the smaller the % of the premium), which is understandable.

To me this percentage means nothing as I consider my data, and therefore my privacy, way more important than the previous price difference. I do reckon, however, that most people simply do not care about this and as long as there exists a platform easy to access and to trade fiat<->BTC, they'll most likely go for that (the average John Doe at least...).

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April 04, 2023, 07:41:54 PM
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So, my question is, if Binance goes down, which centralized bitcoin exchange are you going to use? Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.

I have always used Binance for all my P2P trades, but if eventually anything happens to Binance and we are force into a situation where we have to look for a better alternative than Binance and it must still be a Centralized exchange then I might go for Kucoin, because I already have an account there so it won't be difficult for me to migrate there and continue my trading there, after all I have already completed my KYC verification there.

My next choice after Kucoin would be Coinbase, I have heard people speak decently about it but yet I still haven't used it, but if anything should go sideways with both Binance and Kucoin, I might consider giving it a chance.

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On the contrary, I think that the presence of Coinbase in San Francisco, i.e. in the United States, makes it a very bad option, in addition to that being the most popular exchange after Binance also makes it targeted by the United States government, so I am sorry to say that Coinbase is a very bad option at the moment.

It is best for now to stay away from centralized exchanges, it is best to keep your coins in your wallet and use decentralized exchanges only when needed.

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April 04, 2023, 09:18:22 PM
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my question is, if Binance goes down, which centralized bitcoin exchange are you going to use? Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.
If Binance couldn't survive all these allegations and doesn't come out victorious and goes down, there will probably be an alternative that everyone will turn toward, and if that actually happens, it will impact the market badly as well because we all know how much volume and liquidity Binance has for each and every coin and token available for trade at Binance.

I think we should wait still to see what happens in the next couple of months, if things go more out of the hand of the Binance administration, that will probably be the time when everyone should start looking for alternatives.
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April 04, 2023, 10:36:55 PM
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I stopped using Binance a few months ago after it locked my account for 24 hours without explaining the reasons. And I replaced it with the Kucoin platform, which is considered one of the few reliable platforms that support my country, since I cannot use all known platforms, including those licensed in USA. Kucoin is friendly use and contains a range of features similar to Binance although i am not a trader myself.
Worth to mention that one of the best alternatives is Coinbase. It's a cryptocurrency exchange that is fully regulated in the USA. Coinbase has been operational since 2012 and has gained a reputation for its security and ease of use. Another alternative is Kraken, which is also fully licensed and regulated in the USA. Kraken offers a wide range of cryptocurrencies and has a strong focus on security.

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Funnily enough I've had some issues with Binance recently, too. I've been using their services for many years, a binance card user as well with decent trading volume. A couple of weeks ago they started spamming me with "Source of Wealth documents needed" - I provided everything I had and after some time they backed off but then I got a warning because "You have sent and received funds to/from gambling services which is prohibited as per our terms". I searched through their ToS and they make no mention of gambling services, anywhere. When I pointed this out the reply I got was "This is our terms, do not receive funds from any gambling services or you will be banned".

Alternatives are desperately needed, indeed. I guess they just got too big.

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I've been using Binance and thinking just as you, maybe the same choice as your with Coinbase but I'd probably also go with Kucoin and the others. You know, testing all of them until I think I've find the greatly alternative for Binance. But as much as I don't want to ship from exchange to exchange, I do hope that they'll fix their mess soon. It's expected that they'll go come crazy asking for new documents and I've just done it again early this year and I've got no effin' question on them since a couple of my funds sitting on there. It's a good discussion that we're sharing whatever happens to them, we find a new the same exchange or a better one.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 04, 2023, 11:19:06 PM
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I always use Kucoin, well, not untill they require their users for KYC. But as long as they don't it's fine, 1 bitcoin withdrawal limit in 24 hours (i guess that is still the limit) is still enough for me to use them without doing their KYC. Besides that it seems like they are accepting more pairs. And it looks like they don't want to be in spot light unlike binance who become greedy that almost all kind of crypto service they want to add on the platform, exchange, dex(even its not) mining pool, cloud mining, etc.

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April 04, 2023, 11:40:48 PM
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Well, this is going to be a challenging problem for some individuals in most countries. Because Binance is mostly the best option they prefer to buy USDt before they can withdraw and buy Bitcoin through P2P, just as Little Mouse stated, some countries that don't have a Bitcoin ATM or any local Bitcoin P2P vendor will face some challenges. In as much as CEX is criticized because they are centralized and require KYC, in most countries the use of CEX makes it easier for them to buy bitcoin. I have been using Binance since I started my crypto journey. I have also used Huibe, and if Binance goes down, I will switch to Huibe, which is also a large CEX and opened in many countries.

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April 05, 2023, 01:34:33 AM
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The reasons you mentioned are what the media machine wants you to believe, but there are many enough reasons to make you avoid them. Unfortunately, Binance was excellent in the first days, but with the days, their model began to build an ideal platform that carries many flaws.
Currently, there is no suitable alternative for them, and centralized platforms do not provide an ideal alternative, so withdraw your money from the platform as soon as trading ends and try to use all available alternatives.

I believe that with the passage of time people will understand the importance of DEXs.

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April 05, 2023, 01:53:01 AM
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If you are limiting your choices to centralized exchanges, then you will be forced to choose the lesser evil. If you are looking for alternative to centralized exchanges, then you can have DExes, although with much lesser features, lower volume, lesser trading pairs, and so on. But if you are looking for an alternative centralized exchanges, then I guess you will have to risk with the big names such as KuCoin, Coinbase, OKX, Huobi. The assumption is that they're relatively safer since they're large enough to crumble easily, but it is never a guarantee.  

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April 05, 2023, 12:00:20 PM
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As we see, things aren't going well for Changpeng Zhao and more likely for Binance too, especially when it's becoming very ....
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I like Binance and I don't consider it a risky trade.
Yes, there has been news now that they are doing illegal verifications in China, but this still needs to be proved. That is, most likely they do, but it will not be so easy to prove to the court.
I like p2p and ease of handling - everything happens quickly and intuitively clear. The liquidity is excellent.
Where to run if the binance is closed? Probably Bybit. I also use Currency and free2ex.

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April 05, 2023, 01:10:02 PM
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Personally, I think that Coinbase will become more popular because it's number two exchange by popularity at the moment and what makes it more attractive compared to Binance is that it's the San Francisco-based company, has been in business since 2012.

I can say with great certainty that you can exclude Coinbase from this possibility, because they have too many restrictions and limits for users. Especially after the announced closure of many accounts after April 9.
to achieve a dominant or approximately strong position requires a global business, Coinbase certainly does not have that, they will remain only as a solid online wallet.

For instance, as of now, the current BTC price is $28,110 USD[5] where in Bisq the value is sitting at ~ $28,701 USD[6] (2% increase). Due to the nature of the platform you'll likely encounter sellers that impose a higher %, but from what I've seen that is more often than not related to the quantity you are purchasing (the bigger the smaller the % of the premium), which is understandable.

the current price is what someone is ready to pay at that moment. you can't just compare, because there are differences between open orders and executed ones. if it were so black and white, I believe that arbitrage trading would be an easy job.

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April 05, 2023, 01:18:06 PM
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I personally have no issues with Binance and as long as it provides me with good service, I'm comfortable using it. I believe the experience and preference of individual users may vary depending on the country they're in. I particularly appreciate Binance's P2P trading feature, which makes my life easier compared to our local exchange that is very strict with the source of funds entering their platform.

Regarding an alternative exchange, I think Coinbase is currently the most popular option, but it may not achieve the same level of success that Binance has already attained.

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April 05, 2023, 02:08:05 PM
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I recognize a number of exchanges that have also experienced growth along with the glorious achievements of FTX in their time, they're Bybit and Mexc.
Apart from all this, maybe it's time for us to slowly stop feeling comfortable that we will always run smoothly on these exchanges even though they haven't been subjected to stricter policies and sanctions, and start getting used to using the p2p market.

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