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April 07, 2023, 02:38:54 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

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April 07, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
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If that casino requires KYC, you should complete it before make deposit and bet. Like I use exchanges, I don't open account and make deposit if my account does not have KYC successful verification. If I deposit and KYC fails, I will feel panic as I can lose my coins if my second, third KYCs and after all fail.

It is common when casino requests KYC after a player wins big and submit a withdrawal request.

Why did your friend KYC fail? Your friend can resubmit it with photo taken under better light, natural day light and best to avoid taking photo for your KYC at night.
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April 07, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
A scam casino is a scam casino whether you failed or pass the verification.

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Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
It is unless it's stated in their TOS that they can at any time not grant you your bonus if they failed to keep up with that promise but I consider this a question of reputation because you have not yet won and you cannot withdraw



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April 07, 2023, 03:00:47 PM
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Before taking any further action, it's important to consider a few things.
- ensure that the photocopies of the IDs are clear enough for verification.
- double-check if you have submitted the correct information as per the KYC requirement.

If you have taken care of these things and are still facing issues, it's advisable to post a detailed account of the issue on the thread, seek assistance through live support or email. If none of these communication channels work, it might be necessary to post a detailed account of the problem in the scam accusation board.

you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
Contact them thru email or post your issue on their thread. Sometimes, casino needs a bit of bad publicity to consider their client issues.

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April 07, 2023, 03:02:06 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

What says their ToS? Most of the times... they can avoid to pay bonuses or reject KYC.
Regarding this last point, if they are not able to confirm KYC it should be clearly stated why and what is wrong just to fix the issue... however I will pay attention to provide documents, if you're not really sure of their reputation.
 Most of the times casino's are using a third party vendor so it's something possible the issue is not linked directly to them.

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April 07, 2023, 03:04:19 PM
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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

It’s customary to read the casino ToS and head over the AML policy to determine whether they will ask KYC at some point or not but mostly casino that have an e-gaming license such as Curacao will surely require you to undergo KYC for that amount of profit.

I try to passed KYC before on Duelbits and they keep rejecting my documents for 10ths times despite I’m passing a clear picture. I contact the support and they suggest me to submit other ID that works. You should try different ID or ask directly the support on the reason for the rejection of the ID because there might be a problem on the documents you are submitting while your judgement is being blocked by your suspicions towards the casino.

Casino is scam if they didn’t provide the reason for rejecting your ID or if they are not willing to cooperate for solving the issue.

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April 07, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
The failure of the KYC might caused by different things. There are some times the scanned documents are not clear for the casino to see. Or network break down, so if any of those things are occurred then it is not a scam, you just have to resend them back. But if those things are alright and the casino refused to pay or blocked you then it is a scam.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
You have said it, the time of the deposit means a lot and deposited amount, in most times casinos make a special rules for bonuses because gamblers abused bonuses on casino site. So if you have not received your bonus, the best approach to do is to contact the customer service to know the reason.

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
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Let him read the terms and conditions of any casino applying to gamble. Let see others input.
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April 07, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
depends on the casino's reason as to why they failed you to pass the KYC.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
you can always contact the gambling site's support and inform them about the issue.

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
what gambling site is it? has your friend talked to the gambling site's support regarding the issue? has he checked if the bonus has a specific requirement in order to be qualified for it? if he hasn't he should.

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April 07, 2023, 03:08:48 PM
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Maybe I can't share my experience because I'm just a small gambler who never won thousands of dollars but only tens of dollars and was never asked to complete complicated KYC, even though the casino also implemented it

when viewed from a number of cases, it's usually like that, many consider the casino to be a fraud, actually it's an easy thing, if the casino wants your friend to complete KYC, you should give real KYC, don't fake it, because it will be considered an error, sometimes I can't say the casino commit fraud, they may only implement security procedures and users may be caught cheating on bonuses given or others.

so if indeed the casino is just asking your friends to complete KYC you should just follow the procedure and keep communicating with them, if they make it difficult then you should create a thread of accusations and provide screenshots to give reputation to the casino.  Wink

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April 07, 2023, 03:09:31 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
Check for the terms which you have agreed when you engage into their platform. It should be on the TOS; if KYC is rewuired on their platform to do function, then you have no other choice but to comply. But if changes on their policies were implemented in the middle of that casino's service to their players, and without any formal indtroduction and explanationof the changes, then I guess you can already acuse them as fraud especially if they refuse to release your funds because of the changes made. Problem is, tagging them red would do what? If a platform is unregistered, then youd worry nothing if anything happen with your fund because you guys may sue them. But if not, then it will just be a "lesson learned" @the end of the day.

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April 07, 2023, 03:14:18 PM
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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Actually, before using the casino you can read the Tos that is already in the casino whether they require KYC or not while you are playing there.
If indeed in the Tos there is no previous KYC information then this action is not a fraud because after you send KYC they will pay and approve your withdrawal.
From this problem I have the conclusion that a casino can be considered fraudulent if after providing KYC they don't pay you or don't approve the withdrawal you made.
I have heard of cases like this happening in casinos and many gamblers either regret it or are a bit disappointed with them.

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April 07, 2023, 03:15:01 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
First we have many instances to consider before we call the scam if they failed to verify your account after providing them with all the necessary KYC documents such instances are as follow.

1: when the information on your account is same with your documents such as Name and country of residents and the casino deliberately deny you
Success in the verification processes.

2: if you provide your kyc information and documents but the casino failed to respond to them and there after ban your account, that way also you can call the casino scam

Also, magine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer then maybe the bonus was cancelled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

If you follow all the bonus rules and yet are denied a bonus, you may call them a scam but then most casinos already have a clus included in their bonus terms and conditions that they have the sole right to deny anyone the bonus without any legal implication for them, so with that, the casino already got themselves covered (and may win over the player if such claims arise.

 So it all balls down to one fact which is, to make sure to read terms and conditions very well before you try to claim bonuses and on the KYC issues always try to read the case terms of operations before subscribing to play them.
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Any other reasons?
I wouldn't consider the casino a scam just because your friend failed the verification process there's most likely a reason why it got rejected. Did your friend mention why the casino didn't accept his/her documents?

The casino should at least state the reason so your friend can correct the mistake that was done during the previous attempt. If everything was done properly and the casino still rejects it on the next attempt then it might be best to forward the case to a mediator like AskGamblers.

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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
What to do, what to do? I will start to resent and create a topic on the forum for discussion. Cheesy

There are no options here:
1 - if you want to receive money, you will have to fulfill the conditions of the casino.
2 - if you want to keep your privacy - you will have to give up money.

All power over the situation at the moment is in the hands of the casino. As they want to do, so be it. Therefore, they may not give you prize money under one pretext or another. For some reason, everyone considers the casino a good friend who will gladly share a deposit with you. This is absolutely not true. On the contrary, the casino is the worst enemy, ready to extract money from you in any way.

They promise a bonus and don't accrue - this is an act of deception. You should immediately run away from such a casino. If they cheat even on such trifles, then you will never see the prize money.

You can only sympathize with your friend. Let him try to discuss his problem with the support of the casino. If they don't go to meet him, then he will probably not receive the prize money.

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I try to passed KYC before on Duelbits and they keep rejecting my documents for 10ths times despite I’m passing a clear picture. I contact the support and they suggest me to submit other ID that works. You should try different ID or ask directly the support on the reason for the rejection of the ID because there might be a problem on the documents you are submitting while your judgement is being blocked by your suspicions towards the casino.

Same experience until the support point out to me that I’m submitting a expired license that I didn’t notice because it just expired one month ago by the time I submit my ID for KYC verification. Duelbits support care to explain what’s wrong to my ID and willing to help to solve my case.

Casino is scam if they didn’t provide the reason for rejecting your ID or if they are not willing to cooperate for solving the issue.
Agree because reputable casino has nothing to gain on holding someone while their reputation is on the line. They have a steady flow of income from players that trusting them and it’s nonsense to sacrifice it for someone win by rejecting intentionally the KYC.


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Why not just avoid the casino that you think might just be a scam? Remember that we encourage users to do research first and if you see the casino is not well known to the community, it's possible that it's new, and a new casino could be a scam until it exists for a long time without scam accusations or they have resolved accusations.

But now that your friend has deposited already I guess the only way to find out is when he made sure he sends the right documents to pass KYC. If it ain't working still and all the casino's response is that he didn't pass the KYC, the casino really has the intention to scam.


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April 07, 2023, 03:32:52 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

KYC is not something wrong to be asked. Sometime the casino needs to comply with the regulation too. You should not think that any casino must be fully anonymous. There will be a need to double-check why your KYC failed. It's not good to judge it just because your KYC failed for the first time.
If you have been doing verification a few times but it keeps being rejected by casino and there must be something that needs to worry about the casino.

Under Anti-Money Laundering (AML) regulations, gambling companies must conduct KYC to ensure that their customers are trusted individuals with a verified identity. The KYC format varies from country to country. Some regulators may consider automated biometric checks of online gamblers, as is done in the UK.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
It's a scam if we will not able to withdraw it but it will not be a scam if we will able to withdraw our bonuses. The problem is people must not even read the requirements to be able to withdraw the bonus.


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April 07, 2023, 03:33:15 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
What's their reason for them not accepting and approving the documents you submitted, you cannot call a casino a scam if they did not approve your documents because it's at their discretion if they will approve it or not, it's better to ask them first and if they ignore then you can post the issue here, there should be an investigation first.
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Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

They should first explain why they have not credited your account when you deposit, because you deposit because of the bonus they should have a valid explanation.

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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
The best answer should come from the casino so better ask your friend to open a ticket and ask the casino first.

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April 07, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
That would be a lot of money to be won and they would definitely know who is behind that winning bet or something. It will depend on how they are dealing with players in the site. Find some reviews about it and see if there are people who would have the same thoughts on "scam" or legit.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
It's a way for them to attract new players. That wouldn't be immediately equal a scam. You should be wary of "too good to be true" things.

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Is there any other reason given by the casino why it failed? There has to be something.

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April 07, 2023, 03:56:02 PM
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

Well, I would very well much expect a casino to KYC me after trying to withdraw a large amount of money. They obviously do not do this for every single account because checking KYC documents take time, personnel and money. And they have to adhere to the regulation laws if they have a legitimate license. Any other casino that does not do this would seem shady to me.

As far as to your question of a failed KYC, either it was a human error and you should try to talk things out with them or the KYC you gave them is faulty/wrong in some other way. The best thing to do is to read the terms and conditions of that casino before putting your funds in their wallet.

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