Enough to consider a casino scam?

[Wiwo]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.

But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

[coinerer]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

[pawanjain]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

[maydna]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.

[Wiwo]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.

Exactly if the ops pass the KYC but are refused by the casino without any explanation or note to state what part of the document was not accepted that is a clear violation and a scam act from the casino, just as I said in the previous comment, we must read through a casino T&C to be sure of what term and conditions we are up against before making an account.

Also, check the online reviews and also take note of that casino that has an ANN thread here in the forum before playing on them.

[danadc]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.

Exactly if the ops pass the KYC but are refused by the casino without any explanation or note to state what part of the document was not accepted that is a clear violation and a scam act from the casino, just as I said in the previous comment, we must read through a casino T&C to be sure of what term and conditions we are up against before making an account.

Also, check the online reviews and also take note of that casino that has an ANN thread here in the forum before playing on them.

What I think about this is the Following, if a player complies with his KYC he must give all the priorities and facilities in the casino, it does not Make sense that he can back out his Process or have it repeated again, with the simple the fact of agreeing to do it and doing it is a profit for the casino and it is one more customer that does not leave, so why not Value that? If they Show up that Complies with the kyc and then they don't Comply with their deal, the casino is a Scam ,Because they will Suspend the Withdrawal and Nothing can be done.

[Mahanton]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.

But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

If you are that a player who do play up fair and square on a platform and then you do suddenly hit up some huge amounts or win because of extreme luck then if you are dealing with a legit and non shady platform then
you would really be getting paid right away but if you are dealing up with something which it isnt been known or popular then it would be no shocking that they would really be asking something like this on which
it do really sucks and might be resulting into huge stress and pain in the ass if you couldnt be able to get that winning. If they do ask out for some KYC then for sure you would be having no
doubts on complying it but after that if they wont really be still releasing then you do know on what you are dealing with.

[serjent05]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

[slapper]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.

But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

If you are that a player who do play up fair and square on a platform and then you do suddenly hit up some huge amounts or win because of extreme luck then if you are dealing with a legit and non shady platform then
you would really be getting paid right away but if you are dealing up with something which it isnt been known or popular then it would be no shocking that they would really be asking something like this on which
it do really sucks and might be resulting into huge stress and pain in the ass if you couldnt be able to get that winning. If they do ask out for some KYC then for sure you would be having no
doubts on complying it but after that if they wont really be still releasing then you do know on what you are dealing with.

Isn't it crazy that con artists have created entire websites dedicated to parting you from your money? They seem to care little about doing the right thing or playing by the rules.

If you get involved with one of these dubious businesses, they may force you do anything to get your hands on your winnings. They seem determined to drive you to the point of giving up, at which point they will take your reward money.

But don't let them trick you! They're obviously not playing by the rules if they're asking for your firstborn child or a kidney as ransom. It's time to stand up for what you deserve.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I had my fair share of strange actions by bookmakers just to slow me down.

One of them for example, I don't want to name it. I was down quite some money on that site and finally had a stretch of some weeks where I won really everything. I remember well, at one point I won 24 out of my last 26 bets. So I recovered a high % of my losses in that time.

I decided to withdraw some, which usually takes 1-4 hours, and went to bed.

Next morning no money in my wallet and a message from them my account has be "selected for a routine security check" . At that point I was with this site for 2 years, always deposited/withdrew from the same wallet, always used the same IP, always bet on the same sports. But now that I finally won some money back they do this. Of course it only had impact on my withdrawals, I could still deposit, still make bets, just not play poker because you could collude with somebody losing you money to that person intentionally to withdraw.

Anyway, this "random check" took 3 weeks, and we are talking about a 5 digit amount stuck on the site. They didn't ask for KYC, just I should wait.

I suppose they tried to trigger me into making more bets so I could lose it back, but that didn't happen.

After all those weeks they finally cleared my account, guess they couldn't come up with an excuse to not pay me. I also didn't get any explanation or apology. As another fxxx you in my face they limited me, even though I was still down money overall.

Needless to say that I withdrew all my funds and moved on, these kind of tactics are just ridiculous. Of course it's not a scam but it was definitely shady.

[paxmao]

I had my fair share of strange actions by bookmakers just to slow me down.

One of them for example, I don't want to name it. I was down quite some money on that site and finally had a stretch of some weeks where I won really everything. I remember well, at one point I won 24 out of my last 26 bets. So I recovered a high % of my losses in that time.

I decided to withdraw some, which usually takes 1-4 hours, and went to bed.

Next morning no money in my wallet and a message from them my account has be "selected for a routine security check" . At that point I was with this site for 2 years, always deposited/withdrew from the same wallet, always used the same IP, always bet on the same sports. But now that I finally won some money back they do this. Of course it only had impact on my withdrawals, I could still deposit, still make bets, just not play poker because you could collude with somebody losing you money to that person intentionally to withdraw.

Anyway, this "random check" took 3 weeks, and we are talking about a 5 digit amount stuck on the site. They didn't ask for KYC, just I should wait.

I suppose they tried to trigger me into making more bets so I could lose it back, but that didn't happen.

After all those weeks they finally cleared my account, guess they couldn't come up with an excuse to not pay me. I also didn't get any explanation or apology. As another fxxx you in my face they limited me, even though I was still down money overall.

Needless to say that I withdrew all my funds and moved on, these kind of tactics are just ridiculous. Of course it's not a scam but it was definitely shady.

This reminds me of some ICOs in the past. Everything was easy on regards to sending the money, but getting the token listed, sending it to the users and basically being able to sell your coins, particularly if you bounty-hunted, was nearly impossible. It seems that some sites are following this pattern and yes, it is a scam IMO if you want to see it that way.

[CryptSafe]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.
1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.
2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

Going by your opinion, I think it is better one reads the terms and conditions of a casino before getting involved with the casino. In as much as everyone is trying to avoid kyc so it is the casino too would want to know who they are dealing with in accordance to their local law. For them not to default, they demand for your identity to be in the safe side if government agencies comes for them. So it would be in your best interest to either identify with them or you leave them but you rushing to identifying with them as a result of their bonus without going through the terms and conditions of Service is a big blunder and therefore if they withhold your funds demanding for your identity verification, you should comply as well because you signed up for it.

[Dunamisx]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

There's this common thing many gamblers made as mistakes which is their inpatient in reading each casino's terms and conditions before enrollment, gamblers then follow up to agitate on any unusual encounter with casinos whereby such does not work in their favour but would have been well stated on their policy, another thing is not only joining a new casino that matters but having reliability in them not to turn scam base on our research about them and their past experience with other gamblers, all these were what should be table together and looked into in other to have a nice gambling experience and not to fall into hands of scammers in gambling.

[Hypnosis00]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

There's this common thing many gamblers made as mistakes which is their inpatient in reading each casino's terms and conditions before enrollment, gamblers then follow up to agitate on any unusual encounter with casinos whereby such does not work in their favour but would have been well stated on their policy, another thing is not only joining a new casino that matters but having reliability in them not to turn scam base on our research about them and their past experience with other gamblers, all these were what should be table together and looked into in other to have a nice gambling experience and not to fall into hands of scammers in gambling.

And it happens to me oftentimes even though I know that it only takes a few minutes to read the rules. However, in today's situation, we are also aware that KYC is somewhat mandatory in major gambling sites especially when withdrawing huge amounts. So I think OP should not be surprised by such a thing, he should able to anticipate it even if it was not asked already. Because of now, it was hard to assume that there are sites that don't require KYC as they are also protecting their reputation when it comes to money laundering and any illegal activities. 

[len01]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

There's this common thing many gamblers made as mistakes which is their inpatient in reading each casino's terms and conditions before enrollment, gamblers then follow up to agitate on any unusual encounter with casinos whereby such does not work in their favour but would have been well stated on their policy, another thing is not only joining a new casino that matters but having reliability in them not to turn scam base on our research about them and their past experience with other gamblers, all these were what should be table together and looked into in other to have a nice gambling experience and not to fall into hands of scammers in gambling.

And it happens to me oftentimes even though I know that it only takes a few minutes to read the rules. However, in today's situation, we are also aware that KYC is somewhat mandatory in major gambling sites especially when withdrawing huge amounts. So I think OP should not be surprised by such a thing, he should able to anticipate it even if it was not asked already. Because of now, it was hard to assume that there are sites that don't require KYC as they are also protecting their reputation when it comes to money laundering and any illegal activities. 

sometimes every gambler has a different character and maybe the OP is one of the gamblers who maintains his anonymity so maybe the OP doesn't care a little about KYC. indeed, at this time almost all big and popular casinos will definitely ask for KYC when they want to withdraw large funds from the platform and of course we also have to comply with these regulations so that we can continue to withdraw our funds.
for me no worries as long as we KYC at a big reputable casino.

[pawanjain]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

That's exactly what we should do. Whenever money is involved we have to be more cautious.
When it comes to depositing money on any site we should definitely look into their policies.
If things go haywire then the fault shouldn't be at our end and only then we can blame the site and raise an accusation against them.

[Webetcoins]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.

But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Whatever OP or his close one has gone through doesn't specifically make the casino a scam, even if the casino doesn't show it in the beginning or ask for KYC for deposits or even small withdrawals but if you opt for a bigger withdrawal, you are subject to KYC in almost any gambling platform that has a license and is operating by complying with all the rules and regulations like AML, etc.

Casinos have some things that they need to take care of, and fighting money laundering and avoiding it to happen within their platforms is probably at the top of their priority list, so they are not wrong in asking for KYC, and if someone fails to pass KYC, they might be the one who is wrong and not the platform.

[danadc]

Talking about me personally there are things that I would do in both cases. Reading the terms and conditions at first place would have avoided both the issues.

1. Reading T&C we would have known that there is KYC and if there is any such process then it's better off to clear the KYC at first place and then gamble on the site.

2. Reading T&C we would have known if the bonus is active or not and if yes then we can raise a scam accusation against it.
If the bonus was supposed to be expired then we could make the deposit accordingly.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

There's this common thing many gamblers made as mistakes which is their inpatient in reading each casino's terms and conditions before enrollment, gamblers then follow up to agitate on any unusual encounter with casinos whereby such does not work in their favour but would have been well stated on their policy, another thing is not only joining a new casino that matters but having reliability in them not to turn scam base on our research about them and their past experience with other gamblers, all these were what should be table together and looked into in other to have a nice gambling experience and not to fall into hands of scammers in gambling.

And it happens to me oftentimes even though I know that it only takes a few minutes to read the rules. However, in today's situation, we are also aware that KYC is somewhat mandatory in major gambling sites especially when withdrawing huge amounts. So I think OP should not be surprised by such a thing, he should able to anticipate it even if it was not asked already. Because of now, it was hard to assume that there are sites that don't require KYC as they are also protecting their reputation when it comes to money laundering and any illegal activities. 

Whenever I see a casino and it's new or it's a casino since it has time, and it has promotions or things like that, I read its terms and that's something I rarely do, but I do it because I don't like to go through bad times that come play and win, which I rarely win and if I want to withdraw and they won't let me it's something that bothers me a lot, and I won't go to that casino again, and if I meet the requirements, I do the KYC and they won't accept me to withdraw my money, because for me it is simply a scam casino, neither more nor less.

[maydna]

You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.

Exactly if the ops pass the KYC but are refused by the casino without any explanation or note to state what part of the document was not accepted that is a clear violation and a scam act from the casino, just as I said in the previous comment, we must read through a casino T&C to be sure of what term and conditions we are up against before making an account.

Also, check the online reviews and also take note of that casino that has an ANN thread here in the forum before playing on them.

And if the ANN threads on this forum don't show that the casino is an honest casino and lots of people doubt it, we don't need to try it because it's been explained by the people here. We already have many trusted casinos on this forum and good reputations, so there's no need to look for or try casinos whose services are still in doubt. In playing gambling, we need to find a casino that suits us and choosing a casino based on what other people say doesn't mean it's right for us. We have to look for it until we find a casino that we think is suitable.

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You can consider it as a scam if it did something that is against the law or that is really inappropriate for instance you just won a big amount of money and they will do anything to delay it or in case won't allow you to withdraw and you submitted the required document but still, they did not accept it even though you know that what you have send is valid and doesn't have any problem.

I think you should away on those kind of gambling site.

Even though the ops stated clearly that he didn't know that the casino will ask for kyc but after he won an amount that is above many casino trence hold for kyc demand,  because most of the casino may allow you to withdraw any amount that is below $5k but any winning above that limit will trigger kyc demand and the player will need to go through kyc verifications.
But in a situation where the player passed all the verification process and the casino refused to grant him access to the fund then he can call the scam.

Casino sites may require kyc to withdraw large amounts which almost all sites require. But all sites must write this into their rules. op said in his post that he is willing to do kyc but he submitted kyc but his kyc is not getting approved. If the site is repeatedly rejected by kyc despite submitting the correct information, then the site must be trying to cheat, so the site can be called a scam.  But op has not posted any proper proof that his kyc was rejected after submitting kyc

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.

Exactly if the ops pass the KYC but are refused by the casino without any explanation or note to state what part of the document was not accepted that is a clear violation and a scam act from the casino, just as I said in the previous comment, we must read through a casino T&C to be sure of what term and conditions we are up against before making an account.

Also, check the online reviews and also take note of that casino that has an ANN thread here in the forum before playing on them.

And if the ANN threads on this forum don't show that the casino is an honest casino and lots of people doubt it, we don't need to try it because it's been explained by the people here. We already have many trusted casinos on this forum and good reputations, so there's no need to look for or try casinos whose services are still in doubt. In playing gambling, we need to find a casino that suits us and choosing a casino based on what other people say doesn't mean it's right for us. We have to look for it until we find a casino that we think is suitable.

Actually trying a new casino on this forum is not a big risk as long as you don't provide any KYC data and try a new casino using a small amount.
So we can find out for ourselves how the casino is running without having to wait for other people's experiences.
I myself am also too lazy to try the new casinos on this forum, whereas here there are many big casinos that can
  become a safer place to gamble.