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May 23, 2023, 05:04:48 AM
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Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
Most services that I've seen mostly have automated verification processes where if you meet the requirements set by default, your verification will be done pretty quickly, right after the application is processed, but if there are mistakes or problems like no clear documents or mismatching information, then the case is handled manually which takes more time.

When a case is handled manually, it depends on how many existing requests a platform has and your case will be handled according to that, most of the time it's on a first come first served basis so you will have to wait until the previous applications are cleared.
Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

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May 23, 2023, 06:13:39 AM
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Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
Most services that I've seen mostly have automated verification processes where if you meet the requirements set by default, your verification will be done pretty quickly, right after the application is processed, but if there are mistakes or problems like no clear documents or mismatching information, then the case is handled manually which takes more time.

When a case is handled manually, it depends on how many existing requests a platform has and your case will be handled according to that, most of the time it's on a first come first served basis so you will have to wait until the previous applications are cleared.
Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley

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May 23, 2023, 11:02:55 AM
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Right, also it's important to understand that the casino itself can't affect KYC results and their acceptance. They are just following the rules in their jurisdiction. If they must, by the rules, make a customer to go through the KYC process if he/she wants to withdraw over $5,000, they do it then. There's nothing they can do about it without risking to lose their license.

Should they warn about it in their ToS? Absolutely. It's their fault they didn't. But they are not that evil as one might think. They are not declining KYC verification on purpose.
You saying, they can't affect kyc results and acceptance, is that supposed to mean the authorisation/clarification of a kyc document isn't done by the casino or sportsbook? Because, that would mean a lot for customers as, any means to some bias would be cut off and ensure more trust in the system.
Still, users needs to be familiar with critical parts of T&C of there gambling site and adhere to them as well.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The KYC process is performed by a third party entity, which has no relation to the casino whatsoever. There are hundreds of KYC companies, or, in other words, identity verification providers, and online casinos, like many other institutions, are using their services, that's all.

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May 23, 2023, 11:13:15 AM
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Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

Whether it's done manually or using an AI robot depends on the casino itself whether they have a lot of customers there and are already a big casino because if the casino is still small they want to use AI it's the same they need more budget for AI development.
But if the casino is big and has a lot of customers, it is more likely to use Al to help in service to make it more efficient and fast. This also really helps the team to complete some work, such as confirming verification, like what you did in just 5 minutes.
But if all existing casinos implement this, it might be very pleasant where every time they verify or submit a complaint, they can deal with it immediately.

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May 26, 2023, 06:33:54 AM
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^^^^^
In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality.  
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley
Now there's a thought: a world where KYC is as trivial as changing socks, thanks to our buddy AI! It sounds tempting until you stop and think about what happens when things go south. Yes, artificial intelligence has come a long way, but remember that old saying about putting all your eggs in one basket? Trusting AI with personal data sounds like a privacy breach waiting to happen, considering the frequency of cyberattacks these days.

The skepticism towards banks maintaining data confidentiality does hold water, given the numerous data leaks we've seen in recent years. But before we start pointing fingers, let's remember that we voluntarily feed our data into social media platforms faster than a toddler with a tub of ice cream. Perhaps the key lies in making KYC processes more robust, and data encryption techniques stronger. And while we're at it, let's hope for an AI that respects our privacy as much as a librarian respects silence!
I'm afraid, dear friend, that thinking of AI as a good, noble person is a big mistake!  The fact is that those people who lay algorithms in AI are completely different people with their own ideology, upbringing and worldview in general.  And since, first of all, AI is now being developed for military purposes, respectively, AI algorithms must be tough, cruel and aimed at defeating it at any cost.  There can be no talk of any nobility here.  So in general, with such "teachers" as it is now, it's time for humanity to start being afraid and not trusting AI.  So whatever one may say, we all get an option like from the blockbuster "Matrix".  Well, maybe, of course, AI won’t make batteries out of people, but it doesn’t seem to give anything good to people either.  
Although everyone thinks that AI will definitely be useful.  
But I doubt it.  And this is how I think.

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May 26, 2023, 09:53:51 AM
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Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

Whether it's done manually or using an AI robot depends on the casino itself whether they have a lot of customers there and are already a big casino because if the casino is still small they want to use AI it's the same they need more budget for AI development.
But if the casino is big and has a lot of customers, it is more likely to use Al to help in service to make it more efficient and fast. This also really helps the team to complete some work, such as confirming verification, like what you did in just 5 minutes.
But if all existing casinos implement this, it might be very pleasant where every time they verify or submit a complaint, they can deal with it immediately.

Either we like it or not the world is already rotating round about the new and advanced technology of ChatGPT using AI, there's nothing than to embrace it, other technologies will still be in use like the web 3 and many more, you can imagine when we all begins with the uae of a 2G network technology before it turns 3G then now we are using 4G and with time the 5G will soon be used everywhere, as we are going so is the advanced technology moving and with this new era, forget about KYC or security bridge because this metaverse technology has turned everything more easier and simpler with maximum security, so why wouldn't gambling also advanced along the way with this improvements.
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May 26, 2023, 10:21:26 AM
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Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
Most services that I've seen mostly have automated verification processes where if you meet the requirements set by default, your verification will be done pretty quickly, right after the application is processed, but if there are mistakes or problems like no clear documents or mismatching information, then the case is handled manually which takes more time.

When a case is handled manually, it depends on how many existing requests a platform has and your case will be handled according to that, most of the time it's on a first come first served basis so you will have to wait until the previous applications are cleared.
Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley

     -   I don't get your point mate about kyc becoming formal. While there is no AI yet, there are actually other crypto gamblings that ask for kyc when the casino is under a regulated business by the government.

That means, the only ones who don't formally ask for KYC are the crypto casinos that are not regulated by the government, which in short illegally require KYC even though they are not registered with the government.

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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
To avoid situations like these that might lead you to believe otherwise about online casinos that they're scam, I believe you should make sure your KYC is thoroughly verified before making transactions with them. However, I cannot consider it a casino scam because my KYC was unsuccessful; it may succeed if you try it again, even though verifying KYC does not take a long time to be verified.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I hope you are aware that these are merely promises, and they are free to decide to stop making them whenever they please. For example, some online casinos offer bonuses, particularly when they are first starting out, in an effort to draw in more customers. However, as they grow, they gradually stop doing so. For this reason, in my opinion, it is not a scam because I might still sign up with them even if they stop offering bonuses.

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May 30, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
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What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
To avoid situations like these that might lead you to believe otherwise about online casinos that they're scam, I believe you should make sure your KYC is thoroughly verified before making transactions with them. However, I cannot consider it a casino scam because my KYC was unsuccessful; it may succeed if you try it again, even though verifying KYC does not take a long time to be verified.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I hope you are aware that these are merely promises, and they are free to decide to stop making them whenever they please. For example, some online casinos offer bonuses, particularly when they are first starting out, in an effort to draw in more customers. However, as they grow, they gradually stop doing so. For this reason, in my opinion, it is not a scam because I might still sign up with them even if they stop offering bonuses.
That's why before playing read the casino rules if in the end they ask for KYC at the end of the game or when you win big money, it's normal if we win big money let alone withdraw it, other big casinos may also have rules like this, if we really object with KYC we should play decentralized casino sites, but if we play in licensed casinos then we must be prepared with KYC regulations.

The KYC process is not difficult, if the Casino complicates it then they can be a fraud and anyone has the right to provide evidence that the casino is really cheating and complicating the KYC process, speaking of bonuses almost all casinos on average give welcome bonuses to attract users, but most people are too hasty play and deposit big money then play without reading the rules about KYC. the problem is with us not in the casino.  Cheesy

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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley

Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.

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May 30, 2023, 10:16:39 PM
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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley

Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.

From all that they have said, it is best to show that the kyc in AI mode is the only best thing that can be done to avoid taking so long to approve, and that is something that annoys the fact that it cannot be approved quickly, the Casinos have their support and people who do it, but I have seen that some last up to 3 days, and for many that is a long time and if money is going to be withdrawn, it causes more inconvenience, that is why the best way that casinos can do is to acquire this technology so that the processes are better.
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May 30, 2023, 10:33:47 PM
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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley

Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.

From all that they have said, it is best to show that the kyc in AI mode is the only best thing that can be done to avoid taking so long to approve, and that is something that annoys the fact that it cannot be approved quickly, the Casinos have their support and people who do it, but I have seen that some last up to 3 days, and for many that is a long time and if money is going to be withdrawn, it causes more inconvenience, that is why the best way that casinos can do is to acquire this technology so that the processes are better.

Approving out KYC details is something that could really be done via AI but we know that human verification is something that would really be relevant because there are really things which cant really be precisely be seen or checked out specially on image quality or the similarity of those kyc documents into that actual selfie or whatsoever that correlates to it on which that it doesnt able to beat up
human verification process or those support or technical team.It is really just that pertain on how fast they do process out.

When it comes to verification then it might be a little off topic but i do like on how Binance do make out that process on which it do only take few minutes. Dont know on how they do it as long
you do able to comply those exact things then it is really that almost instant in speaking about verification. I havent tested out to comply some KYC on a gambling site on which
i couldnt tell on how long it would be but basing up on your statement then this is something much longer.

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May 31, 2023, 04:56:47 AM
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Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

Whether it's done manually or using an AI robot depends on the casino itself whether they have a lot of customers there and are already a big casino because if the casino is still small they want to use AI it's the same they need more budget for AI development.
But if the casino is big and has a lot of customers, it is more likely to use Al to help in service to make it more efficient and fast. This also really helps the team to complete some work, such as confirming verification, like what you did in just 5 minutes.
But if all existing casinos implement this, it might be very pleasant where every time they verify or submit a complaint, they can deal with it immediately.

Either we like it or not the world is already rotating round about the new and advanced technology of ChatGPT using AI, there's nothing than to embrace it, other technologies will still be in use like the web 3 and many more, you can imagine when we all begins with the uae of a 2G network technology before it turns 3G then now we are using 4G and with time the 5G will soon be used everywhere, as we are going so is the advanced technology moving and with this new era, forget about KYC or security bridge because this metaverse technology has turned everything more easier and simpler with maximum security, so why wouldn't gambling also advanced along the way with this improvements.
What you say is true and I agree with all of that but it needs to be underlined if not everyone can accept increasingly advanced technological developments in certain areas such as the use of AI in casinos or web3 as you say because you yourself can judge that there are many too gamblers who can't accept Al in the casino and also don't fully trust Web3.
But it all depends on each gambler because everyone's thinking is different.
Regarding the development of web3 technology, can we see which Web3-based casinos have been able to achieve success? I don't think there is one yet because they still have to develop even better to gain the trust of gamblers because on average Web3 is still widely suspected by gamblers as a casino with potential for scams.

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June 01, 2023, 01:21:51 PM
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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley
Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.
You are right that KYC will still be a mandatory step even if Artificial Intelligence is used to verify the information or whatever, an AI model can basically not work unless we feed it with data sets and for it to recheck a user's identity or something, we will need to feed it with data and that data can only be collected through KYC procedures, so that will always be a necessary step.

Unlike many people, I believe KYC will start getting bigger over time and there will be a need for it almost everywhere knowing that anyone can easily cheat a system with minimal KYC requirements, so these requirements will keep increasing only to prevent cheaters and scammers.

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June 01, 2023, 01:35:07 PM
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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley
Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.
You are right that KYC will still be a mandatory step even if Artificial Intelligence is used to verify the information or whatever, an AI model can basically not work unless we feed it with data sets and for it to recheck a user's identity or something, we will need to feed it with data and that data can only be collected through KYC procedures, so that will always be a necessary step.

Unlike many people, I believe KYC will start getting bigger over time and there will be a need for it almost everywhere knowing that anyone can easily cheat a system with minimal KYC requirements, so these requirements will keep increasing only to prevent cheaters and scammers.
When KYC is manually verified then one can verify using fake documents but when AI is involved to verify KYC then no one will be able to complete KYC using any fake document or editing any document. Because artificial intelligence is programmed, robots cannot make mistakes that humans make. And this is why artificial intelligence will play a big role for gambling sites in the future.  And in the future artificial intelligence will be an advanced technology of the world

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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
think that what happened to your friend was a fraud!!  i don't think it's.. because the bonus that was promised from the start must have terms and conditions that apply, it's possible that your friend missed one of the conditions that the gambling site is required to be able to get the bonus they offer, for that it is important to ask customer service in advance about the bonuses or events they are holding.

but, has your friend questioned to the CS for help on the gambling site, if they don't give an answer then it's best if your friend has to forget about the bonus, the big win that your friend got has actually made the owner of the gambling site have a little headache  Cheesy

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June 01, 2023, 06:37:36 PM
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In general, I think that at present, identity recognition technologies have already developed so much that even KYC verification itself will soon seem to be a pure formality.  I think AI has already learned so much, and so much it can use databases of other sources of personal data, that it is no longer a serious problem to accurately determine the identity of the player.  Each of us has already passed KYC so many times that AI can even evaluate the reliability of the information.  For example, according to solid databases that are stored in the banks that we use.  I absolutely do not believe that every bank keeps personal data confidential because there are always leaks of information.  So, apparently, KYC will soon be a formality. 
And the casino will know who you are even without a long boring KYC.  Smiley
Well, I think that KYC is still an important part of casinos and it cannot be replaced by AI. I don't think that AI can identify the person if he had not done the KYC at the casino.

I know there can be many use cases for Artificial Intelligence but as per my understanding AI is not magic that can reveal a person doing gambling is he himself has not disclosed his identity through KYC.
You are right that KYC will still be a mandatory step even if Artificial Intelligence is used to verify the information or whatever, an AI model can basically not work unless we feed it with data sets and for it to recheck a user's identity or something, we will need to feed it with data and that data can only be collected through KYC procedures, so that will always be a necessary step.

Unlike many people, I believe KYC will start getting bigger over time and there will be a need for it almost everywhere knowing that anyone can easily cheat a system with minimal KYC requirements, so these requirements will keep increasing only to prevent cheaters and scammers.
When KYC is manually verified then one can verify using fake documents but when AI is involved to verify KYC then no one will be able to complete KYC using any fake document or editing any document. Because artificial intelligence is programmed, robots cannot make mistakes that humans make. And this is why artificial intelligence will play a big role for gambling sites in the future.  And in the future artificial intelligence will be an advanced technology of the world

I believe that even without AI the casino has many ways of verifying the veracity or authenticity of a customer's document, for that the casinos need to partner with companies specialized in KYC so that they are always 100% sure that they are being fair with any approval or disapproval of customer documents, the main problem is that this question of kyc has become an advantage for some casinos in the sense that some casinos when they see that customer X has a lot of money in the account and see that when I talk about a lot of money in the account I'm talking about $1000, the casino soon prevented the customer from withdrawing money, and how does the casino do that? the casino asked the customer to do KYC

they spend days going around to look like they are investigating the client's documents and after many days they appear to tell the client that the documents that the client provided are false and that for this reason the client's account is closed and that there is nothing left what the casino can do, with that the customer loses all money and the casino keeps the customer's money without the casino being accused of a scam, so AI will not solve the main problem which is the bad conduct of some casinos that use their TOS to keep customer money

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June 01, 2023, 07:23:19 PM
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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
think that what happened to your friend was a fraud!!  i don't think it's.. because the bonus that was promised from the start must have terms and conditions that apply, it's possible that your friend missed one of the conditions that the gambling site is required to be able to get the bonus they offer, for that it is important to ask customer service in advance about the bonuses or events they are holding.

but, has your friend questioned to the CS for help on the gambling site, if they don't give an answer then it's best if your friend has to forget about the bonus, the big win that your friend got has actually made the owner of the gambling site have a little headache  Cheesy
I agree with you that actually what Op asked was very easy to answer just go to customer service and everything will be answered.
I think about bonuses that aren't big or those with tough terms it would be better to forget about them than to make things difficult for myself.

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June 01, 2023, 07:58:47 PM
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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
think that what happened to your friend was a fraud!!  i don't think it's.. because the bonus that was promised from the start must have terms and conditions that apply, it's possible that your friend missed one of the conditions that the gambling site is required to be able to get the bonus they offer, for that it is important to ask customer service in advance about the bonuses or events they are holding.

but, has your friend questioned to the CS for help on the gambling site, if they don't give an answer then it's best if your friend has to forget about the bonus, the big win that your friend got has actually made the owner of the gambling site have a little headache  Cheesy
We didn't know if it could be a scam from the casino or his friend did not meet up to the terms and conditions to receive the bonus. Most time, casinos do have a limit time for a customer to claim there bonus and if they do that late, they bonus must have gone before claiming it.
We need to be aware of the rules that must be taken for us to receive a bonus or else, we might become skeptical of the rules and end up failing to calm at the appropriate time. For me, most bonus should not be in a space of free hours or days before it expires. Enough time suppose to be given.









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June 03, 2023, 02:34:05 PM
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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
think that what happened to your friend was a fraud!!  i don't think it's.. because the bonus that was promised from the start must have terms and conditions that apply, it's possible that your friend missed one of the conditions that the gambling site is required to be able to get the bonus they offer, for that it is important to ask customer service in advance about the bonuses or events they are holding.

but, has your friend questioned to the CS for help on the gambling site, if they don't give an answer then it's best if your friend has to forget about the bonus, the big win that your friend got has actually made the owner of the gambling site have a little headache  Cheesy
We didn't know if it could be a scam from the casino or his friend did not meet up to the terms and conditions to receive the bonus. Most time, casinos do have a limit time for a customer to claim there bonus and if they do that late, they bonus must have gone before claiming it.
We need to be aware of the rules that must be taken for us to receive a bonus or else, we might become skeptical of the rules and end up failing to calm at the appropriate time. For me, most bonus should not be in a space of free hours or days before it expires. Enough time suppose to be given.

Sometimes we are too quick to declare a scam casino without going into the details. This is not that always the casino is wrong, sometimes players are wrong too and sometimes there is a misunderstanding when we fail to read the terms and services. We think that certain actions are right but if we read the terms and conditions, there are actually prohibited.

I recommended gathering enough evidence before declaring the scam label on any casino site.

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