Enough to consider a casino scam?

[Mahanton]

Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.

That's a whole lot of accusations, let's just pray that we don't fall into that kind of hands, even the ones that look most legit could do such a thing. This is not only applicable to casinos, but also to financial institutions and I have proof of that with my past experiences where I am sure that my data was leaked. But at times, the company itself might not know about this, it could be some randy employees they trusted with people's data.

Regardless, we should keep the possibility of our data leak minimal by only using duly registered and regulated companies, which might limit it but can't still guarantee the safeguarding of the leak.

I also had a case when I urgently needed a computer in another city, but I didn't have my laptop with me. I went to an Internet cafe, and they immediately asked me to give my passport for scanning. I refused and left because it's strange to share documents for such a service.

Regarding the online casino, the OP writes that he was asked for KYC only after he decided to withdraw the winnings. I think that in this case the casino does not behave quite correctly. And this is another case when it is very easy to enter money into gambling services, but it is very difficult to withdraw them. I think under such conditions, when trying to enter a deposit on such platforms, they should warn that they will then require a KYC.
If there is no such warning, then the casino can be considered unfair.

Totally unfair or totally shady which it is something that should really be avoided on the first place and this is why its really always been that important that we should really make out some research first before tending
to make out some deposit on a certain casino because we know that no matter how many the legit site is, there would be  always those shady places on which it would really be ending up on scamming peoples funds
or users on which it would really be that a shit situation if ever it would happen into us. I have also that experienced on making up some deposits without having any hassle but on the time that you would really be tending to withdraw your money then this is where things becomes shit and becomes hard because they've been asking on things like KYC and other information which we know that these things are highly
been frowned upon on this space. We do always prefer on having no KYc and no strings attached on the time that you would really be making some huge withdrawal. This is why its really that important
that you should really be looking for any valid and connected information on a certain site on which you do tend to engage on.

[summonerrk]

Totally unfair or totally shady which it is something that should really be avoided on the first place and this is why its really always been that important that we should really make out some research first before tending
to make out some deposit on a certain casino because we know that no matter how many the legit site is, there would be  always those shady places on which it would really be ending up on scamming peoples funds
or users on which it would really be that a shit situation if ever it would happen into us. I have also that experienced on making up some deposits without having any hassle but on the time that you would really be tending to withdraw your money then this is where things becomes shit and becomes hard because they've been asking on things like KYC and other information which we know that these things are highly
been frowned upon on this space. We do always prefer on having no KYc and no strings attached on the time that you would really be making some huge withdrawal. This is why its really that important
that you should really be looking for any valid and connected information on a certain site on which you do tend to engage on.

For some reason, some players like to play on unknown sites, I suspect that this is due to the fact that these sites, like casinos and betting offer bonuses. Like an addition to the first deposit and so on. Therefore, if there is no way to find out the reputation of the casino, then it is an excellent practice to do the following: read the maximum number of reviews on different sites, enter a small deposit and immediately try to withdraw it when winning. Do not wait until the winnings become really big. And if the casino does not ask for documents after a small withdrawal. It will be really strange if they start asking for them after withdrawing a larger win.

[Mahanton]

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For some reason, some players like to play on unknown sites, I suspect that this is due to the fact that these sites, like casinos and betting offer bonuses. Like an addition to the first deposit and so on. Therefore, if there is no way to find out the reputation of the casino, then it is an excellent practice to do the following: read the maximum number of reviews on different sites, enter a small deposit and immediately try to withdraw it when winning. Do not wait until the winnings become really big. And if the casino does not ask for documents after a small withdrawal. It will be really strange if they start asking for them after withdrawing a larger win.

Yes, due to curiosity of some people on why they would  really be testing out those new sites which it would really be that common that there would be no such information if they would tend to make out some research
since it was just still new then it would be understandable.This is where they would really be deciding on testing it out which it should really be just that a small amount rather than on big one because if in case that
the site is really that a shady or not fair at all then you would really just lose a small amount unlike when you do make out huge deposits then it would really be ending up on losing big too.
Always take up considerations on risks taking and dont really be that too confident or really that careless when it comes into these type of decisions.

[wiss19]

Only by being careful when playing gambling or following promos can we do so we don't get caught in a scam casino trap.
Usually, users are caught in such a situation because they follow a promo given by the casino so they are interested and deposit the minimum amount of money required to get the bonus.
Apart from that, we also have to pay attention if we want to do KYC at a casino and only choose casinos that have been proven to be trusted by many people to avoid cases of fraud that still occur frequently.
We don't really know which casino will end up being a scam but as long as we always choose the casino carefully, I think we should be fine.
And even though there will be data leaks in some casinos, I don't think it will happen to us as long as we are careful.

Data leaks and breaches aren't and should be considered scam activity because even the most trusted and reputable businesses have to face these things at some point in their business, I know that it damages their reputation as not being completely secure but I wouldn't blame them for it because hackers and data breaches are always looking for even the smallest windows to do these things and they sometimes get success in finding the vulnerabilities of these businesses.

So if your data is destined to be leaked, nothing can stop that from happening, but for the sake of better security and privacy, one should look for the platforms that are trusted to be the most secure ones in the community so that the chances of such things happening become minimal.

[Onyeeze]

Every casino gambling most have KYC so anyone who is participating in gambling platform I think that it should have it in mind that kyc is necessary but partaking in any gambling platform you have to verify your account with your document so that you will not be penalised or hold because of none proper verification of kyc. Every casino platforms needed documentation because of chance of winning huge amount money and also making your fund's to be safe in the platform.

[Doan9269]

Every casino gambling most have KYC so anyone who is participating in gambling platform I think that it should have it in mind that kyc is necessary but partaking in any gambling platform you have to verify your account with your document so that you will not be penalised or hold because of none proper verification of kyc.

Why should they be hold for not partaking in kyc verification requirements and procedures properly when we already have some casinos that don't request for all these, i think the more the are subjected to regulations the more they finds it a meed to ensure proper documentation of users through kyc verification requirements.

Every casino platforms needed documentation because of chance of winning huge amount money and also making your fund's to be safe in the platform.

Some will bot wait for you to have win a big amount of money before they can make such request, also the gambler doesn't have to wait as well till the time he will want to make a huge withdrawal before submitting their kyc requirements informations to them

[summonerrk]

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For some reason, some players like to play on unknown sites, I suspect that this is due to the fact that these sites, like casinos and betting offer bonuses. Like an addition to the first deposit and so on. Therefore, if there is no way to find out the reputation of the casino, then it is an excellent practice to do the following: read the maximum number of reviews on different sites, enter a small deposit and immediately try to withdraw it when winning. Do not wait until the winnings become really big. And if the casino does not ask for documents after a small withdrawal. It will be really strange if they start asking for them after withdrawing a larger win.

Yes, due to curiosity of some people on why they would  really be testing out those new sites which it would really be that common that there would be no such information if they would tend to make out some research
since it was just still new then it would be understandable.This is where they would really be deciding on testing it out which it should really be just that a small amount rather than on big one because if in case that
the site is really that a shady or not fair at all then you would really just lose a small amount unlike when you do make out huge deposits then it would really be ending up on losing big too.
Always take up considerations on risks taking and dont really be that too confident or really that careless when it comes into these type of decisions.

We all learn from our mistakes:
I had a case when I forgot about this rule and just entered $90 on the poker platform. It looked great and my friend was playing there, the interface was great and the reviews were great. And when I won $50 in the tournament, they wrote to me at my withdrawal request that I need to pass verification. I really needed the money and I sent them my passport scan. Surprisingly, they wrote to me that the quality of the document is poor, although I have always used this scan for verifications! Then the poker platform asked for another document, I sent them my driver's license.  They wouldn't let me withdraw the money anyway, they started asking for another document and my patience snapped.  I realized that I wouldn't get my winnings.
After that, I became very wary of all gambling platforms.

[klidex]

We all learn from our mistakes:
I had a case when I forgot about this rule and just entered $90 on the poker platform. It looked great and my friend was playing there, the interface was great and the reviews were great. And when I won $50 in the tournament, they wrote to me at my withdrawal request that I need to pass verification. I really needed the money and I sent them my passport scan. Surprisingly, they wrote to me that the quality of the document is poor, although I have always used this scan for verifications! Then the poker platform asked for another document, I sent them my driver's license.  They wouldn't let me withdraw the money anyway, they started asking for another document and my patience snapped.  I realized that I wouldn't get my winnings.
After that, I became very wary of all gambling platforms.

The lesson I take away from your case is always choose a reputable casino to register and do KYC early to avoid this problem.
Yes, some people may disagree with KYC but most of the online casinos now require KYC to make large or small withdrawals.
We cannot refuse KYC because nowadays almost all online casinos require KYC and for me there is no doubt doing KYC on trusted gambling sites.

[Odusko]

The lesson I take away from your case is always to choose a reputable casino to register and do KYC early to avoid this problem.
Yes, some people may disagree with KYC but most of the online casinos now require KYC to make large or small withdrawals.
We cannot refuse KYC because nowadays almost all online casinos require KYC and for me, there is no doubt about doing KYC on trusted gambling sites.[/left]

The thing is that, whether a reputable casino or not, once you violate the casino's terms and conditions it becomes the right of the casino to take whatever decisions they deem fit for the crime, and ignorant is not an excuse for offenses that border on casinos revenues, so if you know your hand and clean and you do not care about KYC to become easier for the player to skip reading casino TOS since the player will obviously be ready to provide KYC documents to get verified  if the need arises.

[OgNasty]

Whether or not a casino is a scam is something that is typical users can’t really do much about. The best thing you can do is try to use reputable service providers and as soon as you get a sense that something is off, get the hell away from it. I feel like online gambling is still a bit of a Wild West, so just try to protect yourself as best as possible to avoid getting into a bad situation.

[Renampun]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

does your friend read the TOS of the gambling site very carefully because if in fact it is different from what is written in their TOS then it can be categorized as a mild fraud!

I don't know how many gambling sites actually don't have good management and good money circulation to be able to handle a lot of users because it could be that the gambling site where your friends play is a site that doesn't have good credibility, if there are signs of fraud on the gambling site That's why it's a good idea not to continue playing on that gambling site.

[Asuspawer09]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

For 8,000$ I think that's a good amount of money so I'll do KYC just for the 8k$. I mean you could ask for their help on why your KYC is not accepted if it doesn't seems reasonable that is really suspicious and I will consider that as a red flag. I would actually do KYC so just I could gamble but if you didn't know that you need to do KYC before and you already profit 8k$ I wouldn't mind doing KYC since I already win a good amount of profit.

Most of the time it is just normal to have this kind of bonus and also for sure you need to make a deposit first it's some sort of advertisement on their website, If you are sure, you need everything that is needed and there is a problem that you didn't receive the bonus amount it's a red flag as well.

Just don't gamble on this kind of website if you start to get a lot of red flags for sure there is something fishy going on there, probably it's not a scam website at that moment and they operating but for sure the scam could happen anytime.

[LUCKMCFLY]

When we play in a casino we will always have in our minds the option of winning anyway, that is the hope, but it is a hope that is built on castles in the air, because the safest thing in a casino is always the option of losing, I do take that into consideration, firstly because it is good not to get excited and secondly, the advantage of the casino will always be evident, we must first understand all that, then if we know what the system of a casino is like, we can have our feet on the ground,, and that is good, I do not want to say that you will always have to lose , there is the opportunity to earn but with more option that we have clarity about our risks.

In the casinos we will never force us to make a bet, we ourselves are the ones who decide whether to make the bets or not, that is why there are many people who blame the casinos for having their addiction problem , I think that the addiction problem It starts with the same Person.

[traderethereum]

Only by being careful when playing gambling or following promos can we do so we don't get caught in a scam casino trap.
Usually, users are caught in such a situation because they follow a promo given by the casino so they are interested and deposit the minimum amount of money required to get the bonus.
Apart from that, we also have to pay attention if we want to do KYC at a casino and only choose casinos that have been proven to be trusted by many people to avoid cases of fraud that still occur frequently.
We don't really know which casino will end up being a scam but as long as we always choose the casino carefully, I think we should be fine.
And even though there will be data leaks in some casinos, I don't think it will happen to us as long as we are careful.

Data leaks and breaches aren't and should be considered scam activity because even the most trusted and reputable businesses have to face these things at some point in their business, I know that it damages their reputation as not being completely secure but I wouldn't blame them for it because hackers and data breaches are always looking for even the smallest windows to do these things and they sometimes get success in finding the vulnerabilities of these businesses.

So if your data is destined to be leaked, nothing can stop that from happening, but for the sake of better security and privacy, one should look for the platforms that are trusted to be the most secure ones in the community so that the chances of such things happening become minimal.

But at least a trusted business will always protect its data so it doesn't leak and secure the customer's data safely.
Trusted casinos or other trusted businesses know that it's about the reputation they've earned so they will try their best to guard against things like hacking.
But we as users must also realize that once our data is on the internet, it will not be 100% safe because there are bound to be people who want to try to get the data for their interests.
We must be careful and only use trusted platforms in any case to avoid theft of the data.
And we can avoid this by not sending the data to any site so we can be calm from being hacked.

[Doan9269]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

does your friend read the TOS of the gambling site very carefully because if in fact it is different from what is written in their TOS then it can be categorized as a mild fraud!

I don't know how many gambling sites actually don't have good management and good money circulation to be able to handle a lot of users because it could be that the gambling site where your friends play is a site that doesn't have good credibility, if there are signs of fraud on the gambling site That's why it's a good idea not to continue playing on that gambling site.

Before we can accuse the gambling platforms for being responsible for what we experienced from using them, we also need to check if there are nothing missing from our own side which we are yet to comply on from their demands, the gambling sites have their own role to fulfill by ensuring they maintain a security network on their website and maintain their websites but if you discover they aren't reputable enough then you may tryout new ones for your satisfaction.

[Reatim]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

does your friend read the TOS of the gambling site very carefully because if in fact it is different from what is written in their TOS then it can be categorized as a mild fraud!

I don't know how many gambling sites actually don't have good management and good money circulation to be able to handle a lot of users because it could be that the gambling site where your friends play is a site that doesn't have good credibility, if there are signs of fraud on the gambling site That's why it's a good idea not to continue playing on that gambling site.

Before we can accuse the gambling platforms for being responsible for what we experienced from using them, we also need to check if there are nothing missing from our own side which we are yet to comply on from their demands, the gambling sites have their own role to fulfill by ensuring they maintain a security network on their website and maintain their websites but if you discover they aren't reputable enough then you may tryout new ones for your satisfaction.

I think a legit claims will never accuse any sites without being sure of their experiences and their claims because the problem here is that we sometimes missed some rules.
and that is the situation why there are cases  being filed mostly here in bitcointalk.

but there is exception and that is about those cheater that being denied from their winning that filing ang crying problem but cannot prove their case.
there are lots of that in this being help since then.

[piebeyb]

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.

Yes, you are right that you need to look at each case in depth, sometimes when the casino is honest but the gambler tries to play fraudulently and then gets caught red-handed for making accounts taking advantage of a lot of promotional bonuses, that's why I don't want to accuse when there is a case of accusing gamblers or casinos because there needs to be some kind of evidence screenshots are also proof of transactions to make it easier to solve the problem.

The case that usually occurs in this forum is that sometimes there are many gamblers who cheat and cannot provide evidence of their accusations to the casino, which makes them close the case because they are embarrassed, that's why if a casino asks for KYC, you shouldn't have to worry as long as the casino is big and trusted, give KYC then it's a problem done but if it doesn't mean the casino wants to steal gambler's money.

[GigaBit]

Every casino gambling most have KYC so anyone who is participating in gambling platform I think that it should have it in mind that kyc is necessary but partaking in any gambling platform you have to verify your account with your document so that you will not be penalised or hold because of none proper verification of kyc. Every casino platforms needed documentation because of chance of winning huge amount money and also making your fund's to be safe in the platform.

There are some gamblers who often do not give much importance to KYC. Although KYC is mandatory on some platforms, gamblers are gambling without KYC. Such gamblers gamble at extreme risk. If ever they win big in gambling they can get into big trouble. If the gambling company prevents him from withdrawing his money due to any defect in KYC, the gambler will be convicted. If it is also a license based gambling platform then he will not be able to fight legally. Before gambling, a gambler must choose a good casino or gambling platform and should complete KYC verification with valid documents.

[elevates]

There are some gamblers who often do not give much importance to KYC. Although KYC is mandatory on some platforms, gamblers are gambling without KYC. Such gamblers gamble at extreme risk. If ever they win big in gambling they can get into big trouble. If the gambling company prevents him from withdrawing his money due to any defect in KYC, the gambler will be convicted. If it is also a license based gambling platform then he will not be able to fight legally. Before gambling, a gambler must choose a good casino or gambling platform and should complete KYC verification with valid documents.

That is not the case every time, do not forget the 1xbit scam and how many here lost money. I do agree with your point of view, what you are saying cannot be considered as a scam. It is a mistake that has been genuinely done by the gambler. In most cases, they forget to read the terms and then they come back with a scam thread. A licensed based platform has to follow the rules wherein it is mandatory to do KYC, I agree with that point too. What happens when the gambler deletes his account? Does the casino delete or remove the KYC document? Some of them will do but to a larger extent, casinos might not. I do not have any proof here as there is zero transparency related to KYC. 

[maydna]

There are some gamblers who often do not give much importance to KYC. Although KYC is mandatory on some platforms, gamblers are gambling without KYC. Such gamblers gamble at extreme risk. If ever they win big in gambling they can get into big trouble. If the gambling company prevents him from withdrawing his money due to any defect in KYC, the gambler will be convicted. If it is also a license based gambling platform then he will not be able to fight legally. Before gambling, a gambler must choose a good casino or gambling platform and should complete KYC verification with valid documents.

I think a gambler who doesn't care much about KYC is a gambler who just gambles for fun and doesn't think about making money out of gambling. They may never use big money, so they're not under the supervision of the casino, so the casino doesn't feel the need to ask them to do KYC. Also, sticking with the small money keeps them out of trouble because they don't chase after the win. But when they are required to do KYC, they may move to another casino that is less strict when it comes to KYC. This is why a gambler must choose a suitable casino for himself because everyone has their own standards.