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April 10, 2023, 08:32:22 AM |
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You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.
And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
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April 10, 2023, 08:34:15 AM |
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casino games are meant to be fun for you and business for the casinos. When they are developing a software they are making sure it is bringing them profit otherwise you and them both are gambling and in business no one gamble. Most of the games are close source so there are no such way to check the source and understand the code. When you are playing in a casino you are just trusting them.
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Plaguedeath
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April 10, 2023, 08:41:52 AM |
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Make sure you're gamble on reputable casino and have provably fair system.
If they have provably fair system, you can verify all of your bets. If you've verify all of your bets and the result is lost 20 times in a row, you think it's unfair and the game is rigged, you can report to the casino and ask them about it.
If their response doesn't make you satisfied, you can create a scam accusation thread.
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April 10, 2023, 08:49:31 AM |
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There is no sure way to know that a casino you just started using is rigged, or a casino that you have been using will not suddenly decide one day to rig their games. You just have to follow reviews of a casino before you choose to play on them and also still follow up recent reviews when you are playing on them to know of any recent development or reviews that suggests rigging. One review is not enough to conclude that a casino is rigged, a couple of concrete reviews that a casino has rigged their games should be enough for you to find another casino to play with.
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April 10, 2023, 09:16:20 AM |
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Mostly we think of this when we are on a losing streak or when others accuse casinos of having losing streaks, but it is still possible. Detecting it is difficult. I haven't really heard that the casino rigged some games that were very popular, or I haven't heard it, but the only thing we can do is gather other users to see if they experienced the same thing as you and try to imitate it again if you've seen that the game is rigged. It is really difficult to accuse if there is no proof, so I could say that we have nothing to do with it if we don't have proof you should stay away from that casino and find another legit or popular casino.
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April 10, 2023, 09:30:51 AM |
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I don't play slots a lot. When I want to gamble at an online casino, I usually choose games that have a provably fair random number generator, so I can be sure that the casino is not cheating me. This means that the game is protected against cheating and the results can be verified by anyone, at any time. In addition, I like sports betting. It gives me a different kind of thrill, and I enjoy doing research on the teams and players before placing my bets. As with any form of gambling, there is always a risk of encountering rigged games or fraudulent practices. However, sports betting has the advantage of being based on actual events and not solely on chance. This means that the outcome is not determined by a machine or a computer algorithm, but rather by the performance of the players or teams involved. Of course, there is always some risk involved in betting, but I find that it's more manageable with sports than with other types of gambling. Plus, I can use my knowledge and analysis to increase my chances of winning.
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April 10, 2023, 09:37:16 AM |
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verify always license and any kind of regulation... I believe that the casinos that offer "provably fair" games are the only ones that can guarantee a certain reputation. General speaking, it is not at all easy to understand if a casino is a scam without following a whole series of tracks. the first of all is related to reviews. you have to read them carefully to understand what problems they have had and if they are still the same. then you have to pay attention to their promotions because if they offer something "too convenient" it is definitely a scam ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 10, 2023, 09:52:40 AM |
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It always felt like it was rigged when you lost it all after playing Martingale with your last money. 10 to 20 in a losing streak, it must really be rigged but heck it happens many times already. It applies to most luck base games. One way to check its hash and if anything doesn't check out, then the game is rigged.
But I guess the casino has more ways to prevent itself from getting caught. And all you got to do is just move on.
Exactly, this was what I have in mind, because I feel like these is no way one can figure out if a casino is cheating or not because losing is also part of the game, you can be having a really bad day when gambling and you lose all your money, even if you complain or accuse this casino to cheating there is no way to prove it. Luck based games can be rigged as well since casinos are already programmed to make players lose more and win less, this is not a game between player A and player B, this is you against the casino. I believe there is nothing to do here than try different types of online casinos and choose the one that you prefer the most or works better for you.
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April 10, 2023, 11:58:14 AM |
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Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before?
Yes I used livecasino and I think they are sister company of Sportsbet, it works very good for casinos games but they dont have any sports betting like Sportsbet. They both have very similar design with small changes and different colors, but it is almost the same thing and reputation should be good for both of them.
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April 10, 2023, 05:32:16 PM |
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
What I can tell you is to avoid casinos which don't have provably fair feature and to avoid games from third party services (mainly slot machines) which you are doubtful about the legitimacy of the provider. Important to notice in this case I'm not talking about the casino platform you are playing, but the company which provides them the games. A same company provides games to a plethora of online casinos. In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results. Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.
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April 10, 2023, 06:16:32 PM |
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In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results.
20 losses in a row are common to dice if we happen to be playing in a long session. This is another reason why Martingale is devastating to use in Dice games if we plan to play a long session. Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.
Scam casinos don't only deny withdrawal but also their game house edge is rigged, having more house edge percentage than the regular one. So it is always better to look for a casino that is reputable and licensed. This way we can avoid rigged games.
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April 10, 2023, 06:25:03 PM |
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so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For the in-house games of a casino, try to verify the result of the game if you have doubts about the fairness of it. You can verify it on the casino by changing the seed, otherwise you can verify the result on some casino related website (e.g. BTCGOSU Provably Fair Verifier). There is nothing to worry about the fairness of the in-house games if a casino has RNG certificate. But, you have to trust the provider for the slots and table games. I remember the case of luckygames back then as they tried to rig their games due to one of their winning players.
Luckygames was very popular casino in 2017 and 2018. It used to be one of my favourite casino. I was surprised when I heard that Luckygames was manipulating the result of their game. They had shut down their business when the news spread widely. The Crypto Gambling Foundation had published an article about it: Luckygames.io – The monarch of manipulation
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April 10, 2023, 06:42:43 PM |
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There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like
Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Technically, it's almost impossible to know when a casino game is rigged, maybe one of the easiest way is if you have a friend and you both bet on the same game but in opposite directions, and still, you both lost the game, then it simply means that the game is rigged by the casino, because since you and your friend bet in opposite directions, one of you is supposed to win.. The best way to avoid being a victim to such is to only play on casinos one trust, casinos with good track record and reputation.
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You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.
And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
we to regulate the way we bet and gamble on different casinos so that we are not going to end up been the loser. There are so many fake bonuses on many of these online gambling sites and if we are not careful or know what we are doing, we might lose big on our capital because of little greed of cashing out really quick.
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April 10, 2023, 07:06:36 PM |
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I think that licensed casinos have to prove their "provably fair" claim. I am not sure how that exactly works though. Perhaps there are auditing firms who take care of looking at the code or perhaps the games themselves are open source so anyone can take a look at how they work? With traditional physical casinos there are auditors who come by and check the slot machines and tables and so on to make sure there is nothing out of place. Perhaps there are random checks without the casino owners knowledge in the digital versions as well? With cryptocurrency it should be even easier to check the inflow and outflow of money.
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April 10, 2023, 07:17:43 PM |
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There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like
Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
You don’t have to worry if you are playing in a reputable online casino as cheating or rigged games are hardly to exist. They have that provably fair system wherein you can actually make a complaint and justify it if ever. But in most cases, rigged games are never observed in licensed casinos. However, if you chose to play in grey areas, expect that some games are rigged so you have to be cautious at all times. They can’t assure the players security so you have to secure yourself from being cheated if not by the casino, but maybe from your co-gamblers.
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April 10, 2023, 07:20:15 PM |
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You can ask for audit documentation that shows actual RTP on the specific game/casino, otherwise, you can't individually pick a game and try to figure out RTP with small wagers. Even if you may able to spin slots for million bets, it is not enough to gather real data, unfortunately. The real reason behind it is the average payout depends on game statistics that have been determined mathematically during the creation process. As you mentioned, if you lose 20 times back-to-back in the same game, it doesn't prove anything. You just made a gambling decision and lost money on it, no need to look for anything else behind this scene.
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April 10, 2023, 07:59:24 PM |
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There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like
Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you.
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April 10, 2023, 09:27:21 PM |
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There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like
Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you. Casino rigging the game can't be verified by large data samples. One of the reasons is that gambling produces random results unless the specification of the game script is checked and found a suspicious set-up, we cannot use the gambling statistical analysis in proving that the casino is rigging the game. So it will take a technical team that is knowledgeable of the default set-up of games that can detect irregularities in the game script to know if the game is rigging. It does include validating the current script setup of the game and the original setup or default setup of the game.
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April 10, 2023, 09:34:51 PM |
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There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like
Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc
But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.
My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casinos nowadays does really have that kind of verifier which if you are somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to technicality then you could really be that able to verify for yourself whether they are cheating or not but of course its not something that give out 100% sure that it is really that fair at all but at least they are confident on showing off those hashes compared into those who arent showing anything at all. This is why it would really be depending if you are really that keen on finding these things. One thing that lets me assure and make me that confident that im dealing with the right place is that you should stick on where people been sticking on.You should be playing on places where lots of people been playing which this do indicate that this is fair than on touching up those non so popular.
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