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April 09, 2023, 11:42:02 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
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April 09, 2023, 11:49:37 PM
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My opinion is that it is practically impossible to happen in free countries.
Even if a person is "addicted", the individual is free to make the choice to gamble or not. It is not an activity where the company forces the person to gamble.
Just make the comparison with addictions to drink and cigarettes, nobody is forbidden to buy or consume.
There can be discouraging actions, but a certificate like this I find extremely difficult.

Controlling countries can easily make gambling illegal or not allow the individual.
I believe that most gambling sites contain a readme with the information that everyone is responsible for the bets and the money.

In your opinion, who would issue this certificate? Who would have the right to decide whether or not the individual can bet?


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April 09, 2023, 11:56:44 PM
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That is an impossible thing to happen. Why just in gambling? How about other considered sinful activities like liquor, cigarettes, etc.

And online casinos? How can they even monitor such things? What are the responsible gambler traits should be like?

No way the government will ask "online" casinos to implement such things.

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April 09, 2023, 11:57:50 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
This idea might not be effective online because casinos might not be able to enforce these laws. Who will issue these certificates and what are the criteria that will be used to issue them it? Even addicted gamblers will get the certificate from authorities because  I don't think there will be any means of identifying gambling addicts except through their financial statements. And most crypto gamblers always want to keep their gambling life secret which is why they prefer using cryptocurrencies.

In my country, most people that don't want the Covid-19 vaccine were able to bribe hospital officials with money for vaccine cards or certificate. That is how gamble addicts will have unhindered access to this gambling certificate. People will always lose their wealth to gambling if they gamble without control. Government should increase the rate of addiction preventive awareness mainly among underaged gambling because children are prone to addiction.

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April 09, 2023, 11:59:10 PM
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I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.
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April 10, 2023, 12:31:58 AM
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I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.

I prefer to have a dissenting opinion because there is really nothing impossible online, thirty years ago no one would have thought that you can play casinos in the comfort of your home but we have hundreds of them right now.
the requirement need not apply to all players but to specific types of players that contribute to being compulsive gamblers there's the possibility of casinos complying because of the license issuer requirements and it should be put in their TOS.
It's not really a good thing but the government and authorities will always have a way, so this is not really a remote scenario, in my opinion, the possibility of anything is always there.
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April 10, 2023, 12:41:57 AM
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Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.

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April 10, 2023, 01:14:22 AM
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That will be too much but if it will be targetting specific gamblers like gamblers losing millions of dollars, I don't have a problem with it as I am not in that category but definitely the casino will suffer because these people are casino's cash cows and if these are the requirement of their license issue they might run their casino without a license or get their license from other issuers if possible.
The beauty of Cryptocurrency casinos is privacy and anonymity something that will be taken out once the issuers implemented this
I don't think the majority of the gambling community will adhere to this.


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April 10, 2023, 01:24:00 AM
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Unless the government put them in this? to apply such action then they will proceed , but gambling sites or owner will never implement this themselves, who cares about what happen to the gambler? who cares about their life? casino has only one concern and that is our money lol.
yeah there are still casino that gives privilege to their players and some gives good return but accept that mate that this is for money.
like us who gamble? we need either Money or fun.
Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.
in this I will completely agree .

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April 10, 2023, 01:35:10 AM
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This is always possible. This is a big WIN for everybody but I believe there will be a hard time for the government to fully implement this.
It's difficult also to predict how such regulations would be put into place and enforced, and it's likely that governments and online casinos would need to work together quite closely.

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April 10, 2023, 01:54:40 AM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
How would one even consider a gambler a "responsible" one? Sounds like a lot of paperwork, and if other casinos don't follow it then the effort simply is just wasted. Besides, casinos are a business, they may take into account a users personal interest by offering warnings, but no way in hell are they going to put out manpower to handle all that stuff, it's a loss of potential customers (since a lot would probably just not do it since a pain, kyc already is, imagine this being added).

The idea made me think up of a centralized group that handles registrations of gamblers though, so that there's like a one for all account type of thing so that KYC is only done once and tracking is much easier but, well, the hard part is trying to get a centralized group that can handle casinos in all countries to form though.

 
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April 10, 2023, 01:59:51 AM
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If there is a responsible gambler certificate it will be another form of corruption, the gambler can easily get it even though he is not a responsible gambler because it will be the same as a casino license that can be purchased even though the casino ultimately commits fraud and the licensee does nothing. What is happening now will remain like that, the gambler must be responsible for himself if he is addicted then he must find a party that can help him get out of the addiction, and the casino will not be responsible for the addiction of his players unless the players themselves do self-exclusion because of the impact Gambling has been damaging for example on his finances.

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April 10, 2023, 02:25:14 AM
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there is always a possibilities because we knew how harder it is for the casino to operate and serve gamblers as the government because restrictions and rules will always be to apply.
But I also believe that Gambling sites don't want this implemented unless being forced.
as I can see the insult towards that gamblers being question while he has his money to risk and play.
this will  only be applied to those who might be borrowing capital but for the capable? i don't think there is a need to comply.

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April 10, 2023, 04:28:41 AM
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If it is up to the casinos, they will not ask for these certificates since they all want the gamblers to lose.

I wouldn't really expect the government to do this with the intention to protect someone from getting addicted or spending more money. In the future, we already have CBDC where the government can just shut down your CBDC account and expect to see you homeless soon.

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April 10, 2023, 04:33:56 AM
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if the casino or government does that then where do they get the money from, isn't that funny if it's implemented, for example cigarettes in my country almost all cigarette packs are labeled with pictures of diseases caused by smoking and written in big bans for smoking but all return to cigarette addicts, cigarettes increasingly in demand, then if the casino and government apply the certificate you mean. whether that will change an addict for the better, not really, after all it's not going to happen

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April 10, 2023, 04:52:13 AM
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 This will not be possible because gambling is made for adults that is from 18 years and above
 At this age the government believes that you can decide on your actions before putting it into display. Government are benefiting from Casinos and the casinos are into  business, which they have meet up to the government regulatory policy before operation. In a country where gambling is legal people have the freedom to gamble or not,therefore a certificate will not be required for you to have access to gamble. Addiction is a common thing as long as we are humans,if you give so much time to whatever activities you are into it then becomes an habit to you. Sex,smoking, drinking, gambling, taking of hard drugs can easily make you an addict and can lead to destruction of one's life,if not gotten rid of. There is always a warning to these kind of activities because the company and government knows their implications. So if after been warned,you went ahead and become an addict whose fault is it ?
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April 10, 2023, 06:06:04 AM
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gambling activity it is the freedom of everyone who wants to do it. the rule of asking for certificates will only make things worse in the gambling world.
and for me, if the government implements this method, many gamblers will disagree when gambling is an absolute right or someone's freedom to do so, but must be limited by rules like that, of course gamblers will be angry if that happens, while customer privacy is very important for gamblers who don't want to show the certificate to the government or to the casino.

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April 10, 2023, 06:06:39 AM
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a license to gamble? sure, there might be a possibility(since we don't really know whether it'll happen or not), but if you ask me, I don't think the government will impose something like this. requiring people to have a "responsible gambler certificate" in order to gamble would heavily affect the gambling industry in their country and they could lose a lot of revenue from it(which I am certain they don't want to happen). apart from that doing this could cause people to have a strong negative reaction to it and could result in protests or revolt(as yahoo62278 mentioned).

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April 10, 2023, 06:12:34 AM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

I don't think that this is a good idea though for casinos, I mean everyone is welcome to play, not unless you are underage or you are a suspicious person. It's business and I don't see them restricting anyone from entering or playing, whether online or offline casinos.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

If government wanted to protect everyone from gambling, then they should ban it simple as that.

But as you can see there are countries around the world that has a lot of casinos, meaning they support it at some point because they might have been getting benefits from casinos, specially during the pandemic wherein gambling was one source of income from government.

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April 10, 2023, 06:14:52 AM
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The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
What the government will work more towards is how they can maximize taxes in gambling, they do not care if you win or lose. The gambling sites have some ways like articles that gamblers can read for not to be addicted, but how many gamblers are reading that, also that the gambling sites prefer people to lose so that they can have money. So it is gamblers that should be wise, not addicted, and they should be gambling in a responsible way than thinking that the government are ready to restrict gamblers in a way no freedom again.

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