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April 11, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
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It's useless to have such certificate because there are few unlicensed casinos where you can gamble without need to worry about KYC and other verification, so an addict can still gamble in unlicensed casino because he don't have to submit a certificate. I'm not really sure if in the future the casino will implement this kind certificate in able to gamble in their casino, this will make people not favor to gamble due to many rules need to follow and this will decrease the traffic.
People would be finding out places on which they would be able to avoid up these compliance or giving or showing certificate on a certain gambling platform plus isnt a bit heavy or too much when a certain business would really be asking for this kind of additional required things on the time that they would be tending to play on a site? Its true that its not really that compulsory on sending or complying out because there are places
which arent regulated which means that everyone could really be taking such option and would be playing on those place without hassling themselves on such thing about having those shit certificates.
It isnt also a solid thing that would be telling that a certain person wasnt addicted.

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April 11, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

Casino is a business, so if there is no need or regulation to ask player of Respnsible Gambling certificate then they will not ask it.  Besides, the government or the licensing office will have a hard time determining people whether they are responsible gambler or not.  If they present the evaluation with question, then it can be easily cheated by lying on the answers.  So I think that it is impossible for the casino to have such requirement.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I do not think the government will implement such kind of regulation.  If the government do then it will greatly negatively affect the gambling business.  And the government doesn't like their tax income hindered, do they?

This particular aspect is very subjective and also, there's no point in implementing it as users can give a different answer to satisfy such requirement.


Players will not exert an effort to provide such a certificate in the future unless all casinos will implement it because if a single casino will do it, gamblers will just look for other casinos with lighter regulations. I also don't get the sense of asking for such a document because KYC would be enough and no one has to show off any proof that they're responsible gamblers.
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April 11, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I guess if that will be implemented in the future, I bet this is the beginning of casinos bankruptcy because if most of the gamblers will be discover that they are addicted to gambling, then they will not be allowed to gamble, thus creating less profits on the casinos. And since the government is also making quite a good income from casinos, then they will also lost it since the casinos are no longer profiting. So I don’t think the government will adopt it.
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April 11, 2023, 10:33:51 PM
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Some government won't think of this because they benefit from the taxes that they collect from the casinos and some even are relying into this business as their main source of country's income.

They may set some boundaries and reminders but, they cannot hold the minds of every gambler and they'll just obliged to such policies just for them to keep gambling even if they're irresponsible gamblers.

in addition, if the casino or bookie starts requiring this doc from their players - it means they are licensed also as definitely, you need to put your real name on the doc unless they will accept your username that you can sign off. and that's not gonna happen.
this requirement is a possibility for a licensed gambling site. but doubt if a non-licensed casino will ask for this. but so far, i am not seeing this requirement to be implemented in the next years to come. being a responsible gambler is also very subjective. so this is also hard to assess for the casino. they won't do such task. the task is on the gambler himself, how he will look after for himself.
I think there's no problem if you'll use your username upon signing in/off. That's normal for most websites and since you've passed on that document, they're aware that's you and you're on their record already. Yeah, it's possible for this requirement to be in a licensed casino.

But to those that are not yet licensed or don't have plans to get one, they wouldn't require such but then, it's funny to think of this requirement for most gamblers just to prove that we're responsible because being responsible can't be drafted to a piece of paper unless being seen and witnessed.

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April 11, 2023, 10:45:26 PM
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It's actually gonna get really wierd, honestly...
Majority of peeps don't even want to pass through some form of discomfort or stress -sort of., So they'll really make a nice choice by registering on casinos that don't operate under this jurisdiction.
Secondly, they'll certainly be much illegal casinos popping up from left, right and centre... thirdly, they govt are just bound to face more money laundering cases than the usual.

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April 11, 2023, 10:50:02 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
It’s not the concern anymore of the government since the gambler itself should be most aware on how to avoid huge losses from gambling and to stay away from gambling addiction. If he’s not a responsible one, then he might only go broke from gambling and might regret it later on. However, on the part of asking certificate, if this will be true in the future, I would say gambling casinos will never gain the same profits as it is now. If most gamblers will be restricted from gambling, then maybe it’s the best time to shut down gambling casinos than to suffer bankruptcy in the long run.

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April 11, 2023, 11:05:57 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I doubt that will happen.

First, people are free to play and spend their money however they think is best. As long as they aren't stealing to fuel their addiction, no one could stop a person from gambling all their money or even creating gambling debts.

Second, because in countries where gambling is regulated, the tax that governments collect is high and the more people betting, the more taxes and "the better for the country".

Third, because websites, like any business, always seek to maximize their profits, regardless of how customers consume their products or services. I've never seen a company ban their customers because they were buying or using their services too much (actually I have, but it was in a bar where someone very drunk could do a lot of damage)

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April 11, 2023, 11:13:05 PM
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There's no such thing. First of all, they won't track your losses and winnings as well as your betting habits. Also what would be their basis to tag a gambler responsible? Casinos would only want to have more players on their platform whether you consider yourself as responsible or not, that would be none of their business. People are different with one another; some are just more fond of betting huge amounts because they fan simply endure the consequence. However, there are those who are simply not playing with a sense of responsibility with their funds but still, that would be a gambler's personal issue and no one would mind to interfere with that. Casinos in the first place won't be sued for players who are losing that much, they just provide the platform.

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April 12, 2023, 01:52:50 PM
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I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.
I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.

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April 12, 2023, 06:53:03 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
This is one thing that is impossible for online casino.
Casino's can't  control who want to gamble and who dont want to gamble, responsible or irresponsible. Even the addicted gambler will claim a responsible gambler because he want to gamble. Who looses his wealth or health as a result of gambling addiction is not casino's issues.
For instance in the case of a drunkered, the seller will never stop selling alcohol to a drunkerd as long as he pays for his alcohol. In the case of online casino, they can't predict who is an addict or who has lost his wealth as a reault of gambling addiction.
So for an online casino to upload a responsible gambler certificate before continue gambling is almost impossible.

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April 12, 2023, 07:22:30 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I wonder why would a casino be interested in implementing something like that knowing this will only cause them fewer profits if gamblers that wager and lose a lot are probably a big part of why their businesses are still profitable. Casinos like gamblers that wager a lot and lose, not the ones that wager big but don't lose a lot to them.

Governments will never go that far only to protect the wealth or health of their people, if they were really that much concerned, they would definitely first clear every single thing that can be harmful to people within their countries, but they never do much about that too.

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April 12, 2023, 10:44:04 PM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I wonder why would a casino be interested in implementing something like that knowing this will only cause them fewer profits if gamblers that wager and lose a lot are probably a big part of why their businesses are still profitable. Casinos like gamblers that wager a lot and lose, not the ones that wager big but don't lose a lot to them.

Governments will never go that far only to protect the wealth or health of their people, if they were really that much concerned, they would definitely first clear every single thing that can be harmful to people within their countries, but they never do much about that too.
Even if they do, there are really problems which are really that in global scale which is something that could be resolved out easily or does really need that huge funding support or allocation or
it does really need up that crucial things which they cant be able to handle it out and ending up on just letting those problems to be existing because they cant just do nothing with it.
This is why it would really be depending on the situation because there are things which government do really take it far when it comes to decisions and rules
which we know that it does have its pros and cons too.

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April 12, 2023, 11:22:38 PM
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If casinos ever do that, it would be like inviting problems to harm oneself (its reputation and image here) as till today, we have heard great as well as sad stories of gamblers winning and losing huge. Gamblers who have lost huge in numbers were never asked to gamble at the casinos they gambled away their money at (no casino personally asks you to come and play there, all they do is marketing stuff and promotional emails based on your agreed consent, that's it), so why would they ask you for a certificate to prove that you're a responsible gambler? Won't this impede the casinos' business overall?

If and only if, the regulatory body wants casinos to do that in order to prevent bigger losses to people, losses which could make exceptional differences to their personal life, then the casinos may ever do that but that's never going to happen. It's like asking a 25 year old chain smoker (smoking since 15 years of age) to prove that his lungs are fit and that he can easily inhale/exhale the nicotine that's released inside the body every single time he smokes.

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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Casinos facilitate gambling and they do not require a certificate to show responsible gambling. They run a business in the Casino and they never care how much money you spend on gambling, because they run a business not open donations.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
There are many countries that try to block Gambling sites and that doesn't stop Casinos from operating in those countries. The reason the state tries to protect people from losing a lot of money due to addiction makes no sense at all, gambling has been going on for so long in human life, it's just that now there are many platforms that make it easier for people to play gambling.

This is not the right solution and for the case of gamblers it will be very difficult to regulate, if they don't take advantage of gambling through casinos, gamblers will still gamble in the traditional way. If the reason is as you mentioned, then more precisely what can control the gambler is the individual gambler.

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Maybe aside from that, they'll also ask you for an interview before able to deposit and that's like going to happen during the registration. These casinos understand that the more they ask a lot of things from their customers, the more that they're pushing away that money from them.
That's why it's important to get along what's the demand is asking them and not to ask customers more that aren't really needed unless it's an actual information that the regulators want them to have.
That's true when there's a casino that has stricter requirements then those gamblers would just simply switch to another that requires less as it's unlikely for every casino to have the same requirements when they're based in different countries.

There would still be gamblers that are willing to follow those requirements but the downside for the affected casinos might be too much and in exchange, it's going to limit their operations.

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I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.
I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.
I'm really sure that they fully understand the game of gtheir industry wherein they will cause a lot of pain, heartbreaks, defeat, sorrow and a lot of regrets to the majority of their customer and clients. There is a casino edge for a reason, it is to make sure that they keep earning even if someone hit the jackpot and other big prizes. The job of the casino is to extract money from their clients and customers so they do not have any reason for them to ask certificate if you are a responsible gambler or not. You are the one who will decide if you can handle your emotion, take risks, handle expectation and also understanding that the gambling is about probabilities.

I saw a lot of gamblers who blame the casino after they lose huge money in gambling without fully knowing that the reason why they lose is because of his mindset, expectation, skills and alo experienced. The professional and successful gambler understand that gambling psychology plays a very huge factor and it is one of the key for gambling success. You are the one who will take responsibility of for your success, what you do today will have a big impact on your future.

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April 13, 2023, 03:30:49 AM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
It’s not the concern anymore of the government since the gambler itself should be most aware on how to avoid huge losses from gambling and to stay away from gambling addiction. If he’s not a responsible one, then he might only go broke from gambling and might regret it later on. However, on the part of asking certificate, if this will be true in the future, I would say gambling casinos will never gain the same profits as it is now. If most gamblers will be restricted from gambling, then maybe it’s the best time to shut down gambling casinos than to suffer bankruptcy in the long run.
But if Government will show some concern about gamblers(of course just to pretend but the truth is they want to run against casino sites) then asking this will happen eventually , and as government knew how much money flowing from gambling businesses , then the thing is that  will do everything just to take some part of the cake and having this will soon be alarmed gamblers.

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April 13, 2023, 03:31:03 AM
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Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I do not see it happening, once people are recognized by the law as adults they can do whatever they want with their money, if it was us we would never spend the amount of money those which are addicted spend on keeping their addictions going, but it is their decision, the moment you begin to tell people how they can spend the money they earned you are crossing a very dangerous line, something that we are already seeing at China and which I do not think free countries should emulate.
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April 13, 2023, 03:49:54 AM
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I Am a fan of Online casino but I love more playing in regular/live casino so I don't have problem with this because once time happens that this needs to be on process then I have no problem going back to my first love and that is to play in casino houses , though it will take some time to come but at least i can do this twice a year and go with my gambling activities.

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