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April 10, 2023, 10:31:07 AM |
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My wallet is a standard unencrypted file, I created it and haven't used it for a long time so I completely lost my password and seed. Recently my partner got confused and paid into this BTC wallet of mine. So can someone help me find my password and 0.5BTC in the my wallet? I will pay 30% to anyone who helps me find my password. TG: https://t.me/MrIces910https://i.ibb.co/mvZ1SQt/image.png
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April 10, 2023, 10:34:06 AM |
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It's possible to try and crack the wallet but only if you have an idea about the length and complexity of the password (whether special characters, numbers, etc. were used). Do you?
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In the case you have some idea about your password and it includes only a few characters, you may be able to brute-force your password using BTCRecover. Otherwise, there won't be any way to recover your wallet and the fund is gone forever.
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April 10, 2023, 10:46:59 AM |
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I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.
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April 10, 2023, 10:50:31 AM |
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I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.
If you typed a password, the private keys get encrypted using that password even if the file doesn't. If the wallet is not encrypted, you should be able to spend your funds without the need for a password.
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April 10, 2023, 10:55:23 AM |
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When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.
This doesn't change anything. If you unchecked "Encrypt wallet file" when creating the wallet, now you can open the wallet file and see your balance, transactions history and addresses, but you will still need the password for making any transaction. Your secrets like your seed phrase are encrypted.
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April 10, 2023, 11:00:12 AM |
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I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.
If you typed a password, the wallet file gets encrypted using that password. If the file was not encrypted, you should be able to spend your funds without the need of a password. It still requires password to sign when doing btc transfer. https://ibb.co/h2yDZBd
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April 10, 2023, 11:54:03 AM |
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My wallet is a standard unencrypted file, I created it and haven't used it for a long time so I completely lost my password and seed. Recently my partner got confused and paid into this BTC wallet of mine. So can someone help me find my password and 0.5BTC in the my wallet? I will pay 30% to anyone who helps me find my password. TG: https://t.me/MrIces910https://i.ibb.co/mvZ1SQt/image.pngCould you confirm what version of electrum created the wallet file? If the wallet file is all you have, I may still be able to recover it. I was successful with 2 similar cases recently, where the owners also forgot their password and seed and only had the wallet file left. See this topic and just let me know if you need more detail (DM if needed): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439379.msg61769223Also be careful not to share any sensitive information in a public post.
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April 10, 2023, 11:58:24 AM |
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My wallet is a standard unencrypted file, I created it and haven't used it for a long time so I completely lost my password and seed. Recently my partner got confused and paid into this BTC wallet of mine. So can someone help me find my password and 0.5BTC in the my wallet? I will pay 30% to anyone who helps me find my password. TG: https://t.me/MrIces910https://i.ibb.co/mvZ1SQt/image.pngCould you confirm what version of electrum created the wallet file? If the backup file is all you have, I *may* still be able to help with recovery. I was successful with 2 similar cases recently, where the owners also forgot their password and seed and only had the wallet file left. See this topic and just let me know if you need more detail (DM if needed): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439379.msg61769223Also be careful not to share any sensitive information in a public post. For more convenience can you contact me via Telegram or send me your Telegram ID?
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April 10, 2023, 03:08:46 PM |
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If you unchecked "Encrypt wallet file" when creating the wallet, now you can open the wallet file and see your balance, transactions history and addresses, but you will still need the password for making any transaction. Your secrets like your seed phrase are encrypted.
But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance. @OP since you did not use any program to generate a strong password, it is probably one of the passwords that you use most often, or at least part of it. If you can know the length of the password or exclude things that cannot be in that password, then your options will be greatly reduced. You can contact WalletRecoveryServices walletrecoveryservices@gmail.com
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自信は成功です
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April 10, 2023, 03:21:30 PM |
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But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance. If you choose to encrypt the wallet file, then you can gain no information whatsoever without the password. If you add a password but choose not to encrypt the wallet file, then only the private keys are encrypted. This means you can open the wallet file and view the addresses, balance, and transaction history, but cannot spend anything without the password.
I would add that taking advice from accounts with zero trust asking you to message them privately is incredibly high risk. You can very easily set up and run btcrecover yourself, and you can get all the advice you need to do that in public on this thread.
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April 11, 2023, 04:41:11 AM |
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But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.
The same way blockexplorers check for balance, just from the addresses or master public key. Users do not need to paste their seed or private key to check their balance. Electrum's wallet file is just a long .json human-readable data containing the addresses, transaction history, seed, master keys, some settings and other data. If the user didn't encrypted the wallet file but set a password as seen here: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpklZTkS.png&t=665&c=VdlzNSnm4X-Ibw) All those data are still accessible by Electrum and still human-readable except the seed and master private key. Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.
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April 11, 2023, 10:15:38 AM |
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But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.
The same way blockexplorers check for balance, just from the addresses or master public key. Users do not need to paste their seed or private key to check their balance. Electrum's wallet file is just a long .json human-readable data containing the addresses, transaction history, seed, master keys, some settings and other data. If the user didn't encrypted the wallet file but set a password as seen here: https://i.imgur.com/pklZTkS.pngAll those data are still accessible by Electrum and still human-readable except the seed and master private key. Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required. When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help.
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April 11, 2023, 11:39:32 AM |
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OP PMed me asking to communicate on Telegram. I would reiterate that for the reasons above, you should keep all communication public. If you message random forum users privately there is a high chance of being scammed. Also, I don't use Telegram. I suggest you download btcrecover and give it a go yourself before enlisting the help of any third parties. The set up guide is fairly easy to follow: https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/INSTALL/The main question is do you remember anything at all about the password? Length, character set, memorable words, etc? Is it likely to be a variation of some other passwords you use? If you have absolutely no idea what the password is, then you will only be able to brute force it if it was a fairly weak password.
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April 11, 2023, 06:15:50 PM |
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OP PMed me asking to communicate on Telegram. I would reiterate that for the reasons above, you should keep all communication public. If you message random forum users privately there is a high chance of being scammed. Also, I don't use Telegram. I suggest you download btcrecover and give it a go yourself before enlisting the help of any third parties. The set up guide is fairly easy to follow: https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/INSTALL/The main question is do you remember anything at all about the password? Length, character set, memorable words, etc? Is it likely to be a variation of some other passwords you use? If you have absolutely no idea what the password is, then you will only be able to brute force it if it was a fairly weak password. I want you to note that my electrum Wallet is not encrypted and it doesn't ask for a password at all when I open the wallet to check my balance or transaction history, it only asks for the password when I do a bitcoin transfer or extract private key. I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password. If you know any solution that can recover the password for the unencrypted Electrum wallet, please guide me. My Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910
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April 11, 2023, 06:25:31 PM |
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@mrleaker your wallet is encrypted. the wallet's secrets are encrypted which is why you have to enter the password when trying to sign transactions.
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-snip- Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.
When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help. That's what that line is all about. Electrum will have to derive the required private key from the master private key to be able to sign a transaction. Since the master private key is encrypted, you'll have to provide the password to gain access to it. I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password.
It works: I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345 ( BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey") Here's the command that I've used: btcrecover --wallet test_wallet12345 --tokenlist test_wallet12345.txt Here's the contents of " test_wallet12345.txt": Here's the result: Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrumLooseKey Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations 2023-04-12 12:18:30 : Using 8 worker threads 225 of 325 [#############################--------------] 0:00:00, ETA: 0:00:00
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Password found: '12345'
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-snip- Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.
When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help. That's what that line is all about. Electrum will have to derive the required private key from the master private key to be able to sign a transaction. Since the master private key is encrypted, you'll have to provide the password to gain access to it. I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password.
It works: I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345 ( BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey") Here's the command that I've used: btcrecover --wallet test_wallet12345 --tokenlist test_wallet12345.txt Here's the contents of " test_wallet12345.txt": Here's the result: Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrumLooseKey Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations 2023-04-12 12:18:30 : Using 8 worker threads 225 of 325 [#############################--------------] 0:00:00, ETA: 0:00:00
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Password found: '12345' Can you give me your contact information, or you can PM me via Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910 I really need your help guiding me. I tried as you said but it still doesn't work and it seems that according to the results your Wallet_type and mine are different. Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrum2 Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations 2023-04-12 15:57:49 : Using 16 worker threads 325 of 325 [########################################################] 0:00:02,
All possible passwords (as specified in your tokenlist or passwordlist) have been checked and none are correct for this wallet. You could consider trying again with a different password list or expanded tokenlist...
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April 12, 2023, 10:57:05 AM |
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It works: I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345 (BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey")
Interesting - Could you confirm what version of Electrum you have used for this test?
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Can you give me your contact information, or you can PM me via Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910 I really need your help guiding me. I tried as you said but it still doesn't work and it seems that according to the results your Wallet_type and mine are different. Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrum2 -snip- All possible passwords (as specified in your tokenlist or passwordlist) have been checked and none are correct for this wallet. It appears to be a bug in BTCRecover. I successfully reproduced the issue by creating a wallet with the same set-up in Electrum v4.3.4 mainnet ( and other 4.x versions) It shows the same wallet type " btcrpass.WalletElectrum2" and failed to find the password. Upon fully encrypting the wallet file, password recovery works. I used 3rdIteration's fork, both the latest master branch and the last release version behave the same. Wallet file from Electrum v3.3.8 works regardless of the level of encryption used. On the other note: I don't use Telegram, if there's someone contacted you claiming that he's me, it's a scammer. As o_e_l_e_o said, you'd better keep the conversation public so everyone can participate.
Interesting - Could you confirm what version of Electrum you have used for this test?
v4.3.4 - latest. But I found out that the wallet type: " WalletElectrumLooseKey" indicates that it's an " imported" wallet which only consist of private keys since it's the type of wallet that I've tested in that reply.
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