Duelbits limiting winners on minor leagues

[NessunoQualcuno]

Hi, I have just been limited by Duelbits for playing competitions in minor leagues.
I do not have a big bankroll, so my stakes were max 50 €, as you can see here: https://i.imgur.com/ojVjbbR.jpg
You can see that on April 8th I had to bet only 19 € because that was the maximum accepted (Laktasi vs. Novi Grad, minor bosnian league).
After that one I could bet only 4-5 €, even 2 sometimes, so I just withdrew (and they required the KYC and this was the FIRST time, but they paid).

Moreover, in total I was not a big winner. My real revenue was < 150 € (see here: https://i.imgur.com/rpNmYpp.png), so they just did not like what I played (odds that dropped afterwards, basically).







This is the chat I had with the support:


10:01 PM | xxx: Hello, today I tried to put stakes on some bets but I get it reduced to 4-5$. Have I been limited?

10:03 PM | David from Duelbits: Hello there! Thank you for contacting us!
 
 Please give me a moment to look into it for you.

10:04 PM | xxx: Thank you!

10:05 PM | David from Duelbits: Our trading team has applied appropriate limits for the time being and will not be reviewing these currently, as they seem adequate. Thanks for understanding.

10:05 PM | xxx: Thanks

10:07 PM | David from Duelbits: While we're still here, will you please take a moment to leave us a review once the chat closes?
 
 It's a quick and straightforward approach for you to influence how our company provides services so we can improve our approach toward you.
 
 Thank you in advance, and have a great rest of your day!

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

Unfortunately, casinos limiting users who they think are winning too much is very common, and from what I know, one does not have to win big amount of money or wager a large sum before they get limited, limitation happens when the casino notices that the user is just betting on one particular game series, and is consistently winning.

To better avoid being limited, users have to not focus on betting on just one particular kind of sports where the user is consistently wining without losing any bet, try to spread your bets to other types of sports, even if it's little amount the user wager on this other types of sports, let there be winnings, as some loses too.

[RapTarX]

I haven't checked which minor league you are talking about but they are very subjective to get manipulated. Maybe they have found your activities a bit of suspicious which is why they limited you. That's common as said above. You would rather move on. It won't help you increasing your limit. Try another bookie instead.

[babygun]

It is good that you got paid but too bad that they already limited you even though your stakes were not so high. Happened to me also on other sites so best is to move on and test out another casino.

[peter0425]

the post seems to be asking for reason and there are not even a issue that need to be addressed so I guess only the Team of Duelbits can answer that but given all the answers above since you are being paid completely , then better to follow the advices and move on , there are many  sites that you can play and continue your betting , it is normal for the site to act if they are not trusting the players and it is their right as long as they are not holding your funds or  banning your account.
so yeah move on mate.

[tusandii]

I haven't checked which minor league you are talking about but they are very subjective to get manipulated. Maybe they have found your activities a bit of suspicious which is why they limited you. That's common as said above. You would rather move on. It won't help you increasing your limit. Try another bookie instead.

Yes, that's true, and cases like this happen a lot, not only in Duelbits, but in several other casinos.
Gamblers who win too often are considered a threat of loss for most bookmakers even if it's only in the minor leagues.
It is better to use not only one gambling platform but several so that when in one platform limited gamblers can still bet on other platforms or you can also make bets with a slightly longer delay so that when you often win the dealer does not suspect and limit gamblers.
Things like this are reasonable in my opinion because dealers also don't want to lose money too often for just one person.

[bettercrypto]

I haven't tried that game yet, because I often play slots games, and baccarat or blackjack, but that's a bit new to me. Now based on what you've seen most you almost always win.

      Maybe because of that, their management suspected you, why did they suddenly require you to submit a kyc, you should have just done what they said? did you submit kyc? Did they lock the account or ban it? because if not, just wait for their answer to you for now because that's all you can do right now, honestly.

[Strongkored]

Bookmakers give very small limits because minor leagues are often involved in fixed matches, especially if your account is only involved in these bets and always wins bets, bookmakers will give very small limits because otherwise, the bookies will suffer losses because the players trick them. But at least Duelbits has paid you and if you are not satisfied with what Duelbits is doing you can look for other bookmakers that provide bets on the league although I'm sure you won't get it easily at many bookmakers because minor leagues don't bring many players either one where they lose money because the victory of the favorite team is almost certain.

[Cantsay]

It's a normal thing for a casino to limit your account when they find out or think your account is carrying out some suspicious activity due to the fact that you're constantly winning your bets, they may think you're using some kind of manipulation. It's not as if you went paid, you received your payment so if you don't like what was done to your account and you know you didn't engage in any suspicious activity and yet they refused to set your account limit back to normal then you should consider migrating to a different casino of your choice.

[rodskee]

i have this experience years back(pandemic year I believe) that a casino(in which popular also in this forum) limit me when i only bet and win small amount and not big enough for them to be alarmed , though maybe there is misunderstanding I tried contacting the support and yes , they allow me back from my betting normal .

but in your case , I believe that the team isn't considering you of permanent limits but they are checking your account so better bear with it and come back for follow up.

I believe that if you are not acting weird or alarming , the site will bring back your normal betting not unless they find something not normal and this will be permanently , but the best thing here is you are not being denied of anything from your funds.

[yahoo62278]

I had always thought that it's the odds provider that limits the player, not the website. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I think sites would be better off removing minor leagues from available bets and save themselves from these threads.

[swogerino]

I don't know in Duelbits but where I play both in Sportsbet and Stake I have been lately on a consistent winning run and I have made from 0.10 Litecoin to over 2 Litecoin which is the same amount you have played,just a bit more and none of these casinos have limited me yet and I don't think they will do.In fact in Stake where I keep always the chat open to get new ideas about my sport betting from other people I have seen bets of over 60 Ethereum which is a huge amount in non well known events and they have been paid out.

Surely Duelbits has the right to put limits but this will inevitably get them a migration of players from their casino to other ones.

[KiaKia]

Haha, you beat them at their own game it seems, unfortunately, they had to do this to you, it's good news that you can withdraw, Duelbits is a reliable online gambling space so I don't expect them to deny you of your payment, you win too much, that's the main issue here.

Can you share me your strategy  at least? I will like to start winning games like you OP, you should focus on more than one game or use another reputable online casino like Coinomize or Roobet, the same game can be available too.

[acroman08]

Moreover, in total I was not a big winner. My real revenue was < 150 € (see here: https://i.imgur.com/rpNmYpp.png), so they just did not like what I played (odds that dropped afterwards, basically).

so, this thread is more of a rant than an accusation? anyway, this could happen to you again in the new sportsbook that you are going to play to. changing up your strategy a little might help and prevent you from bet amount getting limited. good luck!

[LEVSKI7]

ANJ: Operators may not limit stakes without “legitimate reasons”

https://igamingbusiness.com/legal-compliance/legal/anj-operators-may-not-limit-stakes-without-legitimate-reasons/
By law, they do not have the right to limit and close accounts. Such are the hundreds of court decisions. It is good that some countries have started to comply with the law, and soon all others will too.

[ufaiz50]

I haven't encounter like this before but to think that the gambling site will limit your bets or winnings in their gambling site that would be really hassle especially if you are a big bettor as you wouldn't be able to enjoy playing with your budget and also it will limit the fun. Alternatively, you can use other gambling sites to play with and that's the disadvantage of limiting players with their bets, there are some instances that they are going to change gambling sites but I think that's an advantage to the gambling site as they will remove players that is always winning.

[aioc]

This is not permanent and only for the time being you did not ask if it's only for your account or if they are applying it to other accounts as well, like all the other recommendations I also advise you to try other casinos but once they lifted it you can come back, but first try to resolve if this covers numbers of players or specific to your account so you can take action on what to do, Duelbits is a good place to play, you can comeback if they take out the limit.

David from Duelbits: Our trading team has applied appropriate limits for the time being and will not be reviewing these currently, as they seem adequate. Thanks for understanding.

[Webetcoins]

This is probably because you have been betting on minor leagues and winning consecutive bets which made them feel something suspicious is going on. We all know that minor leagues or matches are always more vulnerable to match-fixing and spot-fixing, etc. So the casinos mostly limit gamblers if they are betting only on games that they win without a single loss in that particular league.

You should use another platform from now on but just remember that you shouldn't only be placing bets on minor leagues, you may have experience and understand them pretty well but it wouldn't be good for your gambling account and activities as they can also confiscate your funds if things go out of hand.

[FatFork]

I know some sportsbooks or casinos limit players who are winning too much or betting on certain games or leagues, but I can see how it can be especially frustrating when it's for smaller bets, like in your case. It seems like some online casinos don't like it when you win, no matter how much or how little.

It's not fair to the players, but it's unfortunately a common practice. What you could probably try to do is find other online casinos that offer similar games and leagues that you enjoy playing, but without the limitations. Another thing you could consider is reaching out to Duelbits' customer support and asking why you were limited. They may be able to provide some insight or offer a solution. It's possible that there was some misunderstanding or mistake, and it never hurts to ask.

[btc78]

Looking at your post and action ? I think you only created this thread for enlightenment and of course to give idea in other players though most of us already knew that as gambling sites tend to act depending on how they see your gambling strategy and movement.
the more you threaten them from your good winning counts, then the site will act and give you this limit in which their rights and we have nothing to do against this.

[Outhue]

OP your strategy wanted to close down the casino company, I would do the same to you if I were the casino owner or team, people like you are bad for a business like a casino, you have a gigawatt power of luck   hahaha.

When winning is too much due to you being a grand master of luck you will surely be limited, you are a lucky man, so do not limit your winning by using this casino only, try other casinos too this is the only way you can go from limited to unlimited.

[Eureka_07]

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Yo, what was your purpose of creating this thread? I know the relevance, I'm just not sure if you've done it to complain, to in form, etc., so what is it?
You sound neutral, from the chat you shared to us, it seems that you accepted the limit as there's no hint of you complaining about it.

[Lucius]

This is nothing to be surprised about, because every company that deals in sports betting has to "protect" itself from those that it estimates have a high percentage of winnings in certain sports/leagues. Maybe it doesn't seem fair to the player, but it's something that has always happened, albeit to a much lesser extent.

If we look at the offer of today's bookies, we can see that they really offer betting on such low football leagues where there are a lot of fixed results. Football is first and foremost a big business, and only then is it sport and entertainment. For those who think differently, I suggest watching the FIFA Uncovered documentary series.

[LEVSKI7]

Nonsense from a legal point of view has no right to limit it.so are the court decisions. who does not comply with a fine and revocation of license. this will soon be enforced everywhere

[SushiMonster]

I can think of a few reasons why casinos limit people's accounts.

• Preventing problem gambling: Casinos are responsible for protecting their customers from gambling addiction. By setting limits on how much money customers can bet, they can help prevent problem gambling.
• Protecting their profits: Casinos are businesses that need to make a profit to survive. By setting limits on how much money customers can bet, they can protect their profits and ensure that they stay in business.
• Compliance with regulations: Many jurisdictions require casinos to limit how much money customers can bet. This ensures that the casino operates within the law and is not facilitating money laundering or other illegal activities.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Nonsense from a legal point of view has no right to limit it.so are the court decisions. who does not comply with a fine and revocation of license. this will soon be enforced everywhere

What exactly are you saying dude?
As far as I am aware of, Like Lucius said, the issue of limiting gamblers on certain games is not something new, and to be honest, it is not a wrong thing to do, though it be unfair to the gambler, it is still to the best interest of the casino and several other players on the same casino.

There are some players who have access or connections to several fixed games, this simply means that, they know the outcome of a game even before the game is played, if the casino allow such players to keep playing and winning every single bet they placed, there is a very high chance that they will drain the casino gradually, so the best way to handle such users is to limit them, which i think is better than the casino blocking them out.

[LEVSKI7]

The addiction problem has nothing to do with a limit for smart players
Legally defined legitimate reasons include refusing to allow a minor, someone who has self-excluded or an excessive bettor to gamble.

[Peanutswar]

Seems like you made a continuous bet and possible to get tracked that there's no cooldown with your bet and not settled already you make another bet, better to take a cooldown first before accumulating another wage if that's so that the duelbits makes a limit with your gambling activity you can add another option with your casino so you don't get bothered too much with the restrictions.

[Lucius]

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Even when I was an active player at sports betting sites, I remember that suspicious matches used to be blocked practically everywhere if it was determined that there was suspicious activity (extremely high bets on high odds). I think there was even an agency or something similar that monitored such things and all bookmakers would then exclude such events from their offer.

People should read the small print in TOS, then maybe they would be a little less surprised by some things.

[Gozie51]

Apart from limiting your account, casinos and indeed game houses have a way of protecting their business from loses. Just as you are playing they also investigate the activities. In your own case maybe there could be surreptitious activities they found out in the leagues you bet on. Sometimes when manipulation is discovered, the game maybe be totally removed or disabled so that you don't have access to bet on it and at times the odds are reduced to discourage players. Usually things don't go straight forward as you think it should be, there are protection giving to businesses but what is important is being paid out in full to what winning you had, worry about that and don't worry about a bet you have not taken because it is better to limit you than avoiding to pay you after you win 

[LEVSKI7]

the site plays against the player and if he loses, he pays. in principle, they must also have a deposit guarantee in case they become insolvent

[Eternad]

You are winning too much and this is the way of the casino to minimize risk of losing because they can’t guarantee if you are cheating or not on your winning streak. Your bet amount doesn’t matter but rather the winning percentage you are displaying on your account. You already have 150€ profit for a short period of time and continuing your gambling activities without limitation will just mark you as unprofitable.

We all know that casino is a business and not a charity. This issue is happening on all casino as their defense mechanism on user that is usually winning. The reason for the KYC is to check your account whether you might be connected on gambling syndicate or not as last resort to investigate your account winnings.

[coin-investor]

I can think of a few reasons why casinos limit people's accounts.

• Preventing problem gambling: Casinos are responsible for protecting their customers from gambling addiction. By setting limits on how much money customers can bet, they can help prevent problem gambling.
• Protecting their profits: Casinos are businesses that need to make a profit to survive. By setting limits on how much money customers can bet, they can protect their profits and ensure that they stay in business.
• Compliance with regulations: Many jurisdictions require casinos to limit how much money customers can bet. This ensures that the casino operates within the law and is not facilitating money laundering or other illegal activities.

Duelbits may have had a reason why they limiting OP's account but we all know casinos are profit-driven platforms they will let you gamble as long as your account is not questionable so your point number two is the one that is likely the reason.
Casinos will not hesitate to restrict your account when you are beating them but will encourage you to wager more if you are an unlucky player.
 

[pop3r5]

I had always thought that it's the odds provider that limits the player, not the website. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I think sites would be better off removing minor leagues from available bets and save themselves from these threads.

I can easily get an account limited within 1 or 2 bets on Nfl or Nba main handicap line or over under. They don't care even if biggest market in the world, if you bet on a early line and you manage to beat the closing odds you're out.