PeachBitcoin.com | P2P Bitcoin Exchange 🍑 #kycfree

[JeromeTash]

Suggestion!

Make backing up of seed phrase mandatory when one is just creating an account by asking the user to confirm the seed phrase they have just written down.

try it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peachbitcoin.peach.mainnet

Link doesn't work

I tried installing the app on my PC via Windows subsystem for Android, but the option to install is greyed out as shown in the picture. Any suggestions?

Windows subsystem for Android has always worked for me when installing other APKs I want to use on PC. it's an emulator of sorts.

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[RickDeckard]

I wasn't aware of this service, congratulations on launching it @Peach Bitcoin! Besides the fact that it is P2P, I also like the UI that you provide in your application, great design you've got there!

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2 - Your privacy policy states you share email addresses with MailerLite for the purposes of marketing. Why can't users opt out of this?
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I might have understood this wrong, but if you take a closer look at their privacy policy[1], on chapter 4.1 (Lawful basis for processing your information) there's this entry:

You will receive marketing messages from us if you have given us your consent to do so by signing up on the website.

To unsubscribe from marketing emails at any time, you can click the unsubscribe link that can be found at the bottom of any marketing email. You may also contact us to inform us if you do not wish to receive any marketing materials from us.

This message seems similar to the one that you're given regarding Google Firebase & Google Analytics:

You can toggle sharing usage data on/off in Settings > About Peach > Diagnostics

However, Google Firebase & Google Analytics is clearly shown as (opt-in) - on the service providers section - but the entry related to MailerLite isn't. Perhaps this process happens automatically as soon as you register on the platform? Still, according to the previous quote, your data will only be shared if you choose to opt-in during the registration phase?
[1]https://peachbitcoin.com/privacy-policy/

[Potato Chips]

try it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peachbitcoin.peach.mainnet

Link doesn't work

App is region locked on playstore. I'm guessing you were coming from an IP address outside Europe? I tested it with a few Europe IPs and it worked fine.

I tried installing the app on my PC via Windows subsystem for Android, but the option to install is greyed out as shown in the picture. Any suggestions?

Windows subsystem for Android has always worked for me when installing other APKs I want to use on PC. it's an emulator of sorts.

Were you using WSA pacman? if so, there's a redditor with a similar problem, perhaps you might find a fix, see: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/uqbpn0/install_option_is_greyed_out_in_wsa_pacman_any/

[o_e_l_e_o]

I might have understood this wrong, but if you take a closer look at their privacy policy[1], on chapter 4.1 (Lawful basis for processing your information) there's this entry:

It says you can opt out of receiving emails, but not that you can opt out of your details being shared with their marketing agency.

Either way, I see no reason they should be sharing my details with marketing agencies at all.

[dansus021]

Congratulation for the launching 

anyway do you need Indonesia translation if you do feel free to DM Me

[RickDeckard]

Either way, I see no reason they should be sharing my details with marketing agencies at all.

By default (and within the registration stage) they should list all the services that they work with and allow their users to choose which ones they are comfortable sharing data with (I really believe that a large number of people don't mind their data being shared - especially the ones that instantly click on "Accept all cookies"). In an effort to understand this stance with marketing e-mails, I believe that the main purpose of sharing early access users with MailerLite is to more easily distribute weekly newsletters to share what's being developed at the moment and keep in touch with the "early adopters" as a way to also help them promote their service. Still, I believe this action could also be presented as an option for the user since this is the only option that is left out (Zammad interaction will only be needed if we need to get in touch with their customer support it seems).

[o_e_l_e_o]

(I really believe that a large number of people don't mind their data being shared - especially the ones that instantly click on "Accept all cookies").

Of course, but if we are talking about apps and services specifically designed to allow non-KYC trading and preserving privacy, we shouldn't be happy with accepting that bare minimum.

In an effort to understand this stance with marketing e-mails, I believe that the main purpose of sharing early access users with MailerLite is to more easily distribute weekly newsletters to share what's being developed at the moment and keep in touch with the "early adopters" as a way to also help them promote their service.

Weekly updates and so forth could be on a landing screen on the app, which results in no need to share details with third parties.

Still, I suppose it is easily countered by just using a new email address.

[Hispo]

I just took a look a your web and I must say it is a delight to the eyes, I love the artistic approach you went for.
If you would like a suggestion from me: you should consider to add support to markets or BTC/FIAT pairs from countries where Bitcoin has a wide volume and increasing adoption. For example, Nigeria, Venezuela and Argentina.  🍑🍑🍑

Those are countries where the demand for P2P will continue to grow through time.  
If you ever need someone to translate English to Spanish, send me a PM. We may do business.  

[RickDeckard]

What's up with the rumors you are going to release Peach app as open source software?
That would be great, if it happens.

I'm happy to tell you that it isn't a rumor - Peach Bitcoin twitter account actually tweeted[1][2] that same promise:

WoW thank you 🙏☺️ we will make peach app open source very soon! We are currently getting ready for it

I just took a look a your web and I must say it is a delight to the eyes, I love the artistic approach you went for.
If you would like a suggestion from me: you should consider to add support to markets or BTC/FIAT pairs from countries where Bitcoin has a wide volume and increasing adoption. For example, Nigeria, Venezuela and Argentina.  🍑🍑🍑

I may be wrong on this assumption, but I would say that Peach Bitcoin is, for now, focusing only on the EU markets. They recently stated that they don't operate in Africa for now[3] and all of their offers regarding currency reflect their Europe focus. Take, for example, their US stance regarding expansion[4]:

Peach is not available in the US market and don’t plan to be for now

While they are losing a great deal of customers of US (for example), I think that a steady and organic grow is always recommended when we are speaking of small entities starting out. EU has a great deal of users that they can target and once their product is more matured perhaps they'll revalue again their stance. Entering in the US means being (perhaps) even more regulated since they have different legislation applicable, but only time will tell I guess.
@Peach Bitcoin - Could you eventually share, if possible, a roadmap of things/features to come? Every time I check your Twitter page you've got raving reviews and it seems that the developers behind the product are great, so kudos for that!
[1]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1646840615781400577
[2]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1638643362260557824
[3]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1648306037571698689
[4]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1634609225669439490

[Peach Bitcoin]

It would be best if the service were available globally, but the EU is still a huge market with just under 500 million people and one of the richest areas in the world. In the future, there is always the possibility that the service will expand outside the EU. As for Russia, it is not only a matter of a personal decisions, but also the fact that most of their banks are on the blacklist, and anyone who would try to avoid these sanctions by offering this kind of service would only create additional problems for himself.

Not everything is so clear. For now, we are a small company and will scale up and solve problems as they come.
Therefore, at the moment we are focusing on those things that can give impetus to our development, I hope you understand.

1. Your privacy policy states that you collect the details of fiat payment methods, as well as receiving bitcoin addresses. How long do you store this data for?
2. Your privacy policy states you share email addresses with MailerLite for the purposes of marketing. Why can't users opt out of this?

3. I assume this is a 2-of-2 multi-sig. Is this correct? Can you share your additional script on top of the standard multi-sig script which allows you to spend these coins with a single private key after 4,320 blocks?

1. If you allow me, I will refer to this post.

2. This is an opt in into the newsletter. We now use sendinblue instead of mailer lite (t&c and privacy policy are super old tbh).

3. Our first test on mainnet (Under details you can find this part).

Code:

https://mempool.space/tx/372c43afa792337b669ae38349c64b4fe7f20dcacf09bf401a10655c9222feb5

Could you eventually share, if possible, a roadmap of things/features to come?

We are working on 2 weeks sprint basis. Perhaps we can make that available on GitHub as well!

What’s coming in the next release (Monday):

Code:

- account recovery on same device 
- fixing the dispute outcomes 

Then in 2 more weeks (sprint 11):

Code:

- fixing design to adapt to small screen 
- change in account architecture: separating wallet and account 

Following sprints:

Code:

- import p2p reputations from other platforms 
- review of trading limit mechanism 
- review of sorting matches with filters 
- let seller edit premium/payment method after the offer is published 
- create multiple sell offers by finding one escrow 
- implement market stats for both buyer and seller 
- implement full wallet functionally (this is when we plan to make the app open source too)

[RickDeckard]

We are working on 2 weeks sprint basis. Perhaps we can make that available on GitHub as well!

If possible please do indeed. I think that transparency is always great to see in any kind of company, especially the ones that are being developed within the cryptocurrency world. As for the sprints ahead, I'm really looking forward for those features, especially the one where you mention you'll make the app open source as well - I suppose it will eventually happen this year, perhaps sometime during the Summer. Fingers crossed!

I've also noticed that whenever a user wants to export their funds to other wallets, he/she isn't able to do a custom amount - they are only able to either send the whole funds or don't send at all. Do you also plan to implement a feature to tackle this experience?

[JeromeTash]

App is region locked on playstore. I'm guessing you were coming from an IP address outside Europe? I tested it with a few Europe IPs and it worked fine.

Yeah, unfortunately I am currently outside Europe, and it seems their focus is only on some European countries as seen by the fiat currencies supported by the App.
I guess this is where I swallow the bitter pill, knowing that I will never be able to use their service.

[o_e_l_e_o]

1. If you allow me, I will refer to this post.

10 years seems very long. Which jurisdiction are you based in which requires this length of data retention?

2. This is an opt in into the newsletter. We now use sendinblue instead of mailer lite (t&c and privacy policy are super old tbh).

I would suggest that having an up to date privacy policy is pretty important. I certainly wouldn't be happy to find my data had been shared with third parties I hadn't agreed to.

[dkbit98]

10 years seems very long. Which jurisdiction are you based in which requires this length of data retention?

They are probably under Swiss jurisdiction, according to their privacy policy and terms & conditions page.
I remember they said limitation for cash trading was also according to Swiss law, and company registered address is:

Rue des Beaux-Arts 8
c/o LEAX Avocats Sàrl
2000 Neuchâtel
SWITZERLAND

https://peachbitcoin.com/terms-and-conditions/
https://peachbitcoin.com/privacy-policy/

[AB de Royse777]

Hey Bitcointalk!

I would like to introduce you to Peach, a mobile application that directly connects buyers and sellers of BTC. Bitcoin is winning, we believe we are part of the good people who wanna win with Bitcoin, and we want Peach, whose aim is make stacking sats p2p the standard, to be known.

How could I miss it. The best is "for-meetups" section. I really hope the project attracts a lot of people and people register regularly for meeting up to do there trades.

Welcome to the forum.

[joker_josue]

Congratulations for announcing your service here on the forum!

I already knew the app, since the beta version and still closed to the general public. At the time I already thought it was a very good app. But, with this version open to all things got much better.

I recommend using it, as it is simple and practical to use. Totally satisfied and I hope they continue to grow. By the way, I believe that with the approval of MiCA by the UE, this service will become even better.

I'll keep an eye out for news, and if I have any suggestions, I'll come here and share. 

[joker_josue]

@Peach Bitcoin I have a question:
 
When we buy bitcoin, the money stays in the app's wallet until we transfer it to another wallet. Whenever we make a purchase does the bitcoin go to a different address or is it always at the same address?

[RickDeckard]

@Peach Bitcoin I have a question:
 
When we buy bitcoin, the money stays in the app's wallet until we transfer it to another wallet. Whenever we make a purchase does the bitcoin go to a different address or is it always at the same address?

As far as I'm aware, Peach Wallet generates a new/different address for each individual buy offer that you take. You can also change the payout address in Settings -> Payout address if you want to specify a different one.

[joker_josue]

As far as I'm aware, Peach Wallet generates a new/different address for each individual buy offer that you take. You can also change the payout address in Settings -> Payout address if you want to specify a different one.

Thanks! This can be really useful, to achieve increased privacy. As this way, we can manage each purchase individually and not combine two purchases and thus guarantee greater privacy.

We just hope they continue to grow and have enough sellers/buyers to go around.

[RickDeckard]

We just hope they continue to grow and have enough sellers/buyers to go around.

Now that you talk about "growing", Peach Wallet is currently trying to get a "nomination" to pitch their product in Prague in the next BTC Prague event[1]. In order for them to make it, they are competing with more startups in a voting event - where you vote by donate sats - here[2] where the top 8 most voted will advance to the final round of pitching their product within BTC Prague event. All sats received will be donated to "Haima Ostrava, Clinic of Children's Medicine Department of Pediatric Hematology and Hemato-oncology"[2].

I guess that if you ever used Peach Wallet and ended up liking the product/concept, it never hurts to donate some sats to see it it is able to reach the pitching phase  . The more P2P solutions out there, the better!
[1]https://www.btcprague.com/
[2]https://app.mash.com/voting/3d5c163b-2409-4c32-99fe-1ff115afa1aa