Anti-vaxxers not drinking their own urine

[tvbcof]

There was a thread here with a similar name, but in the true spirit of 'woke scientism' the OP* locked it when his/their ass-whooping became increasingly severe.  Note that the subject title implying that 'anti-vaxxers' drink urine was cooked up in some public relations firm and had, as usual, little to no basis in reality.  The OP seems very much read-in on most of these 'new normal' psycho-social project details aimed at getting the gene therapy injections into arms and uses all the right lingo that is repeated verbatim in the writings of many such people.

(*) The OP seems to be a run-of-the-mill scammer who spends most of his/their time with 'mixers' and alt currency 'help' and what-not.  He also started to pretend to be a doctor when the scamdemic went down and contrary to all medical ethics spews medical 'advice' while remaining anonymous.  He is also part of a 'merit cycling club' circle-jerk where his type of influencers conspire to artificially pump up one another's 'merit points'.  Anyway, the now-locked thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380868.100

No, better to just let children needlessly die of preventable diseases. Roll Eyes What an absolutely monstrous opinion to hold.

Anti-vax is synonymous now with 'evidence based science' and as such the question comes down to net benefit.

Only in the 'consensus' world of scientism is chicken pox a dreaded scourge that kills the poor kiddies by the billion.  You can use this metric to assess the value of 'vaccines', but your analysis will be wrong.  At least wrong for most people; for technocratic eugenicists (and the woke eco-warior cohort who work for them without even knowing it) there are too many people on the planet so 'vaccines' actually are a valuable tool because they weaken and destroy immune systems and lead to higher all-cause mortality.

https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/dtp-vaccine-associated-with-increased-rate-of-total-mortality-in-low-income-countries-says-peter-g%C3%B8tzsche-in-new-expert-report/

Also pretty telling that this thread has devolved in to anti-vaxxers genuinely, and without a hint of irony, discussing the benefits of drinking their own piss.

I don't remember anyone espousing the drinking of one's urine or anyone elses' urine on the original thread that you locked.  Of course you know that by stating this lie as a fact and locking the thread few if any people are going to go through it and find what the facts actually are.  This is standard operating procedure for propagandists, and I think it is a much more commonly used technique over the last decade or so compared to earlier times.

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[BenCodie]

It's actually quite disappointing to see some names whom which I personally think are quite good members of the forum to have actually bought into the scamdemic and its ploy to poison the population.

For those who are actually blind, the pandemic was primarily a ploy to turn the eyes away from imminent economic disaster and to buy time to be able to patch as many holes as possible while the economy was shut down. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being blindsided. The proof is in the pudding if you look into how much money was printed during this period of time and how many companies were bailed out.

The vaccines on the other hand...we won't know what the end game is there until later on. I don't see how anyone can see good in something that was forced upon most populations and had little to no research as to how it effected the body. Pfizer already came out and said that they weren't even sure themselves whether or not the vaccine actually prevented covid or not. So, what exactly did people put in their body and what was the real purpose? Was it just money, or something more?

I won't invest anymore effort into the topic because I have already done my own research and I don't have any time to argue with the unarguable. The fact is, if you are being blindsided, that's your problem. Not mine. I recommend you take the same approach OP. Your life will be much easier

[TwitchySeal]

There was a thread here with a similar name, but in the true spirit of 'woke scientism' the OP* locked it when his/their ass-whooping became increasingly severe.  Note that the subject title implying that 'anti-vaxxers' drink urine was cooked up in some public relations firm and had, as usual, little to no basis in reality.  The OP seems very much read-in on most of these 'new normal' psycho-social project details aimed at getting the gene therapy injections into arms and uses all the right lingo that is repeated verbatim in the writings of many such people.

(*) The OP seems to be a run-of-the-mill scammer who spends most of his/their time with 'mixers' and alt currency 'help' and what-not.  He also started to pretend to be a doctor when the scamdemic went down and contrary to all medical ethics spews medical 'advice' while remaining anonymous.  He is also part of a 'merit cycling club' circle-jerk where his type of influencers conspire to artificially pump up one another's 'merit points'.  Anyway, the now-locked thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380868.100

No, better to just let children needlessly die of preventable diseases. Roll Eyes What an absolutely monstrous opinion to hold.

Anti-vax is synonymous now with 'evidence based science' and as such the question comes down to net benefit.

Only in the 'consensus' world of scientism is chicken pox a dreaded scourge that kills the poor kiddies by the billion.  You can use this metric to assess the value of 'vaccines', but your analysis will be wrong.  At least wrong for most people; for technocratic eugenicists (and the woke eco-warior cohort who work for them without even knowing it) there are too many people on the planet so 'vaccines' actually are a valuable tool because they weaken and destroy immune systems and lead to higher all-cause mortality.

https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/dtp-vaccine-associated-with-increased-rate-of-total-mortality-in-low-income-countries-says-peter-g%C3%B8tzsche-in-new-expert-report/

Also pretty telling that this thread has devolved in to anti-vaxxers genuinely, and without a hint of irony, discussing the benefits of drinking their own piss.

I don't remember anyone espousing the drinking of one's urine or anyone elses' urine on the original thread that you locked.  Of course you know that by stating this lie as a fact and locking the thread few if any people are going to go through it and find what the facts actually are.  This is standard operating procedure for propagandists, and I think it is a much more commonly used technique over the last decade or so compared to earlier times.

Seems like anti-vaxxers drinking their own piss is definitely a thing.  Have you tried it?

(KXAN) — Despite the proven efficacy and safety of the three FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the U.S., one anti-vaccine leader is urging his followers to treat the disease with their own urine. It’s among the latest in “alternative” treatments touted by anti-vaccine advocates during the pandemic.

Christopher Key, known as the “Vaccine Police” said over the weekend on his Telegram account, the Daily Beast reports. Key, who was freshly released from jail, told followers of his group, “The antidote that we have seen now, and we have tons and tons of research, is urine therapy. OK, and I know to a lot of you this sounds crazy, but guys, God’s given us everything we need.”

Key, who was arrested Jan. 5 related to a trespassing charge at a Whole Foods Market last year, previously made headlines for claiming he planned to perform a citizen’s arrest of Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards, who he claimed was forcing child vaccinations. The Alabama resident has also called for the execution of pharmacists who administer vaccines and called vaccinations a “crime against humanity.”

When reached out to for comment told the Daily Beast he believes in “urine therapy.” Also known as “urotherapy,” the alternative medicine practice of ingesting or applying one’s own urine is currently unproven to have medical benefits.

The consumption of urine, known as urophagia or urine therapy, has been practiced by some for centuries, though benefits have not been scientifically proven. Over the years, there have been many disproven or unfounded claims about ingesting urine, including reports it can stop cancer growth — which the American Cancer Society has no scientific evidence of.

https://www.kxan.com/news/weird-news/drink-urine-anti-covid-vaccine-advocate-tells-supporters/

He def has that anti-vaxxer look.

[o_e_l_e_o]

He is also part of a 'merit cycling club' circle-jerk where his type of influencers conspire to artificially pump up one another's 'merit points'.

I think you'll find there is nothing artificial about our merit cycling!

Only in the 'consensus' world of scientism is chicken pox a dreaded scourge that kills the poor kiddies by the billion.

Absolutely right once again. Chickenpox is the only preventable disease we have a vaccine against. Let's just ignore the literal billions of children over the last few centuries who have died of measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, meningitis, pertussis, polio, smallpox, tetanus, hepatitis, rotavirus...

I don't remember anyone espousing the drinking of one's urine or anyone elses' urine on the original thread that you locked.

Seems like drinking so much urine has clouded your memory. Your anti-vax pals were espousing drinking cow urine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380868.msg59869858#msg59869858

The proof is in the pudding if you look into how much money was printed during this period of time and how many companies were bailed out.

I have been very vocal over many years about the stupidity of endless money printing that most major governments take part in. This doesn't change the facts of COVID.

The fact is, if you are being blindsided, that's your problem. Not mine.

So all my colleagues and I just mass hallucinated spending months in COVID ICU surrounded by people younger than us dying on a daily basis?

[coolcoinz]

This doesn't change the facts of COVID.

The problem is there are multiple sources for these facts and depending on who you listen to the facts will be different. One fact that in general remains the same everywhere is that covid exists and that's where it ends. There are multiple possible origins of covid, for instance some people still believe a mutated bat flew into the Wuhan market, despite Wuhan Coronavirus Lab being just around the corner. It wasn't the origin of the coronavirus and nothing escaped from there because they have top notch filtration systems

Some doctors say covid vaccines work and don't cause problems, some say they don't work and cause problems, some say they work, but cause problems.
From my experience, they work but for a short time. I have a friend who had 3 doses and was sick twice. Once before he got the first dose and about 6 months after taking the last dose.
I did not take a single dose and and felt great if not counting that one time in the beginning of the pandemic in 2020 when I got sick and gained natural immunity.

My father also took 3 doses and got sick a few months later, so if they ever try to shove a covid vaccine down my throat, like they did in Austria, I'll fight them. Guess that makes me an anti vaxxer.

[BADecker]

from: o_e_l_e_o on April 13, 2023

from: BADecker on April 12, 2023, 09:20:06 PM
One of the major questions is, Are any vaccinations worth it?

No, better to just let children needlessly die of preventable diseases. Roll Eyes What an absolutely monstrous opinion to hold.

Also pretty telling that this thread has devolved in to anti-vaxxers genuinely, and without a hint of irony, discussing the benefits of drinking their own piss.

Standard medical stupidity. Spend billions on vaccination, and almost nothing on prevention through nutrition and homeopathy, so that diseases are eradicated before they infect anyone.

Why do it the vaxx way? To make money off the sheeple, who are only now, after a couple hundred years, finding out how to be free from medication/poison through nutrition.

[TwitchySeal]

Standard medical stupidity. Spend billions on vaccination, and almost nothing on prevention through nutrition

Federal spending on USDA's food and nutrition assistance programs totaled $182.5 billion in fiscal year 2021.

But...you know...government spending on nutrition is kind of....socialist....right?

and homeopathy

They do not advise drinking your own piss though.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

Why do it the vaxx way?

Why indeed! Why use vaccines which work, when we could use homeopathy which doesn't? It's a real conundrum! I'm sure this meeting of Bitcointalk's finest anti-vax minds will figure it out though!

[Hispo]

I don't know. I could be me being biased and stuff.  
But as far as I know and I have read what homeopathy is about, it sounds rather ineffective to treat actual sicknesses.

Because what is the point of taking some substance and dilute it once and again and again and again, until there is nothing but water in the stuff your are supposed to take ? The theory of diluting to increase effectiveness of medicine sounds like the opposite of science if you asked me.

Would not it be a scam if I started to sell vials of water for an handful of dollars to sick people ?  

[BADecker]

Why do it the vaxx way?

Why indeed! Why use vaccines which work, when we could use homeopathy which doesn't? It's a real conundrum! I'm sure this meeting of Bitcointalk's finest anti-vax minds will figure it out though!

Vaccines don't work as they are said to work. The only reason they seem to work is, they 'scare' the person's immune system into putting out tons of energy to fight the vaxx, thereby getting rid of the target disease along with a whole bunch of other diseases.

This weakens the immune system so badly that, once it relaxes to rebuild itself, it's much easier for the person to get sick from something in the next attack. Constant vaccination weakens the immune system until some, dumb, little thing like covid actually makes a few people sick. The example of this is that a very high percent of the covid-sick are the people who have been covid-vaxxed.

Proper nutrition, hygiene, along with homeopathy keeps the person from getting sick in the first place.

[o_e_l_e_o]

The example of this is that a very high percent of the covid-sick are the people who have been covid-vaxxed.

I see you've still not grasped elementary school math. Keep trying, you'll get it eventually!

[Poker Player]

So all my colleagues and I just mass hallucinated spending months in COVID ICU surrounded by people younger than us dying on a daily basis?

For the reasonable person that you are, I find it quite shocking that you repeat this, which I suppose is what you have seen, but it does not agree with what I have been told by people who work in health care, nor with the statistics.

The first page I get on google:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

As we can see, the bulk of the problem is concentrated from the age of 50 onwards, and if we were to break it down further I think we could see that the majority of deaths in the 50-64 range are concentrated in the 58-64 range.

When I have talked to people in healthcare and they told me about young people being in the ICU or dying from COVID, the question I asked them was, but were they healthy? Most often they would tell me that they were quite overweight, or that they had a lot of risk factors (smoking, high blood pressure, etc.).

I don't know if when you say "younger than us" it's because you and your colleagues are like 63 years old on average so I would understand better what you are saying.

[o_e_l_e_o]

When I have talked to people in healthcare and they told me about young people being in the ICU or dying from COVID, the question I asked them was, but were they healthy? Most often they would tell me that they were quite overweight, or that they had a lot of risk factors (smoking, high blood pressure, etc.).

Not to be blunt, but so what? Anti-vaxxers parrot this all the time - "Well, they had a pre-existing condition!" - as if suffering from some chronic health condition means your life doesn't matter anymore.

Yes, the majority of the deaths were in the older population (although I really wouldn't class 50 as old), and yes, many (but certainly not all) of the younger people in ICU with COVID had pre-existing conditions. None of that made it any easier on their bereaved families or on the hospital staff.

[Poker Player]

When I have talked to people in healthcare and they told me about young people being in the ICU or dying from COVID, the question I asked them was, but were they healthy? Most often they would tell me that they were quite overweight, or that they had a lot of risk factors (smoking, high blood pressure, etc.).

Not to be blunt, but so what?

So now what you say sounds more reasonable, as what you say usually sounds.

Yes, the majority of the deaths were in the older population (although I really wouldn't class 50 as old), and yes, many (but certainly not all) of the younger people in ICU with COVID had pre-existing conditions. None of that made it any easier on their bereaved families or on the hospital staff.

I agree.

[BADecker]

The example of this is that a very high percent of the covid-sick are the people who have been covid-vaxxed.

I see you've still not grasped elementary school math. Keep trying, you'll get it eventually!

If I were a bad guy, I would be right in there with you. But even though I'm not a bad guy, I totally understand your position.

You have a bunch of 'fellows' who think the same way as you, and so you continually talk the batch of you into believing your lies. And you won't even consult the experiments truthfully, but use warped experimentation to produce whatever you want.

What do you want? Money, and a good name, of course. So, you talk the medical lies into continuing as much as possible, so that you get your money, even when it kills loads of innocent people.

Of course, its the stupidity of the lambs that make it so easy for you to continue. But when you find a few people who show you the truth to your face, it's then that you start picking on the people rather than the data and the processes for getting the data.

Del Bigtree of The Highwire fame, has interview at least dozens of professionals linked to the Covid disease and the Covid vaccines in some ways. These professionals have shown exactly the various ways that standard medicine is a lie, especially regarding Covid, and all vaccines. You can find most of The Highwire videos athttps://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ if you are interest.

[o_e_l_e_o]

What do you want? Money, and a good name, of course.

Absolutely. That's why we push vaccines which cost a buck or two, rather than let people get critically unwell and rack up hundreds of thousands in bills. Oh no wait, you are talking complete bullshit as usual.

But don't forget to buy this bottle of homeopathic bullshit water pills for $199.99 plus tax!

[be.open]

I am a supporter of evidence-based medicine. This makes me a natural opponent of homeopathy (although nobody canceled the placebo effect and sugary water sometimes really works, but not because it is sweet - but simply because of the patient's belief that it will help). But that does not make me a supporter of covid vaccination, because the evidence for the effectiveness of these vaccines is too vague. Fans of urine therapy puzzle me, but I do not rule out that the placebo effect works here too.

[OgNasty]

It's actually quite disappointing to see some names whom which I personally think are quite good members of the forum to have actually bought into the scamdemic and its ploy to poison the population.

I took a hit on this forum when I made it clear that the pandemic was a scam to print money and pay back the medical industry for the failed Obamacare promises. I never for a second considered getting vaccinated nor have I ever bothered to be tested for this nonsense. It was crystal clear what this was from the beginning and the bootlickers that continue to be brainwashed after all the evidence showing the vaccine is worse than covid should be avoided at the very least. Their opinions should be considered moronic and questioned on a variety of things as a result. Their ego is more important than truth, and they are enemies of mankind.

[BADecker]

What do you want? Money, and a good name, of course.

Absolutely. That's why we push vaccines which cost a buck or two, rather than let people get critically unwell and rack up hundreds of thousands in bills. Oh no wait, you are talking complete bullshit as usual.

But don't forget to buy this bottle of homeopathic bullshit water pills for $199.99 plus tax!

No side effects to properly administered homeopathy plus good nutrition.

Get your vaccine for free (government paid for) and pay for it with $millions in side effects, and sometimes even death. Money isn't nearly as valuable as your health.

[TwitchySeal]

What do you want? Money, and a good name, of course.

Absolutely. That's why we push vaccines which cost a buck or two, rather than let people get critically unwell and rack up hundreds of thousands in bills. Oh no wait, you are talking complete bullshit as usual.

But don't forget to buy this bottle of homeopathic bullshit water pills for $199.99 plus tax!

No side effects to properly administered homeopathy plus good nutrition.

Get your vaccine for free (government paid for) and pay for it with $millions in side effects, and sometimes even death. Money isn't nearly as valuable as your health.

Drinking your own piss is homeopathy, right?

Have you tried any of these recipes?

https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/blog/the-complete-urine-drinkers-cocktail-guide