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April 13, 2023, 09:14:58 PM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

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April 13, 2023, 09:19:07 PM
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If you’re talking about crypto gambling site, you can done this on those site without KYC but if its a big withdrawals, then maybe the site will start to ask for some details or KYC to prove that your money is came from a good source aside from winning it. Also, withdrawal is easy nowadays just comply with the requirements and follow the rules of the site you should experience no problem.

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April 13, 2023, 09:20:16 PM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account
If you have full control over the account then yes but if the account is frozen then that is totally impossible feat. Even if the payment method was yours that wouldn't mean much to consider a cash out since you state that the account is frozen.
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April 13, 2023, 09:22:20 PM
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this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?
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April 13, 2023, 09:39:55 PM
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this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?
Most likely.

If the account is frozen, there must be reasons why it has gone to that point and to make it possible to get that withdrawal is they will require you some certain documents.

But as you've said, you don't have the documents that they might be asking for you to proceed with that withdrawal so it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to access that and get into the process.

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April 13, 2023, 09:40:12 PM
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this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?
So what they did actually asked out? Some documents which is usually the case. So if you arent the owner of the said account which means that the previous owner did really sent out documents earlier or not?
If yes then you would be needing to provide the same documents but if this is the first time then i dont see any problems since you would really be just needing to comply on whats been asked.
The only problem on here is that if you do make use of VPN then for sure they would really be that keen when it comes to location specially on the IP address which it should
really be correlate out on what you have have submitted.

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April 13, 2023, 10:06:58 PM
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problem is that i got access 8 days on this account made around 1000 €deposits and some guy blocked access to my funds so i want 527 $ that was on account at that time back

however i don't have  these documents that were first send in by the owner 

can you not  push pokerstars  to comply  and cash the money back to the same account that deposited on account ?

or is there a way to get this money out of account

i mean it's not small change
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April 13, 2023, 10:07:16 PM
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this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

You are probably stuck until you manage to get your personal identification documents, so yes.
Also, why would you gamble while not having your passport or ID readily on hand? It is well known that casinos and gambling platforms reserve the right to ask you for those papers whenever they need them or deem them necessary.

It seems rather reckless of you, to be honest.
Until you cannot prove your identity, they may assume there is some suspicious activity going on.

Good luck.


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April 13, 2023, 10:08:43 PM
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i did give them my documents but they saw  a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad   i'm not the owner of this account
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April 13, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account


As long as you have the access to the account and as long as that gambling site does not require KYC, you'd be good to withdraw your funds on that particular account. This is also why I consider the pro of KYC; to avoid easily withdrawing my funds from the account. We'll never know; online platforms are prone with viruses and devices with malwares if you won't be that secured always. So atleast, you'd have the assurance that you will be the only one to use your funds at a time you would want to. If it is regarding frozen account, then that would be another thing. You'd appear suspiscious on the viewpoint of the gambling site. This should be discussed on their support to check if there would be way to do so.

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April 13, 2023, 11:16:21 PM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account



No there is none it's on the TOS of the casino that you should own the money and the documents that you are going to deposit or submit, if this is your issue in the casino you're playing you risk losing your money and getting your account banned.

Again another case of not reading and understanding the TOS of the casino, when you sign up deposit, and play on the casino always be aware of the possibility that the casino will ask you to undergo KYC or investigate your account.

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I'm not certain about fiat casinos bit if it's a crypto gambling casinos then, it is possible to make withdrawals without KYC but I think it might be triggered at some points if you a certain amount is been placed for withdrawals.

I really don't see anything wrong with people doing KYC and I personally wouldn't want to get involved with nom KYC casinos because at some point, they might not be trusted and just incase things get soured, they wouldn't be much people you can make complains to legally and that's one of the major reasons I always have to avoid online casinos that doesn't require KYC.

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April 13, 2023, 11:32:55 PM
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i did give them my documents but they saw  a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad   i'm not the owner of this account

Unfortunately, it is unlikely that you will be able to withdraw funds without being able to prove that you are the account owner. In most cases, casino sites have strict policies in place to prevent fraudulent activity, and they require proper identification documents to verify your identity.

I know this will be of little help to you right now, but you should have known better than to deposit your funds into someone else's casino account. This is probably also against the terms of use of the platform.

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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

It depends...
If the site is charging KYC and you had already given false information in a previous step, it is very likely that they will not release the payment.
This requirement and accuracy of information varies greatly from one site to another, and usually involves sending basic identity documents and a proof of address.
I suggest that you never send false information and whenever possible prefer casinos where it is possible to withdraw cryptocurrencies, as withdrawals to banking institutions are usually much more rigorous.

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Even if you have full control over the account, if it is frozen, you can't do anything with it because the support staff or that casino will surely ask for ID of the owner, and even if you provide the ID, the possibility of recovering your money is low because you broke their terms, which is why the account was frozen. The only solution to this is to ask the owner of the account to submit their ID and try to unfreeze it so you can withdraw it using whatever method you want.
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April 14, 2023, 02:38:42 AM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

I guess you're referring to online casino, if I'm correct then you can make withdrawal if the casino explicitly states that they won't be bedding any form of document during withdrawal but if they do I'm afraid you'll have to complete your KYC before you can cash out your money.
Although, the fact that the casino states that they won't be needing kyc for withdrawal does not mean that they can't request it, like for a recent thread where a user was asked for KYC completion after the casino wrote on their website that KYC is not required.

And since yours has been frozen they are likely going to ask you to submit your documents depending on what made them freeze the account in the first place. If it's about identity issues then it's certain.

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April 14, 2023, 04:23:22 AM
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i did give them my documents but they saw  a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad   i'm not the owner of this account
I think that answers the question itself? I mean no proper/legal business would ever accept only proof of payment as the proof for identity, both needs to match. People can borrow from other people to pay stuff, but you can't exactly go about borrowing other people's identity now.

In the first place though shouldn't you be able to contact the og user of the account? Seeing as you funded his account through your own methods after all. That is unless you're using a different identity then well, all the blame is on you.

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April 14, 2023, 04:28:07 AM
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hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account


If the account is frozen, then tough luck mate. It is probably frozen for either for KYC or due to fraudulent activities. In both cases, you need to be the owner of the account to explain your situation or provide necessary proof to the sportsbook/casino.

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April 14, 2023, 05:03:23 AM
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Commonly account frozen due any rule break out or have possibility require for KYC if want withdrawing your money, need specific question about which one side your money frozen or holding. If on gambling platform with account have been frozen require KYC and you need own document for getting back your money, if don't have real document I don't sure have any way for withdrawing your money because all gambling platform have policy created one account based on your real name. Please give us detail later which one side do you mean about account frozen and you can't withdrawing your money.



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April 14, 2023, 06:12:22 AM
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The casino would have to verify that account is yours so if they have frozen your account there is no way you can get back the access of your account and withdraw funds.You are not owner and don't have any documents which you need to submit as KYC so I don't think there's any way you can get funds if the casino has denied it.But still try to contact the support team and tell the matter if they come up with alternative but that's rare chance.

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